Fans left aghast as Everton end Deadline Day empty-handed
It was billed by many Everton fans as potentially the most important transfer window in the club’s history but the club exits January weaker than before having sold Anthony Gordon and failed to make a single signing while the teams struggling with them in the lower reaches off the Premier League table all strengthened their squads.
When the deadline passed this evening, the Blues were the only club in the top flight not to sign at least one player since the turn of the year, a staggering failing that leaves new manager Sean Dyche desperately short of creativity in the wide areas and goalscoring threat up front.
Only Wolves have scored fewer goals than Everton this season but Dyche will have to engineer them from places that his predecessor Frank Lampard could not and he will have to do it without the club’s joint-top scorer, Anthony Gordon, who, like Richarlison before him, was sold without being replaced.
The day began with news from late the previous night that both Everton and fellow strugglers Southampton had has a £22m offer accepted by Stade Rennais for winger Kamaldeen Sulemana, with the player left to make a decision over which club to join.
The Ghanaian opted for St Mary's, however, dealing a blow to the Toffees' hopes of making their first signing of the window.
The Mail also claimed that Everton are in talks with another Ghanaian in the form of Andre Ayew, who has just had his contract terminated with Al Sadd in Qatar. The story linking the 33-year-old former West Ham and Swansea forward to Goodison briefly grew legs in the evening but any talks were denied by Everton to Sky Sports.
Ayew, who featured for the Black Stars in the 2022 World Cup and scored in the 3-2 defeat to Portugal could still sign for the club after the deadline due to the fact that he is a free agent.
The club were also linked with Genk striker Paul Onuachu but he too went to Southampton while Coventry City completely ruled out selling Viktor Györkeres before the deadline. Reported interest in Union Berlin attacker Sheraldo Becker, Udinese striker Beto, Fenerbahce’s Michy Batshuayi, Reading’s Portuguese-born centre-forward Lucas Joao all came to nothing with their clubs or the players themselves rejecting the Blues’ advances.
After Nicolò Zaniolo's loan move to Bournemouth fell through, Leeds and Everton were said by Italian sources to have entered a race to sign the winger while a very late rumour had it that the Blues were trying to sign Jean-Philippe Mateta from Crystal Palace. A loan offer with an obligation to buy for Watford's Ismaila Sarr was knocked back and there was even a report from Italy saying that Olivier Giroud had rejected a chance to return to England with the Toffees.
Anthony Elanga, whose rumoured switch to Borussia Dortmund never materialised, with Erik Ten Hag not keen for his player to move to Goodison Park on loan and Everton’s interest in Chelsea's Conor Gallagher and Southampton's Che Adams was swiftly slapped down.
In terms of outgoings, U21s defender Joe Anderson completed a permanent switch to Sunderland for an undisclosed fee and while there was an agreement in place for Reece Welch to join MK Dons on loan until the end of the season, that move fell through.
A report that PSV Eindhoven had lodged a £15m offer to sign Jarrad Branthwaite on a permanent basis was quickly quashed by Dutch sources.
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6 Posted 31/01/2023 at 06:27:13
Worryingly also, apart from leaving everything to the last minute again, those we are allegedly after, are preferring, or going, to Southampton, who are below us in the table. :-)
8 Posted 31/01/2023 at 06:46:28
His goals-per-game ratio isn't that great either. His club will expect 㿀M plus. Too much in my opinion, given that back injury. Plays left-wing or right-wing.
22-23:- 20 appearances. Completed 90 minutes once. Goals 1, assists 2. Missed 4 games through injury.
21-22:- 28 appearances. Completed 90 minutes once. Goals 5, assists 3. Missed 13 games with back injury.
Paul Onuachu, centre-forward:
22-23:- 22 games 17 goals. Missed 2 games due to injury.
21-22:- played 43 games, 23 goals and 2 assists. Missed 2 games due to injury.
9 Posted 31/01/2023 at 06:56:19
10 Posted 31/01/2023 at 06:56:27
One thing you have to give Moyes credit for in his time with us over transfer targets, he would research the likelihood of injuries, how players performed on and off the pitch etc.
Granted, money was a lot tighter then, and okay the odd one would slip through but the teatment room wasn't like Sauchiehall Street on a Saturday morning.
Let's hope it is a 'Ginger Trait' to be carried on.
11 Posted 31/01/2023 at 06:58:14
12 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:00:39
If the reports are accurate regarding the training intensity employed by Sean Dyche then we will need another striker surely?
A creative midfielder would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.
Dogs of War will do for me.
13 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:00:57
Linked with strikers but fail to land any.
How on earth can we have left this glaring gap until the final day again???
14 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:02:09
He looks slightly like a striker we used to have but it's definitely not him as this guy has a slightly bigger nose, a moustache and glasses.
15 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:02:45
I hope your'e wrong, but that thought had also crossed my mind.
Fingers crossed eh?
16 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:08:44
Christ Almighty, Everton!
17 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:11:56
Unless he can get two players in who can score or create goals, we are effectively blindfolded, tied to a post and await the final deadly report.
No amount of ‘sweat on the shirt' can disguise the fact.
18 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:12:22
They want to check if they still have Sean Davis's medical records from 2003 before proceeding.
19 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:24:31
Maybe you should be apply for Thelwell's job!!! Can't do any worse. As a director of football, he should have had all this done before the start of January. It's not brain surgery!!!
We got told that there was money to spend, how much nobody knows, but due diligence and targets should have been done prior to this window. We have had 4 games this month, and we should have had 6-9 points, but due to the inept management, we have ended up with zero.
This is a cut throat business, and missing a beat on every occasion for the past how many years has made us look desperate, and we have always ended up with bargain basement expensive flops.
When will this ever stop??? Everyone sees Bill mince along, and they rub their hands together and think it's Brucie Bonus Time. In all we do as a club we are a laughing stock.
Good luck to all Evertonians for the next 5 months, that is the only thing we have left, and as shown by VAR we only have bad luck, or is it a conspiracy against us by the Premier League and the officials.
If we don't sign a mobile strong striker and a winger that can supply for the striker we are doomed.
Can't mincer Bill go and see his bezzie mate from Spurs and ask if we can borrow Richarlison back?
20 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:24:48
21 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:28:12
Sure he would love the riches he can get for playing for Everton!!!!
22 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:31:39
It amazes me that some people still think there shouldn't be protests against these idiots.
They have ruined our club and unless they are removed they will do further damage.
23 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:31:59
24 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:42:10
This club has not only lost its direction but it's become totally shameless. Sack the fucking lot of them Moshiri then sack yourself.
25 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:47:30
Couldn't agree more, all the teams around us have added one or two players to help the team, we have had all month to sort out signings. what does DoF, Kenwright do leading up to January, as you said they should have the targets, agents ready.
26 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:49:03
What a club, eh!
27 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:49:58
28 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:51:34
29 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:52:14
Now, with such a backdrop, the club have to entice players to our club, which is in the mire at the bottom, with a coach who will make payers sweat.
This week, I have seen little headlines with comments from various ex-redshite players. Souness and Carragher being two of them. These guys just love it when we are struggling.
I suppose it is a pleasant escape from their own club's underachievement. However, these lazy bits of journalism do nothing to help us get in our transfer targets. It's like a conspiracy to make us fail.
Forgetting the wasted millions, if the club had simply looked at the team and results before the World Cup and sacked Lampard (as most other clubs would have done after such a poor record), then the new guy could have been appointed and given 5 or 6 weeks with most of the squad.
I think they decided not to sack him then because they had arranged the Australia jolly and some of them probably wanted to go to some World Cup games.
The scenario of a new manager having one day to bring in our saviours is ridiculous, but the club have done this before. Apart from the Coventry lad, who might be desperate for a Premier League move, who would come here? I think a loan is all we will get.
By the way, Lewis Dobbin showed more than Rondon, Maupay and Calvert-Lewin have done in months, in half an hour last night for Derby County.
30 Posted 31/01/2023 at 07:55:08
Hope he is the catalyst to getting the rest of the money grabbing players on board. Get rid of limp wrist Keane to Southampton, it would help them get relegated.
A few Dyche rockets need to be put up a few arses this week!!! Fingers crossed!!!
31 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:10:33
We struggle to create and score so Ayew should fit right in. Honestly, it's embarrassing to be linked with such bang-average players. We have got to find some creativity and goals from somewhere.
Come on, Blues, surprise us and get someone through the door, for fuck's sake!
32 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:20:05
Can't help thinking this time though, that the board have resigned themselves to a relegation scenario. The EFC board are an absolute shambles!
33 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:23:58
34 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:24:37
Brighton paid ٦M for each of Adingra and Sima, both raw but talented West African forwards. Sulemana is a very similar profile.
I can only assume, like Onana and McNeil, the deal is structured so we don't pay up front.
It might be more boring but better to go for someone like Willock from QPR who is out of contract in summer.
35 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:36:17
The Gallagher rumour stinks of a Kenwright publicity leak. It does seem that the market is quite fluid right now so we will see but the lad from Chelsea won't be coming.
36 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:40:21
Pretty much sums up the circus that we have become. Even Spit the Dog and a few other RS dinosaur's commenting in the papers over the plight of our club.
Panic mode really has set in now with nobody of any stature willing to take a chance on joining so we can expect the usual last-minute loan signing(s) to join the deadwood we already have.
Why announce a new manager 48 hours before the transfer deadline? Smoke and mirrors as per usual with an empty piss pot. I would hazard a guess that the late announcement was planned so we await the real reasons. I am sure the dumb cunt in charge already has his stories well rehearsed.
Dyche was desperately looking for work and I was one who recently called for his appointment just a few weeks back but no doubt was obviously stalling on signing his non-disclosure agreement before finally accepting the job.
Let's hope that the fan reliance is rewarded. I recently attended a game which is probably my last ever visit to Goodison and was amazed at the incredible fanaticism and support shown by the faithful. Pity the morons running the show have very little appreciation for their efforts.
Hope that "Billy Liar" stays away for the rest of the games due to his safety concerns along with the other three stooges who kiss his ass every day.
I live in hope and at 68 years pray that we are not relegated.
COYB
37 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:41:10
Dyche made a point of saying that the most important players are the ones we already have. He's right of course. Even if we bring in one great new player, there's always a chance he'll pick up an injury, so it's up to the lot that are already here to get us out of this mess.
This window, at this stage, doesn't have the importance a lot of people are attaching to it, in my opinion.
38 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:47:40
39 Posted 31/01/2023 at 08:48:17
We are the dead man walking of the Premier League. No-one will want to come here except on loan or if there are no other clubs in for them, like Ayew. e need to look at bench warmers like Loftus-Cheek, Ryan Fraser or Iheanacho. Otherwise, I think we'll get no-one in, even loans.
Dyche would be tearing his hair out if he had any. Maybe he's now thinking oh crap, they are as bad as everyone said.
40 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:02:32
41 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:11:53
㿂 m fee reportedly agreed for Sulemana. It's a huge fee for someone who is firmly the potential bracket.
Also it's a massive ask for him to come into the furnace of a Premier League relegation battle and produce goals and assists from the off. Our scouts and DoF must be very positive about his ability to deliver straight away.
I hope they are right, they need to be. Thelwell nearly pulled off the coup of the summer with Kudus but he's older and more experienced, so has he seen something similar in this boy ?
My tentative bet is we sign Sulemana, and pay another big fee and sign Gyokeres. A loan deal will surface later too for a midfielder.
Probably wrong on all accounts but please, please not Ayew , surely that a red herring so whoever we get we say ,' at least it's not Ayew!'
42 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:11:59
43 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:17:28
44 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:24:33
What would Everton do
Why is Moyes being mentioned on this thread? He left 10 years ago and is currently in a relegation battle with a much better squad than Everton!
46 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:32:00
Gallagher I would have liked, but not for £40m odd.
47 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:37:33
A real danger money will be wasted once again.
We need players who will make us better, for me I would rather we stick what we have other than make signings that we know fuck all about.
With respect to Sean Dyche, he isn't going to attract the likes of Gallagher but the real problem is, Everton, the owner and board have set the club back years and we are now seen as a club to steer clear of.
It's a fucking real mess.
48 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:39:13
49 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:40:56
Happy thoughts.
50 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:49:15
I wonder why we always seem to be scrabbling about at last minute. Is it poor preparation? Or more likely a belief from someone in the club (Kenwright?) that this is the best time to strike good deals (with clubs who are desperate to shift deadwood or need the money). It's a tried philosophy that has not worked out well so I am somewhat despairing that we are here again.
51 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:49:44
The leadership of this club appears to display wilful inertia coupled with a tragic inability not to change old ways. Rather than considered long-term planning and a willingness to adapt to the changing landscape, we are exposed to an endless flow of makeshift decisions, made on the run. In the past Everton was a go-to club. Not anymore.
52 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:55:04
For to long this club has relied on DCL for goals and with his injuries of late and his poor form we are now paying the penalty. DCL was never that good and I am not blaming him he cost virtually nothing and he has scored some important goals for us, but for me he was the luckiest lad ever to get an England cap. So we are now just hours away from the window closing and the prospect of getting in a decent striker look remote. I don't care how good a manager Dyche maybe without other attacking options this club cant survive.
What is our DOF doing, oh he is giving Dyche the guided tour of Finch Farm. He allowed Danjuma to sign for Spurs despite passing a medical here. He has been here long enough to have brought in some attacking options and he hasn't. When we get rid of the owner and the incompetent board maybe Thelwell should also be part of the clear out. Moshiri decided very early into his ownership that we should have a DOF well that's worked out well.
53 Posted 31/01/2023 at 09:56:49
The older players out there are what, mid thirties? So even they won't remember 1995 and certainly not the 80's. Years of neglect and our obsession with our 'istory are finally coming home to roost. We're absolutely 100% the museum that Moshiri waffled on about.
Conor Gallagher? Hakim Ziyech? Give me a break!
54 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:06:08
55 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:07:45
It could also explain why Dyche's official announcement was delayed until yesterday. They might be incompetent but they ain't stupid and they'll do almost anything to prevent criticism landing on their doorstep, including it would seem, gambling with our Premier League status.
We'll see, but I'll be amazed if there are any significant arrivals today.
56 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:09:46
57 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:11:33
58 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:13:52
In fact I might even suggest that again delaying an appointment until the last day of the window might not be a coincidence.
59 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:29:43
This is what's wrong with Everton, we keep hearing about needing a backup to Calvert-Lewin, what about a replacement?
60 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:35:15
61 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:41:37
Since squandering Moshiri's riches, other than the potential to be playing in a spanking new stadium, we really are not a draw at all. I remain pretty pessimistic about today, and our prospects tbh, although I do see Dyche as maybe the best person available to achieve the near impossible and keep us up.
It is really pitiful being a Blue these days but I am fighting my corner!
62 Posted 31/01/2023 at 10:49:38
I've just spoken to a lifelong season ticket holder Brighton fan, who says that Gyökeres is very good, who got away because he didn't want to wait for his chance at Brighton! He thinks they also have a buy-on clause in him.
My question is this, if he's that good, why did he end up at Coventry? No disrespect to Coventry. However, I don't know anything about the lad, but he has to be better than Maupay! So, if it happens, let's see.
63 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:03:06
64 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:11:18
65 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:12:53
They make me think? Did our board actually try and poison the fans through the media, when they told their despicable lies, because there's no money to spend? (Crazy, I know…)
Is Moshiri prepared to gamble on staying up, whilst trying to straighten up the books for whoever takes over? (Crazy I know…)
Anyone considering buying Everton would realize it's impossible because the club is in a real financial and sustainability pickle, so the quicker these inept self-preserving amateurs get out of our club, the better.
How can Everton go into the second half of the season without signing a couple of forward players when you think about the recent injury record of Calvert-Lewin, whilst also remembering that the two forward thinking players who carried the fight towards the end of last season are no longer with us? Sold for 𧴜 million…
66 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:17:39
67 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:20:09
Imagine the wives of potential players responding to the chance to move to the area, sitting in the posh seats at the match, driving home from the game.
"Oh no darling, I don't want to go anywhere near those people!"
It has halved our potential signings. Only single men will consider us, and even those will have their mums to contend with.
68 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:22:57
OMG, what a bunch of wankers we have in charge of this club!!!!
69 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:26:06
70 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:27:21
72 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:29:24
What player would really want this for their future? They would feel ridiculed by team mates, and then the hassle of finding another new club in the summer.
Come on, be fair. The only way we get any business is short term loans or massively overpaying transfer fees and wages.
73 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:29:57
74 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:31:45
Therefore the events of that day would hardly have showed the club or its fans in a good light and might have been enough to put off the potential investors, or at the very least fear putting one of their people on the board.
A bit far-fetched perhaps, but we've seen Bill do similar crazy stuff in the past in order to keep his hand on the tiller.
75 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:39:37
Like you two, I'll wait until the midnight hour tonight and see what transpires in the transfer window.
I can always moan tomorrow, if I have to!!
76 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:40:55
77 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:41:24
78 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:41:58
79 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:42:55
We all know what a bunch of cnuts the board are. We all know the club's in total dissarray.
But what IS it with all and sundry feeling the need to come on and post the same or very similar moan ad nauseam.
We're pissed off, all of us, but Jeez there has to be a limit to the posts which are basically pointless rants.
For what it's worth I think we're going down. I think the change has been left too late to save us. I sort of resigned myself to the fact a weeks or so ago so maybe I'm ahead of others in the stages of grief!
I've reached "acceptance" because the months of sleepless nights from last season took a real toll and I can't go through that again!
So, call me a quitter, a bottler, whatever. I don't really give a fuck!
And I have to say. I feel better at stage five than I did at the previous four!! ;-)
80 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:51:02
81 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:52:35
He didn't even sound like he was there first choice Marc.
82 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:54:48
83 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:57:05
Any decent potential transfers lined up quickly change their mind. We sign no-one, we sell our best asset (not player in my opinion).
It's the last day of the window for goodness sake. We are scrambling around for any body now. When you could see all year what the team needs.
I hope that the new manager has a promise that he keeps his job if we are relegated. And has a plan to get us back up.
What will happen though he will be sacked in August. The board will faff about looking for a new manager for weeks then appoint some no mark just as the transfer window is about to close. And just after we sell Pickford and anyone else worth a few bob.
84 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:58:23
Ché Zach Everton Fred Adams.
85 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:58:58
86 Posted 31/01/2023 at 11:59:35
87 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:01:05
If the club can get sold and take the hit, I'd sooner be in Burnley's position this time next year, rather than in our own predictable position once again, but because you know what I'm going to say next, I won't say it!
88 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:01:23
We may have dodged a bullet there mate, I have been reading the pros and cons of this fella, and he is no stranger to a sick note, has rarely completed a full 90 minutes, so possibly a favour in disguise.
Besides, they are below us in the Table, and players are still choosing them over us. :-)
89 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:01:36
I'm still clinging to a bit of residual optimism, and am very happy to have Dyche, but it's hard not to feel dejected right now.
90 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:02:42
Once great club is the point. We can't even challenge clubs that were once seen as below us. Sleeping giant is another misnomer?
I think somebody on high forgot to set the alarm, and whilst every other team are/were conducting business we are in sleep mode!
Wake up, you have until 11pm tonight to at least get us a recognised striker!!!
91 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:04:26
Yes I have read the same, I was more interested to see the Coventry striker to come in as I think he is a good player.
But that now seems it is not going to happen.
I think we all know what is going to happen it will be Andre Ayew
92 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:08:08
He's the type of player who scores 4 goals in 5 games, then scores 1 more all season. Perfect fit for Everton then.
93 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:10:08
Marc I don't think the Gyorkes deal was ever going to happen.
His club's stance on him was, from the very start, was that he's going nowhere.
In the position they're in that makes perfect sense for them too.
More media lucky dip stories I feel.
94 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:14:29
95 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:14:36
Yes I did see that Coventry were insisting he was not going anywhere in January.
What is worrying though is it looks like the boardroom turmoil, fan unrest towards them and the fact they stayed away from the game the other week, players just do not want to come to Everton at the moment.
96 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:16:01
97 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:19:48
98 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:24:35
James M @ 92, Four goals against Arsenal and then again against the RS, could get him onto the Wall of Fame ! :-)
99 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:26:51
A club in disarray
Probably going down
A fan base that does nothing except tell them they are shit and not fit to wear the shirt.
100 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:27:33
Our new policy seems to be the same - but with Southampton replacing Spurs as the snatching club.
If we don't get anyone I wonder if Thelwell will do the decent thing and resign? Or am I being unfair on him?
101 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:27:41
Better to focus on Townsend and Garner being fit again. Simms can also be like a new player for us, particularly with the way Dyche likes to play.
So, as long as we don't do anything stupid, like sign Ayew, I think I can just about tolerate no signings today and hope Dyche gets the best out of what he's got. No more pass, pass, pass to nowhere. Aggressive direct football please, with no half hearted passengers.
102 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:32:07
103 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:34:17
104 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:37:28
105 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:37:46
I wouldn't rule out Gyorekes or even Ndiaye just yet.
106 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:40:38
I'm not so sure that the DoF is totally to blame for the mess we are in regarding the playing staff brought in during the Summer. And the playing staff NOT brought in, up to today.
I'm not so sure we are going to bring anyone in. Unless we can find players who we can sign on the never never, I don't think we'll sign anyone at all.
Thelwell brought some top players in for Wolves, so it seems to me he knows a decent player. My guess Danjuma is at Spurs, because of where we are and where they are, what we offered and what they did; and he got the offer (or his agent did) and scooted.
It seems to me that the last batch of players were brought in, because they were all we could afford. It looks to me that; even our board understand that we are in real danger of relegation. The only reason (beside sheer arrogance of the Chairman and incompetence of the Board) getting us here in the first place; is our financial state. It must be that we're up Shit Creek with our financial state. I can't believe that Everton Football Club have such lousy scouts, lousy coaches Lousy managers, and lousy DoF's, that we end up on the last day of the last transfer window in such a state.
A window which could have such a cataclysmic effect on our stay in the Premier League if we do not get (at least!) a good goaslscorer in. A good midfielder and a good creator/scorer wide man would be even better.
Listening to the interview with Moshiri, I'm sure I heard him say that if we need a goalscorer, we would get one! I didn't think we would be reading or hearing about a last day car boot sale choice (no disrespect to the players or to the DoF).
We'll find out after midnight, but it looks to me that Sean Dyche will have to make do with the playing staff we've got, plus whoever we get today.
I can only think that even Everton Football Club, would be so short sighted and amateurish, that our club could be left to face the last few months in the Premier League, fighting to stay in with so little firepower.
Oh, I don't know though...
107 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:45:05
Well done Bill and co! again. 😡😡😡
109 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:46:32
Do the cretins who run EFC not learn, we won't be so lucky this year.
Ayew!!!! For fuck's sake, I despair, why not just go and get Niasse eh?
110 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:47:16
Not surprised, every other board have done their business near the bottom, not leaving it till the midnight hour. The Board are a complete embarrassment.
111 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:47:35
112 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:50:50
113 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:51:38
One thing is clear though: other teams are blinking before us and signing players. That is not Thelwell that is finances.
We are unfortunately looking like the weakest team financially in the top flight – although who knows how big a gamble Forest, Saints and Bournemouth etc are now taking?
114 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:53:29
115 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:53:52
We aren't signing anyone of significance today cos no-one will come to this shambles run by clowns.
116 Posted 31/01/2023 at 12:56:25
117 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:00:46
Are players thinking "Feck that, I'm not going to Everton"? Or do players not get bogged down in that kind of media nonsense??
It's concerning that we are doing such little business…
118 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:06:10
Bear in mind players from other cultures have experienced much worse.
Have you seen some of what goes on in Turkey? Or South America? Africa?
Gordon getting chased by a couple of half-witted teenage ASBOs outside the ground is nothing compared to what some must have seen.
The fact that nobody wants to come is because they see we may well not be a Premier League club in 6 months time and they would be off anyway.
As for Gordon, I think his head was already gone in summer, long long before the recent incident at the Southampton game.
119 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:08:23
120 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:08:42
121 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:10:10
I'm sure he'll use them if he thinks they could do a job. Maybe get Tom Cannon back as well, and see what Sean makes of him. We'll have a better idea tomorrow but he could be an asset for us as well.
Bloody hell, desperate times; but the squad have our backing. The Board, they're useless and not worth bothering with until we are out of this mess.
122 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:10:13
124 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:11:53
The board have accepted relegation, and have got Dyche as a potential manager to get enough out of the current squad. But if we are relegated, hey ho, no bother.
125 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:16:13
It makes me wonder if Thelwell is any different from Lampard. He might very well have put his list of targets in front of Moshiri & Kenwright only to be told that it's loans only or crazy drip-drip deals that nobody wants.
Dyche already emphasising that there is plenty of talent in the squad was not a good sign.
Imagine saying to Pochettino or Tuchel, "Here is the job, the keys to Finch Farm and oh, by the way, we can't afford any incomings even if we sell one of our few goal outlets for 㿙 Million."
Anyone with other options would tell them to stick it, but Sean needs a job. It's a terrible state of affairs.
126 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:17:10
127 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:20:40
I believe that Everton will be better off going for loans like Hazard and Gallagher and The boy from Man Utd by offering an attractive bid as compensation instead of competing for less qualified players, we may not get who we want in a transfer deal but it may be more of an advantage going for loans.
I am not sure how loan deals are financed but we need help, and surely an experienced loan player would be better than an inexperienced player from another league. You can plan for the future when you are safe.
128 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:21:22
Thelwell needs to be some sort of genius to pull something together out of this rancid mess.
129 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:22:10
Might it still happen?
130 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:22:34
I believe Lampard worked with Thelwell and they presented a plan last summer to the board about what was needed and they evidently failed to give Frank the tools he needed.
Lampard knew he needed strikers last summer, who's to say they wouldn't sanction the deals for some of those we wanted like Brereton Diaz,or the lad Guirassy was mentioned too and has done ok this season in Germany.
Lampard seemed peeved that Ings went to West Ham with a thinly veiled "he's a fantastic striker" when interviewed about Ings move.
It seems crazy that Dyche has taken the job on with no hope of being allowed to add to this squad which is weaker again.
131 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:24:00
This is all a meticulously planned strategy by Thelwell and our quality, professional board. They are going to act decisively and late in the window to get the two or three players in that will give us the essential goals we need to stay up. Other clubs will be in deferential awe of our boardroom yet again.
They are waiting like a hungry mantis to swoop when they can't be countered. I take my hat off in advance of the perfect execution.
132 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:24:34
Totally agree, the lads chasing one of our players in the media, on top of where we are, sacking our manager, our own board coming out with their allegations and being advised it isn't safe to attend.
Makes for players erring on the side of "Nah, anywhere else want me!"
133 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:24:52
134 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:26:21
Now do we understand what Bill meant when he said Everton always get right?
135 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:28:23
136 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:31:44
So Sulemana off to Southampton….regarding other players linked with Everton, we are told nothing happening with Victor Gyökeres, Thorgan Hazard, Paul Onuachu, Sheraldo Becker and Andre Ayew.
So we need players to get us out of this relegation scrap but end up with less players with Gordon gone.
Absolutely embarrasing from the board, they obviously want Everton to go down!
137 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:33:40
Riquelme spotted at Liverpool Airport!
138 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:33:41
And I agree with Geoff # 126, why waste that money on more rubbish of the same calibre we already have.
139 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:37:47
140 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:38:39
The directors will probably keep a low profile hoping the heat will cool a little, but if we avoid the drop you can be very certain Uncle Bill will be front and center looking for recognition for wonderful job he has done.
141 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:39:16
142 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:41:49
Spot on there, I heard he had got the Job as Old Age Pensioners Liaison Officer !
143 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:42:49
144 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:44:05
145 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:44:53
146 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:47:46
Feel sorry for Ellis Simms. He must have his bags packed ready to go back up to N.E. but may be screwed over by woeful incompetence of the useless tossers around him. Andre Ayew ? Heaven help us.
147 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:48:24
Maybe Moshiri is trying to leave the balance sheet in as good a state as possible so he can sell the club. He's probably factored in the probable relegation by not reinforcing this terrible squad.
That's THE thing that bothers me with changing the manager. All of the underperforming players get yet another chance. Don't get me wrong, we were right to get rid of Lampard but some of these players are now being assessed by Dyche when 40,000+ fans know how good/bad they are.
148 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:48:24
149 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:49:17
150 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:52:13
I'm afraid it's cross your fingers time and hope that Dyche can get a tune out of what we've got. That said I think a fit Townsend will make a difference - he is a real Dyche type player who works his socks off, delivers decent crosses, and has a good shot on him. I am also hopeful that James Garner can finally get his Everton career going. The lad has been really unlucky since he came here, but living in Nottingham all my Forest mates tell me he is really good, and was the main reason they got promoted last season. They all wanted to keep him, but Man Utd said he was not for sale, only to sell him to us at the end of the window when Forest had already moved on to back up targets. They say he's particularly good at dead ball pieces, so again that is something I can see Dyche looking to exploit.
151 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:52:48
Anthony Gardner?
Still think Big Ant was underused by Moyes (actually never used at all) decent centre back the lad.
152 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:53:26
Spot on :) ! He'll probably contract a musical to be wriiten on how he saved his beloved Blues!
153 Posted 31/01/2023 at 13:58:36
154 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:00:38
155 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:02:18
156 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:02:31
157 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:14:55
158 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:15:49
Hungry Mantis? More like scurry mice scampering away to their hole to avoid scrutiny from the cats.
With the money.
159 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:16:38
Fans 100% behind the team.
#We go with what we have.
160 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:16:45
Scouting - check
Finance - check
Medical team on standby - check
Purple dildo outside Finch Farm - check
Fax paper - Negative. Quick, who sells fax paper?
12 deadline passes without incident
Dyche ‘happy with the team I've got'
161 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:20:15
The board better get ready, I sense a storm coming…
162 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:22:20
163 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:22:24
How on earth did Moshiri make money?
164 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:26:00
165 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:26:29
166 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:28:45
Both decent players who score goals and create!
167 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:33:07
168 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:44:08
Looks like a poundshop Lukaku, but that'll do.
169 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:45:08
170 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:45:16
171 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:46:08
Gyokeres seems like best / most plausible striker option. But we will be getting held to ransom as clubs know we are desperate!
Chelsea got to off load a lot of players,surely there's some better quality than we have.
Thelwell, earn your wages lad !!!!
172 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:46:28
173 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:49:25
174 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:50:29
But you've just given me a horrible thought about that musical. He gets Elton to recommission his song as the theme:
"Iguess that's why they call us Bill's Blues".
Apologies for the typos above in my previous post. I'm on a train Oxfordshire back into London and on the phone.
175 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:52:41
176 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:52:46
177 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:56:02
Look at Brentford. Who are those players? Came from nowhere and are storming the league.
Equally, we never seem to interview promising managers. Mosh and Bill always want PL experience. Some experiences aren't welcome.
178 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:57:39
179 Posted 31/01/2023 at 14:58:15
180 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:06:17
181 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:07:36
Wasn't Moyes a promising young manager? What about Martinez, Silva, Lampard? We have had young, middleaged and old managers. Doesn't appear to have made any difference at all.
182 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:11:52
Danger is, Southampton get him and mug us with Che Adams! What's the bet?
183 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:12:27
184 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:14:46
185 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:15:59
That would explain Thelwell's activity so far - and the fact that every target seems to be someone touted around to many other clubs.
To put it another way, the club is being served a limited set of options rather than hunting down its own targets.
I am not sure how we resolve this - it seems in large part a finances thing but could also be part of wider mismanagement.
186 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:18:52
187 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:20:48
188 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:23:34
189 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:38:45
190 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:40:44
191 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:45:56
It is so sad it has come to this but like another poster, I've moved on to the acceptance stage. It's not the despair, it's the hope that kills you.
192 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:52:07
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2023/jan/31/david-squires-on-bielsa-dyche-and-the-everton-manager-interview-process
193 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:55:00
194 Posted 31/01/2023 at 15:56:11
195 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:00:10
That cartoon is hilarious
196 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:03:07
197 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:05:00
198 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:05:17
Let's see how tonight goes. We must have something lined up right?
199 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:06:56
200 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:09:33
I guess these chairman are taking notice of what Everton would do that's why they are signing players that Everton wanted
201 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:10:51
202 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:13:08
203 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:13:57
204 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:19:01
205 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:21:39
206 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:22:13
207 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:24:21
The fact that we are attempting to conduct transfer business during the last day of the window is a sad indictment and our board members are not fit for purpose.
Surely, an organisation with a vision has a succession plan in place when a manager is sacked and a player is released for a sum of 㿙 million. It is a total dereliction of duty and our supporters are fully vindicated in terms of peaceful protests.
Thelwell has not improved our recruitment one iota as due diligence should have been completed months ago and signings should have been completed at the start of the month. A striker was imperative in the summer and, as at 31 January, we are still waiting.
The sooner our great club is bought by a new investor and the current board is removed in full, the better.
208 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:29:23
Failing to bring anyone in could be used in our favour, if propositioned right…
Sean Dyche could say to the squad tomorrow, after signing no one, ‘right lads, we tried to bring in some new players, but they all turned us down. They don't want to join a relegation-threatened, dysfunctional club, where the current players don't seem to give a shit.
We need to show them we're Everton Fucking FC. Play for the badge and fuck everyone else!'
Siege mentality!
Nah, fuck it. We're fucked!
209 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:30:20
Maybe our plan is to bankrupt our rivals by generating interest in over priced journeymen knowing they will swoop in? Much as we obviously need reinforcements, there haven't been any players we've been linked to that seem good buys either due to being crap or insanely over priced.
210 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:36:51
211 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:37:01
You're right. The players here need to take some responsibility instead of always expecting someone else to come in and do the hard work. All of these jokers are well paid an many cost large fees. They need to step up instead of pointing fingers around at each other.
212 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:39:11
Truth, Chelsea won't sell to Newcastle and the player doesn't want to come to us so he'll simply stay there.
For Everton not to get a striker in is criminal. Thelwell wtf are you doing at our club apart from stealing a living ?
213 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:41:39
214 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:43:35
Anyone coming in this late will be a low grade panic buy, as per previous windows!
I'm not sure how thick BK's skin is, but why has anyone we were interested in gone to southern clubs?
Is/has BK been trying to ‘do a deal', which has put any potential suitors off coming to Goodison.
It would be interesting to ask those 6 or 7 players why they turned us down?
I havn't got a crystal ball, but I bet the answers would be very similar!
Have the Board (BK) no shame?
215 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:43:57
That's the issue with this club under the current stewardship, we have bought players for the sake of it, but we did and still need quality players to add to the dross we have. Seven years is more than a reasonable cycle of the first team squad, we should be well on our way to building a fairly strong squad, but we're not. In the summer we will lose Pickford and perhaps other important players, that will further weaken the squad.
If we manage to avoid relegation this season, it will still be an issue this time next year, because in the last few years we have been unable to build a squad capable of competing in this division, that's because we haven't built a club that can cope with the competitive demands of the Premier League.
Much smaller clubs are now it seems able to outspend us. How can that be so? Who takes ownership for that? No wonder the fans are rightly upset, as they haven't seen anything in return for their loyalty or the money invested by the owners, but some people continue to blame them for the demise of the club. If the owner and board thought the scenes at the Southampton match were bad, I wouldn't like to see what they'll be like if Everton go down, because the board didn't act and failed to support the manager in this window.
216 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:49:26
217 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:51:14
218 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:52:59
FUCK OFF KENWRIGHT YOU FUCKING POISONOUS RAT! AND TAKE FUCKING L'IL MISS DYNAMITE WITH YOU!
219 Posted 31/01/2023 at 16:53:14
220 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:01:41
221 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:03:08
Everton make cheeky bid for Scottish U21 striker - Wee R. Gowin Down.
222 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:06:22
223 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:07:05
225 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:09:53
Am sick of checking every half hour for some sort of hope!
Relegation signed, sealed, and delivered after today!
Sooooo depressing
226 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:13:11
227 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:13:57
There's no fix for this now...
I guess that's why they call us the blues...
228 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:15:53
229 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:16:13
230 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:16:27
231 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:18:25
if anything does happen, I could actually imagine it being last minute deals for Onana and Pickford being sold.
232 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:18:28
233 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:23:51
Ground Hog Day, as it is in most end of transfer windows past for Everton.
Let's hope there's some players on an Everton shirt this evening.
234 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:25:40
235 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:26:20
Fat chance.
I wonder how much harm that Headlock Gate and the boardroom shenanigans has had on the club. Farcical.
236 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:34:43
237 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:37:46
With the 㿔M from Gordon and the circa 㿃M guaranteed from the sale of Keane at the end of the season that's a pretty decent lump to go towards levelling up the P&S situation and maybe making the club slightly more attractive to potential buyers (don't laugh).
Sorry state of affairs that I think even the average supporter could have prevented from happening had they been on the board.
238 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:40:27
239 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:40:38
The club is so dysfunctional, no joined-up thinking at all at board level. No wonder we are in this really precarious situation.
240 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:41:08
241 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:41:09
242 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:44:06
243 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:44:36
We just can't compete as a top flight club anymore. Prove me wrong Everton, please. A few hours to prove me wrong
244 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:45:04
I can't state this as a fact but apparently Graeme Sharp has said on Radio City that the protesting fans may have put off potential targets from joining Everton. Meanwhile, Man United fans have been protesting for about 15 years against the Glazers, didn't stop them signing players, didn't stop them winning stuff. I realise that the two clubs are very different, but fans are pretty much the same the world over.
245 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:45:37
246 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:46:50
247 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:47:11
248 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:49:13
I'm starting to fear that may be our only option, albeit a square peg in a round hole.
249 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:49:15
He has been sold a pup by the Board if this is the case. Bringing someone in to manage with 1 day left is negligent and criminal.
What's new? This is a suicide mission for any manager.
250 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:49:32
251 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:49:35
If true this is disgraceful and who needs a DoF if he can't bring ANYONE in???
252 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:50:23
Unbelievable. I read recently that a symbol of how dysfunctional Everton's board are was a shortlist with Bielsa and Dyche on. The inference being that a club who knew their identity wouldn't have two such different, polar opposite managers on it.
After this disgrace of a window. I'm thinking "What do Bielsa and Dyche have in common?"
And the answer is that they've both taken clubs to promotion from the Championship.
The board gave up months ago and engineered a scenario to discredit the fans knowing that they wouldn't be signing anyone and wanted to strike the first ‘PR' blow…
253 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:51:09
Mourinho quoted on Zaniolo "Unfortunately he is staying." Sounds like a popular guy.
254 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:51:38
At the beginning of the season, there was talk of a 120-point plan and recent events have shown just how ridiculous that was. Quite clearly we haven't any plan at all and we have become something of a laughing stock in the press and within the football world.
The only positive at the moment is the appointment of the new manager, who by reputation is our best chance of getting something out of our ill-balanced, low-skilled, low-in-confidence squad of players.
I sincerely hope there is a coming together, and a backs to the wall approach for the next two games. Please, please no passing between our goalkeeper and numerous centre-backs, let's get the ball in the opposition half as quickly and as soon as possible.
Two points from the next two games would represent a great team effort and just possibly a better more productive end to the season.
255 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:52:03
256 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:56:15
257 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:56:20
Didn't Moshiri say 2 or 3 days ago that he knows we need a striker and we will get one? Perhaps he means in the summer or once BMD has been finished and paid for…
258 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:57:27
259 Posted 31/01/2023 at 17:59:51
Sharpie is so out of touch, he blends in well with the board.
260 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:09:06
If Sharp thinks the fans protesting has put off potential signings, then him, and the other cronies on that board, better turn up in a suit of armour this Saturday if we don't get any worthwhile signings in within the next 5 hours, because I think the fans will really turn on the board if nobody comes in.
261 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:09:07
262 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:11:05
263 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:15:18
264 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:18:11
The creeps have been found out so we don't need any commentary from within. They have largely been absent or a distraction to on-field activities. So fine, you didn't buy anyone so we don't need to waste any energy on what is a bit of a black hole.
I'm not getting one in on the good people criticizing the club right now. Just saying there could be ample time for that in the future and we've still got a fucking chance against these other shits having a laugh. Let's make the most of what we have and get on with it. Not going down.
265 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:18:28
Happy clapping mediocrity-accepting idiots.
266 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:20:38
Poor guys.
267 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:21:55
It'd be an even more powerful statement than thousands staying after the match. Very much doubt he will though.
268 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:22:48
Do not blame a couple of nutcases chasing Gordon to make him want to leave, this happens at all clubs when they are losing, we just don't hear about it.
The problem is as plain as if you towed a banner behind a plane. Everton, your owner and board are a failure. We as supporters are asked to get behind the manager and players, why don't the Owner and Board do the same?
As a Supporter since 1954 and used to players coming to Everton as they were a top premiership club, it really saddens me that players will pick a team that normally finish in the middle or lower in the league rather than move to Everton. This is the most damning evidence of the scandalous position the Owner and Board have allowed the club to sink.
Do not blame the supporters, the only problem with them is they left it too late to complain about a problem that is obvious to everyone else except to the people that are the problem
269 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:25:32
270 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:26:48
As far as I can see, there was only one player it would have been good to get into the Everton team at the moment, Lewis Dobbin. Having seen his super display at Derby the other night he looks to have the football intelligence and even the fitness which is so absent from the current team.
271 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:27:57
If fan protests really put players off, Man Utd (for one) would never sign anyone.
Personally, I never expected any signings of significance – other than maybe one on loan.
Still won't be that surprised if Branthwaite goes (always assuming the alleged PSV bid for him was genuine).
In other news, I see Cenk Tosun has scored again!
272 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:28:59
“There is quality in this squad. But we have to make them shine. That's the job of me and my staff.â€
Best get polishing.
273 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:31:28
274 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:40:35
Dyche may not want some of the identified. We are told he was looking at players last week; who have we got? Jack shit.
The whole management of the club, minus Dyche, are a disgrace. There has been no policy on players or when to get them in. No policy on the style of football so you can get players to fit the philosophy. Today, we are a laughing stock.
275 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:43:21
Because, forgetting how unattractive we've become from those elsewhere for whatever reason, and there are many, it was never financially feasible that we'd be in a position to purchase the required quality in the required numbers.
We don't have to look very far from home to see how inflated the market is, when we can demand 㿙M for Anthony Gordon, and without getting into his merits or otherwise, as others have already done that to death elsewhere, he's far from the finished article. So we need to avoid this tendency of being led by the nose and attracted to below-average players we've never heard of, or rather I've never heard of.
This time last week, everyone was going nuts about this lad from Sheffield Utd that we were rumoured to have bid 㿀M for which was knocked back. I'd personally never heard of him.
But I got to see him at the weekend in the cup tie at Wrexham, and to say he was shit would've been kind and made the 㿙M the Barcodes paid for Gordon look like a bargain, in fact the scouse lad Mullin for Wrexham looked 10 times the player.
Also, this guy who we've just missed out on to Southampton from Renne that our fans have been going ape about. I've never heard of him before either and I doubt whether most others have either. I defo didn't know anything about him till I googled him.
What do you know: it seems he's another sick note and only started one game for them and hardly completes 90 minutes… sound familiar? I also looked at his stats and not exactly remarkable either with only 1 goal and historically nowhere near as good as Maupay's were during his Brentford and Brighton days.
So the point I'm trying to make is, just because they're shiny and new with an exotic name, doesn't necessarily mean they're an upgrade on what we've already got, unless you pay a helluva lot of money for the guaranteed upgrade in quality, and unfortunately those type of players have a habit of being the reserve of clubs a lot better than us.
That's not to say there aren't unpolished gems out there, which better run and structured clubs than us can still uncover, but that's another thread and gonna take a lot longer to put right than we've currently got with our latest crisis.
But getting back to the topic in hand, and that's focussing on what we've got and, as an example, I've already touched on Maupay's previous stats at both Brentford and Brighton. That's before he joined us and we tried to turn him into Calvert-Lewin lite, an unsupported target man, which was totally alien to him.
His previous stats we're almost identical in numbers of goals scored and assists to Richarlison. That's why he might be a better option than all these unknowns with stats that don't bear comparison, particularly at this level and in this league?
By playing him more to his strengths and teaming him up with Calvert-Lewin might be a better option than wasting millions on gambles who're statistically not as good and certainly not proven.
For fuck's sake, we're now being linked with Ayew coz he's free… 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
I would suggest that the biggest task in hand is whether Sean Dyche can get a tune out of what we've got and whether he can keep them injury free. Despite all the criticism, we do already have some decent players and in the main better than most of the other relegation candidates?
We've also got the likes of Garner, Patterson, Townsend and Godfrey all on their way back from injury, so what we've got ain't that bad?
Providing Sean Dyche can get them better motivated, organised & playing as a team, which encouragingly appears to be one of his strengths, together with first and foremost making us more difficult to beat, then we've still got a chance with what we've got.
If we'd just got a single point from each of Wolves, Southampton, Bournemouth, Leicester & West Ham, which should've been achievable with a better manager, we'd have 20 points now and not even be thinking about relegation.
It was Lampard's obsession with passing the ball to death playing out from back and through the lines and losing the ball before we even got out of our own half that did the damage... 🤦â€â™‚ï¸ðŸ¤¬ðŸ˜¤
Rant over.
276 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:43:22
On Tuesday, Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust reiterated its calls for the board to outline the strategy and vision for the club, calling for "clarity and commitment".
Admittedly there were only around 60 folk who turned up to the Spurs training ground on the 21 January, to protest, but apparently, according to some of our fellow Evertonians, we are too demanding of our club and the team.
Imagine, if Everton were still in the FA Cup, with an outside chance of another Champions League qualification. Goodison and this and every Everton fansite would be bouncing.
Some Everton fans are meeting up at Finch Farm tonight at 7pm to show their unhappiness at the current plight of the club.
277 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:47:28
278 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:49:33
Dyche has not been given much time to contact footballers that are loyal to him. Everton grasping at the last minute at out-of-reach players and not being able to secure loans is a bad look.
Dyche has probably copped on that the transfer procedure as described by Moshiri, who said it hadn't worked, is as bad as Moshiri said.
I expect that Dyche will be dependent on the existing squad. At this stage, it is close to impossible to think otherwise.
Dyche's strength is he has worked with Keane, McNeil and Tarkowski and his ability to organise with a priority to get the ball directly forward. I think Maupay will benefit from this also.
279 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:54:59
I think we're seeing the actions of club leadership who either:
1) Have accepted relegation and are planning accordingly; or
2) Do not plan to be at the club much longer.
I mean, a bid for Gallagher smacks of us having no plan or targets in place ahead of time. It looks like someone thought "Chelsea have just signed a few players, they must have someone going spare".
We're now asking Dyche to be a miracle worker which is pretty unrealistic.
280 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:55:14
281 Posted 31/01/2023 at 18:59:56
What is happening now is the lifeblood of the club, the supporters, are realising right now that the Board and the owner have lied. "If we need a striker we will get one!" unless we get 2/3 players in of quality, Sean Dyche will have to get the best out of this squad that he can. We've done that in flashes so far. Now it's got to be consistent.
The Board are a bunch of incompetent, lying, charlatans.
I think he can do it. Whether we will be good enough, strong enough and fit enough, we'll have to wait and see.
My view is every supporter can see what's happening. We're on our own but the supporters will back our team.
A bit dramatic this, but I call it the "Great Betrayal" All the history of EFC for the last 70'odd years hanging on a squad with no reinforcements
282 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:03:12
283 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:04:45
284 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:05:27
I think Moshiri and Billy the Liar have convinced themselves that we won't get relegated and Moshiri is not going to spend any more money as he wants to sell as quickly as possible.
If Dyche keeps this squad up he deserves a statue outside the new stadium.
This board and owner cannot be allowed to continue. We simply have to get them out of our club.
285 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:07:14
286 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:07:48
287 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:08:05
I believe the Gallagher deal fell through because Mosh wanted Noel and Bill wanted Liam.
288 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:10:06
If we do it will just be panic buying at inflated prices.
We should have had our targets lined up and deals stuck in advance instead we get into price wars with the likes of Southampton.
Maybe everything was dependent on the Gordon transfer to give us the funds and when we finally got the money other teams had already sorted the deals.
Thelwell needs to get on the ball and earn his money now by lining up deals for the summer with both the premiership and the championship in mind.
If we haven't got the funds for known players maybe it's time to get a few new signings into the U21's which we can fast track into the first team over the next few months.
Proves one thing though,our scouting system needs a total overhaul and if that doesn't work the the man at the top needs to pack his bags.
289 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:10:17
290 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:11:18
While Dyche tries to shine the turd Thelwell has to bake it and sell it to incoming players.
It fucking stinks at Everton
291 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:14:06
292 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:16:45
Moshiri keeps making it clear that Thelwell is the man who is accountable for the football side.
If they legitimately tried to strengthen then someone must have failed and needs to be held accountable. If they didn't legitimately try to strengthen the status quo remains until Moshiri gets a buyer.
I don't see any possible alternative now... unless the club shocks me by suddenly closing out on deals they've been working on for weeks.
293 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:19:36
Anyone expecting Calvert-Lewin to stay fit and start scoring 25-yard screamers or the midfield to pass forwards, or clean sheets is going to be disappointed.
The buck stops with the incompetent board, and Kenwright, who have been here for years, messed up Kings Dock and brought in Moshiri.
To the guys who like looking back at certain years in the '0s and '80s, that's all we will have.
294 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:19:44
295 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:22:53
That's not true the doctor did say "Koff" when Bill presented him with the Electricity bill for the machinery he had been using in the medical centre.
296 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:23:48
297 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:24:31
It's too perfect, too repetitive, too relentless, too thoroughly destructive. I no longer believe in this degree of accidental incompetence pervading at this level for this long.
Decision made: Everton's turn.
298 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:27:00
299 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:27:37
Of course it could all be what might be described as "mismanaged decline" or the owner and the board are so fed up with the supporters unrealistic demands – as they see it - that they have decided to put two fingers up to the fan-base.
300 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:28:31
This is orchestrated.
301 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:28:32
#SackTheBoard
#KenwrightOut
302 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:32:33
It should certainly unite Dyche and the fans against a cowardly board who should feel ashamed.
303 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:33:47
There has to be a reason for not having any sort of contingency plans. If Calvert-Lewin got injured on Saturday, we'd have to rely on Simms to fill the gap, which is doable but not at all ideal.
304 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:36:22
You can add Branthwaite to that list – assuming of course that he doesn't go today.
305 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:37:19
This last day shite is – and always was – a load of utter bollocks.
Even under 'normal' (?) circumstances, it's basically leaving your Christmas shopping until Christmas Eve... at 11:30 pm.
Only in Everton's case, with about 70 fucking pence.
306 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:37:30
But I reckon Gordon has realised that there was a danger we decided not to sell at the last minute if we couldn't get anyone in, and so went nuclear to force his way out. Hence Everton, being absolutely furious with him. I think that fury was genuine.
307 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:41:16
308 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:41:16
KENWRIGHT OUT!
309 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:43:30
There's no conspiracy. We spent big and unwisely a few years back. We made poor managerial appointments (Benitez and Lampard) and then wasted what limited resources we had in the summer on the likes of Maupay and McNeil.
310 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:44:36
Is it fact that money does not have to be paid up front in the case of players being touted around by agents?
311 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:45:28
"Enhanced security procedures and protocols are being put in place for the club's players and staff," and that, "the club can confirm that Everton's next fixture at Goodison Park (Arsenal on Saturday 4 February) will also be categorised as high risk."
Given that statement, I would expect the board to remain absent?
312 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:45:38
What a surprise 😂😂😂
313 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:48:33
No, I mean that presumably agents only bother approaching us where the selling club might accept money on the drip. Otherwise, there's no prospect of transacting. This will severely limit who is a realistic signing.
314 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:48:52
315 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:49:35
I would just stop asking now, its getting embarrassing.
316 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:49:46
I tend to agree and the wages that we have thrown at players has never been sustainable either, it has been a terrible waste of time and money this last seven years.
317 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:50:07
This is Moshiri keeping his word…'I told you we'd sign a striker'
318 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:53:17
319 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:54:06
I am breaking a rule that I made when I was 15 years of age, and now actually feel sorry for Sean Dyche. He wanted the job, he's going to get very well paid for doing the job, but this owner and his totally inept board, have driven a massive wedge between themselves and our supporters now, and it's going to become brutal.
Instead of facing the fans, they told lies, helping to push a false narrative (except for a few stupid kids) and I expect things are going to explode very soon.
No love lost between the fans and Gordon, just like there was no love lost between Franny Jeffers, and the fans, and no love lost between Wayne Rooney, and the fans. Take a final bow Bill Kenwright, because you are surely facing the final curtain, you horrible, deceitful man.
Ayew might end up going to Forest, Tony.
320 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:55:08
322 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:58:09
324 Posted 31/01/2023 at 19:59:18
325 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:00:15
Moshiri and the board must be delighted and chilling tonight congratulating themselves on getting the hang of this footy lark. The nuance of the quality of incoming vs outgoing isn't their concern.
But then what does Graeme Sharp bring to the party? Bill gushed, “We were determined to have someone join us with not only great knowledge of Everton but also extensive football insight and experience. Someone who could support and challenge. And in Sharpy's case we've got this in abundance.â€
The statement went on “In his new role, Sharp will utilise the wealth of knowledge of the game he has been amassed over more than four decades to provide valuable input into the Club's football strategy.â€
The board can't get off the hook for this shambles.
326 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:02:01
I give up
327 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:03:34
328 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:03:56
Now our "project" is not good enough for Batshuayi...
329 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:05:06
330 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:07:12
KENWRIGHT OUT IMMEDIATELY
Protests must not stop against this dysfunctional board.
Billy Bullshit, it's time to go.
331 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:13:31
A,aaayew yew yew, push pineapple, grind coffee
To the left, to the right, jump up and down and to the knees
Come and dance every night, sing with a hula melody
332 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:14:35
333 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:15:03
334 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:15:13
Got to just hope that Dyche can perform a miracle and make us hard to beat and pick up some points. Is that a flying pig I see?! Oh no it's Fat Bill on the first plane out tomorrow morning!
335 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:16:18
336 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:18:08
In 2011.
337 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:18:27
338 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:19:30
339 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:19:37
Wouldn't you love a half hour chat with him.
340 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:24:21
341 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:24:35
My hope is that out of chaos comes some kind of backs-to-the-wall, fuck-you, last-chance-saloon inner strength that we didn't know was there.
342 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:31:08
Bananas, eh? Think I'm going to the game too.
343 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:31:30
344 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:32:24
For every single thing to go wrong in such a spectacular manner is impossible. A group of chimps would, by accident, have done better. Something is wrong, something is strange.
345 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:33:31
346 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:33:43
347 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:34:12
That is my hope to and to be honest our only hope – Shitshow FC.
348 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:36:36
What a joke.
Let's hope that with Gordon gone he gives Stanley Mills a chance and maybe one or two others. Backs to the wall, 90 minutes of defending with long balls out of defence. Maybe a few bookings and a possible red.
It's not going to be pretty. Not looking forward to it. A bumpy ride a head.
349 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:36:56
350 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:37:27
Christopher, it was him.
351 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:39:28
352 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:39:44
Now do we understand what Bill meant when he said Everton always get it right??
353 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:40:57
Part of me expects him to walk, saying his hands were tied. Or for him to be sacked (paid off) and the club have another scapegoat for the failure to sign anyone.
354 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:45:20
Unbelievable
355 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:45:55
356 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:46:16
357 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:46:32
I think you might have found the answer to all our problems.
358 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:50:05
359 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:50:21
360 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:51:21
361 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:51:46
I don't buy the suggestions of fan protests putting players off and We aren't the only club in the relegation zone. Southampton and Forest seem to have no problems getting people in, so I wonder if we were ever seriously in for anyone. The Gordon money being used (with the Arteta money) to help with stadium funding.
362 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:52:52
You can now see why our managerial situation was so difficult.
And it now looks like Gordon was sold out of necessity, to save us from going under.
I do still think we have a chance under Dyche even without additions. It will be hard though. Very hard.
363 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:57:12
Sharp is definitely showing his Bill colours.
364 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:57:37
Don't remember when it was but I posted on here that Kenwright wanted us relegated so he could pick up Moshiri's shares for peanuts and become our proud owner once again. Don't laugh. I meant it.. After another comedy show all we are going to get from the January window is broken glass in our faces,
No goal scorers, no hope despite the promising words from on high. I believe that too. We are totally shafted and the sooner everyone accepts that the better. If there are any signings they will be tokens only and trying to appease rather than meaning anything.
I feel very sorry for Sean Dyche who, if he manages to keep us up, deserves a medal and our wonderful owner must then do something decisive and get rid of the Chairman and his acolytes before they damage the Club even further.
Final note. Dyche and the players needs and deserves our full support for his task from now onwards because he isn't going to get it from the numpties in the Boardroom anytime soon so do your bit please.
365 Posted 31/01/2023 at 20:59:36
I defer if you heard something concrete, Robert, but didn't we hear this after Richy went... and then look what happened.
Who knows - truth is becoming a rare commodity.
366 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:03:39
I hope no one blames those fans who have turned up at FF tonight - the club are to blame 100%
367 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:04:25
Simms will deputise for DCL and needs to be 100% ready to perform because we will be relying on him in this formation.
368 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:06:29
In the board room, they have completely failed in the results business and yet we are stuck with them, because Moshiri does not have football nous and yet he is a supposed to be a successful business man. I can not believe that FM has not sacked executives in his business.
Kenwright, to my mind, has only made three positive contributions:
1. Getting Peter Johnson out of the club
2. Signing David Moyes
3. Signing Roberto Martinez, who gave us out best PL points total and provided great entertainment in the short term.
Clearly, the inference is that Kenwright is leading Moshiri by the nose with a mantra of Football is not a results led game or is it a sad narcissistic sad luvvie paranoid about not feeling important anymore!
369 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:07:19
370 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:08:43
No luck on the chimps, they've gone to Spurs, but I've got my hands on a few meerkats. Will they do?
371 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:08:49
I read on G.O.T. that the event at FF was cancelled, as the club is alleged to have pleaded with them not to attend, the other rumour is that Spurs persuaded them to attend its training ground at the last minute.
372 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:10:16
Fella named Enner Valencia, fresh off a brilliant World Cup, scoring four goals in 30 minutes for Fenerbahce, giving him 19 goals in 17 games, far and away leading the Turkish League:
https://www.beinsports.com/us/turkish-super-league/video/an-unstoppable-enner-valencia-scores-4-in-hal/2030824
And over in Serie A, a spectacular solo effort by the league's second leading scorer with 12 goals, including 7 in the past 4 games... Ademola Lookman:
https://eaglestrackerng.com/blogs/highlights/lookman-goal-vs-sampdoria
Life just totally sucks sometimes.
373 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:11:06
374 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:13:39
The DOF, must also be accountable, but we're his hands tied, effectively having no influence, in terms of his transfer strategy, as DOF, at EFC?
Hopefully Dyche will creat a dirty dozen, siege mentality with his squad and retune some of the players and they get their spirits back.
Massive challenge ahead for EFC, as it stands, in terms of boosting the squad, be it by new players in, or nurturing those we have to get better.
But in football, any thing can happen.
375 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:15:00
376 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:16:58
Thank you. I have a better understanding of where you are coming from.I think you could be right.It is unusual the players that Everton are reported to be involved in negotiations with seem to be touted round a few Clubs and have a choice who they sign for.Also free of contract players seem to be also pushed forward.
Everton are not in the game as a Club regarding players they would seek. They are definitely not player on your or Sams list. Thewell as Director of Football has the job of being first contact, with a bit of Manager input with this merry go round. Then a requisition form is sent to the Chairman, according to Moshiri.
It really does make you wonder what planning goes into the selection of suitable players.It really imo looks that Everton players of value are touted about most of the transfer window to get profit in and then a scramble takes place to get a bargain loan or something on the cheap or on the drip.
377 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:17:18
KENWRIGHT OUT !!
378 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:20:44
379 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:22:59
That would be a poor look were they to stay away for the new manager's first game.
Their actions have given the media endless options whatever they do.
380 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:24:03
"Another player not going to Everton, Elanga on loan" and they all laugh.
Shame on you, Kenwright. We are a joke.
I call on the Holy Trinity to visit Kenwright tonight and simply say "What the fuck have you done to our once great club, you fucking bell-end?"
381 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:27:40
382 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:27:55
383 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:30:45
We've needed a striker since June. Failed to sign one in the summer (god only knows why we signed Maupay and McNeil) and now, having had the whole World Cup period to scout strikers to join on the 1st Jan, we're left at the 11th hour on the 31st with. nothing. Even a 6-month loan, anything, seems beyond us.
It's truly shocking to think a Premier League club is being run like this. Over half a year to sign one single proper striker. A 10-year-old can see from a mile off this squad lacks goals, yet we kept signing defenders and midfielders (but still ship goals).
I truly despair for this club. It wouldn't surprise me if the board failed to turn up to any remaining home game this season. They must surely know the game's up, the fans have simply had enough and many would happily take relegation if it guaranteed a complete change at the top. It really is a sad state to be in.
The only silver lining is that I believe the rubicon has been crossed and there's no returning for Moshiri or Kenwright. People want them both gone and it will get ugly if they don't move on before next season.
384 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:31:00
Sack the Board, Thelwell – resign if you're not backed.
385 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:32:04
May I suggest one banner: ‘Just Go, Bill'. 😢😢😢
386 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:32:10
387 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:35:04
388 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:35:36
Who's going to turn down a multimillion contract when unemployed? If he wants to make the squad shine, he'd best get polishing turds.
389 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:38:16
That's likely the reason he hasn't made changes at board level, hasn't acquired the forward he said he would, and of course has said nothing about the new manager – unless I missed it.
390 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:38:28
391 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:40:37
We've needed a striker since Lukaku left?
392 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:43:31
We are the worst run club in the history of football anywhere in the world. What they have achieved sets a standard of ineptitude that will stand the test of time.
It is the equivalent of a two-minute mile, climbing Everest in a track suit, swimming the Atlantic. It is awe-inspiring.
393 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:45:22
394 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:46:39
395 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:48:46
It's tough life for a football manager.
396 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:50:11
The board, including that tosser Sharp, have taken the piss out of the fans just too many times now. We are going down and not coming back up.
397 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:50:36
Some of our fans have a lot to answer for…
398 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:50:43
399 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:51:09
"Thell Well - Buy Poorly"
400 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:52:32
402 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:53:08
If it doesn't happen, then my trust in him as a well-heeled owner who has the best interests of the club at heart is toast!
If he does nothing between now and the end of the season, he needs to get rid of the board and replace them with proper commercial and football expertise.
404 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:53:49
That's cos he's just been snotted by Sean and he's lying in a bin.
405 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:54:53
The board have failed the new manager and the team as much as the fans tonight. It should never have come down to this. Business should have been done, maybe it was dependent on finances but we have what we have.
It goes only 1 way now, the fans, the manager and the team coming together again and fighting like fuck to stay in this league with the players that the board gave us.
Fuck everyone including the board, siege mentality, we shall not be broken.
Protests against those on the board are right and long overdue but should not take away from support for the team to win games at Goodison.
Get right behind the team for the next 4 months but never let the liars get away with it!!!
406 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:56:26
Even a journeyman striker would be welcome. I just don't understand it.
407 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:56:58
One of the day's best. If there's a better one, it will come at the end of the transfer window.
408 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:57:14
I think you'll find it's the board and director of football that have got a lot to answer for while the fans have been exemplary.
They've had all summer and now this window to get players in and have failed miserably. Selling Gordon is just blatant asset stripping. That cash will now not see the light of day.
When we go in April or May, Onana and Pickford will be off and the Iranian will sell to the lowest bidder. Thelwell should be sacked for dereliction of duty. We'll get the usual excuses. Sick to death of it.
409 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:58:58
410 Posted 31/01/2023 at 21:59:14
And hopefully Townsend and Patterson get fully match fit soon. These two lads on form will make the squad much better.
Looks like the targets are for players in teams in a better position. Should of been a big list of targets from the Championship of players in teams with absolutely no chance of promotion so they are "gettable".
411 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:01:02
412 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:02:29
I reckon Lampard and Thelwell had to make hard choices on who to bring in as last Summer's bargain basement choices. And I agree that we haven't made the best of what players we've got. Your point about some of the names (expensive names) we've been linked with, are probably not worth it.
I think where we've continued to fall down, is missing out on players that have cost a few million, like those that Brighton and Brentford and other clubs, have recruited, and are playing like superstars. We seem to have gone for expensive players who haven't really fitted the bill.
I think as well though, what we've been going to the match and watching for years, has not been anywhere near good enough. Why? a lot of reasons and already been through.
But this last season so far, and the delay in trying to bring an improvement has been extremely poor. Culminating in the antics by the Board members up to and including the last home game, and continued up to now, has just been atrociously ill advised.
There is a feeling among us that we have been kidded (I'm being kind!) by the board members, to the extent that many of us feel they have fallen in their responsibilities and that there is no plan to resolve this fall towards relegation.
I go along with you that we have decent players who haven't been organised to be able to use their talents more effectively. You mentioned the stats of Maupay while at previous clubs, can Sean Dyche get more out of him, I think he can. Townsend is a good player and will be back soon, Garner is on the way back to fitness, as you say.
So, I think we've got enough players to make a good fight over the next half of the season, to save us from relegation. I think Sean will give EFC as good a chance as anyone, to pull us away from the relegation places, with the squad we have got and giving the youngsters a chance.
However, I think the Board, led by Kenwright, are guilty of an awful dereliction of duty in running this club of ours in a fit and proper manner. And that's been going on for years, leading us to where we are now. So I won't be holding my breath to see someone come in who is a last-minute panic buy.
413 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:02:36
Reece has now gone off their list?
414 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:03:54
415 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:06:17
We'll struggle to win 2 games after today. We're down, it's all over. Complete neglect from a board that shouldn't even be there. Next season there will be a fire sale of players to get the ludicrous wage bill – 96% of revenues – down, and more losses. All of these contracts overseen by the board. Bigger losses on the P&L means points deductions are very real.
BMD is now nothing but a pipe dream as we simply can't afford it given the financial structure that Kenwright - once again - has us in.
Unfortunately he sold everything else last time. No doubt Goodison will be failing it's safety certificate soon but at least we can ground share with Southport when we're in League 2. And there won't be another Moshiri to let him play God.
People will lose their jobs, Evertonians will lose their football club.
I sincerely hope, Bill Kenwright that you are thoroughly ashamed of what you have done do this football club. All for your own personal gain and ego.
But I won't hold my breath. There's always someone else to blame for your incompetence, including the fans which love this club more than you.
But at least you had some good times sat in the directors box rubbing shoulders with the great and good. Being chauffeur driven to and from games,'home and away. You are a disgraceful human being.
416 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:06:49
417 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:08:27
418 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:09:30
Salomón Rondón, Aug '21
Joshua King, Feb '21
Moise Kean, Aug '19
Richarlison, Jul '18
Cenk Tosun, Jan '18
Nickola Vlasic, Aug '17
Wayne Rooney, Jul' 17
Sandro Ramirez, Jul' 17
Henry Onyekuru, Jun' 17
Other than Richarlison, our 'scouting' of forward talent really takes some beating. For such an important part of the pitch the lack of attention to signing a quality striker is quite stark.
The above list covers 4.5 seasons and 10 transfer windows. Richarlison is/was the only player who was of a decent age and proven in the top flight when brought in. The rest were punts, cheapies and just bad bad buys. (I don't count Maupay as a striker, albeit would just compound the dross listed.)
419 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:09:51
Agents are greedy but they're not fucking stupid, they want to keep their clients on their books. Blame the fans and you're colluding with the owner and board.
420 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:10:15
421 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:14:37
But that has changed tonight - with Fulham and Crystal Palace sealing new signings.
That now leaves Everton alone as the only top flight outfit to not recruit a player in this transfer window.
Source: The Echo.That must be another first for our strange and wonderful club.
422 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:15:06
423 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:15:19
Felipe to Forest!? Weren't we in for him at the start of the window?
424 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:15:45
And Richard Widmark gives John Wayne a knowing look of "we're fucked" while Lawrence Harvey tries not to react and convey the idea it's no big deal.
So I am thinking this will play out at Finch Farm tomorrow with Kenwright as Harvey, Dyche and Thelwell as Widmark and Wayne, and our chief scout as Wayne's boy. And we all remember what happened next.
425 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:16:30
Even though the police contradicted their story a week later and the pundits were embarrassed to say the least, the harm was done. Well done, Board and Sharp.
426 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:17:00
It's more duplicitous spin by Kenwright and Prentice – imagine blaming the lifeblood of the club for all their mistakes. It's so low it's untrue.
They're trying the divide and conquer tactics. Don't fall for it. It happens everywhere.
How many people saw what happened with Roma recently? Do players not want to join them cos they have “Ultras†who are far worse than a few lads chasing a car.
Get a grip.
Police called after angry Roma fans confront Zaniolo at home
427 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:17:01
I take it you mean some bizarre form of self-flagellation?
Otherwise, I'm good for a fiver... :D
428 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:17:39
429 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:18:30
I have never seen such a complete disorganised shit show of a transfer window from us. Absolute scattergun amateur madness. What an almighty mess.
431 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:22:00
If you want to kill a club, Everton would be used as an example. Has this been a deliberate act of spite?
432 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:22:22
There's no coming back from this now.
This was our last moonshot to avoid relegation. We simply had to bring in new faces.
We have just sold our joint top scorer with three goals.
We sold Richarlison in the summer.
We needed new faces for the “bounce†effect.
We are the only club in the bottom half not to sign anybody.
They've accepted our fate, haven't they?
It was obvious for all to see!
Pep couldn't get a tune out of the lot we currently have playing for us who won 3 all season so how are they going to win 7?
Absolutely negligent on all counts by that shower of a board
There is no way they can ever show their faces at Goodison again / they sealed our fate today. Moshiri lied again with his FAB interview.
I know I'm venting but I am gobsmacked even from the point of view I thought they would at least try to protect their investment which will dwindle with relegation.
Incoming multiple headlocks if they ever have the brass neck to show their faces at Goodison!
433 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:23:01
Stupid twat.
434 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:24:02
435 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:24:55
If Garner, Dom, Simms, Maupay, Patterson, Townsend can get going again anywhere near their potential, there is a tiny glimmer of hope.
436 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:25:41
437 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:26:06
Here's hoping…
438 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:26:14
439 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:26:19
For fuck's sake (and I don't normally swear!!), break the piggy bank, mug Bill for the Arteta money and get them in!!! Pay them what they want!
'Totherwise, we are well and truly goosed...
440 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:28:02
441 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:28:28
Connor doesn't want to come here, even on loan (reported earlier today) and Potter won't sell him till summer;
And Potter doesn't want him here. Not good for his development apparently. Wise man is Graham methinks.
442 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:30:01
It's embarrasing. Do we just call up the same players every window knowing they will say "no"?
443 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:31:56
KK [424] Glad you game back after you left us yesterday. Great analogy, unfortunately too close to the truth. Can I play Santa Ana in this scenario please? :D
444 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:34:14
Now that I'm getting over the disappointment and anger of how bad this is, how bad this looks, and how much shit we are in – I am almost looking forward to hearing from the board why, and how we failed to get anyone across the line! (Tho my guess is they'll send Dyche out on their behalf.)
Whatever they say, it's just gonna make it worse.
445 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:35:42
Not now, Moshiri.
446 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:36:16
A lot of competition for that role
447 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:37:35
448 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:38:25
449 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:38:28
We have been guilty of pretty mind-blowing levels of incompetence in the past, but this January has taken it to a whole new level.
To quote the infamous banner:
"Our expectations for you were low, but HOLY FUCK!"
450 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:39:11
451 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:39:13
452 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:40:40
Starting with our home game on Saturday & then for every game till the final whistle draws this reoccurring nightmare of a season to its final conclusion & hopefully those who are the soul of this great club have done sufficient to preserve its legacy despite the treachery and incompetence of those halfwits who have no place at our club, and believe me come what may we will have our day.
454 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:41:56
455 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:43:25
All high-ranking (I hope I spelt that correctly ;) ) officers would be taken out and executed after a prolonged, say 33 years, period of torture... To say it would be slow would be an understatement!
456 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:43:43
457 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:43:49
Who could defend the Indefensible?
458 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:44:09
Still, we are two points from safety, and we are going to be one horrible team to play against once Dyche gets going, so never say never. the future may not be as bad as it looks, Farhad is going to sell up in the next 18 months, and then we can get back to some normality.
459 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:45:06
460 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:47:24
The female Everton fan on the show- I can't remember her name - said "Everton is an analogue club in the digital age", she also fears that we haven't yet reached the nadir, not simply our standing in the league, but she feels there is a lot worse to come. I hope she's very wrong, but the vibes we've been getting since before Christmas haven't been good and there aren't many signs of things improving. Over to you Sean!
461 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:47:26
462 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:47:26
Rob #447, I am the same. Can't sleep either and have little or no motivation for anything. I just feel completely betrayed.
463 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:48:54
It's pitiful but dyche must find a way. If not? Attracting players to play in the championship is another matter.
Night all
464 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:50:19
Kenwright must not wriggle out of this. Goodison Park should be out of bounds for him and his disgusting cronies. Now is the only chance, while the spotlight is on him. Doesn't mean not driving on the team.
465 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:52:57
466 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:53:47
If a club is no longer in a position to attract players, if it is being called the worst run club in the country by mainstream media, if the disaffection of the fans continues to deepen to a point where it is irreconcilable, then there has to be a breaking point. How much can fans take?
467 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:55:04
468 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:56:06
469 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:56:18
470 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:56:37
The gesture bids that were tabled knowing they are going to get rejected are a bit puzzling. Why not just say the squads been assessed and no need for transfers in. If transfers are needed, go big on the one player you want where they are really gettable.
Looking forward to the explanations...
471 Posted 31/01/2023 at 22:59:53
And the place is deader than Heaven on a Saturday night.
So I lift my glass to the awful truth
Which you cant reveal to the ears of youth
cept to say it isn't worth a dime
And the whole damn place goes crazy twice
its once for the devil and once for Christ.
The boss don't like these dizzy heights
We're busted in the blinding lights of closing time.
It's closing time
472 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:00:30
473 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:00:57
Sadly, dereliction of duty and total lack of care, by the Board, - Dyche, will need a few miracles, and more.
God only knows, what's gone on, but the transfer strategy so called, has been rank poor in summer, and seemingly as dead as a Dodo, in this window.
Up to Evertonians, to deliver the mission this season..
Townsend, and Patterson, will be like new players in, and Dyche, Stone and Woan, will need to be brilliant to turn this Team, around.
But 17 Cup Finals, and perhaps at least 8 wins needed, to sneak a safe position, but hopefully Soton, will implode after tonight's defeat, and so we live in hope of other teams being worse than Everton's current form.
474 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:01:05
https://twitter.com/andytomo5252/status/1620551713404100609?s=20
475 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:01:52
If it takes relegation to rid the club of these corrupt imbeciles then so be it.
476 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:02:09
477 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:02:55
478 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:03:45
Pickford, Coleman, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, McNeill, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, DCL and Maupay. 4 4 2. God help us.
479 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:05:41
480 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:06:04
481 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:07:28
482 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:08:58
483 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:10:40
Why no Gray?
484 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:11:02
485 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:12:32
486 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:14:18
487 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:14:55
In the bottom of our hearts
we felt the final cut
488 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:15:15
Did he end up at Southampton
489 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:15:23
Throw the shits up the Arsenal team before they even set off/
SSN reporting that Southampton and Bournemouth spent 100m between them
490 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:16:22
It is easy to understand, today the players hold all the cards and because of mismanagement, players do not want to come to a club that is flirting with relegation and is being run poorer by people that are too full of their own importance to realize it. Simple no thanks I don't want to go to a club in disarray is the answer from players, not how much will you pay me.
491 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:16:26
That quote taken from Lyndon's report about the FAB interview with Moshiri, just seven days ago, seems so much twaddle now.
492 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:17:09
They've had 31 days to get someone in, also they've had 6 weeks prior to that with the World Cup break to do the background necessary to get two players in who can score and create goals. This is not something that has crept up on anyone, we've known for months, since the summer failure to get a striker, that we need more goals in the team.
It's just incompetent and inadequate for a great club like Everton. I've never seen such a complete mess of a transfer window, an unmitigated disaster by all concerned in our hour of need.
These amateurs have put our beloved club in jeopardy.
493 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:17:51
494 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:18:34
495 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:19:31
Guilty, m'lud. You might say the evidence before the court is incontrovertible.
496 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:19:34
I think we are heading for total annihilation under Moshiri. What use a fabulous new ground if we get relegated. We will have been destroyed by the wet dreams of a clueless clown who had way more money than sense. I'll still hope for a miracle, but every other team is way better than us so I won't be surprised if we fail. Just need a miracle
497 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:20:27
Now watch where the fingers point.
498 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:20:45
The directors must either a) be totally and utterly useless at their jobs (objectively speaking) and/or b) hate us fans for protesting and this is their revenge
I simply cannot believe the team that are bottom, struggling to score and winless for 2 months have weakened themselves. It's beggars belief
499 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:21:26
Fucking scandalous!
Welcome to Everton Sean Dyche good luck mate your gonna need it
500 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:21:44
501 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:23:40
502 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:24:30
Not only are we now unable to persuade even non top players to join us, we're now the subject of jibes and jokes in the media...and probably deservedly so. Because of the ineptness of the board we've become a total laughing stock.
If we get stuffed on Saturday it could get very, very ugly.
503 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:25:22
Bill Gall @ 268 - I've been a Blue for the same number of years. I'm finding this hard to come to terms with. I do expect we will go down this season -unless miracles do happen. I expect no charity from any of the other teams!
Sad times.
504 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:25:27
Moshiri I just give up what a basket case he's turned out to be.
505 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:26:04
I suppose the consolation is that Dyche leaving early is not as bad as Brands walking his big dog.
As for our Director of Football, Thewell, why do I not have confidence in him developing youth. Braithewaite and Nkounkou back in the fold is something to look forward to.
But it just shows you why supporting the team and Dyche is vital maintaining pressure on Moshiri and the Board is essential.NSNOW.
506 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:26:12
507 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:27:08
508 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:27:26
FUCK OFF KENWRIGHT YOU FUCKING RAT!
509 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:27:45
I wonder whether they think we deserve a full explanation tho. Probably not. Perhaps thisthe biggest indictment, but also the strongest proof of their incompetence. Its actually not actually getting anyone over the line. Its not having the balls, the grace, the common sense and decency to tell us, to explain, to communicate with us.
510 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:27:51
"My inside is sad
I like to forget my life
And find what you have found
But I wasn't blessed with that knowing
And I can't help sinking down
I give to you my heart my soft fun
I'm lying, crying, god I'm dying by you
My fear of being such a lonely one
It hurts me inside, that's alright"
511 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:30:44
512 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:34:43
Subs: Begovic, Allan, Godfrey, Davies, Van de Beek, Welch.
That was the team and subs for the Crystal Palace match last season, it might prove to be the last time that an Everton team would see Goodison in joyous mood, unless of course we manage to do similar this season or bounce straight back up next.
That '“This is the most critical time in our history and almost an existential point†remark by Moshiri, is still haunting me too.
513 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:35:38
Take the club down to its lowest value then buy it back at a cheap price and control the whole club.
Even if thats not true the whole board including Thelwell has to resign and be replaced by football people not amateurs with a self serving plot.
I cant put into words how enraged I am by this total incompetence.
514 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:35:48
You are right. We can support our players and manager, during the match. We can make Goodison uncomfortable for the opposition.
Barry. 476.
I agree, we can cope' and maybe James Garner can be that schemer. Gray Maupay, Townsend, Lewin, are all capable of scoring goals. Let's see how we develop with Sean's coaching.
515 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:36:35
The worst part is if we wasn't constantly lied to I could accept us not spending, I could live with the club saying Spurs never made a signing for 2 years when building a ground and Arsenal sold all there big names while building also.
Moshiri tells us whatever we want to hear but by the looks of it he's played his last hand.
516 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:37:09
It would probably be better for all concerned if the board stays away which I am sure they will. For me, resignation is their only out now and for Moshiri to sell up as soon as he can find a buyer.
Strangely, perhaps the fans can help by giving our undying support yet again and keeping us up and thus a better prospect for new owners.
Come on Sean, get the team into shape and fired up!
UTFT!
517 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:37:35
The January transfer window is now officially closed, and Everton (it appears) have not made a single signing to back the new manager Sean Dyche. Sleepwalking into relegation.
518 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:37:40
519 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:38:18
But today, I get it. He's been at the club long enough to know what an absolute shower of shit we have become, and that there's only one direction we're heading under the ridiculous comedy fucking duo of Moshiri and Kenwright.
He chose to jump from a sinking ship, and I think that probably makes him smarter than the rest of us mugs who are still here.
520 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:39:39
521 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:41:09
522 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:41:13
523 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:41:15
524 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:41:30
Dyche deserves our support for being brave enough to risk his reputation on us. A few players deserve the support but the shirt they wear means all of them will get support. No idea if Kevin Federline is a fool or had his hands tie but the rest of the board deserve only contempt
525 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:43:41
526 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:43:42
Only thing we can do now is get behind whatever team the manager puts out and keep the faith.
We are Everton,always will be,nothing will ever change that.Not this ownership and management, not relegation,nothing.
We will always be there.!
One good thing, I bet no Board members will dare show their faces at Goodison for the rest of the season and I believe this is the beginning of the end for all of them.
Too late for this season maybe, but they can't come back from this,the fans will never wear it!
527 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:46:09
528 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:47:46
The other clubs at the wrong end of the league must be looking at us wondering what on earth we're doing. They'll believe they've strengthened their squads while we've sat by and done nothing.
We're reported to have been in for several players but the fact that no-one came through the door leads me to think that there's something going on behind the scenes. Something we don't yet have a full picture of.
529 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:48:05
I think it was Derek Knox before who suggested picketing the Liver building? But then again are Bill and Mosh ever there?
530 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:50:29
531 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:50:51
532 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:52:42
In big business you get what you deserve when you let poor, unchallenged leadership do what it wants.
533 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:53:38
"Nothing But The Worst Is Good Enough".
534 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:54:10
It cannot happen. It would need a new board in place first and then Kenwright & Co to resign. Otherwise liquidation of the club could occur, if I'm not mistaken. Someone please correct me if that is not the legality of the situation.
535 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:54:45
That's the thing. You can make offers but are they credible? Sarr for example supposedly we wanted to loan with an obligation to buy if we avoid relegation. How would that appeal to Watford? If they want to sell him then they'll sell him. They don't want to weaken there team for six months and see if we might buy him. Beto, Giroud and others. Who is going to move from overseas with a few hours notice? You make such offers well ahead of time. They are not serious when made an hour before the window shuts. But we've seen this before when Blackburn agreed 8 million for Barry Ferguson then we offered 2 million less. Or Kuyt, Owen etc just bullshit activity so Bill can pretend we tried. We've had a whole month and even four or five days since we got the Gordon cash. If we had any serious interest we'd have moved before today. I sincerely believe the delay in appointing Dyche was designed to run down the clock.
536 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:55:28
537 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:55:53
Sell one asset for £40-£45m with a promise to reinvest all of it, and come up with nothing?
You can't tell me that all the players linked to us, didn't want to come, because if they didn't want to come, why L3 FL were they touted?
Thelwell take a hike, on the face of it your are Kenwright puppet. Just go.
Sharp, just go and carry Kenwrights luggage on your way out.
DBB you don't just get it, do you? Go hide under Kenwrights umbrella.
Kenwright, words fail me, please if your reading this just go, please 😢😢😢
Moshiri, get us out of this mess you entrusted to Kenwright.
I dare any of the board to turn up Saturday v Arsenal.
538 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:57:18
539 Posted 31/01/2023 at 23:57:34
540 Posted 31/01/2023 at 00:00:25
Every team, regardless of its ability, which visits the Grand Old Lady in the next few months is the enemy and has to be beaten, none of this a draw is a good result because of who we are playing nonsense - although, admittedly Saturday's match is more than a tough fixture to begin with.
Now more than ever, we need to energise the ground and make it as difficult as possible for the away team, because, in reality the future of the club is at stake.
It's a lot to ask of the hard-pressed support, but we've done it before, we can do it again. Save your energy for the match and if you need to make your point to the board or the wider world, do it after the game, regardless of the result.
541 Posted 31/01/2023 at 00:00:26
542 Posted 31/01/2023 at 00:00:53
544 Posted 31/01/2023 at 00:01:58
Dyche now has a free hit for the rest of the season, as he won't be blamed when we get relegated, as we surely will. No goals, no guile, no imagination, no pace and a a defence craking more than a really creaking gate in a farce 12 gale.
F Off Everton. F Off Kenwright and your minions.
Well thats me banned !!
545 Posted 31/01/2023 at 00:06:41
The silence from the board is telling, the one who winds me up the most is Sharp, he has become an arse licking sycophants, when the shit inevitably hits the fan he'll have to go and work for a living, because no one will employ him in football ever again.
546 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:06:48
Same happened last season when the goals and assists provided by James, Sigurdsson and Digne were not properly replaced.
All we have left are a relegation squad.
547 Posted 31/01/2023 at 00:12:01
It is what it is. It's not worth asking for a statement, from the club, on why they never purchased a forward. Because it will only be, lying bullshit. Now is the time to forget what's happened in the transfer window and get behind the team.
I know Dyche will get a better tune out of these players. If needs must. Let put Coady, Kean or Yerry up front. Got to be better than that yard dog, at Man U. Just saying. So. Come on, the twelfth man.
UTFT.
548 Posted 31/01/2023 at 00:12:54
Moshiri and the board have shown themselves to be not only incompetent but also bare faced liars and I suspect corrupt.
549 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:13:11
550 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:14:12
If you are … then you're as bad as him as you can fuck of my too … anger is through the Fucking roof
551 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:35:41
552 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:37:29
553 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:38:54
I'm not surprised just angry, like I have been for weeks.
If we go down then there is absolutely no way we'll come back under this group of creatures making the decisions.
554 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:42:19
555 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:43:19
556 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:44:25
557 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:45:57
558 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:49:00
559 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:51:52
Hopefully, this little piece of old humour will help us feel a little better.
560 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:56:18
Either way, it would make his position untenable, and I would have expected him to speak up or walk. Then again, has he had to sign a non-disclosure agreement to protect the real culprit (s) ? I just hope we all can rally round and support Dyche to the hilt, but the players have got to step up and be more responsive on the pitch. On Sky Sports tonight we were almost a laughing stock that we were the only Club not to have had any activity.
However, Clinton Morrison, who I am not a great fan of, but fair does to him, he did believe that we would just escape relegation. No guarantees but the players have to do their bit, I 'm sure Dyche will try his utmost, and I think they are in for a shock with his training regimes.
561 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:05:00
562 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:26:41
But Kenwright and his 'Little Miss Dynamite' have stretched my endurance beyond it's limits. His rose tinted boys pen lies are as much a sham, as the present day whoppers he shamelessly trots out to us long suffering fans.
I hated 'The Pen' as a kid. You couldn't see a thing and were constantly fearful of the older bullies in there. The man is fittingly, a failed actor.
As for Baxendale, she knows little or nothing of footballing matters and even less of our history! Kenwright's appointment of her was a nonsense. A CEO is a crucial position at the head of any Company. Would you enlist as CEO of an oil rig for instance, someone who knows absolutely nothing about oil? Or CEO of a Bank, someone who knows nothing of banking and so on?
Its totally flabbergasting and would be laughable if the implications weren't so terrifying for the future of our club.
I believe that they are desperately hoping that Dyche's efforts will save their necks by avoiding relegation. I do not believe for one second that they share the devotion, passion or desperation of the fans of Everton Football Club.
563 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:30:50
You have shown some bottle to take this job on so late in the day and I assume knowing that the cavalry were not going to be signed to help come to our rescue.
COYB.
564 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:34:39
“Catastrophic failure by the owner, the board and Kevin Thelwell.â€
Matt Law
“Unbelievableâ€
Alan Myers “Never would have believed it.â€
565 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:35:16
By the time Dyche finally came in, the club was clearly in shambles, the Gordon debacle was going down, and for all we know he had 10 targets lined up and they all chose to stay as far as away as possible. It would make no sense for anyone to come our way if they had other options, unless the money was obscene — and then we'd all be complaining that we'd been taken for a ride once again.
So we arrive on deadline day with all our targets gone to other shit clubs or telling us to fuck off, and I do see the silver lining that we maybe we avoided another Tosun or Walcott episode. That said, given where we are we might as well have coughed up 㿙 million for any attacking midfielder or striker with a history of scoring 10 goals/season in a decent league, even if they were worth 㿀 million less. What else did we have to lose?
So yeah, fuck the Board. I've never said it before publicly, because it felt shitty to feel that way, and because I don't have the long history so many of you on here do. But they're complete failures, all of them, and they sure as hell don't deserve to be attached to this storied club.
May Sean Dyche be our savior, and may Calvert-Lewin find 10 goals up his sleeve in the next 4 months. So many thought we were done and dusted this time last year. Maybe God will reveal himself to truly be a Blue and work a miracle for us again this year.
566 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:37:57
Another manager, no money, no new signing and the real prospect now of hitting rock bottom.
Ain't gonna happen--right !!
If we had some real punch up front I would say we will get out of this mess but we don't and so the struggle to get wins will continue unless Dyche can get a bid improvement from what he has in other areas.
It tells you that even potential loanies couldn't be persuaded to join us and that is a really sad state of affairs.
I am dreading the next few weeks.
567 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:38:06
What happened?
Well in my view the perfect storm happened:
1. Lampard found the players he had couldn't play the way he wanted. We keep losing, he gets sacked, by which time we are in the bottom 3.
2. Kenwright and co throw the fans under a bus and blame them for their absence and assault, threats, none of which are substantiated or reported to police. The result is they leave the team and manager hanging out to dry at home in a vital match. We lose. But the smearing of the clubs supporters by the board makes worldwide news. The scene is set.
3. Transfer window opens, no activity, no manager. Finally, with just a day of the window left Sean Dyche is appointed, Gordon forces transfer, toxic and tears.
No signingings, targets look at club and say no, situation at club, turmoil, fans demonstrations, joint bottom of the league.
From a prospective players perspective, bottom club, not a high class manager, fans in revolt, poor board, look certain to be relegated.
Christ on a bike, who would WANT to come here?
So we end up actually weaker in the team but stronger manager ( we hope)
We have been shunned, never mind the money, no loans, no purchases.
It's so bad the pundits are laughing at us.
Disgraceful. Sickening incompetence. Shameful.
Just how low will you lot go? Are we at the bottom yet?
Rant over, have to move on.
What now?
The new manager has to inspire, focus and drive the players on. We have got enough to get out of this mess, but it will be graft. Anyone and I mean anyone, who hasn't got the stomach for this fight needs to be dropped.
This may not be pretty, but has to be done. It's the end of January and we are bottom of the table. Stuff the board, don't let them anywhere near the players.!
No protests before or during the game, 100% support for manager and team.
Post game, wave the banners, let Moshiri know, we are on a hiding to nothing, keep quite and we will be in the championship in a blink.That cannot be allowed to happen, we have to do our bit.
I am stunned, angry, but not surprised. But that was yesterday, today we have a new manager who needs our support.
568 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:41:44
569 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:44:15
Log on here to find no incomings whatsoever and genuinely hate myself a little for still feeling deeply disappointed, despite the scenario being exactly as I expected.
Still, there can be no doubt Thelwell turned up for work today well prepared, armed as he was with his trusty 120 point plan:
#117 (Transfer Deadline Day):
Switch all the lights off, shiftily peek through the gap in the blinds a good five or six times like you're holding a room full of people hostage, settle down in your sleeping bag for the night with a big pack of salted peanuts, a safe and snug cocoon to reflect upon where you go from here…..before absolutely shitting yourself and thrashing about the floor wildly, rolling from side to side, squealing like a stuck pig whenever the phone rings like in that scene from Audition.
#118 (Day After Transfer Deadline Day)
See #117 (but REMEMBER to mix it up a bit, Kev. Big bag of Monster Munch instead of salted peanuts, perhaps).
570 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:45:20
It's us against the board, who claim they are a shining example to most other clubs. It's us against the self preservers, it's us against the bare faced liars, but we can't afford to make it, us against the team.
I don't know how it's even going to be possible to find the positive energy to back the team, but this is what we must try and do. Our supporters helped pull the football club, out of a massive hole last season, and this is something we have got to try and do again.
This will only be possible with resignations, so don't hide behind your lies, whilst trying to switch the gear and turn Evertonians, into a bunch of lunatics, with the help of your friends in the sycophantic media, because it won't work.
You have gone to far now, so for the good of Everton football club, admit your failings and your lies, or just go quietly out the door.
THE FANS ARE RESIGNING THEMSELVES TO RELEGATION, BUT IF THIS NEPOTISTIC BOARD, MADE THE CORRECT AND HONORABLE DECISION TO ALL RESIGN, WE MIGHT JUST FIND THE STRENGTH WITHIN US, TO TRY AND SAVE THE CLUB WE LOVE, ONCE AGAIN.
571 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:50:32
572 Posted 01/02/2023 at 01:59:49
Dyche must have known the score, so he will only have taken the job because he believes in his ability and he wanted to manage Everton. Let's get behind him, no matter how hard this seems right now.
573 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:01:38
This is utterly mortifying
The ONLY club not to sign anyone when the only club that really needed to
574 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:01:47
Personally, I don't believe that even our club could be this incompetent. We're seeing a deliberate attempt to mitigate financial losses despite sitting on the precipice of relegation. It's now managed decline of a football team - they've taken a view that there is simply no point investing in this club as it is going down regardless.
I'm not even surprised. It's partly what I thought would happen (I actually thought they'd save face with an insignificant signing).
The harder part to answer is where this leaves me, and I'm sure many others. I've had a lifelong relationship with this club. I've loved it regardless of what has been going on. I'm not too sure what I'm looking at now, but it's not my football club.
Dyche talked about everyone uniting. I'm sorry Sean, but it's completely and irreversibly broken.
575 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:08:28
I agree. Colin Glassar has talked of manager decline for a long time. It seems Bill would prefer to let the club sink into oblivion when he hits the big time as if Everton was a long running show that the curtain comes down on
576 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:08:42
577 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:09:51
To your point I haven't heard Dyche say a word about signings since he arrived.
578 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:10:18
579 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:17:53
He said, "Thelwell (note, not "Kevin") makes the football decisions and then submits them to our fabulous chairman who, if he agrees with Thelwell, then forwards them to me. If I agree, we sign/sell the player."
Thus Thelwell, reputation aside - albeit any employee of Moshiri/Kenwright will have no case to answer in terms of alleged incompetence in the future given the risible antics of those two in the world-wide world of football, is castrated as a so-called DoF by his very own employers in terms of benefitting the club.
He no doubt has long decided to just take the huge salary they swore to pay him, pending them booting him out with a seven-figure NDA pay-off.
Everyone employed by Everton financially benefits enormously unless you're a fan - or a dickhead owner, led by a self-aggrandising charlatan shyster of decades'-long notoriety to anyone with half a brain.
580 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:31:55
I think we're in agreement Neil. Maybe my wording was misleading.
You're quite right, it is Moshiri 's call and yes he can sack Kenwright & Co. The chances of that happening are remote and the compensation packages would be I believe, massive. Their resignations are probably just as unlikely.
I wish I knew the answer. They are taking us for mugs.
581 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:32:57
I'm convinced that the announcement of Sean Dyche as our manager was delayed so long because they had told him there would be no new players due to financial Fair Play and Sean had asked to look around at what he had to work with before signing. He was also told to sign an NDA which he probably knew was coming but in the end it was only his bravado and the obvious money involved which led him to sign.
This clown Moshiri has somehow managed to overtake Kenwright as the single worst person to have ever been involved at our club in its history. If the new manager bounce does not work against Arsenal and we get mulled then I see big trouble around Goodison.
Good luck Sean Dyche. Your going to need that thick skin of yours.
582 Posted 01/02/2023 at 02:54:33
Because if master psychologist Dyche can get him anywhere like he can perform we will have another weapon to fight relegation with. He will be motivated, Dyche too because he needs players with skill. Stuff the cost.
Its gamble time.
583 Posted 01/02/2023 at 03:05:04
Good post. Also as to Thelwell resigning in protest. I'm sure he's well paid but no playing career of note, a few academy jobs, stint at Wolves. I don't imagine the guy is loaded. Presumably he has a mortgage and bills to pay. And if he quits this mess, who's going to hire him? He's just another patsy
584 Posted 01/02/2023 at 03:17:47
May as well get them all back: Gomes, Gbamin, Dobbin. Moise Kean. How many relegattion threatened clubs loan their striker to Juventus? Like they can afford him anyway.
Imagine we are paying the majority of their wages anyway.
585 Posted 01/02/2023 at 03:35:49
Alli will be trickier. He'll cost us money and we've seen that we're not spending.
586 Posted 01/02/2023 at 03:42:52
587 Posted 01/02/2023 at 03:43:48
Dyche won't allow any doom-laden narrative to take hold in the dressing room. We should ensure that the same is true in the stands.
Living well is the best revenge and it is the best way to knock the smiles off the faces of those who are currently mocking us.
I expect Dyche, and the team he has chosen, to receive the most powerful welcome Goodison has ever witnessed on Saturday.
588 Posted 01/02/2023 at 04:10:15
589 Posted 01/02/2023 at 04:33:08
It's just a shame that a couple of Evertonians behaved rather badly, because all we needed to do was apply reasonable pressure and this lot would fall through their own incompetence.
590 Posted 01/02/2023 at 04:34:00
All of My mates disagreed, admittedly most had very modest contradictions to zero. Maybe just two was the commonest assessment.
And here We are:
Zero new faces
Most money incoming
But the horrors of what comes next will not be laid at the door of:
The whimsical owner
The seriously ill Chairman(so much so that his vision is severely impaired, but still in post)
The first time, football knowledge free CEO
The Director of Football who still has not appointed a Head of recruitment
No.
Not their fault.
US, the long suffering diehard Fans.
Be prepared for "The Board" to deploy deflector shields in the run up, or immediately prior to Saturdays Kick Off.
591 Posted 01/02/2023 at 04:40:46
592 Posted 01/02/2023 at 05:04:24
We have made so many desperation signings in recent years we would be better off without.
593 Posted 01/02/2023 at 05:18:48
594 Posted 01/02/2023 at 05:35:13
595 Posted 01/02/2023 at 05:43:02
To be fair, I'm pissed that those lads did that too. They gave the Board exactly what they wanted. Such a minor way to lose high ground.
596 Posted 01/02/2023 at 05:44:41
597 Posted 01/02/2023 at 05:50:59
598 Posted 01/02/2023 at 05:58:14
I've said for a while that I genuinely believe Everton's boardroom want relegation, I don't know the reasons but it seems they do.
They are planning for it and nobody at the club can have any complaint when we go down in May because we will have totally deserved it.
I'll bet Frank Lampard is massively relieved that's he's out of it.
599 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:19:16
I think Tony Abrahams captures it now though. We have now choice to get behind this team and the new manager.
I can't contemplate going down. The board can wait until the summer as they aren't going anywhere just now unfortunately.
601 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:25:58
I hope we stay up but if we go down, at least we might win more games than we lose. Is that a compensation for failure this year? No, not really.
We do need a new board. Time is up for those directors who hide behind another's failure as an excuse. Time comes when you can't blame the others for failure when you haven't had the balls to be critical.
I have experience in this in both UK and Australia. Diff country, same thing. Time for Mosh to stand up and be counted. Relationship between chairman and CEO stinks of under performance and so both should go or the board responsibilities should be reorganised.
The current model is dysfunctional.
Here's hoping Dyche can save us from the drop this year.
602 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:28:48
Unfortunately mate, Saturday will be absolutely toxic, it will be hateful and frankly horrible.
There were protests last night outside Finch Farm so Saturday brings more of the same on a far larger scale.
I don't feel sorry for Dyche, he's been around the block as a manager, he's a tough fella and prior to taking this job he'll have seen the situation at this rotten football club so I commend his guts for taking it on.
But to think there won't be a massive demonstration against Arsenal on Saturday is putting our heads in the sand.
This club is going down and possibly out of business before long, Moshiri and Kenwright need to know EXACTLY how we all feel.
603 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:32:23
604 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:36:13
I have said it before and I'm saying it again.
Maybe the only way to get rid of Kenwright et Al is to stop going altogether. Three matches of not going and we can force them out.
The alternative is that that fat bastard will stay until he's in his coffin and that could be a long time. By then we will be a league one perennial
605 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:36:19
Yet another tragic episode in the Everton saga.
606 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:42:57
607 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:44:13
It's an absolute disgrace, we are all on here hurting and all because of a few clueless running our club. Remember Moshiri, it's our club, you may be the owner, but it's our club and you and your gobshite pals our destroying it.
Have some balls and tell us why we didn't sign anyone!
608 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:45:49
The writing was on the wall anyway when we ''offered 45m for Gallagher but he didn't want to join'' and when Dyche said '' we need to work foremost with the players already here''
There was never going to be any new signings.
609 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:47:15
Everton - bottom of the league (almost)
Since 2016 - Martinez, Koeman, Silva, Allardyce, Ancelotti, Benitez, Lampard - now Dyche. Not including Unsworth and Ferguson
3 directors of football
Squad now - brought in McNeil and Maupay - both on the bench
Viangre - loaned, never plays
Garner - bought injured
and now
in need of recruitment, sold another creative player - 45 million - but, no one in!
Did they not contemplate changing manager?
What does the DOF actually do? Is he allowed to do it?
Is it a managed decline as some are suggesting?
Richarlison and Gordon gone
Before that - Digne, Sigurdsson and James
all the creative players
wow
From other clubs points of view - risible!
Remember the guy from Villa who was loaned in and never played (Al Gharzi!?)
or Josh King!!!?????
Weirdly run club it has become (in Yoda voice)
And Everton have a striker on loan to Juventus - but cannot score!!??
You match going fans deserve a medal folks!
610 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:55:28
Changing track, I see that Manchester United got Marcel Sabitzer on loan.
I watched him rip Schalke apart a few years back playing for RB Leipzig. He scored a screamer in the first minute and tore poor Jonjoe Kenny to shreds throughout the match. I wish we had made a move for him under Ancelotti and when we were willing to spend.
611 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:56:29
I wouldn't listen even if anyone at the club did come out.
Moshiri is a lying little sneak "we need a striker, we'll get a striker"
Well fuckin' show us one then halfwit?
Between him and cobweb head Kenwright, totally destroyed the club over this last six years.
Even since the Southampton debacle on January 12th every major decision they have got wrong.
We had SIX WEEKS while the World Cup was being played, to study a plan of what was needed regarding the manager, the incoming players for January, but they did absolutely NOTHING.
Right down to waiting a whole week to appoint Dyche, after the fella was unemployed, no compo needed paying but you wait until a day before the window closes before appointing him.
Dragging out the Lampard sacking when the writing was on the wall in November after the two Bournemouth shellings.
I wouldn't put Moshiri in ownership of a kids teaparty.
612 Posted 01/02/2023 at 06:57:31
Get behind the players and manager. Relegation is a cert if protests take over. Sadly bill and co are going nowhere yet. I fear the worse this season but Mr Dyche might keep us up. Stop wasting energy on the board. Let's all get behind the players. They really are our only hope!!
613 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:00:28
Excitement with the build up to hosting Eurovision, which is great for the City. But they only went and showed footage of people singing "that" song.
At least the Liver Birds were lit up in blue. The bird is blue.
614 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:01:35
The fact that Sulemana chose So't'on over us speaks volumes for how we are viewed. To make matters worse just watched the news and they showed Gordon sitting on ythe Geordie bench and grinning like a Chesire Cat that he is
COYB
615 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:05:16
616 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:08:06
There will probably be a few appear on here too
The cynic in me thinks this is a Cambridge Analytics type approach by the club. The sad thing is you get blues agreeing with them.
It won't be long before one of the usual suspects King Maddock publishes a "club sources" that players didn't want to join because of fans protesrs. They had targets identified but they didn't like the toxic fans at Everton.
This board of cowards will never set foot in Goodison again and every single game the fans will be blamed. This narrative is going to be pushed even more.
The only hope left is Dyche can turn this around. I do think he possibly can, it's the hope that kills you every time
617 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:16:59
A rebuild is needed in the summer, not now. It would have been great to see Gyorkes come in, but it looks like we've spent what limited funds we had this season on Maupay, McNeil and Firing Lampard and his team.
618 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:18:10
We can stay up. With Dyche it's not over yet.
But it is frightening to see us in a worse financial position than we were before the Moshiri acquisition. What a disaster he's been.
There was talk of us linking up with the owners of Augsburg and Estoril. I can see that happening. It at least gets us on the player development path (albeit about 5 years or so too late).
619 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:23:59
The force is strong with these!!!
Sean Dyche is Yoda
620 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:24:01
I'm absolutely flabbergasted with it all.
And I agree with previous comments I fully expect a planned media campaign from the club that this is all down to fans confronting players, protests etc.
621 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:25:16
It seems like the integrity and passion of the average fan is being dragged through the mud and derided.
Our pride and loyalty violated.
This latest shit show is not just incompetence, it is self preservating design.
622 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:29:10
I'm glad we didn't buy any players in this window and shelled out millions on shite players who will drain this clubs resources. Let Dyche do what we have all said do and give some of our younger u21/23s or u18 a game. Let's be honest here, most foreign summer signings take an age to settle in and get up to speed in the premiership. At least our youngsters will run through a brick wall for the team.
I agree that fan's chasing cars would not keep away players from joining this club but a clause in their contract stating their wages will drop if/ when relegated would. For me, that's what all this is about contracts and if that's the case well done because being stuck in the championship with players on mega wages will kill us.
Onwards to Arsenal and a well earned 2.1 win. REMEMBER THE NAME 😉
623 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:33:04
Saving money in a hope the team avoids relegation, to spend big in summer?
No good options available, therefore avoiding repeating the mistakes made in every transfer window for the last six years.
Young players coming back from loans, as options - maybe they'll fight for a place more than over paid players finishing their careers?
Help me out here …
624 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:37:04
Andy 616. Whether you like it or not some players will be put off by videos of players being chased and abused in cars. Fact.
625 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:39:57
You have my vote as Chairperson, when the long awaited revolution starts ! We do have the tools (excuse the pun) in our ranks, it is just getting the correct formation of those parts, a task that was glaringly beyond the much liked, but stubborn Lampard. A fully functioning Dele Ali, which we haven't seen yet would go a long way to that solution, and as you rightly believe as I do, Sean Dyche is most likely the Psychologist to effect that.
I know it's early days in his tenure but retrospectively (sorry Darren) we doubtlessly would not be anywhere near the shambles that we find our once great Club in, had he been the Helmsman. Still, turning clocks back, and reversing tides is an impossibility and far too late, but we could and should learn from this Board's mistakes, and forge a new way forward.
While we have enough games, and potentially enough points to guarantee safety, or survival, we still have to try and gain the maximum from every game left, no matter how futile it may appear, starting this, and next Saturday.
David, allegedly slew Goliath after all !
626 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:40:57
I really, really don't understand how we can have had no transfer plans in place and done all the leg work with the clubs and players ready for the January window. Where are our scouts? What are they actually doing on a day to day basis. They should be scouting leagues around the world, second divisions even. It is diabolical that we have found ourselves in this position.
Sack the board, sack the director of football who as far as I can tell has only used his influence to sign a reserve left back, sack the scouts (if we have any). Rip it up and start again.
How can we ever show ambition and drive to get to the top when our employment record shows we enjoy filling our academy with former midtable players and failures.
Ridiculous. So angry.
627 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:44:08
628 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:44:33
There was never a £45m bid for Gallagher. This was all paper bullshit. This was a smokescreen, probably fed to the press from the same person who made up the threat against the board.
As a club, we have an amazing fan base, loyal, hard working people who love their club. But the owner and the board are using the club as a laundry service. This is barefaced criminal!!!
It stinks of Usmanov, and it should be investigated by the relevant authorities.
Whatever happens, we will get relegated, have sanctions imposed on us, and the drop to league one if we are lucky is just about to happen.
I really can't see anything else happening. But one thing that won't change, is our loyalty and love the for this huge community that is part of our lives. Owners come and go, but we are Everton!!!!
God bless our club!!
We deserve so much more!!
Love to all Evertonians near and far!!!
Nil Satis, Nisi Optimum
629 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:49:10
On the one hand do we want unknown players with questionable performance histories from far less competitive leagues, simply buying for the sake of it, or do we hold back and only invest in those who'll make a genuine difference?
I always thought Lampard set the team up to be withdrawn and very indirect, far too passive with the team always looking sideways and backwards. It's the main reason why I wanted him replaced after the Forest game.
Not even Haaland will score goals with those tactics.
Taking a punt on Gallagher was, for me, typical Bill bollocks. He was attempting to say 'see we are trying'. Bullshit... if they were serious the interest would have been in Loftus - Cheek, a far more realistic target, a midfielder who can play wide on the right or in midfield.
I don't do conspiracy theories, there's nothing sinister, no hidden agenda. Just a bunch of numpties in the boardroom who haven't got the first clue on running a Premier League football club.
Kenwright is strictly League 2 calibre, he'd bask in the BBC David v Goliath 3rd round FA Cup tie coverage, analyse his soundbites as he runs his little club shelling out the odd couple of hundred K on 35 year olds who were famous way back for while.
630 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:50:23
What struck me was the mentality which these lads took into every game. They'd be getting twatted 4/5-0 at HT - Usually by some posh team from over the water who didnt even have to "borrow" their goalposts. Yet they would come out for the second half miraculously filled with a new found resolve. an illogical emotion brought on simply because somebody shouted "Right lads. We go again"
You'll all be here, or at GP for the Arsenal game - Yes even the ones who have officially resigned as Evertonians.
Your stomach will do cartwheels every time Arsenal get into our half (just the ninety minutes then) You'll kick every ball, you'll shout yourself horse and you'll be as knackered as the players come the final whistle.
We invest so much of ourselves in this club and we get less than nothing back... I don't know why the fuck we do it, but seemingly... Thats the deal.
Yeah Everton football club is four/five nil down at HT against posh fuckers who can affort their own goalposts, But come the Arsenal game, we'll all hear that voice whispering in our ear...and we'll go again
631 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:53:31
632 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:54:19
Yes that's what I was getting at mate, a bullshit story to make it look like the club were trying to reinvest the money, which we all know was never going to happen.
633 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:57:13
We have been crying out for goals and goal threat for years, and whatever little we had has been released or sold.
To not use the 2 remaining loans, sell your 2 best players from last year, during a season that contained a 6 week break is frankly gross incompetence.
You reap what you sow Moshiri, and you'll get nothing for this club. That's on you and the weaklings you surrounded yourself with.
634 Posted 01/02/2023 at 07:59:51
This is Kenwright ls slow death of Everton over many years. How can this narcissistic man show his face again. I stopped going to Goodison after the pandemic because of him. I just want him gone. Everton will cease under his watch.
Oh and another thing, anyone with fond memories of Greame Sharp, you have been let down, big time!
635 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:04:51
The lads who approached players cars, or remonstrated verbally with players, are being slated by some as the reason why players won't sign for us. That's nonesense. Players don't want to come to Everton, because we are a club in freefall. Its as simple as that. Although, I personally don't condone certain fans actions, I can sympathise with their spur of the moment frustrations.
I vividly remember when Harry Catterick was manger and he was allegedly jostled and kicked to the ground by a group of fans, for daring to drop Alex Young in favour of a young unknown 16 year old Joe Royle. The press had a field day at the time, but Catterick simply maintained his dignity and got on with his job of managing EFC.
Our press office put out fictitious stories of Baxendale's headlock, totally unproven, yet nobody within the club had the decency to come out and say that the incident was without substance. That was left to the Police to issue that statement. How pathetic can you get?
I'm not a conspiracy theorist as a rule, but I'm inclined to agree with some people's fears on here, that there are darker and more sinister financial elements at work within our club. The consequences of which could prove irretrievably devastating.
Let's get right behind Sean Dyche. He's our man now. Whoever he selects to pull on the Royal Blue, let's get right behind them. Each and every one of them, regardless of indifferent past performances. We are Evertonians. That is our duty,
Into battle once more we go! COYB.
636 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:06:51
Not this time.
The way we lost out with other clubs on players suggests to me that we were outbid on wages. The desperate last hours of daft offers suggest blind panic.
All told, this window shows the self-inflicted lack of finance and planning.
Time to stick with the manager and players. Time to hope Sean finds the nous and goals that lurk in this squad somewhere.
When we're safe/down is the time to go after this owner and board relentlessly.
637 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:10:05
Good shout ðŸ™
638 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:10:32
639 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:12:15
What my point is there are all of a sudden a lot of very similar posts so over Facebook fom so called "top contributers". Every single post the same theme I hope the fans are happy protesting caused this. We can't sign any players because the fans have scared them off. When you look at their posting history they always appear to back the board.
There is a definite deliberate attempt to shift the blame to the fans like headlock gate etc. The club will try and spin this to blame us.
Bobby Danny I agree buying for the sake of buying is pointless, however to not even get a couple of loans in is ridiculous. We probably are skint as a club. I also think my tin hat conspiracy theory might have legs. Why waste money on players if they are going to sell up? Why sell Gordon and bank the money, because we have not turned a profit for first time in years.
I think the club has looked at this and thought they have enough to stay up now Dyche is here so no new players. They may be right I still think we can stay up, the point is that's one very risky roll of the dice.
640 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:12:50
"Andy 616. Whether you like it or not some players will be put off by videos of players being chased and abused in cars. Fact."
No Ian, not fact but your personal opinion. Unless of course you have been on the phone to the players' agents over the last 24 hours.
641 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:13:20
“ I'm glad we didn't buy any players in this window and shelled out millions on shite players who will drain this clubs resources.â€
After all, we've got enough of our own and the toilet is overflowing with it… from top to bottom… but it's not just any shite… it's our shite!
642 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:15:50
643 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:16:45
644 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:17:34
Unfortunately the majority of the fanbase couldn't quite fathom why some die-hard Evertonians were trying to make their great leader and saviour look like a conman and baulked at their endeavour.
Well, whoever you were (and are), I hope you're happy because he's strangled the life out of the club as we all knew he would in the end. Jobs will be lost, hearts will be broken yet Kenwright and his mates have made a fortune standing on the backs of Evertonians goodwill.
RIP Everton Football Club,
1878-2023
Murdered by William Kenwright
https://twitter.com/ThePeoplesGroup/status/1620682839577739264?s=20&t=kE8jqbYH1Z6p_VN3rY8taw
645 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:17:51
Those of you who want Dele and other loan players recalled, I'm afraid that it's just not possible once the transfer window has shut. Only free agents can be signed now.
Terrible mismanagement.
646 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:21:02
647 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:24:50
648 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:25:45
We once had the Holy Trinity but we now have the Three Stooges
I'll get behind Dyche and support the team. With us and with our full support the team might just survive this shit they have put us in
649 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:26:50
The signings of Jelavic, Pienaar, Donovan, Gibson or before it the likes of Brian McBride ect ect.
Even the likes of Aaron Lennon on loan back in 2015 when in Leighton Baines own words "shamed others into hard work".
Now we have a crop of players that have fallen flat, and frankly have no inspiration on that pitch to get us out of it.
Dyche will soon know what he's in for with this crop of players, he'll realise that he was spoiled when at Burnley.
650 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:31:44
Dyche has been thrown under the bus, feel for him. There's something toxic going on behind the scenes with the board. They probably won't even turn up Saturday lunchtime, windy fuckers. They'd be right at home in the away end.
651 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:34:32
652 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:35:24
The players we signed last Summer were either on Loan, or paid for on the never never.
We escaped relegation with a game to spare last season. Our goals for, have been pathetic for years. This season is no better, probably worse so far. I think that Thelwell and Lampard had a lot of positions to improve with very little scope to pick up major improvements.
There were decent players out there this window and not to pick up one is ominous. I don't think Thelwell had the funds to go for any one of them.
It has to be Financial irresponsibility that has caused the plight we're in.
As Paul (616) as pointed out, there is nothing we can do to turn back the clock.
We can do what we do best, and that is support the playing staff (including the youngsters!!) and the manager. Nothing should divert us from that.
We have 18 games or so, to save ourselves from relegation.we have goalscorers, and we need to begin playing as a team who can provide them with chances to score. I think we have the best manager to get the team to do just that.
I think he will give Dobbin, Ellis and Cannon, if he'll bring the ones on loan back, (and Maupay) the chances to prove themselves. Gray and Townsend have scored good goals since they've come. They need to score more. But so do the team as a whole. If we can do it, we will escape relegation.
After that, then the Board, and the owner need to be held to account. This club deserves better than them much better!
653 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:35:54
Maybe Dyche will keep us up but we are second favourites for relegation and rightly so. Whatever happens the board will surely never be forgiven for their actions this season and something will have to give there. Again I'm not sure why Moshiri keeps on standing up for them?
If we are relegated then would that increase the likelihood of new buyers sniffing a bargain? Presumably Mosh would have to significantly lower the asking price. It seems like he's checked out.
What a quite extraordinary thing to have managed to turn the long awaited injection of spending power, transfer funds and opportunity into an inexorable slide towards relegation and possibly worse.
654 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:37:00
We still have more than enough to survive in my view so lets not talk ourselves into a relegation scenario.
655 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:40:49
Not sure how Thelwell got the job or how he is keeping his job.
Surely we could of at least got a couple of loan signings in just to take pressure off the forwards.
If there is no money they need to be up front about it.
Time for Thelwell to hand in his notice and admit the job is too big for him.
656 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:49:01
Thirty years ago I was in one of those teams getting killed every Sunday morning. Didn't matter. What's the point of playing if you don't give everything. That's what Dyche, the players and us fans need to do now.
We've all rightly had a go at the criminals who run our club. Now it's time to bin the protests and do our utmost to keep our club up. Then we can hopefully see the back of Moshiri et al.
657 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:52:24
Has this squad got the ability and the mental strength to get is out of this hole?
Well the one massive plus is that we've got a manager like Dyche in charge. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but in the circumstances can you think of anyone better?
We've got to get right behind the team, with no booing or you're not fit to wear the shirt chants, even if we get pasted in the next few games.
We can't control the antics of a couple of knobheads, but we can make sure that the other 30-odd thousand of us at every game at Goodison make the place a bear pit. Get behind the team, get behind the manager. The rest is out of our control.
658 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:54:47
659 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:56:12
660 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:57:33
If the more excitable here would just take a deep breath they might realise that the world is not at an end, we will not be relegated and there are no demons lurking in the boardroom, just some very naughty boys (and girl).. As Julian of Norwich said- all shall be well, all shall be well and all manner of things shall be well. (And no Julian of Norwich was not someone else we failed to sign before the deadline)
661 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:58:00
662 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:58:38
663 Posted 01/02/2023 at 08:59:49
The owner will lose value if we are relegated and many people at the club will lose their jobs. There is no way that Bill Kenwright and the board, or any of the staff want relegation.
What we have witnessed is gross mismanagement. The owner is distant and has left most decisions to the Board but he just can't stop himself from poking his nose in and causing problems.
I presume that there has been a fall-out between Moshiri and Kenwright. They probably have to muddle along together for legal reasons and they probably have so much dirt on each other that they have to soldier-on until Moshiri can sell-up.
The result is a club that has been completely mismanaged. The Benitez appointment is a good example. Only Moshiri could have thought it was a good idea.
Then the very short shortlist when Benitez went.
Even then we could not attract a decent manager.
Rectuitment has been equally awful with only Onana, Garner, Tarkowski and the Coady loan looking decent but the Maupay, Gueye and Mc Neil moves looking poor.
To think that we wasted good cash on Maupay and Mc Neil is even more galling now.
The bad decisions and delay continued with them missing the chance to sack Lampard during the World Cup. There was the perfect time for change -even Bielsa could have had time to train the team in his methods.
Now it is becoming clear that the financial mismanagement is the biggest factor in our demise.
The owner is allegedly, an accountant but the sale of Richarlison, the subsequent sale of Gordon and the delay in sacking the Lampard circus smacks of financial problems.
We must still be close to the limit on the P&S rules.
We are now reaping what we sowed.
The Chairman and his cowboys and girl can try to deflect the blame for players being reluctant to join the fun, on us fans but it is clear that we could not offer wages of the size needed to tempt the mercenaries.
Nor could we offer enough cash up front.
There is some hope. January window purchases can often fall flat and the new manager and staff know exactly what we need.
The likes of Garner and Townsend shold be match fit soon, and all the palyers have a blank slate with Dyche. Perhaps he can get more out of Mc Neil and maybe Maupay too.
Domenic has been getting fitter and the visit of the league leaders will have everyone at it.
We need to back the team and Dyche to the hilt. Fuck the board, fuck Moshiri come on the Toffees!
664 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:02:30
Yesterday was an embarrassing culmination of a pathetic period since the Bournemouth games when the writing was on the wall. Before the world cup everyone could see what was needed - a change of manager and some additional firepower. The board have had ample time to sort this mess out, and we could've been at least 6 points better off now and strengthened in the positions that mattered. Instead the Board have played stubborn buggers and driven us further into the mire. To see us scrambling around in the last few hours of a whole month of opportunity to sign players most of us haven't even heard of just to at least get someone, anyone, in was beyond a joke and highly embarrassing and was, I hope, the death knell for the board. There's no way back for them and their continued sulking silence is just festering the wound. Personally I think (hope) that Dyche will make changes to the mindset and the system and "eek" (sp) the points we need. Maybe we'll see 4-4-2? Hopefully, Townsend, Patterson and Garner will be back soon and Simms will prove to be the back up we need for the inevitable DCL injury - probably in the warm up v Arsenal just to finish what's left of our nerves. UTFT and Sack The Fucking Board.
665 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:06:22
Anyway, to your point, I can't get a ticket for life or money for Arsenal, but I will be there fighting in spirit. I'll probably be sat around many so called Arsenal fans who know virtually nothing about football. I'm used to that in west London. Don't talk to me about alleged Chelsea supporters and the life long Liverpool and Manchester United "supporters" I have to endure down here. I can tell them more about their clubs than they know.
I will comment as much as anyone on the problems with our club and I care passionately about our plight and deeply about Everton beyond anything I can explain, But come match day, they have me hook line and sinker. I just want 3 points.
Sorrry for the rant Darren. You kicked me off!!
666 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:10:16
I watched him when he came on at 70mins this week against West Ham. He was hit and miss, but what struck me is how confident and positive the lad was.
He was a live wire, constantly wanting the ball and determined to attack the West Ham defence. I'm not saying he's going to be the silver bullet, far from it, but he would be a definite plus to be used from the bench. Offering a bit of pace and directness that tiring defenders hate. He's looking to me like a young player with some upside given the right advice and chances to play.
With our abysmal failure in the transfer window this has to be considered today.
667 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:11:15
668 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:12:25
Get behind the team all you like but it's a futile gesture. Most of these fucks don't deserve to wear the shirt. We should be focussing 1000% on getting rid of the board and forcing Moshiri to act so that when we do drop we can regroup properly, IF there is a club still left. This set up won't survive in the Championship.
669 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:16:51
MOVE ON.
Little point in whinging as we all know the state of the club and that's not going to improve all the time present incumbent are there and they are not going anywhere no matter what we say ( but happy to be proved wrong).
Let's start with doing Arsenal on Saturday!
We need a minimum of 23 points. Dyche can galvanise and get the best out of this squad. He can? It shouldn't be pretty but I don't care. Just do it.!
670 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:17:02
Pity about Connor Gallagher, though - would have taken him all day.
671 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:19:57
672 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:21:37
673 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:24:20
674 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:27:10
What am I talking about? He'd fit right in at Everton!
675 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:27:24
The club won't admit it, but we are in a mess with the P&L rules and have stretched them to the limit, indeed lots of journalists believe we've already breached them. 96% of turnover spent on wages is not sustainable. The situation is entirely down to the mismanagement of Moshiri, Kenwright and board over the last few years in wasting a fortune in transfer fees, wages and paying off sacked managers and DoFs. We've blown our windfall and now we have to go back scrimping and saving to try to get the P&L under control like we did for years under Moyes. Dyche is not stupid and will have known the score when he signed up. We have just got to hope that he can keep the team up and go on to stabilise us like Moyes did when he took over. Relegation would be a disaster for the club in terms of lost revenue. The FL P&S rules are also far fighter than the PL so we could be facing a points deduction if we are relegated meaning there would be no quick return. It's all on Dyche now.
676 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:27:39
i do agree this is not over and we are not relegated yet.
As for the rest. Do you really need a list of what Kenwright has done to this club?
Let's start with King's Dock the lies that led to us losing it
The Kirkby fiasco the lies that he used to try and force the move. Funny how Goodison still passes its safety certificate.
I could go on and on. The only constant in the 30 year demise of this club is him.
He found Moshiri the only owner who suited what he wanted namely to stay in control. He was not the best owner for Everton he was the best owner for Kenwright.
The club for years had tried to demonise fans. He uses his friends and contacts in the media to create the illusion he's the greatest ever blue. He's not he's a narcissistic parasite that gaslights idiot fans and the sole reason we are where we are now.
The fans definitely need to be united we will come together like last time for the club, we will no doubt save us. However the current owner and board must be run out of this club. They are destroying it.
If we go down this will be the end of Everton. They will be making Milk Borad adverts about us Everton who are they... exactly
Relegation means a fire sale. We then need to try and get promotion back with none of our best players. If we don't our loses will be higher than allowed a points deduction will follow. There is a very good chance we could down again.
Administration is a very serious threat again a further points deduction.
This is all on the owners and current board the complete mismanagement of the club.
Our only hope is we survive, is this possible? - definitely, has this been made harder by the board? - definitely. Do we need fans calling each other out and believing the club lies and planted stories? - no.
677 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:29:37
There does not seemed to have been a plan regarding the Transfering in of players.Of course they where looking for last minute loan bargains and did give lip service to bidding for players in demand they really did not want.
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678 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:30:18
One of the most considered posts I have seen on here for years!
Yes we have got people running the club who could certainly be improved on, but the level of vitriol is crazy. I agree with him that the squad is good enough to survive if coached properly, which I'm confident Dyche will bring to the table. We will not become world beaters anytime soon, but realistically how many clubs are?
We will have a new stadium soon (which by the way no one else has been able to deliver before the current owner) which will almost certainly mean the club is sold, probably to some other dodgy billionaire or country with dubious backgrounds.
At which point, if we do not win the league, lots of other trophies, attract the world's best manager and top top world class players, the new owners will also be ‘shite'…
How about supporting the club we all profess to love, through thick and thin, and give the players the belief to put in stronger performances and get us further up the table!!
679 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:30:20
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-308410/Gerrards-U-turn-threats-family.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1322748/Wayne-Rooney-death-threat-Angry-fans-outside-home.html
680 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:31:20
681 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:32:06
The other side of the coin too, most players are greedy bastards these days, and if a new man joins on a much better deal/salary it can, and does cause derision. Remember we are not defeated until it has become an impossibility, and everything is possible.
We are Everton!
682 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:34:06
To pass through another transfer window and not address that is just plain incomprehensible but clearly points to the utter mismanagement in the corridors of power at our once great club. Some think it is a deliberate act by the board but to say that is to assume they are strategic, can formulate a plan & execute it. That I am afraid is well beyond them as they have proven time & time again.
There is nothing we blues can do about the past right now, we have to move on & focus all our energies on supporting Sean Dyche & the team. It is still possible to avoid relegation, its going to be a bumpy ride but we MUST get behind & support this team with every ounce of energy we have.
683 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:34:20
No shock now.
The mist clears.
Kenwright would only sell to someone who gave him all his money whilst retaining all his power (ie all the vital organs fed by the heartbeat of the club)
Enter Mr Moshiri.
Articles state owner cannot sack the board.
Kenwright has placed puppets around him.
Now Kenwright will never leave, sealed into the Everton sarcophagus.
Kenwright receives huge cash injection.
Kenwright goes about squandering dime after dime.
Kenwright states he doesn't trust Moshiri with the club.
Moshiri powerless to act in reality and admits so.
Moshiri's realising of a new stadium is now his The Sword of Damocles.
The showman has worked his magic.
Draw Curtains
684 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:34:34
The owner has backed the club with his money, his mistake is listening to the wrong people. We all know the Board is a joke but that's a long term problem. Lampard in a year has done huge damage, walked away with millions and is still popular!
685 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:34:58
Similarly the suggestion that the threat of relegation deterred players doesn't stack up either. Apart from us, every Premier League team from 13th downward recruited at least 3 players in the window and the players joining know that 3 of those teams will be relegated.
A more plausible scenario is that we went for one player (the winger who decided to switch to the bench at Spurs after Frank was given his P45) and that was it. Chelsea report no bids (from anyone) for Connor Gallagher, while most of the player links that popped up yesterday looked like lazy media or agent creations.
The money from the sales of Gordon, Broadhead and Anderson – having been received before 30 June – will be used to improve the accounts. Expect to see us repeat the trick with the sale of Pickford during the summer.
Had Bielsa been appointed our manager, he would probably have resigned this morning.
686 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:39:19
I've read 660 twice, and all I can do is concur with your observations.
Moving on, and that's what we must do, what's done is done, reducing us further as a laughing stock in the eyes of other clubs fans/supporters.
We are currently and have been heading on a downward spiral, whereby (and we will) we avoid relegation by the skin of our teeth.
One question I would like answering is; ‘why did it it take so long announcing the appointment of Sean Dyche? No doubt there is a gagging clause in his contract.
Let's get behind the team and the manager. 18 games to go, 54 points to play for, sounds better already, albeit a sticking plaster over a gaping wound COYB
687 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:39:20
It's sycophants like you that are part of the reason we are in this mess. You've got the Everton you deserve.
I take offence when the owners labeled me and my 11 year old match going son hooligan and toxic with this "club source" leaks to the media.
We go the game we support the team. All Everton fans want the same to support the team we love and see us successful. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where the issues lie.
I will be there at the match on Saturday supporting the team, I'll also be at the protests supporting the club and trying to cure the disease at the top that is killing it.
If you want to bury your head fine, don't start crying when we are the next Accrington Stanley.
688 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:40:02
It brought back my memories of playing for a pub team (The Derby, Everton Valley) as a 20 something. We played in the Kirkby Newtown League, on a, very aptly, named Windy Harbour ground. The pitch was built on top of a rubbish dump and when it rained (it always rained!) oil used to work it's way to the surface.
We got beat every Sunday, got changed in a concrete building and it always seemed to be freezing, we got covered in oily gunge if we slid on the stuff, but we went the pub after it and talked about how we'd win next week. We never did, until one game. I scored, me mate scored and we won our only match in all the time we played there!
Thwe pub afterwards was the consolation though, selling spot theball tickets to help pay for the kits and getting them washed. We kept going, though, for years. Never learned any sense!,
I've been going to The ground since the late Fifties, when I was about 10 and luck enough to see the great sides of the Sixties and the Eighties, been to Wembley, think it was six times and see us win the Cup twice and League 4 times. Really lucky.
For nearly thirty years since this con man has become Chairman, we've seen us tread water, then start the slide to where we are now. He lost us the chance of playing at the Kings Dock, try to take us out the City and now presiding over our demise, as though it isn't happening.
My view is that our players and our manager are all that matters now. Where we end up in May, who knows, but the Board are finished as far as I'm concerned. I don't give a toss whether they turn up or not (though I think they might well stay away) We have the media, hovering like vultures, looking for the evidence of us Toxic Fans. Well they can sod off an all. It's our club at stake here, we support our team.
689 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:42:19
690 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:43:27
Moshiri talking about an existential threat sounds off the alarm bells , agents wanting cast iron guarantees of payment of long contracts despite relegation. All of which we wouldn't do.
I think the claims of the board trying to blindside the fans with phantom 45m bids for players are right, it was a total smokescreen.
In our situation it was only short term four month loans that were acceptable to us or we were ever interested in.
691 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:44:47
692 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:48:31
And if the answer is 'our istory' that just shows what a joke we are. Winning league titles before the advent of colour television doesn't mean a damn thing to anyone other than Evertonians.
693 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:50:25
694 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:51:01
Brain-droppings...
If I was Dyche today, left with a bunch of players who, to all intents and purposes have proved they don't have the mental/physical toughness for the task ahead, I'd be sitting with the coaches/managers of our under 23s/21s/18s etc and asking. "who do you have who has no fear?"
I'd want to find 4/5 players from within the club who could be fast-tracked.
They wouldn't have to be the 'best' players, just those who despise (DESPISE!) losing.
A kind of 'pups of war' group (?)
The kind who'd run through their own grandmother to win a ball and maybe have a bit of a physical presence.
I'm not suggesting putting 4/5 young players into the side but rather bringing them into the group.
The next 18 games imo are going to require a certain amount of gambling and he'll need to try to repair the psychological damage results have had on the current mob
Just avoiding relegation will feel no different than going down by 20 points, so now is the time to go fo it'.
We need EVERY player to play for EVERY second of EVERY game.
We need to see players fight for EVERY second ball.
We need to press teams like they press us.
Physically we need to go shoulder-to-shoulder with opposition players and make sure it is them who come off second best.
We need players to stop being mutes - open their fucking mouths, scream at each other, scream at the refs, linesmen/women.
One of our players goes down in the box?
Everyone get in the ref's face.
And maybe most importantly, we're going to require players who say "give ME the ball, I'm NOT scared of making a mistake" (nb: all that pointless tip-tapping over the past few months, that's players basically saying 'don't give me the fucking ball, I don't want it')
I also think having 2 or even 3 up front will be just as effective a defence as anything else (ie: 7 at the back or...whatever).
If Dyche has a big pair of plums, now's the time to wave them about.
As Kenny Rogers said "You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em" (to be clear, Kenny was talking about cards not testicles).
695 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:53:57
We are far worse off than this time last season. We are without the Brazilian number nine AND the "Dirty cowardly rat" who fought so hard to stay in the division last season, he was unanimously voted player of the year by his team mates - You know. The ones who were on the pitch with him.
Our board were clearly in talks with Newcastle. They clearly didnt want their 40m asset injured and they completed the hat-trick of snide moves by not spending a penny on the windfall.
But they will get away with it..Especially if there`s a kid to blame
696 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:54:55
Newcastle have spent £250m in transfers in 2 years, struck lucky with a manager no one would take a gamble on, even us and it's paid dividends - Wembley and top 4 in the league. And I have no doubt they'll go on to be equal of City, Liverpool etc.
We've blown it for many years yet.
697 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:56:00
698 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:57:47
I did say the other day I hope with a new manager and hopefully a couple of new players that the lads organising the protest should maybe call it off, but in all honesty there is no argument I can put forward that could do anything but back the protest. I would just say look we al agree this owner and board have to go, and so far the press and TV are agreeing with those arguments. But lets make sure that the protests don't cross the line and don't let the narrative to change to no wonder they cant get players to come because of the behaviour of some fans. Dont go near players after the game, don't go on the pitch.
Somebody reminded me that when Villa went down they didn't buy anybody in the window and lost the next 13 out of 15 and got relegated.
I cant help feel a bit of sympathy for Dyche non of this was his making yet somehow he is expected to turn around a team that don't score and have won only 3 league games this season. I worry that the frustration and anger the fans are feeling could well turn ugly should Arsenal win this easily as form would suggest.
Finally we have to point the finger at Lampard and his coaches, they have twice managed to put this club perilously close to being relegated. I have nothing but contempt for him and his coaches, yes this board and owner are the worst. But you were given enough funds for us not to be anywhere near relegation.
699 Posted 01/02/2023 at 09:59:51
700 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:02:10
Ian E@442, says the club is actually stronger because we have replaced Lampard, with a new manager, but I don't think he's factored in the most important thing, about the fans, who will be absolutely fuming with this lying, self serving, totally inept board.
My own opinion is the people on the board should now become an irrelevance until the club is sold, but unless they come out with some kind of statement to either acknowledge this, and tell us they are going to stay away from the game, they should just resign, for the good of the club, they profess to love.
I've stated it many times before, because even though people don't like to admit they have been completely taken in by a liar, the way the club has dealt with Anthony Gordon, has parallels with both Jeffers and Rooney, and has the smell of an egotistical nepotistic lying bastard all over it.
701 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:02:33
Now he can add second rate chairman of a second rate football club/ team to his second rate credentials.
702 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:03:09
Not sure you read the post fully! I agreed the people running the club need changing. I also did not, and would not, accuse people criticising the board of not being dedicated supporters who want the best for Everton Football Club. What I did say is we need to all give the players belief that they can turn this around this season.
Until the stadium is complete there is little or no chance of Moshiri selling as he will not get as good a price - this is just economic sense. I don't like or trust the guy and want him out, just like I wanted Johnson out when he was making pigs ear of it. I also want BK out, or at least in no position of power/authority. I am no sycophant and have certainly not buried my head in the sand. Things need to change but we just don't agree and when that is realistically going to happen. Enjoy the game on Saturday I'm sure I will (well here's hoping anyway!!).
703 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:04:30
Glad you clarified the Kenny Rogers situation, I was almost wincing at the very thought of him folding them !
704 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:06:39
705 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:08:14
2 million loan fee proposed and a commitment to buy him for 30 million if we stay in the premiership. I am guessing that was the basis of all offers we made in the transfer window and why we signed nobody. The 40 million from Gordon's transfer was to return us to profit, not to finance player deals.
Richarlison and Gordon got 14 goals and 7 assists between them last season. They were also our main saleable assets so they have gone and won't be replaced. We have no money and won't have in the future unless minority investors get on board.
However, I don't buy that our board were in early talks with Newcastle. If they had been negotiating early, Newcastle and Gordon's own agent would have told him to carry on attending training and sit tight. We were bound to sell at the right price.
More likely the board worked the same angle as they did on Rooney all those years ago. Privately agree to sell the player at the right price, act like they are desperate to retain him in public.
The player was badly advised by his agent, as Everton's board are grim shysters but they are not that sharp. Gordon could have attended training, pleaded his loyalty to Everton and still got his move.
706 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:08:32
At the start of the season, we were all full of optimism, we even had a few good results. So theoretically we have the players; they are in rubbish form now, but they don't lose form without a reason, and I think that reason was basically Lampard. Dyche is much more canny and is surely the right person to get the best out of the squad.
We need to try to look on the bright side - what else can we do?
707 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:12:40
Sorry John, whilst Lampard was tactically poor, the main reason we are in this mess has been the way the club has been run for a long, long time now.
Its resulted in a poor group of players, poor managers but atrocious decision making from the owner and the board.
Are fans expected to just sit and idly watch as our club goes down the pan? Do you really believe this site and other like it are to blame? How about the punditry on tv, Sky, Talksport, the laughter when Everton is mentioned? Of course we are angry, some more than others, but I have invested part of my life in this club, to see it ruined by a few incompetent people is ruining my life and thousands of others. If it doesn't make you feel that way, thats ok, you are lucky..
I feel shamed by this club, I will back Dyche and my team until the end and beyond, but as I have said often for the last god knows how many years, I do not support or believe in anything Kenwright says and never have and I am sick of explaining why.
Exactly what can fans do in your opinion other than get behind the manager and team? Forget the board, the owner? I would LOVE too, but their incompetence has affected which players we have. team performance, recruitment and management. The result is we are sitting at the bottom of the league. Thats been coming for years...
Dyche will get us out of this mess I have no doubt, even without more players. But we have gone in 18 months from a World class serial winner in Ancelotti to Dyche with nightmares in between..Don't even mention Benitez,,
No John, I absolutely agree, get right behind the team, but don't let the board and owner off the hook.
708 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:15:54
Is there a shady motive here? Has the owner just pocketed the cash pending a sale? Unlikely as relegation will devalue the club by more than that. Is it needed for the stadium build, at least in the short term while he gets his backers sorted out? Did players turn us down because of conditions in the contracts on offer which would reduce wages in the event of relegation? Possibly, but it didn't stop Southampton did it?
Maybe word will leak out at some point but to coin that modern phrase, we are where we are and have to get on with it. Like many posters above I think we have a decent enough squad. We should never have got to this point but we have done because we have lacked a striker but more importantly we have lacked a structure which has suited the players. Midfield has been a shambles- creativity is poor, workrate hasn't been great, not a lot of determination, huge gaps left in the middle of our defensive midfield which so many teams have exploited and the much vaunted partnership of Cody and Tarks has floundered.
Franks use/ refusal to use substitutes was so strange especially when he must have known his job was on the line. His reluctance to give youth a chance at least off the bench was plain daft and why send Cannon out on loan when he could have been on the bench and perhaps able to pop a goal or two( this was post Frank of course).
So what will Sean do? Hopefully he won't quit in horror at what didn't happen last night. He has some good players- Onana has shown good form lately and expressed his desire to stay and help. A fit Garner should play alongside him, possibly with a newly motivated Doucoure if Sean can get hold of him and sort him out. Likewise can Sean get something out of McNeil- a player with decent skill but no pace and at present who lacks aggression. DCL is so crucial- he is looking a bit sharper but Sean will get stuck into him.
If Townsend comes back fit then he will help us. I'd consider moving Ben to left back which is where he shone when he joined us, and Holgate to right back to give the defence a bit of pace and aggression- I think Thise two will respond well to the new manager.
I have my ticket for Saturday and with the early kick off my journey starts at around 4am. There will be 55 on the coach and no doubt loads of others who have longer or more difficult journeys to make. I expect to see an aggressive performance from a highly motivated and compact team and really see if we can shake up this fine Arsenal side. I want a coach on the way home where we can't decide on a man of the match because they all tried their hearts out, not an abandonment of the man of the match vote because no one was worthy ( that has happened a few times!!).
Of course what we can control is the noise and the atmosphere. We need to get back to last seasons crowd performance, give Sean a great welcome and regardless of the score get behind the team. We can do this together but the players need us more than ever before.
Sod the board- let's do this for the fans, and all those who are no longer with us- that's the least we all deserve.
709 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:16:31
Lampard then clearly demonstrated that he hasn't got a clue, poor team selection ( albeit with limited players), poor team tactics and poor game management. Yes he had to go.
Thelwell unfortunately in my eyes is now demonstrating that he too is way short of the skills required to do this job. His ridiculous 120 point plan to make Everton ‘s Academy, Recruitment, Medical functions truly top class, shows a man who is just overwhelmed by the leadership qualities he needs to take this club forward. The 120 point is a plan to impress the useless board that he's on top of his job.
Unfortunately he way off the mark, he can't plan and execute recruitment as we've just seen, he's kowtowing to Moshiri and Kemwright, he seems to a non entity as far as the rest of the football fraternity, a man who can't sell Everton even to mercenary footballers.
Just give Dyche the whole of the footballing side to run, he can't do as bad a job as Thelwell & Lampard
710 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:19:11
Sharp, will be nodding like Phil Neal, whilst Kenwright would be nudging Denise laughing, saying he still doesn't know I'm a red.
Minder is just starting on itv4. It's that bad, I've just had a mate from London, texting me to tell me I need cheering up, so put minder on!
711 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:27:23
Ian, you claimed as fact on the LF last night that Everton had always signed players on TDD. As your statement proved not to be true, could I ask that you this time provide evidence to support your use of 'fact' above?
712 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:29:19
Seany's here...!
713 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:29:34
Anyone who thinks we are out of the woods based on the removal of Frank Lampard is living in cloud cuckoo land, he had plenty of faults, but Sean Dyche is set to manage the same set of players, these players are the common denominator in the demise of this club, aided and abetted by the miscreants supposedly running the horror show.
We all celebrated avoiding relegation last season, such emotional scenes, but just let that sink in, we were nearly relegated!
God help us.
714 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:30:17
715 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:32:08
716 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:32:31
We watched last week as Moshiri answered pre prepared questions from a member of the FAB, why not let a sports journalist ask you questions or our chairman or our DOF. But no the manager who isn't responsible for any of this debacle will have to answer the questions that the press will put to him.
What a start to your role as Everton manager.
717 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:34:23
We now have a much better manager in my opinion, and although the squad isn't the greatest in terms of quality, I believe that Dyche will turn it around. Anybody that thinks Dyche is nothing more than a disciplinarian should watch some of his interviews on youtube.
718 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:34:37
719 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:40:01
Everton v Arsenal LOSE
Liverpool v Everton LOSE
Everton v Leeds United DRAW
Everton v Aston Villa DRAW
Nottingham Forest v Everton LOSE
Everton v Brentford LOSE
Chelsea v Everton LOSE
Everton v Tottenham Hotspur LOSE
Manchester United v Everton LOSE
Everton v Fulham WIN
Crystal Palace v Everton DRAW
Everton v Newcastle United LOSE
Leicester City v Everton DRAW
Brighton & Hove Albion V Everton LOSE
Everton v Manchester City LOSE
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Everton DRAW
Everton v AFC Bournemouth LOSE
720 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:42:59
721 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:46:23
This season no Richarlison, DCL missing too many games and Gordon wanting to be somewhere else but its all Lampards fault, great logic that.
Thats water under the bridge anyway.
You have to feel sorry for Dyche and us of course - obviously he has the consolation of a very large influx of cash every week- us poor sods have not. We are now 1/2 to go down, going smaller each week.
Its going to take large miracle for him to keep us up now, we were poor last season and this and we are weaker now.
I don't think the bigwigs will be turning up at the game this week now do you, theres bound to be fresh protests.
To have any chance of staying in the Prem. the team needs our support more than ever now, even though going to games feels more like serving a penance.
722 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:46:49
Probably won't be as bad as that but we won't stay up I agree.
I see 3 wins and 6 draws so that won't be enough to keep the club up.
30 points is my prediction and I think we'll finish 19th.
I just don't see enough goal threat in our team.
723 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:47:33
For those hoping Dyche is going to help the club avoid relegation, I admire your hope in the face of the grim reality. We would need the courage of Ives and Hiltz to even attempt to pull off a great escape, and sadly our players don't possess that bravery. PS Ives and Hiltz didn't escape
724 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:49:15
Bit disrespectful to Fulham.
725 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:52:14
726 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:55:56
727 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:59:24
728 Posted 01/02/2023 at 10:59:27
I think Moshiri has put the brakes on bigtime in order to make the club (financially) a more attractive one to buy.
What he seems unable to comprehend is that a championship club is a much less attractive prospect than a premier league club.
Yesterday's performance (transferwise) just CAN'T alone be down to a level of incompetence beyond belief.
If they'd have brought in three of the academy players to handle yesterday they'd have managed to get a deal over the line.
I think there's not only a disconnect between the supporters and the board I think there's one between Moshiri and the board as well.
Either way I firmly believe that we're well and truly fucked.
We won't get rid of this board until the club's sold and by then we'll be in the championship.
729 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:10:52
The only way we survive is the fans supporting the team. If all the infighting can remain on social media all protests away from match itself we might just do it again
730 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:11:00
"We were after certain players" — you do your homework, get them signed up, don't leave it to the last minute and lose out.
731 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:11:54
I think we will survive — as long as the board keeps away from Goodison Park and the fans do their bit.
732 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:17:00
My take is that we did try to sign players, but they wouldn't come. We've been blackballed. Every agent in the land is currently saying to their client "Don't go to Everton". And to be fair, a white knuckle relegation ride with a fanbase at war with the board – why would you sign up for that if there are other options around?
So, when Moshiri comes out and says 'we tried' I'm not going to instantly dismiss that, particularly if it's backed up by Thelwell and Dyche. It is total fucking incompetence like, but that's not as bad as deliberately holing the boat.
Getting back now to what's important (and that ain't the transfer window), I think we've got the squad to stay ahead of Southampton and a couple of others once Dyche's proper coaching bears fruit.
Clearly we are lacking goals, but we only need one to win a game, and I suspect our work from set-pieces is going to improve significantly, and that we are going to be very mean defensively. It might not be pretty… but probably pretty effective.
733 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:20:10
The Everton owner, Kenwright and his puppets have called time and last orders on the club. But fuck him and his puppets, we are having a “stay behind†that will last for the rest of this season and the future.
Get behind the team and the manager before and during the game. I'm not interested, now, in protesting against phoney bastards, just fuckin' blank and swerve people(?) like them, they can go and mix with other phoney bastards like themselves.
I'll be going to the rest of the home games cheering my team on. I know 99% of my fellow fans will be doing the same. Miracles happen, let's try and create one for The Blues.
734 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:24:46
The transfer did not just happen. There was days of negotiation. We were told by Leighton Baines that the player was excused for at least one of the days. It's no stretch to then think the club excused the others because they wanted him in one piece so the sale could go ahead.
I see a lot of people pointing the finger at the player, but I believe that's born out of a desire to think the worst of a him.
Other than Bainsey correcting a reporter by telling him he wasn't AWOL... I've seen no statement from the club, the coaches or the player. No evidence whatsoever.
I only see a sequence of events which suggests to me that club were absolutely compliant with his absence.
Kenwright will be happy for people to point the finger at an outbound young boy. He always has been.
735 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:25:09
Deadline day has gone and is now irrelevant. The battle starts here. It's not over yet.
736 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:26:23
When he was appointed I thought we'd get out of this. The lack of signings is a disgrace but we still have the quality to stay up.
The board should stay away not because of safety, but they will cause fan division. I remember during the Blue Union days the club deliberately put Bill's smiling face on the screen during a match. As you can imagine there were boos and claps and fan arguments and infighting.
If we are to survive, every home game needs to be like Palace last season.
Fans protesting before and after the game is fine as long as the players know they are supported.
I can however see the board intent on self-preservation trying to create fan unrest and infighting. If we fight each other, we forget about them. For this reason alone, they need to stay away and let us do our job after they failed to do theirs.
737 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:28:21
But we do have some good players and, if Dyche gets the team playing a better system and gets them organised and motivated, we do have a chance. Staying clear of injuries and having a bit of luck would be a huge help.
But the biggest worry for me is the justified bandwagon about our terrible board. We need to put our hatred for them on ice and leave all protests until the end of the season. It is not doing any of us any good.
We can talk about getting behind the team but what is going to happen if Arsenal go 2 or 3 up early on? Some supporters could lose their heads. And we do not want anyone running onto the pitch.
We must get behind the team and stay behind the team during the Arsenal game, whatever happens, and stay behind them for the remainder of the season.
Now is the time for cool heads, backing the team, and then unleash the biggest protest in history at the end of the season.
738 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:32:04
Just trying to find a positive to this whole debacle!!
This boardroom is being run by the lunatic asylum or by red shite wankers. After all this time, Bill was a red really. He is just poison!!! Along with his band of merry men!!!
739 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:32:24
The team need cheering, the atmosphere has to be a bear pit for the opposition.
The owner and board are nothing.
740 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:32:38
Apologies if I'm being pedantic, it's just the young players over 18 are men, not boys.
At the end of the day, we are all understandably pissed off. I'm concerned though that the Burnley team that was relegated last season had more talent and ability than the 2023 Everton squad.
741 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:47:10
I've seen a lot of peiple(sic) asking is FM asset stripping? No, we are de-leveraging, reducing costs whilst attempting to reduce borrowings or reserve cash for future costs (stadium for eg). Usually considered to be prudent but in this case very high risk if it results in relegation
One of the results of de-leveraging is that he has to raise less cash himself personally or from a third party (new) investor in the future. A very calculated risk though as relegation is a disaster for the club & Moshiri
I'll be honest I have no idea about accounting or finance, but it would seem that any squad building has been sacrificed for the completion of the new stadium?
From that perspective, I believe that Sean Dyche took the job in full knowledge of the circumstances he would be working under, and I would guess there will be no expensive signings made in the next couple of years or more, even if Dyche keeps us in the top division.
Moshiri has always been about the money. He gambled wildly on transfers, not necessarily to improve the team, but rather to try and attract investors. The gamble failed, and world events have conspired to exacerbate that failure to such an extent that he's now decided to gamble on the club remaining in the top tier and is hoping there is enough gas in the tank for the club to limp to the new stadium; unfortunately, the petrol gauge is flashing empty.
743 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:51:20
But let's not relegate ourselves. There's so many surrender-monkey comments here, for fuck's sake.
We have a decent squad. Not great, but okay. Many would have thought Lampard should have had us mid-table at least with this squad, so it can't be that bad.
We have a manager who knows how to scrap. He's done it enough times, he'll pick the players who are up for the scrap.
We have us. The best fans in the world. Now we will show we are the best by dragging our team over the line in every game. We can do something about it on matchday. We did it last season and we'll do it again.
Sorry, Premier League. The Toffees are here to stay.
UTFT
744 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:51:31
What is “the Kenshite narrative†and what is your honest counter to it?
I'm interested, not being arsey.
745 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:52:42
746 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:54:04
Almost like the club has given up already and won't even try to do all it can to avoid relegation. If we feel down about it, can you imagine the feeling in the dressing room? It can't be good for morale.
The failure to sign a decent striker and effective winger is now bordering on farcical. Everyone can see we needed more quality/ and numbers in some areas apart from those running the club it seems. The DoF role is a joke and a total waste of money.
I know it might be players turning us down to be fair, which you can't do a lot about, but there must have been at least one good player somewhere we could afford and who would come.
Shambles.
747 Posted 01/02/2023 at 11:55:43
Dyche basically has 18 experimental games. If we can see seeds of something positive, then most of us would be happy. Relegation is a bigger threat than last year so if we have to rebuild in the championship, then so be it.
748 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:01:56
On the plus side, chatting to a couple of friends who are Burnley fans, they are loving the championship and don't want to get promoted. Maybe we will enjoy it more down there.
749 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:03:04
The owner and chairman are the reason why we are in this position.
The atmosphere against Southampton was totally focused on the teams support, didn't help sadly did it.
The owner needs telling what we are all feeling.
750 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:03:47
Relegation with these fools in charge is a nightmare scenario for us.
KENWRIGHT OUT NOW!
752 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:11:00
I'd have had far more respect if he'd have spelled out the dire financial situation and managed our expectations by saying we had to cut costs in order to finance the stadium. I wouldn't have liked it but I'd have respected that position.
Yet again, it all comes down to there being no communication, whatsoever.
753 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:11:23
754 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:15:46
This exasperated the fans, and signing nobody in the transfer window has exasperated people even more.
Sit in the stadium at the end of every game, and even rejoice that these phoney's won't dare show their face's anymore, but I also think we should forget about them, because it's obvious they have never been interested in us.
I'd love to get hold of Dyche, I'm not sure he would let me anywhere near the place, to give his squad a straight from the heart speech, (that's his job) but blocks need to be built quickly between the players and the fans, because they are all we have right now, and we need them to fight for our shirt.
755 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:16:51
756 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:23:56
Townsend could be back shortly but we know DCL is injury prone and injuries to other forwards would be a real downer.
Are there any other young forwards that might step up should we need them.
757 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:26:34
758 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:28:41
I'm sure Everton DID try to sign some players but the terms they were offering were not attractive enough due to the constraints of P&L rules. A result of incompetent management by an inept Board over many, many years.
As an aside, I wonder when the Premier League auditors are going to start examining Nottingham Forest's books (27 players signed this season) or Chelsea's (𧻨m spent in the last two windows)? Not going to affect us, I know, but it intrigues me.
759 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:33:09
Lampard was hopeless in formation, selection, tactics and Subs.
The fan protests should have been solely aimed at Lampard after Bournemouth.
Going after the Board mid season served no useful purpose and anyone with sense would have seen that. The Board werent going to suddenly sell mid campaign
Going after Barrett Baxendale and Sharp when we were joint bottom with a Manager tactically stinking the gaff out was absolutely ridiculous.
The time for board protests was the end of last season or the end of this season.
The protests have just caused toxicity, affected player interaction ( cars) and in my view made us very unatttactive in the transfer window.
The Board are useless. But the protesting fanbase has made things worse.
That's my opinion. Many won't agree. No doubt the usual suspects will not address the issues or debate but just insult me. Or perhaps chase me in my car.
760 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:33:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJiGlgchv4E
761 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:34:39
762 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:34:55
Would be 4-4-1-1 / 4-2-3-1, both of which Dyche is comfortable with.
Pickford
Holgate - Tarkowski - Mina - Godfrey
Gray - Onana - Gana - McNeil
Iwobi
Calvert-Lewin
763 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:35:36
I am hoping Dyche is the type who would let you talk to the players, and is on it all.
Like you say all our hopes are on Dyche and the players performing a miracle.
It can be done and the supporters should back the team to the hilt and forget about the rotten board, for now,
Good on you Tony. COYB!
764 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:41:47
Even under pressure, the board are saying nothing, but they are also sitting still, and now that Lampard has been replaced by Dyche, surely these lying self preserving nepotistic conmen and woman, should do the decent thing and resign?
I'm certain that this would give almost everyone, a massive lift, and it would definitely help the supporters, to pull themselves off the floor, to try and help the team, because now Moshiri has given up, we have got nothing. Except ourselves.
765 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:46:18
Time to focus on the next game rather than what we can't change. Only things that matter are the players, the coaches and the fans. Training had better focus on organisation with every player's attitude being checked personally by Dyche. Only those who will run through walls are allowed.
I can see Simms getting a game alongside DCL and Maupay on the bench. Defence of Coleman, Tarkowski, Coady and Godfrey. Midfield has lots of options, but maybe Iwobi, Doucoure, Onana and McNeil? Aim to grind out a draw minimum, but maybe nick one via long ball or set piece. Remember Man City.
766 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:47:28
Hoping for a surprise or two. No point in trotting out the predictable failing 11. I think he will play Godfrey at left back. Possibly Mina for Coady. A youngster perhaps ? Price ? I am working on Saturday so cannot watch but my heart will be at Goodison hoping, just hoping, for a positive result.
767 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:48:20
768 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:51:59
Last night showed how much ambition the club has, zilch!
The two clowns at the top and the board will go down in history as causing the demise of our great club, to say nothing about the jobs throughout the club that will be cut if (when) we end up in the championship.
You're just like politicians, totally oblivious to the people you are meant to serve.
Shame on you, shame on you that have brought a great club to it's knees !
769 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:52:09
He owes the board nothing, especially if they are trying to spin the blame onto him by lying that he was missing training. Bill certainly has a long track record in this line of duplicity.
Unfortunately, he probably will just move on and look forward to his new challenge.
770 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:52:23
He's spent £600m and built a new ground and fans asked for his head, maybe he's reminding us how it used to be before he came along.
This isn't me supporting his decision, or past decisions, but if you poke the bear and all that.
771 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:53:34
Someone with pace in central defence would be a good start. That means Holgate or Godfrey to partner Keane or Tarkowski.
We're not staying up from here, but we have a chance to make it a respectable end to the season. It would be nice if we could cause an upset in what is likely to be our last derby for a few years!
772 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:54:18
773 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:56:41
774 Posted 01/02/2023 at 12:58:13
It might just wake the fcukers up and they realise they have to put in some hard work to avoid relegation.
775 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:00:24
776 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:01:01
778 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:01:49
779 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:04:10
The horse bolted years ago, and the legacy of decades of mismanagement is upon us now. The kopites or mancs would never have tolerated this for so long.
780 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:04:19
It's hardly "nonsense" My friend, it's cold hard fact.
Winning games is what every Evertonian wants, it's what any fan wants for their club.
But scraping by, escaping relegation by the skin of Our teeth and merely existing is surely not what rational Evertonians want for Everton Football Club.
I'm afraid John that it's exactly the "Ostritch & sand pit" scenario which your statement embodies that allows the ineptitude of our Board. And frankly, I'm long overtired being told what to do by thumb twiddling lickspittles who display precisely none of the fighting spirit that Sean Dyche will require, if he is to pull off a feat of biblical proportions this season.
781 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:06:36
782 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:15:32
But didn't lead to a TDD without signings for the first time, eh Ian?
783 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:17:06
21/22 42 goals Leeds United Pts 38
20/21 33 goals Burnley Pts 39
19/20 41 goals Villa Pts 35
18/19 35 goals Brighton Pts 36
17/18 37 goals Southampton Pts 36
As we all know, EFC have 15 goals, so far. So to reach the average goals required - 37 - to finish 17th over the past 5 seasons we would need to score another 22. Unless we do a Burnley ie 33, then another 18 would do it. The present squad has scored 11 Premiership goals between them, in 20 games.
We have 15 points so far. to reach the average points - 36 - achieved by the team finishing 17th over the past 5 seasons we would need another 21.
So 7 wins or 6 wins and 3 draws would do it. Lose 12 of our next 18 games then we are surely relegated.
Miracles do happen and I can only hope we are the benefactors once again but it's not looking good is it ?
784 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:17:19
https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2004/jul/17/newsstory.sport2
785 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:24:49
I agree with Ian Edwards, Lampard is massively culpable and our fan's ignoring his shocking tenure whilst focusing on the Board has created a negative spiral at just the wrong time.
The Board issue has to get sorted but it's likely to be at the end of the season but our energy has to be completely on supporting the manager and team.
786 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:28:45
787 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:29:16
It will, however have to be done at grass roots level - the fans, the players and our manager, without any interference from the top brass. Everton really is looking like the sporting equivalent of Blackadder so we just need to keep Lord Percy, General Melchett, Captain Darling and Nursie away somehow.
I have had a gut feeling since Wolves that we would pull off a shock win on Saturday - the start of the comeback.
Nurse!..My meds!
(Just reading back through the thread and echoing Roger Helm @731 here with this post.)
788 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:36:23
Frank's lack of nous for a supposedly intelligent guy was surprising.
However it is not the critics of the board that are at fault but rather the blinkered fools who continued to back Lampard after months of utter garbage and the two Bournemouth games were the signal that he was clueless and unable to put it right.
Moshiri and Kenwright had their own financial reasons for hoping that Frank could turn things round but they wern't alone backing the likable millionaire.
I noticed how he milked every one of our wins, when other managers would have trotted straight down the tunnel.
The owner and Chairman have wrecked things and they appointed Frank in the first place.
So the heirarchy deserve the grief but so does Lampard.
At least with Dyche we have a fighter -it will be very interesting to see if he can get more out of a squad that a few weeks ago was considered by the media to be a mid-table group.
789 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:39:43
Its worth a shot.
790 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:40:50
As the old saying goes, you can't polish a turd.
Change takes time unless you buy players who are already used to playing a style a particular manager wants to play.
791 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:45:41
792 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:46:45
793 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:49:08
Im as gutted as the next person on here following yesterdays transfer debacle but now we know where we stand (firmly in the s*it as we cant score/create goals) and we have to put faith in Dyche and get behind the squad. I'm confident Dyche will get the team fitter and organised - which I feel is something we have missed for several years under previous management, and therefore more combatitive. it may not be pretty but we need ponits and I don't care how we get them.
794 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:52:14
Well spoken, good interview
If we are all on that page we'll be okay UTFT's
795 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:53:30
It seems all fans are now focused on getting behind Dyche and the team. He's now being lauded as the messiah that can lead us to the promised land of Premier league survival and "fair play to him for taking us on" etc.
If he fails it's not his fault its the board, if he succeeds he's saved us. It's a win win for him.
796 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:54:58
Lampard should have gone after Bournemouth fiasco and we can blame the board for not acting then.
But demonstrating about the board mid season has brought us to this point.
It is now time for cool heads and biggest ever demonstration against this shocking board at the end of the season, not now.
Get behind Team and Dyche even if we are well beat v Arsenal and for the rest of the season. The only sensible option.
Cool heads and COYB!
797 Posted 01/02/2023 at 13:59:20
Has it ever worked in the past, apart from the odd flurry of a few victories before we hit rock-bottom?
From Everton's POV, the transfer window is a waste of time and money.
798 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:00:16
Who'd want to play for us?
What a load of shite
Under pressure earning thousands a week
Go tell a few of my muckers lying in the Falklands and other shithouses around the world
I'd birch the fucking lot of them, especially the Board
799 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:05:31
While at Everton. Maupay never played in a two. Franks fault. Maupay will benefit having DCL up top with him.
Midfield. No formation, no understanding. under performing players, kept their places, week in week out. Franks fault.
Sean Dyche. Will not tolerate under performance from any player.
Under Frank. Our midfield a total shambles, Sunday league, at best. This is where we will see the return of the dogs of war.
COYBB.
800 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:07:13
But give up on Everton? Never.
801 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:09:38
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/andre-ayew-everton-latest-forward-26128327
802 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:14:34
As for Dyche, he deserves our support and needs it but let's not delude ourselves. The only reason we need him is because of board mismanagement. The only reason the board wanted him is because they people who can work miracles on a shoestring until they eventually cash in.
So nothing about this situation is good. It's ridiculous to lumber Frank with all the blame or to blame Gordon's alleged "strike." Yes, Frank was floundering but who appointed him? Who failed to back him in the market? Who talked up Gordon and fan protests then cashed in on him and pocketed the cash? If we are relegated the board will throw Dyche under the bus. If we survive they'll keep him around until there are the first whispers of discontent with his pragmatic style. The board are the root of all our problems and we must not forget that.
803 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:23:10
804 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:25:45
805 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:29:25
The board are - ehem - a tad useless, but they're not the club - that's a bigger thing that has been breathing for over a hundred years.
So, pause.
We are not going to go down.
We will get a new stadium.
FM will sell to someone with a bit more ambition.
It might be a bit rocky...
806 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:30:44
807 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:31:52
Apparently Palace are after him as, well and they have the advantage as his younger brother Jordan Ayew is currently contracted to the Selhurst Park outfit.
Dont think we could fall any further in recruitment as players prefer Forest, Leeds and Southhampton over Everton. Wonder if this was what Moshiri meant when he said, judge me when the transfer window is over.
808 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:46:13
809 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:46:25
810 Posted 01/02/2023 at 14:59:11
Fact is that everything bad that we have seen happen over the past 20 years is directly related to downright corrupt leadership and ineptitude at board level and ownership. The fans are rightly showing their anger. Laying down and being quiet is not an option. We have to force this issue and make sure change happens. Fans are turning away and only us diehard blues will force their kids to become blue. We know who the other kids will follow in the future. There have been no good times whatsoever under this fraud.
Most of the good things we have in life like standards of living, health and safety, Work and pay conditions, freedom of speech etc were put there on the back of protest and many people suffering Hardships because of it. Strikes just like protest are essential to force change for the greater good. Football is not as important as any of them really but try telling that to supporters whose hard earned money and important family time is spent every week following their clubs. They have a right to show every bit of built up anger.
A few lads shouting at a couple of players and showing banners of disapproval is hardly worthy of the media headline it got. We do however live in the modern world of righteousness and scrutiny. Alot of us would have been in big trouble if the mobile phones and cameras were around in our day.
My thoughts are simple and it should be on display against Arsenal.
Lots of banners showing our disgust at the ownership and board but at the same time the crowd gets behind the team. The players have fuck all to do with the banners anyway as it's not against them nor Sean Dyche. Banners don't make noises.
Dyche knows exactly what he's up against and he's accepted the challenge and will be paid very well regardless of results. He fits the Boll for this gig ( pardon the pun ). I'm sure he will will be telling the players to ignore any off field shit, concentrate on the game, fight for everything and earn their ducking money. It may not be pretty what we're going to see but it's the only way to survive.
I know we will all be surprised if we get anything at all from a very good and hungry Arsenal team. They will not care about our predicament and will in fact exploit it to the maximum as they should.
Lampard should indeed have gone after the Bournemouth cup tie but it wasn't his fault he was not up to the task and left in charge. We went easy on Lampard just as we will with Dyche if it goes wrong on the pitch because the foundations were not put in place properly.
811 Posted 01/02/2023 at 15:00:12
He can only realistically answer the basic questions he gets (in one form or another) every time: Team news and line-up (the latter never supplied), injury updates, transfer news (also never supplied), verdict on the opposition, maybe wider questions about form/league position/some other topic related to the Premier League or football in general. And that's fair enough.
To expect that employee to answer questions about finance, ownership, strategy, the new stadium, the current stadium, any internal or community activities or investments behind the scenes is unrealistic.
So why not either have another employee (and don't forget the directors get paid) in the press conference to pick these other questions up?
As a club, Everton have the enviable reputation of being famous for a a great number of "firsts" which have shaped the history and future of the game. So why not create another?
812 Posted 01/02/2023 at 15:09:12
813 Posted 01/02/2023 at 15:18:35
Ten Hag has not let have Elanga on loan due to the atmosphere at the club, as testified by Van der Beek. This really frightens me. Atmosphere of what ? The terraces ? The dressing room ? The whole club ?
Dyche, who I have never liked, has got a lot to prove to me, but if he can galvanise the squad that we have and at least get the squad rubbing along well together and chalk up some decent performances, then it will be a good sign.
I can't help thinking that if DCL's shot against Southampton hadn't hit the bar, but gone in, things would be very different now. As we all know footballing fortunes turn on such incidents, and there could well be more before the end of the season.
COYB...and I am getting behind Dyche.
814 Posted 01/02/2023 at 15:38:06
Sorry, just fed up like everyone else but you have to laugh.
815 Posted 01/02/2023 at 15:51:01
Most think it's our right to protest against the Board in order to elicit change.
The trouble is, in the short term that's hurting our own club by creating an impossible atmosphere for the team and manager to rise above it all and perform to the standard needed to stay up. We're cutting off our noses, to spite our faces!
816 Posted 01/02/2023 at 15:51:10
He looks and sounds like someone that says it the way it is.
The players will do it his way or else their out sharpish.
Whether we can find more goals is going to be the difficult part, defence wise I think we are ok.
Our midfield is a real grey area, they need to start retaining the ball better as well as producing openings for forward players.
The're key for me, but maybe their just not good enough.
817 Posted 01/02/2023 at 15:51:51
818 Posted 01/02/2023 at 15:53:01
819 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:03:19
820 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:03:24
Hence no new players and no money for Dyche.
We will never know as the going's on at GP are shrouded in mystery. No one even knows who's actually in charge.
Weekends gonna be interesting but I'm predicting a battling draw to get the fans hopeful, with not a single director at the match.
821 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:04:30
There was lots of noise about us being in for Conor Gallagher but Chelsea have said they had no approaches for him from anyone.
The whole window had a feeling of the time we were supposedly in for Alan Shearer - offering Blackburn a lower fee than they accepted from Newcastle.
Of course there is so much rubbish around that it is difficult to know what to believe (unless you follow Chelsea or Forest - who did appear to have tried to sign anyone who was available).
822 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:19:26
Alert the UK and International media to the way our club has been run?
That's already been achieved, and the media are likely to stay on the case, and are probably digging for more dirt as I type.
Force the owner to sell up and move on?
Well, it could be argued that he has already decided to do that for himself, not necessarily to the timescale that some people want and he may have decided to do that well before, any fan protests took place.
Force the board to resign en-masse?
They are all too aware of the sentiments of many supporters and that doesn't look as if it will end in any individual resigning, never mind the whole board
I agree that the owner and the board are unfit to run a bath, but I can't understand what protesting will do, in the short or long term, what will we as fans gain from it? How will they help the team to gain positive results?.
Protesting for the removal of a particular manager may result in change and very often has.
Protesting for a change in ownership or for a change of board members is highly unlikely to result in any meaningful change, that is unless the parties involved find a buyer and decide to sell or the owner decides to sack members of the board or as individuals they step down.
Moshiri has already stated his belief in his board, and that he won't be forced into a knee-jerk reaction, when considering the make-up of that board.
If the owner and the board aren't fully aware of the supporters dissatisfaction already, I can't see how further banners and sit-ins will produce anything of note.
I'm not against protesting per se, but there has to be an achievable outcome at its core, otherwise it's mere barking at the moon.
823 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:23:51
Tyre kicking, I just hope Moshiri is getting everything together before he sells the club and departs.
When Kenwright spoke at the Hillsborough tribute and said the government picked on the wrong city, then I'm wondering if he will ever see a game at Bramley Moore now, because once scousers turn, it takes a lot to reign them back in, but this liar deserves everything that's coming his way now, imo
824 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:24:13
825 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:31:54
So unless Dyche can produce a miracle changearound in performance and results it looks like we are doomed.
826 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:48:59
In this post-truth era we're living in, who knows what's fact and what's fiction.
One fact is the squad is a man down for the fight.
However there is room for optimism with Dyche. He can get more out of each player. He'll have a system of play that is clear and executable. And build a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts.
Dyche has done it before. He's going to do it again. Lower mid table finish. COYB!!!
827 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:50:49
The club has previous form for this sort of thing - create the impression that we are active/serious players in the market and raising hopes while deliberately wasting everyone's time. I think most supporters are wise to this now. It didn't come as a complete surprise as I got the impression from Dyche's interview that he's accepted that his challenge is to get a tune out of the resources at his disposal.
Like many on here I'd love to hear something from Thelwell as to what his brief actually is.
828 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:50:54
829 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:52:19
Absolutely spot on gentlemen to quote Dave " Get behind the team and the manager before and during the game. I am not interested now protesting against phoney bastards, just blank and swerve them".
Also as Barry has said Moshiri has no appetite to remove any of this board and they show no remorse by resigning, and we are wasting our time in trying to get them to do otherwise. I understand the anger of my fellow fans wanting to demonstrate against the owner and the board who are utterly useless. But let the demonstration be about the will of our brilliant fans, who saved this club last year, and will do their upmost to do the same this season. Dont even mention them by name don't give them the satisfaction of having their names on banners, they no longer represent my club, as Dave said ignore the bastards completely.
Let the press report only on the magnificent fans who are determined in unparalleled circumstances to rescue OUR club from the ashes.
830 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:53:23
831 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:54:06
832 Posted 01/02/2023 at 16:58:26
If I was a player offered a move to Everton I would think back to how the supporters kept the club alive at the end of last season and want to be part of it. But, it's all about opinions.
I think we need to clutch at the straw that Dyche with the players we have is better than Lampard with them.
833 Posted 01/02/2023 at 17:01:01
Accepted.
it is wrong to call a 21 year old a young boy. In many walks of life he wouldnt even be considered a young man, but I do think he was a little red riding hood, to Kenwrights big bad wolf.
Steve.
It would be good. Rooney spilled the beans, but only after about 15 years. I guess anyone getting out of Kenwrights clutches have been too busy getting on with the careers to give him a second thought
834 Posted 01/02/2023 at 17:19:42
Unprecedented and historic was how they described their decision to not attend the Southampton game, and although they are using their own rope, right now, mud sticks.
The kids were ridiculously stupid, but it's still being spun very poorly by sections of the media, (and exactly how these lying, tyre kicking frauds, want it to be portrayed) who already had their stories before events unfolded on the streets after the game.
Yerry Mina, was shaking the kids hands, that's how bad it really was.
835 Posted 01/02/2023 at 17:24:06
836 Posted 01/02/2023 at 17:33:46
He was injured or shite, so never played many games, but he must have been around Goodison, and saw the welcoming parties afforded to the players with his own eyes. If the player has talked about a toxic atmosphere at Everton, he can surely only be talking about something far away from what the fans are allowed to witness inside the club?
838 Posted 01/02/2023 at 17:45:54
839 Posted 01/02/2023 at 17:46:41
There is no way we can unite to get out of this relegation bother whilst the fans and the board are at each other's throats. It's one, or the fucking other. But you can't have both.
So I say we park the protests til we are out of danger.
840 Posted 01/02/2023 at 17:52:14
He looks and sounds like someone that says it the way it is."
Disc beard envy.
841 Posted 01/02/2023 at 17:56:29
842 Posted 01/02/2023 at 18:01:15
843 Posted 01/02/2023 at 18:38:35
844 Posted 01/02/2023 at 18:40:39
845 Posted 01/02/2023 at 18:54:01
846 Posted 01/02/2023 at 18:54:18
The Everton website says nothing of the window but then again it's so out of date the main story is that we've signed Ian Wilson from Leicester City
847 Posted 01/02/2023 at 18:57:51
PS would welcome him back now...
848 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:00:54
Stay strong.
849 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:01:51
I understand people are angry, even more so after the nothing window but there is a danger of taking the spotlight off our dire need to win games.
850 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:04:36
Wasn't Bilyaletdinov marginally slower?
851 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:10:24
The eternal optimists who think Dyche can miraculously turn a bad side into a team of worldbeaters
Or the pessimists cum realists who can see the writing on the wall saying Welcome to the Championship
It doesn't look good thats for sure but neither did half time versus Palace
As fans we must get behind the players wearing the shirt and do our bit at all costs And for now turn our negativity of the board into positive energy home and away for the future of the club
Thats the best we can do
Time will tell
852 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:20:37
Turn to your right, reach down and pull your fellow dreamer up, stand together, we are one! COYB!
853 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:21:04
Bournemouth 1-3
Everton 8/13
Southampton 5/6
Then
Wolves, Nottingham Forest 3/1
Leeds, Leicester 4/1
Sean Dyche will deserve a statue if he can save us. I think we need an unlikely morale boosting win in the next two games. If we can beat Arsenal or the RS at their place it may just seed better results. Optimistic madness I hear you say!
854 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:25:04
The slowest Everton players that I can recall are Eric Moore (full back) and Paul Bracewell (half back). The former made up for lack of speed by being quite 'beefy'. The latter disguised his tardiness by being a fine footballer.
855 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:29:05
Turn to your right, reach down and pull your fellow dreamer up, stand together, we are one! COYB!''
856 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:39:30
857 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:52:11
Things have clearly got worse in last 12 months.
Caught between the desire to sell and not being prepared to sell without a profit.
=inertia on decision making a the board without real control. Any proof of alleged ownership by the government could lead to the Chelsea/Abramovich situation-assets frozen-just when we needed them to help survive.
858 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:57:30
Whether or not we, the fans, believe we can survive is not as important as our role in making the players believe we can survive.
Sean Dyche gives the impression that he believes and the very fact that he even took us on is strong evidence of that.
So, come on lads and girls, we have a critical role to play. Make Goodison a bear pit, put pride into our players and fear into theirs. Never give up and most important of all, instil belief.
We can do is if we stick together as one.
Bring it on!
UTFT!!!!!!!!!!
859 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:59:06
Sadly by the time I was old enough to pay attention to football Bracewell had just been injured so I only really got to see him at Newcastle although he was still a tidy player
860 Posted 01/02/2023 at 19:59:13
If we get relegated it will be due to the board not sacking Frank sooner.
861 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:00:54
862 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:02:29
Thelwell answer that one?
863 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:05:56
Please don't leave him on the bench 🤞🤞🤞
864 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:09:49
Lets go with what we've got 🤞🤞🤞
865 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:13:21
I'd rather we died fighting and swinging rather than on our knees.
866 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:15:02
With wingers and wing backs doubled there was a big hole in the midfield all could see and a lone striker feeding on scraps and long balls.
Dyche's style will address those tactical issues and with a bit of luck and confidence returning-things could change for the better very quickly.
Despite the lack of recruits-the players he has look more suited to Dyche's approach.
Gordon isn't a big loss right now-we have similar players who are more developed and we don't have time and space to wait for potential to shine if it hasn't peaked already? Plenty to be positive and pray for blues!!!
867 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:17:05
868 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:17:05
Of course the situation is not what we want, but we can all play our part by backing the team to the hilt. I understand that you and many ex-pats are unable to take part in any way, but I do wonder how many of the critics of the club/team, are non attenders of games, and can be classed as website warriors.
If God spares me for the next get-together, I will raise a glass to 'Absent Friends' and although I never had the chance to meet your uncle Tommy, he will be foremost in my mind. Best Wishes John.
869 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:18:54
Man up or ship out, if your not a Kenwright acolyte!
Your CV is already tainted by association with our once glorious club!
You can leave, but we can't!
Show some guts or take a hike!!!
870 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:25:50
It is a dangerous time for our club, and calls to arms from Christine, and each and every one who wants to give that call, won't go wasted.
The rally for for fellow Blues and to our Players and Manager, won't go amiss.
Like those Blues who went and clapped the lads leaving Finch Farm, Like the reception thjey got each week home and away. It all helps enormously.
871 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:33:46
Clever?
Not really.
We gave long term contracts to no hopers!, and where did that get us?
Nowhere, because we didn't have quality players with sell on potential after they had fulfilled their purpose.
Chelsea et al give long term contracts for players way and above the current value spread over 5yrs which equals £20m per season minus future sell on negotiations, by which time they are still attractive to the likes (dare I say it) of ourselves.
Despite the above, although thoroughly disolussioned, we will pull through, just ðŸ‘
872 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:45:22
873 Posted 01/02/2023 at 20:46:11
Social media created keyboard warriors, many of whom will never be counted and hide behind the anonymity of the internet. I come from a different world, one that has experienced first hand the magnificence of Kendall, Ball and Harvey, the Golden Vision, walking on the pitch in front of the directors box as a wee nipper to see the league trophy held high, to see the World cup and FA cup paraded around our pitch.
Those keyboard warriors have never seen that, never known that pride, never felt tears of joy running down their cheeks. They know not what they do. But I do. And one day, so will they. It's up to fans who have experienced that joy to balance, to motivate and still believe.
God willing I will be at BMD and with you raise a glass to the many gone but whose epitaph starts "Here lies an Evertonian.."
874 Posted 01/02/2023 at 21:15:39
wouldn't lace Sheedy's right.
875 Posted 01/02/2023 at 21:20:59
876 Posted 01/02/2023 at 21:25:11
EFCs troubles will really begin in the summer, the failures will then come home to roost.
877 Posted 01/02/2023 at 21:39:32
879 Posted 01/02/2023 at 21:59:21
880 Posted 01/02/2023 at 22:15:00
881 Posted 01/02/2023 at 22:17:18
882 Posted 01/02/2023 at 22:33:11
Fair enough although I thought he was one of the better ones available on a free. Clutching at straws I know……
883 Posted 01/02/2023 at 22:36:04
884 Posted 01/02/2023 at 22:42:20
885 Posted 01/02/2023 at 23:02:47
886 Posted 01/02/2023 at 23:27:59
887 Posted 01/02/2023 at 23:28:24
I would hazard a guess that most expats and and ‘ keyboard warriors ‘ like myself, have earned the right to be taking part in online discussions and continuing our distant support of the club. Our rallying cries are indeed meant to help but to get things off our chest from a distance.
I followed the blues from a kid brought up a mile away and travelled as much as possible with the great away fans on many a trip for many years before choosing another way of life far away. The cupboards are full of Everton memorabilia which I have brought back or has been sent over to Auss for myself or my boys. I'm sure there's lots of others in the same situation around the world who chose a different life. I miss the match more than anything so ToffeeWeb has been my greatest connection as well as tv football.
As for match day. You know as well as I do that the fans will all get behind the team when the truth is the the club don't deserve the support. The biggest impact on this disgusting board would be to stay away completely but that tears at the heart strings too much for most fans so they go along with a mixture of deep loyalty towards our clubs name but also anger and resentment which has never been more apparent than now.
Kings Dock, Kirkby, Ban the AGM, Ringfenced money, Benitez Allardyce, transfer policy, selling off the assets including best players, totally inept appointments at senior level management and a Chairman who wishes to control everything at the club to suit only himself and so leaving us in this dire situation. What is the not to protest about regardless of the teams situation ? Just get the message across via banners.
Get behind the team but the greater focus has to be getting rid of the Parasite and his mates.
Good luck to you all and the team on Saturday. Sean Dyche is gonna need it for sure so best wishes to him.
I hope to be having a pint or two in the Winslow and watch a few games later this year regardless of what division we are in.
888 Posted 01/02/2023 at 23:43:17
Some made sense, some made no sense and some were nonsense.
Everyone was written with the love and passion that we all have for Everton.
The anger and frustration with the management for us having this situation being
allowed to happen. I
Some believe we are doomed. Some have even given up. I'm glad you weren't here
in 1940 looking across the Chanel facing the gathering storm. We would have been in
a pickle wouldn't we ? Nobody gave us a chance. We just had to get on with it.
It's no good going on about the board they've got a thicker skin than Katie Price, it will just suck the life out of you and make you really bitter. Swerve them, blank them.
I am optimistic, not mad, deranged or even fully confident. The season is halfway through. That's gone. Dyche, love him or loath him is the man, our man now.
He'll have it back to Fortress Goodison. They'll be organized, compact and have a plan, purpose and direction, something the haven't had before.
We'll be behind the players and the man.
It starts against Arsenal.
We start again.
889 Posted 01/02/2023 at 00:01:39
My five cents - the press and pundits have relegated and some of them are openly taking the Mickey out of us.
Inspired by David's here is a Churchill quote which unfortunately I have had to use a couple of times in the last few years:-
“When you're going through hell just keep goingâ€.
Now a result against Arsenal would rattle a few cages.
890 Posted 02/02/2023 at 00:21:59
Often teams that make a large number of changes are actually destabilised, it takes time for team members to work together. May be that having the same players is not as bad as it first appears.
Everton will be better in the second half of the season, more organised and tactically aware. Positivity is an incredible thing - ask any FACup giant killer.
891 Posted 02/02/2023 at 00:50:33
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893 Posted 02/02/2023 at 01:18:17
As for Gordon, imagine he thinks the grass is greener elsewhere and probably thinks he also has a better chance of trophies. Although he can't play in the Carabao cup, his new side do stand a chance of winning one already.
Good luck to him
894 Posted 02/02/2023 at 01:39:44
Kieran 884, I'm a big believer in Onana. He's young and has a bit to learn, and it's not clear his best position, but with some good coaching I have no doubt he'll be world class in a few years.
Neil, I like your thinking with Isco, but feels like another Gomes to me at this point. I'd rather ride with Iwobi, Garner, Onana, and Doucoure in the central midfield. With some decent organization they'll be just as good as an aging Isco. Pretty sure the knock on Isco was that he wasn't a hard worker, so not exactly what we need at this point.
895 Posted 02/02/2023 at 01:40:44
Let's give the Gunners' hell this coming week. COYB!
896 Posted 02/02/2023 at 02:14:27
897 Posted 02/02/2023 at 02:52:32
I've admired Dyche for a while. People underestimate his job at Burnley. This was a team that almost dropped into non league not long ago. They could've been another Wrexham. He got them into the Prem TWICE and didn't just survive but made them competitive for many years. He has a bit of the Moyes about him but less dour. I'm feeling positive about his appointment
898 Posted 02/02/2023 at 03:15:32
I'd say that bar a few odd ducks on here we can also all agree that our Board and owner are a bunch of clowns, but the worry there is that the anger towards them could bleed into toxic feelings at Goodison if we don't get any decent results in the next 4-6 weeks.
But for now, a little optimism amidst the despair will do.
899 Posted 02/02/2023 at 04:38:40
Both players wanting out isn't relevant to their contractual obligations. I might want out of buying a house I agreed to pay for but that's doesn't oblige the seller to terminate the contract. If they need the money as much as we need a striker, why would they do it? Out of kindness? That's lovely and I'd honestly be happy if the club became a charity organisation instead of pretending to be a competitive sporting club. You can't be both.
900 Posted 02/02/2023 at 05:05:20
It's all a bit confusing to me.
901 Posted 02/02/2023 at 06:34:58
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903 Posted 02/02/2023 at 07:04:20
Why is he not involved with the club he dared to speak out years ago. Banished by Blue Bill.
Sharp has repeatedly had a go at any fans that want better. He's done this for years back when they tried to force Kirkby on us he used Radio City to attack protests and spout the club less He is nothing but a club mouthpiece that enables Blue Bill do get away with things.
It's posts like yours that prove what his role is "he's legend he loves the blues what he days about the fans must be trye".
He is a sponger taking from the club Every single fan who pays to watch the club now puts more into than him.
904 Posted 02/02/2023 at 07:17:22
But when Bill gave him an old box labelled 'Moyes' containing a flintlock duelling pistol with no charge, and a rust old pocket knife, he decided to show the board up for the clowns that they are.
905 Posted 02/02/2023 at 07:34:32
And I'm quite shocked that John Sr. made such an implication regarding ex-pat supporters who get up at ungodly hours in the night trying to find dubious streams to our games.
906 Posted 02/02/2023 at 11:26:56
Sorry, not sure I follow your logic. Apologies if I am missing something.
Don't know enough about contracts but don't think you can equate a property sale to sales of footballers. It seems, in theory, Everton maximised the sale of Gordon and Richarlison. I think 40 million for Gordon represents good business. Am not convinced he's as good as some think. However, at 21, he has plenty of time to improve.
We generally undersell players or let them walk away for free when the contract is up, probably due to their enormous wages as no other club wants to match it. Walcott springs to mind. With one year left on his contract, we loaned him to Southampton. So no fee but presumably off the wage bill.
I think there's alot that goes on behind the scenes with transfers than us mere mortals will ever know.
Football these days is a results business.
Lampard presumably got sacked due to poor results. Personally, I don't necessarily think that was the right decision.
Who knows, he might have wanted to leave. To be fair, who'd want to manage the club in our current state. However, the days of leaving by mutual consent are long gone.
Enjoy the rest of the season. I have us bet with a friend that we'll finish top 10
907 Posted 02/02/2023 at 13:57:05
In all businesses. Everyone in Sharpy position are told to tow the company line. Would anyone on ToffeeWeb resign and end up unemployed ? Sorry Andy. But you don't bite the hand that feeds you, unless you can afford too.
908 Posted 02/02/2023 at 15:05:37
We are all entitled to express our views on this site, but I consider that some are way over the top, and I am curious as to how many of the critics actually attend games. In closing, I would like to apologise again for not wording my post correctly.
909 Posted 02/02/2023 at 15:21:25
I took your post out of context as implying the same when I should know better from a supporter of your calibre.
Please accept my apology as I accept yours.
910 Posted 02/02/2023 at 15:22:25
All good on that mate as you clearly are a gentleman and I meant to say at the end of my post that I'd like to enjoy a pint with a few fellow ToffeeWebers like yourself should I manage to make it home late this year.
I have just posted on another thread that I would like a win on Saturday to give us all a lift and hopefully see some nice new happy threads on Saturday night.
We live in hope. COYB
911 Posted 02/02/2023 at 16:13:20
Can you blame Gordon for jumping ship, or no one wanting to join us.
The board and owner have sunk our great club to the very bottom, only the fans are the last remains of any fight in this great football club.
912 Posted 02/02/2023 at 19:05:30
I knew exactly what you meant, John, as I tried to reiterate in my reply, the internet created social media is an amazing tool to share knowledge, information and opinion. On its flip side, it also gives the contributor a sense of righteousness no matter what actual involvement or depth of understanding they have.
How their opinions should be judged is on the experience of the reader and the credibility of the poster. In situations like our very own, a lot of people comment after only reading headlines, not the details of any story.
So, like most things in life, balance and perspective are required, but we all have emotions and sometimes logic is replaced with rhetoric.
Passion inflames; anger results.
913 Posted 02/02/2023 at 19:14:14
I thought Dyche handled questions well today (not a Dyche fan really) but there's been typical deafening silence since deadline day.
I was speaking with my old man about how we can change any of this. If we protest, we get vilified ...so surely the only other option is don't go the match?
We could go and just support the team, which I fully back and understand, but part of me is so resentful that this board just get away with it time and time again.
914 Posted 02/02/2023 at 21:20:19
No feeling sorry or hard done by, full fighting spirit by the Everton squad and all Evertonians.
The damage sustained this season on top of the sustained decline, over decades, has made this season, massive in view of the survival and sustainability of EFC.
Stick together, fight to the end and hopefully survive, and start with fresh hope in this summer.
Hopefully the Board will have been ousted or will have resigned.
The great Everton Book of Revelations, who knows aside from some outgoing transfers, from, Everton, were all the so called bids for players genuine..
But for now the fight for survival is priority, beat the Arsenal.
UTFTs!
915 Posted 03/02/2023 at 09:11:50
Maybe he can't afford to retire, maybe he's paid enough to swallow his conscience who knows, he's essentially just a paid employee of the club he's now no more of a legend than Doris the tea lady.
True legends would fight for this club and speak out, he not only doesn't do that but he repeatedly attacks fans who do care and who ultimately contribute to his wages.
So I'm sorry but thanks for the goals Sharpy and winning stuff when Everton were a great team, and thanks for enabling Kenwright to destroy the club you won stuff with that is now your legacy
My gripe is with people still being up his arse when he's essentially used as a weapon against fans to enable Kenwright.
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5 Posted 31/01/2023 at 05:45:25
Unbelievable, surely Thelwell is not that daft, media shite stirred up by desperate agents.