Brentford vs Everton

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Anthony Gordon will be in the squad as there has been no follow-up offer from Chelsea for the young winger

Everton play the second of three consecutive away games in the space of a week when they travel to the Capital on Saturday to face Brentford.

Though the Blues beat the Bees handily in the FA Cup in Frank Lampard’s first match in charge, Thomas Frank’s man did the League double over Everton last season and with the latter struggling to find the rhythm without a reliable striker leading the line, Brentford will fancy their chances once again.

Neal Maupay is on the verge of joining from Brighton and the Blues were racing to get him signed in time and registered by noon today so that he would be eligible to play this weekend against his forward club.

Should Everton miss that deadline, Lampard will once again have to choose between Salomon Rondon, who was less than convincing in the centre-forward role at Fleetwood Town on Tuesday, and the awkward formation of Demarai Gray, Anthony Gordon, and Dwight McNeil arrayed as a forward trio.

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To Gray’s credit, however, he has scored in each of the last two games and would be a good bet to start has the most forward Everton player if Rondon is overlooked for this one.

Gordon, meanwhile, will be in the squad after sitting out of the cup tie on Tuesday evening as speculation continues to swell regarding a big money move to Chelsea.

The prospects of the young winger making a move to Stamford Bridge appear to have diminished as talk around the situation has died down, but with the transfer deadline approaching, anything is possible.

"No it hasn't come in," Lampard said when asked about rumours that Chelsea had increased their offer for Gordon. "He's our player and remains so. He's in the squad for tomorrow. They haven't bid £60m. Let’s not talk about a bid because there hasn’t been a bid of £60m."

With Abdoulaye Doucouré injured, Allan's availability unknown after he missed the trip to Fleetwood and Tom Davies withdrawn from the starting XI for that cup tie, it looked as though Lampard might have been facing another shortage of options in midfield.

However, the manager confirmed in his press conference that Davies is in contention after shaking off whatever issue prompted the medical staff to take him out of the line-up on Tuesday and he will compete for a spot alongside Amadou Onana and Alex Iwobi.

Onana made his full debut at Fleetwood and coped well despite coming in for some unnecessarily rough treatment from Scott Brown's men and after a quiet showing off the bench against Nottingham Forest in the League last weekend, the Belgian international could start out among the substitutes again this weekend.

“I thought it was really mature for a player of his age," Lampard said of Onana's first start against the League One side. "He needed fitness so that was a big plus."

Like last season, their first since gaining promotion from the Championship, Brentford have made a strong start to the season but where a year ago they eventually faded off and looked to be in grave danger of the drop until Christian Eriksen came in for the second half of the campaign, this time they look better equipped to, perhaps, take a run at finishing in the top 10.

Frank has the Bees playing high-tempo football with quick, mobile players who aren't afraid to get forward or use the attacking prowess of Ivan Toney, as Everton found out to their cost at Goodison Park earlier this year when Jarrad Branthwaite was sent off for tangling with the striker as he latched onto a ball over the top.

Whereas last year when Rafael Benitez's impotent outfit struggled to overcome a eminently beatable Brentford side, this time around it looks to be a much more difficult fixture. The Londoners have added the likes of Aaron Hickey, Ben Mee, Mikkel Damsgaard and Keane Lewis-Potter to their ranks over the summer and look a more rounded, experienced outfit.

Unless Maupay is available – it looks unlikely at the time of writing – it's hard to see how this is going to be anything other than another struggle for Everton. Lampard has been encouraged by the chances his side have been making so far and he will be hopeful that his defence can remain resolute, allowing for his attackers to perhaps nick a goal or two that would allow the Toffees to come away with something ahead of another away-day at Leeds on Tuesday.

Kick-off: 3pm, Saturday , 27 August, 2022
Referee: John Brooks
VAR: Lee Mason
Last Time: Brentford 1 - 0 Everton

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Holgate, Coady, Tarkowski, Patterson, Mykolenko, Davies, Iwobi, Gordon, Gray, Rondon

 

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John Kavanagh
1 Posted 26/08/2022 at 15:09:25
I said on the day the fixtures were released that the games against Brentford and Leeds would decide whether we were in yet another relegation fight. Things have turned out even worse than I envisaged, with only one point from three games.

Lyndon, calling Rondon's 'performance' vs Fleetwood less than convincing is either being exceedingly polite or using all of your skills as a master of understatement. He was totally useless. The definitive answer to the age-old football question of 'Who ate all the pies?'

With Rondon in the team, we have little or no chance of getting a result unless we can achieve a clean sheet. I am, nonetheless, still hopeful that we can snatch a point here and at Leeds to prevent complete relegation panic setting in before the two following matches, which I am dreading.

Here's hoping that Maupay, despite my strong misgivings, has signed by the deadline and is available for Brentford. The alternative is too awful to contemplate.

ps: Lee Mason on VAR is an even worse prospect than having Rondon in the team.

Robert Williams
2 Posted 26/08/2022 at 15:22:20
Brentford 1 - Everton 3. COYBs
Jay Harris
3 Posted 26/08/2022 at 15:27:26
We haven't kept a clean sheet in the league yet this season so I'm hoping for a 0-1 away win.

Onana and Iwobi to dominate the midfield and Maupay to defy all expectations by scoring the only goal.

Dean Williams
4 Posted 26/08/2022 at 15:50:37
4th game and still no striker.

Our club is in such a state, it's hard to support them.

Kunal Desai
5 Posted 26/08/2022 at 15:54:46
This will be 1 point from 4 games. Brentford have scored 8 goals in 3 games, I don't see us shutting them out here. 2-0 defeat.

Hopefully still on track to accumulate 2/3 points from the first 8 games.

Brian Murray
6 Posted 26/08/2022 at 15:54:47
Chelsea are obviously in no hurry, and why should they be, just to boost our budget?

If it doesn't happen, we want some end product and at least beat the first man with a cross. That okay with you, Anthony???

John Hood
7 Posted 26/08/2022 at 15:58:09
Brentford fan here...I came on last season a couple of times and don't seem to have caused too much offence so I hope you will indulge my thoughts again.

It has been a rather strange first three matches for the Bees; they were poor for the first 45 minutes at Leicester and Fulham yet could easily have won both. United was, I think, a bit of a one off, although Thomas Frank gave another tactical master class.

Going forward, they carry a lot of threat but there is a weakness at the moment at centre-back; Pinnock and Ajer were immense last season and a major factor in the successful season. Both are out and Jansson and Mee are vastly experienced but a shade slow and were caught out at times in the away matches. The return of Josh Da Silva has been a huge bonus after 18 months out and he drives forward to great effect.

Interested to see Maupay joining the Toffees; he was a great Bees favourite in the Championship, not least for his ability to upset the deluded Leeds fans. He is a lively player and will do well for you but he perhaps does not score as many as he should.

I think it will be a close encounter, probably low scoring. Everton do seem stronger in personnel but it will take a few seasons to get over the grotesque mismanagement of EFC that has taken place over the past 10, 15, 20 years.

Anyway, all the best... been watching footy for 62 seasons now and always had a soft spot for your team, ever since seeing them destroy Fulham c.1962-ish.

I think the doom and gloom is slightly overdone on here sometimes; you have many decent players and, over the course of the season, I don't think you will be in danger of relegation.

Will Mabon
8 Posted 26/08/2022 at 16:03:49
John, enough already! I'm trying to be depressed here...
Brent Stephens
9 Posted 26/08/2022 at 16:11:08
John #7

I have good memories of your previous post. With posts like that one and this, I think you're a welcome addition to TW.

You see us as being stronger in personnel this season and I wouldn't disagree with that. As you say, it'll take time.

Danny O’Neill
10 Posted 26/08/2022 at 16:12:00
Thank you, John, and welcome back. Always welcome.

I enjoyed my day out at your new stadium last season. Like Fulham, it's nice to go to a London ground and not be victimised for being an away supporter. I enjoyed a coupled alongside Brentford supporters in the Steam Packet on the river.

I'm a native of Liverpool who has settled in Uxbridge, so Brentford is probably my closest team. I used to coach Hayes & Yeading youth teams and regularly bumped into the Brentford teams on the training grounds.

I can't make the trip this season as I'll be in the USA but I hope we fair better than what I witnessed in person last season if that's okay with you!!

There are some doom-mongers everywhere. Three games in. I'm sure we'll both be fine. I am a big fan of your manager.

Neil Copeland
11 Posted 26/08/2022 at 16:16:35
Hi John, always good to hear the thoughts of a neutral supporter. I think you will always be welcome here and particularly if we win!

Anyway, enjoy the game and look forward to you posting again in the not-too-distant future. Take care.

Steve Daniells
12 Posted 26/08/2022 at 16:44:10
We're going to nick all 3 points tomorrow. I can feel it in my waters. Toney is a very useful striker, but with Tarkowski and Coady at the back, we should have the measure of him.

Onana to have a stormer in the middle (I wouldn't start Davies if there's a doubt still), and Iwobi to grab the goal that his play deserves.

Believe it and it will happen... Believe it and it will happen...

Mike Gaynes
13 Posted 26/08/2022 at 16:48:40
John #7, thanks for dropping in again. My best mate here in the US is a Brentford supporter (Irishman) and I always cheer for your Bees unless you're playing us.

I noted with interest (and envy) your signing of Damsgaard, who scored so brilliantly over Pickford in the Euro semis last summer... is he injured?

Andy Peers
14 Posted 26/08/2022 at 17:35:12
I think this is a must-win game.
Kieran Kinsella
15 Posted 26/08/2022 at 17:35:48
Frank press conference quote “Tom had a small feeling in his groin.”

Benny Hill music.

David West
16 Posted 26/08/2022 at 17:40:53
Mike, I agree about Damsgaard. He could develop into top-drawer player.

John, it's nice to have some outside opinions cut through all the doom and gloom.

As Lyndon says, I hope Gray is the central figure tomorrow as he is so much better bursting through the line and off the shoulder of defenders and 2 goals in 2 games shows he's a better finisher than Gordon too.

Let Gray, Gordon & McNeil tire the defenders and if we not up a goal or two, throw Rondon on as last resort.

That's unless Maupay has been signed in time play.
1- 2 Everton with Onana getting his first.

UTFT

Ed Prytherch
17 Posted 26/08/2022 at 17:52:23
Kieran 15 - my first LOL of the day.
John Keating
18 Posted 26/08/2022 at 17:56:22
I doubt tomorrow's result will be any different from last season's Premier League game, I'm afraid.

Going into yet another league game without a recognised half-decent striker is totally unacceptable. We need a target man someone to hold the ball up.

A pint-sized Maupay long-term is not the answer, I'm afraid.

Another day behind the couch beckons, I think.

John Keating
19 Posted 26/08/2022 at 17:56:22
I doubt tomorrow's result will be any different from last season's Premier League game, I'm afraid.

Going in to yet another league game without a recognised half-decent striker is totally unacceptable. We need a target man, someone to hold the ball up.

A pint-sized Maupay long-term is not the answer, I'm afraid.

Another day behind the couch beckons, I think.

Lee Jackson
20 Posted 26/08/2022 at 18:14:53
First name on the teamsheet is probably Iwobi. Strange how things have turned for him. These stats just appeared on the bird:

Only three Premier League players have created more chances from open play than Iwobi's 24 in his last 15 starts – Odegaard, Kane and De Bryunne.

And, no Premier League player has won the ball back for his side more than his tally of 109 during that period.

John Hood
21 Posted 26/08/2022 at 18:27:49
Re Damsgaard: yes, a very exciting signing, the sort I never would have imagined Brentford achieving.

However, he is a long way off match fitness. Played most of the game v Colchester but I very much doubt if he will feature tomorrow.

Keith Meakin
22 Posted 26/08/2022 at 18:35:47
I'm sorry but there's no sugarcoating this one, what comes with a powderpuff strike force is a 3 nil trouncing.

Ivan Toney will want revenge for last season's plonkers abusing his mum.

Danny O’Neill
23 Posted 26/08/2022 at 18:41:20
I hope we win tomorrow because I always want Everton to win.

But I also hope we win so that the negatives can go and find something else to be negative about.

Rob Jones
24 Posted 26/08/2022 at 18:43:51
Personally, I want us to win because I want us to win...
Christy Ring
25 Posted 26/08/2022 at 20:01:11
John #7

Nice comments and I agree – too much negativity on our site.

It will be tough tomorrow, especially as we are lacking upfront, but hope Rondon starts because we do need a focal point, and we have deserved better in the first 3 games.

David West
26 Posted 26/08/2022 at 20:18:48
Lee @20,

I totally agree, Iwobi has had some kind of mad rebirth under Frank. I hold my hands up and say I was one who thought we would be paying his wages while he sat on the bench for 3 years.

Many Evertonians should look at him before writing off the likes of McNeil, Maupay (if he's in) and Diaz (if we get him).

His story bodes well for the likes of McNeil, Patterson, Mykolenko, Onana etc; if Frank can nurture the talent they have, we have the makings of a good squad going forward.

I do get the vibe from Frank that he's a players manager, like his uncle Harry – players seem to want to play for him. Iwobi shows that Frank will listen to a player, he's always wanted the central role and, now he's been given it, he's repaying Frank for his commitment to him.

He's still not that old, even though i feels like he's been around forever. He's still the only man in the squad who plays between the lines, not just crab passes square all game.

He's got more technique than the rest of our central midfield put together. If we can play him in a 3 with Onana & Gana or another holder, I think that's a good midfield.

Let's hope in the long run Frank can see that the wingers we have, Gordon, Gray & McNeil, have much more impact if they are on the wing.

I don't think any of them are enjoying playing in this 5-2-3. 4-1-4-1 suits us better when we have that holder.

My preference is 4-1-4-1:

Pickford
Mykolenko
Coady
Tarkowski
Patterson
Gana (or other)
Onana
Iwobi
Gordon (or McNeil)
Gray
Calvert-Lewin

Michael Kenrick
27 Posted 26/08/2022 at 22:02:08
Kunal @5,

I know I'm tempting fate to challenge your laserlike wisdom as our resident harbinger of doom, but tell us more, please about what exactly went wrong when you wrote this last week:

"Nottingham Forest will come to Goodison and take 3 points with ease... Everton are that predictable these days."

Why do you feel you have to tell us Everton are going to lose? What does it do for you? Above all, shouldn't there be some retribution when you get it so woefully wrong? Like no more predictions allowed for the rest of the season!

Jerome Shields
28 Posted 26/08/2022 at 22:55:34
Like last week's game, a result is crucial.
Steavey Buckley
29 Posted 26/08/2022 at 23:39:46
Everton will get nothing tomorrow because they don't have anyone upfront that Brentford will worry about. Instead, Brentford do have players upfront who will worry Everton. You just can't win games without capable strikers.
Dale Self
30 Posted 27/08/2022 at 00:50:10
Iffy on doing the Live Forum tomorrow but it sounds like David might keep things sensible. UTFT!!!

Get three against the odds. Another incisive pass from Iwobi to Gray for the opener and we ride it out from there.

Cmon! We've got enough to trouble these, get into them!

Mike Gwyer
31 Posted 27/08/2022 at 07:33:40
Christy #25,

Please, why include Rondon? For me, he holds the play up. When Gray or Gordon get to the opposition penalty box, usually about half an hour before Rondon, they have no Number 9 as an option for a pass. 'Slow' is not the word...

Also, Rondon is out after this game, I mean totally out. Calvert-Lewin is on his way back, Maupay will be available, and I've no doubt another striker will be purchased or loaned.

From what I've heard and read, Rondon will not accept loans to lower league clubs but instead will see out his contract at Goodison. All I can say is thank fuck when he has gone.

Ciarán McGlone
32 Posted 27/08/2022 at 08:36:27
Unlikely to win this with a back 5... unlikely to play anything other than a back 5.

Make me eat my words.

Danny Baily
33 Posted 27/08/2022 at 08:47:49
Ciaran, we're not winning this with a 2 goal head start. Southampton at home is our next best bet for 3 points.
Ciarán McGlone
34 Posted 27/08/2022 at 08:53:16
I don't agree. We have a far better squad and first team (striking options aside) than people give us credit for.

We are currently losing battles in central midfield because of the adherence to this unsuitable system.

Play Warrington, Iwobi and Davies and I think people would be pleasantly surprised.

Ian Bennett
35 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:00:06
I am worried where the next 3 points are coming from, when you look at the next 7 fixtures after today, I've got to say.

Away gounds we get nothing away from home, and tough home fixtures. Hope the boys prove me wrong and we find that mental toughness.

Leeds Utd (a)
Liverpool (h)
Arsenal (a)
West Ham Utd (h)
Southampton (a)
Manchester Utd (h)
Tottenham Hotspur (a)
Newcastle Utd (a)

Henrik Lyngsie
36 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:00:50
Mile 13. Regarding Damsgaard he has been out for a long while with an odd disease like arthritis in the knee. Apparently they found a medicine that will allow him back. He is a fantastic player.
Danny Baily
37 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:03:59
I agree, the system Frank has adopted is a ticket to the Championship, with a few patronising slaps on the back for supposedly playing well along the way. It reminds me of WBA under Mowbray years ago.

But we are where we are. Frank is the manager, and I don't see us picking up points away from home.

Jim Lloyd
38 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:06:56
I thought we played well against Forest, and made enough chances to score. (brilliant goal by Gray!) Brentford, however, seem to have a good squad together and didn't they Stuff Utd 4-0?

We had 60-odd goals scored against us last season, so if our manager is doing his best to ensure we don't leak as many as that, this season, I'll be content to see him rebuild from that base.
I don't think any team is a "dead cert to beat" not with our record of "goals for" and "goals against" over the last four or five years.

Perhaps at the close of this window, we might have more players in, who can turn defeats/draws into draws/wins. Until then, turning our defeats into draws, will do me. A win would be a bonus.

Sam Hoare
39 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:25:53
I would expect a tight affair, possibly decided by a set piece or a moment of class. If it's the latter then it will probably be from Brentford.

I wonder how much Toney would be? Him and a fit Calvert-Lewin could make a great strike partnership in theory.

Shame Maupay was not registered in time. I think Gordon is due a goal and Brentford's back line is not the quickest. If we sit back and soak it up there should be chances on the counter for Gordon and Gray.

Tony Everan
40 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:31:26
Their manager said Damsgaard won't be starting today, not ready.

It's a bit ironic isn't it their central defence is weakened, as is our attack. You could argue for a 0-0 here being worth a punt.

It's another winnable game that possibly escapes us due to our lack of goalscorer. But if we can keep it tight there are always opportunities to sneak a win. It looks to me like Gray as been working hard in training his finishing, the goal last week against Forest was very well taken, he made a difficult job look easy which was impressive.

I think Rondon will start and act as the battering ram, trying to hold the ball up and feed Gray with a simple pass around the box, then let Gray do the magic. This is the most likely of a goal I think. Also we have some presence now for set pieces so maybe we can cobble a goal from a corner or free kick. Any old goal will do.

Brentford 0-1 Everton

Brian Murray
41 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:32:01
This line up, whatever it is, and even the formation may change before the window shuts so I'd be happy with a draw.

Obviously a tight game would suit us with our type of centre-halves giving us a chance to even nick the win. Maybe a long long day though.

Christopher Timmins
42 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:48:59
This fixture proved to be a true weathervane for the 2021-22 season and the beginning of the end for the previous manager.

I expect that we will start with the same 11 as against Forest. Expecting the first clean sheet of the season and hopefully the first victory.

Ajay Gopal
43 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:08:54
I believe that the one fatal mistake that Benitez made was the signing of Solomon Rondon.

He had done well by signing up Andros Townsend and Demarai Gray for almost nothing. I forgive him for sending out Rodriguez and even Lucas Digne. But surely, he could have done better than signing Rondon, who has turned out to be totally useless – although he seems like a nice fella.

Instead, he should have gone for a loan signing or a cheap signing like Mbaye Diagne who went back to Turkey after a decent half season loan spell at West Brom. He scored 3 goals and had 2 assists in 16 games after Sam Allardyce signed him in the January transfer window.

It wasn't enough to keep them up, but I was always impressed with his aggression, and physical presence as well as very decent footballing skills for a big fellow. I thought we should have gone in for him, could have got him for buttons and would have been a much, much better option than Rondon.

Anyway, coming to the match, I predict this line-up:

Pickford
Holgate Coady Tarkowski
Patterson Iwobi Davies Onana Mykolenko
Gray Gordon

3-5-2 with Davies playing deep and allowing Iwobi and Onana to venture further upfield. I also hope to see Patterson and Mykolenko given the license by Lampard to play higher and put in low crosses to Gray and Gordon in the box to latch onto. The only realistic options we have to come off the bench to try to change things around are: McNeil, Rondon, Vinagre and maybe the kids - Warrington and Mills.

Brian Harrison
44 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:09:02
We definitely need to get something from this game, I have no idea who will lead the line for us today will it be Rondon or will we play a winger in his place.

Despite the signings we still don't look like a side who are capable of scoring many goals. I had hoped that Lampards priority, after escaping relegation last season, would have been to buy players with goals in them but apart from Maupay who can
t play today I don't see any of the other signings adding goals to this team.

We are now in the last few days of the window and we are still no nearer knowing if we will have Gordon for the rest of the season, or if Chelsea will put an offer in that Everton will accept. I certainly think it will have to have Broja in the mix for Lampard to accept.

Early days in the season but I would have expected something from the Villa game and more than 1 point from Forest.

I really don't like the 5 at the back I was willing to put up with it for the back end of last season given were we were in the league. I had hoped that Lampard would have been a lot more adventurous this season, but he has set us up to keep it tight and try and pinch one at the other end.

I have to say I was really excited when we got Lampard but I am just having the odd doubt about him now. I hope he puts those doubts to bed starting with a win today.

Rob Dolby
45 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:22:18
I hope to see Onana pushed up into the central striker position today he will cause more trouble up there than Rondon whilst he settles into the pace of the Premier League.

The defence picks itself and whilst I don't think we have the staff for 5 at the back Lampard will stick with it.

Davies and Iwobi centre mid with Gray and Gordon providing the width.

I think if we start with Rondon we are playing with 10 men. He is as bad as I have ever seen in a blue shirt.

Pickford
Holgate Coady Tarkowski
Patterson Mykolenko
Davies Iwobi
Gray Onana Gordon

Brian Murray
46 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:23:09
Ajay @43. Benitez done what a lot or most average tunnel vision managers do and go in for someone who they know. It happens year-in & year-out.

As for today, we somehow have to keep Onana further up or at least out of mischief getting himself carded. It looks like Warrington and Mills can't or won't be trusted for now anyway.

Kunal Desai
47 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:51:24
#27 Hit a raw nerve there Michael. Bit touchy.

Albeit we played well last week it was still a rarity for Everton to pull something out of the bag after going one down with less that 10 to play with our powder puff forward line, how often have they pulled it around that position. Arsenal away perhaps, so it was a surprise.

There are other posters who invisage how a game will result, win lose or draw.

I wouldn't call it being doom mongerish, it's being realistic as results have indicated already.

The 2/3 points is still looking on by the end of September wouldn't you say?

Andrew Clare
48 Posted 27/08/2022 at 11:08:21
Leeds were like us last season. Flirting with relegation, appointed a new manager late in the season and now look at them.

They have signed six new 'under the radar' players so far for little outlay and they have won five of their last six games and drawn the other in all competitions. It shows that if you have the right person at the helm with the right backing good things can happen.

I just hope once the new signings bed in we will see positive things happening. I still think we need two more signings. The clock is ticking.

Tom Bowers
50 Posted 27/08/2022 at 11:37:58
Brentford don't have to be strong at the back whilst Everton have this current offence on show. It may be a deadball situation that get's Everton a goal.

Brentford counter well and, unless Everton get a goal or two early, then they may get caught out just as Man Utd did recently.

Needless to say, a strong rearguard action may be the only way to get a point.

Stale Haverstadlokken
51 Posted 27/08/2022 at 11:55:20
Rondon isn't good enough, but if Benitez hadn't signed him, it would have been even worse!

Why? Because even Lampard can see that he had no one who can play as a striker.

Who's fault is it? Maybe we have to look at Ancelotti also. Didn't get any striker options in his reign.

Raymond Fox
52 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:06:25
I'm sorry to say I'm not feeling confident about this fixture.
We are away which more often than not means your second favourite, the crowd and the ref usually means your a goal behind before you start.

A win would be fantastic, a draw very good and a loss unsurprising is my take on the game. I hope to be pleasently suprised.

Laurie Hartley
53 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:12:44
I think Salomon Rondon must have committed some despicable crime that I don't know about.

Any way my selection for Brentford:-

Pickford,
Patterson, Tarkowski, Coady, Mykolenko
Gordon, Allan, Iwobi, Onana, Gray, Rondon.

Up the Blues.

Kevin Naylor
54 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:24:59
Laurie, the only crime he is guilty of is impersonating a centre-forward.

I don't blame him but is not good enough for our team and never was.

Raymond Fox
55 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:49:36
Depends how Lampard approaches the game. Rondon will start if we are trying to win the game, not if we go all defensive.

He's become the current whipping boy, Iwobi was the last one, need I say more.

Kevin Naylor
56 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:54:41
There was always potential with Iwobi, Rondon was finished when he got here and isn't going to get any better.

As I said not his fault and we should be have had someone else in place as we've all been saying.

Brian Murray
57 Posted 27/08/2022 at 13:09:08
As for Gordon, it's great all this promise and end product when he matures but any chance that process can start in a couple of hours?
Ian Bennett
58 Posted 27/08/2022 at 13:15:03
Pickford

Patterson
Tarkowski
Coady
Holgate
Mykolenko

Iwobi
Onana
Davies or Allan

Gray
Gordon

Laurie Hartley
59 Posted 27/08/2022 at 13:18:40
Kevin - what has been getting on my wick is the constant tirade of abuse he gets on here. He just doesn’t deserve it.
Brian Murray
60 Posted 27/08/2022 at 13:25:43
Laurie. Probably right about the abuse although it’s mostly frustration and some of us are more diplomatic than others. Plus anger why we are still relying on people like that.
Kevin Naylor
61 Posted 27/08/2022 at 13:29:16
Not sure what wages he's on but say for £50k a week you could abuse me to your hearts content.
Michael McFarlane
62 Posted 27/08/2022 at 13:41:00
#43 - "1 fatal mistake" by Benitez??? I nearly choked. More like a continuum of fatal mistakes, which all started with the fatal mistake of hiring him

A back 5 is a struggle - it needs wing back with incisive passing, ability to beat men and put good balls into danger areas. Patterson is inexperienced but offers much promise; Mykolenko isn't there and I can't see him reaching the required standard this year (but will be happy to be proven wrong). Is this why we have Vinagre on loan? With no striker, it's ironically less of an issue... for now.

Rondon shouldn't be playing. Couldn't hit a barn door at 2 paces and is yards behind the pace. Damarai offers much more, his confidence should be up after recent performances and easily gets my vote for the forward role. Why we loaned out both Dobbin and Sims when we are in this situation is beyond me. Can't see either breaking the bank and would have got valuable time.

In midfield, Warrington looks a gem, calm and composed beyond his years, and deserves some match time. Tom has been looking good. Iwobhi's transformation is well-timed. Onana shows much promise but I expect an emotional rollercoaster until he reaches the promised land.

I hardly get an Everton prediction correct. Optimism bias always prevails. I'm going 1-0 to us. COYB!!!


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