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Steve 25, scouting teams are making those judgements every summer mate. Analysts are looking at players, and making recommendations on players that will deliver more end product.

The fact that Alcaraz is still here on £20k a week with one year on his deal, and presumably available for £12-15m, would suggest that the football world, like me, see him as a squad player only that delivers fleetingly.

Tony would I be giving Alcaraz 30 minutes? I am going to need to see more mate, than just a nice finish vs Wolves, to convince me he is going to deliver what we need. Weve seen it with Mcneil, a good performance, followed up by absolutely nothing.

We are too easily pleased as a fan base by our players.

Sign of genuine progress for the club or player, is when we are talking after 15, 20, 30 games not just a handful of good moments. He will get 10, 15, 20 minutes, may be a start by delivering high level, consistent performances. So it is up to him to shine in training and on the pitch when those opportunities arise. Same with Dibling.

Christy, I don't think Kdh performance drop off is down to being tired and fading out of games. I just think he is a player that tries things that don't come off all the time, and can be a bit hit or miss. There will be elements of tiredness I am sure, but 60 minutes in after 4-6 games, I doubt it.

When it comes off like Palace, he looks a world beater. When he is missing sitters like Spurs, then that isn’t tiredness. That is just the mark of a player that performs between a 6 & 8 most weeks, doing something that is the hardest thing to do on the pitch. Score & create.

That is the difference between good and genuine top bracket player. And why he is down the England pecking order.

I don't like the word World Class, as I think there are few, if any, in the Premier League, but a player that can hit an 8, 9 or 10 performance most weeks is unlikely to be at our club too long. Branthwaite is the only one that falls into that bracket, and why I struggle to see him being here next season.

But hey, unbeaten so far this season, through in the cup. I hope for 3 points vs Ipswich, which will cement a good start after the late summer shit show. Up the toffees.

If you want a beer whilst your watching the match go and support your local non league team. Cheaper to get in, pint in your hand and proper no nonsense football.

Rugby fans can take alcohol to there seats because there more dignified. Don’t course trouble.

Barry I would agree with you and would like to see people having a beer whilst enjoying the game. It’s not a mentality thing though, more a legislative thing. Following crowd incidents in the eighties the powers that be ( most of whom had never been to a game or understood football crowds ) decided that you couldn’t have a drink in full view of the pitch. ( I don’t know if that applied to those in boxes ).
Football fans could have told them that it was impossible to drink to excess IN the ground. On bottles of Higsons Double Top ! Really.
Those eejits who enjoyed alcohol fueled trouble making did their supping in pubs near the ground. And so the broad brush meant no one could have a drink and watch the game.
I’d think its time to review this.

Steve 25, scouting teams are making those judgements every summer mate. Analysts are looking at players, and making recommendations on players that will deliver more end product.

The fact that Alcaraz is still here on £20k a week with one year on his deal, and presumably available for £12-15m, would suggest that the football world, like me, see him as a squad player only that delivers fleetingly.

Tony would I be giving Alcaraz 30 minutes? I am going to need to see more mate, than just a nice finish vs Wolves, to convince me he is going to deliver what we need. Weve seen it with Mcneil, a good performance, followed up by absolutely nothing.

We are too easily pleased as a fan base.

Sign of genuine progress for the club or player, is when we are talking after 15, 20, 30 games not just a handful of good moments. He will get 10, 15, 20 minutes, may be a start by delivering high level, consistent performances. So it is up to him to shine in training and on the pitch when those opportunities arise. Same with Dibling.

Christy, I don't think Kdh performance drop off is down to being tired and fading out of games. I just think he is a player that tries things that don't come off all the time, and can be a bit hit or miss. There will be elements of tiredness I am sure, but 60 minutes in after 4-6 games, I doubt it.

When it comes off like Palace, he looks a world beater. When he is missing sitters like Spurs, then that isn’t tiredness. That is just the mark of a player that performs between a 6 & 8 most weeks, doing something that is the hardest thing to do on the pitch. Score & create.

That is the difference between good and genuine top bracket player. And why he is down the England pecking order.

I don't like the word World Class, as I think there are few, if any, in the Premier League, but a player that can hit an 8, 9 or 10 performance most weeks is unlikely to be at our club too long. Branthwaite is the only one that falls into that bracket, and why I struggle to see him being here next season.

But hey, unbeaten so far this season, through in the cup. I hope for 3 points vs Ipswich, which will cement a good start after the late summer shit show.