Everton U18s are humbled at Marine in the Liverpool Senior Cup

28/02/2023 53comments  |  Jump to last
Marine 4 - 1 Everton U18s

Everton U18s were well beaten at Marine Travel Arena in the quarter-final of the Liverpool Senior Cup tonight.

This competition goes back many many years to the origins of English football with Everton last winning it in 2016. It represents the club's most successful competition with 46 wins spanning across three centuries, although it has not been contested since the 2020 edition was cancelled due to the Covid-19 pandemic.

It has been the domain of the U18s in recent years and they got a bye into the quarter-finals, along with Tranmere Rovers, who lost last week to Bootle and indeed this was one of the youngest sides Leighton Baines has fielded all season, with some new or rarely seen youngsters: Luca Davis, George Morgan, Jos van Schoor, Harrison Armstrong and Joel Catesby. 

The home side took the lead after 16 minutes and scored again on 27 minutes. Two more goals in the second half gave them an unassailable lead. 

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Martin Serif got on the scoresheet late in the game with a consolation goal for the very young Blues who exit the competition with a whimper. 

Everton U18s: Barrett, Maher, Wright, Mallon (9' Armstrong), Davis, O Samuels-Smith [Y:36'], Beaumont-Clark (81'  Catesby) Coughlan, Sherif, Cahill (81' Morgan), Smikle-James.

Subs not Used: Graham, Van Schoor. 

Attendance: 1,466



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Peter Mills
1 Posted 28/02/2023 at 19:13:00
1. Jack Barrett
2. Dan Maher
3. Harry Wright
4. Matthew Mallon
5. Luca Davis
6. Odin Samuels-Smith
7. Jacob Beaumont-Clark
8. Sam Coughlan
9. Martin Sherif
10. Shae Cahill
11. Troy Smikle-James

Dave Abrahams
2 Posted 28/02/2023 at 19:33:59
Who are you supporting, Peter?

Marine, he answered!!

John Burns
3 Posted 28/02/2023 at 20:03:33
1-0 to Marine. 16 minutes. Everton look very lightweight and I think are in for a hammering!
Peter Mills
4 Posted 28/02/2023 at 20:04:08
Marine at the moment, Dave!
John Burns
5 Posted 28/02/2023 at 20:31:38
2-0 after 27 minutes. Marine look about at least 5 years older on average. It's going to be a typical Everton night.

Although, I do like Everton's Number 3 (Harry Wright). He keeps shouting at our centre forward (Martin Sherif), urging him to do as he tells him and move up the pitch. I wish Martin would listen.

Peter Mills
6 Posted 28/02/2023 at 20:36:57
John’s got it right, men against boys so far.
John Burns
7 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:17:02
Brilliant third goal by Marine. The Everton lads have tried but Marine have been too good.

When will Everton start to take cup competitions seriously. Even playing the Under 21’s would be a bit more respectful to a competition called the ‘Senior Cup’!

Michael Kenrick
8 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:17:40

Can you make a note of the Everton subs for me, please?


Michael Kenrick
9 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:21:00
3-0 after 69 minutes.
Tony Abrahams
10 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:25:25
I wish someone at Everton, would take a note of John’s second paragraph@7.
Dave Abrahams
11 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:29:20
Michael (8)

Dylan Graham, George Morgan, Josh Van Schoor, Harrison Armstrong, Joel Catesby.

Peter Mills
12 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:31:14
After an improved first 15 minutes of the second half from Everton, it’s now 3-0!
Peter Mills
13 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:32:19
Peter Mills
14 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:37:12
4-1, Martin Sherif
Michael Kenrick
15 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:37:54
Thanks, Dave.

I was thinking more when they might be deployed, and for whom?

But no worries – I've found a source of match details, and will add subs, yellow cards above.

Tony Abrahams
16 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:40:26
It's a great experience for the kids though, and if the same two teams played against each other this time next year, then I'm sure Everton would win.
Dave Abrahams
17 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:44:16
John (7),

Yes, the Liverpool Senior Cup. I've seen finals (maybe you have yourself) in this competition that attracted 40,000 attendances or even more!!

Michael Kenrick
18 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:51:18
Well, I thought it was a source...

They are telling me Dylan Graham (the sub goalkeeper) replaced Shae Cahill (very definitely not the goalkeeper) on 81 minutes... surely it was George Morgan, who should have been wearing No 12?

Ya just can't get good help these days...

Michael Kenrick
19 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:53:59
That would be a good trivia question, Dave.

I wonder if the great Dr Everton (David France) covered them games in Toffee Pages???

Barry Hesketh
20 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:56:53
Everton 4, Liverpool 3
May 9, 1961
Liverpool Senior Cup Final
Goodison Park
Goals; Fell (28) 981), Vernon (2-0), Collins (Penalty 4-2), St John (43) (50) (90)
Everton (2-3-5) Dunlop (a); Parker (a), Thomson (g); Gabriel (j), Labone (b), Harris (b); Temple (d), Collins (r) (captain), Young (a), Vernon (r), Fell (j), Manager Harry Catterick
Liverpool (2-3-5)Slater; Molyneux, Byrne; Wheeler, White, Lieshman; Callaghan, Hunt, St. John, Melia, Morrissey (j) (future blue), manager Bill Shankly
Att 51,669
Addition-Penalty Vernon grassed by Molyneux
Dave Abrahams
21 Posted 28/02/2023 at 21:59:53
Michael (19), One of those finals,at Goodison Park was between Everton and Liverpool when Ian St. John made his debut for Liverpool and scored an hat trick but finished on the losing side with Everton winning 4-3, Jimmy Fell scored two for the Blues and maybe Bobby Collins got another,not sure who got the other,John McFarlane will know.
Barry Hesketh
22 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:01:58

One fact emerged clearly from the thoroughly entertaining Liverpool Senior Cup final at Goodison Park last night-Liverpool have bought right sort in Ian St. John, whose debut in this city was crowned by a hat-trick of the sort usually reserved for story books. His first goal, just before half-time, was a gift as Harris "lost" Dunlop with a back pass, the ball hitting the upright slowly and stopping invitingly on the line for St. John, in company with Hunt, to crack it home; his second, five minutes after half-time, was a neatly taken shot on the half turn as Callaghan lobbed the ball through to him in a crowded goalmouth: his third, a minute from the end, was a cracker. He chased a long through ball from Hunt, brushed aside the 13-stone Labone in full stride and hammered it into the net from 12 yards. St. John deserved his ovation at the end and the back -slapping of hordes of boys who invaded the pitch. He is a fast, go-ahead player, neat with his distribution and it took an equally good performance by Labone to keep him quiet in midfield. Altogether, an impressive display and it was little wonder that Liverpool chairman Tom Williams was smiling his pleasure afterwards. St. John is the type of player Liverpool fans have wanted to see at Anfield for years. Everton just won 4-3 to retain the trophy and were rather fortunate to do so, I thought. If the first half was their's because of their more classy approach work. Liverpool certainly had the best a the second. Everton went two goals up by the 38th minute from Fell and Vernon, it looked as though the match was going to go all one way. But St. John’s first goal was the spur Liverpool needed and they went in at half-time only 2-1 down instead of three or four behind which Everton’s pressure might well have earned it Vernon, Young and Harris had not put shots into the goal stand rather than the goal.
Liverpool took control of the second half because Wheeler and Milne tackled Vernon and Collins out of the game. When that was achieved, Everton lost their composure and their attacking style and, unfortunately, because little rattled so that there were some tackles and fouls which referee Stringer did not stamp on, Liverpool deserved to draw level and could easily have taken the lead if Hunt had not missed the chance of the match and Gabriel had not been lucky enough to put a pass to Dunlop just wide rather than just inside the post. As it was, Fell scored his second goal rather fortunately as the ball struck White in flight and was deflected away from Slater. That came only eight minutes from the end and when Collins scored from a penalty four minutes later after Molyneux had fouled Vernon, Everton had taken a 4-2 lead which they did not deserve on their second half performance. St. John's third goal came too late to save the day but his side had taken a good deal of the shine off Everton’s excellence. I give full marks to Liverpool for appreciating what other side shave learned during the season that if Vernon and Collins can be shackled by first-time tackling, Everton for their rhythm. This was a great game to end the season. I thought both defences took the major honours, with Labone, Parker and Gabriel outstanding for Everton, while White did very well indeed to hold Young. He was ably supported by Molyneux and Bryne, while Wheeler had a magnificent match all through. Milne was quietly effective and tackled Collins really well, and Melia and Callaghan both improved greatly in the second half. But this was very much St. John’s match and it looks now as though our senior clubs in this city have two class centre forwards of the type to draw the crowds and, most important, win matches. The crowd of over 51,000 once again showed that Liverpool has the best football support of any area in the country. Where else would one find an attendance of this size for an end-of-season game for a junior cup competition? It proves that if Everton and Liverpool provide the talent and the attractive, Liverpool fans will pack our grounds.

Not at all happy about that last part of the sentence by the way.

Peter Mills
23 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:04:24
Michael, sorry, I didn’t keep a record of subs deployed. Dave has correctly listed the 5 named.

I had a brief word with Darren Griffiths before the match, he said he would be posting on the Everton site tomorrow.

Not a lot more to report, no lack of Everton effort but they were outclassed and outmuscled.

Dave Abrahams
24 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:12:02
Barry ( 22), Blimey you was quick off the mark with that post Barry, I wasn’t happy with that reporter either Barry whoever he was, biased so and so. I was at game and two of St. John’s goals were tap ins.

Over 51,000 at the game, what brilliant Everton fans we were, turning up to watch them play a second division side!!

Michael Kenrick
25 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:12:57
Thanks, Pete.

There were a couple of Everton subs at 81 mins, but I can't believe Dylan Graham (No 12) came on for Shae Cahill. You didn't notice if it was in fact No 13... or No 14?

Darren may write a report but I doubt they will post the match details.

Michael Kenrick
26 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:18:09
Nice touch of history, guys.

By the time I started recording such activities on here, it was 1998 and the teams were both Reserves, although still with a smattering of senior players:

Liverpool Res 1 Everton Res 1

Liverpool Senior Cup Semi-Final
Halton Community Stadium, Thursday 15 January 1998

Everton: Gerrard, Lane, O'Connor, Dunne, Phelan (45' Eaton) Allen, Milligan, Grant, (90' O'Brien), Thomsen, Oster, Cadamarteri.
Subs not used: Regan? Scorer: Oster.

Everton's main tactic in the first half seemed to be the ball "over the top" for our Danny to run on to. However, after about 20 minutes, Liverpool went ahead. To their credit, Everton responded well and 5 mins later were level. Danny chased a through ball which was heading for the corner flag. He cut inside, left his man for dead and his cut back from the dead ball line was side-footed home by Oster. YES!

Everton then turned up the pressure and had several shots on goal but the score remained 1-1 at half-time. Liverpool applied the early pressure but they never forced Gerrard to make a meaningful save. Our best chance came when Danny raced clear only to hit the side netting.

Tony Grant was spraying beautiful 40-yard passes around but only seemed to be jogging around in the middle and as for Claus Thomsen, I don't think he even broke sweat. Anyway, the clock ran down...

Extra time proved to be the most exciting period of the match. Everton pushed on looking for the winning goal and it almost arrived when Oster was put through on goal on the right. He checked, cut inside the defender who was desperately trying to get goalside, and brought a great save from Warner. Then, with only minutes to go, Thomsen was sent clear. He took the ball into the penalty area but again Warner saved, this time with his legs.

And that was it. The game would go to a replay… and Everton would lose 4-0!!!

Barry Hesketh
27 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:19:03
Dave @ 24
Michael Charters of the Liverpool Echo was responsible for that match report.
John Burns
28 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:23:23
Barry/Dave. 51000 for a Senior Cup game? Incredible! And both teams putting out first teams determined to win. It wouldn’t happen today. How on earth did we allow football globalisation destroy the local identity of our game?
Barry Hesketh
29 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:28:48
According to Marine twitter feed
81’ Double Everton change.

Beaumont-Clark and Cahill are replaced by Graham and Catesby.

Michael Kenrick
30 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:31:10
Yea, I saw similar, Barry.

I just can't believe Everton would put the sub goalie on for an outfield player. Makes no sense.

But then very little does these days...

Dave Abrahams
31 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:31:37
Barry (27), I remember him well, always thought he was a Blue, didn’t sound like it with that report did he, mind you I was only twenty then so I might have been a bit biased!!
Michael Kenrick
32 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:37:07
To be fair, there's two ways to read that last sentence.

And given the context of what he was saying, I think he's actually referring to fans from the city of Liverpool, not just them kopite twats.

Dave Abrahams
33 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:37:55
Michael (26) I see that four players from that team made it to the first team, Dunne Gerard, Grant and Cadarmateri, so maybe the coaches were better twenty years ago!!
Dave Abrahams
34 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:44:18
Peter(23), I think Marine will be happy with the attendance, according to Michael K it was 1466, so a good night all round for them.
Michael Kenrick
35 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:45:16

Can't believe you're (by omission) doing down the great John Oster and the absolute star of the first team, Claus Thompsen! Also Terry Phelan!!!

I think maybe Allen, Milligan and O'Connor also got games for the first team – but my memory is not usually as good as yours!

Dave Abrahams
36 Posted 28/02/2023 at 22:55:09
Michael (35) I only mentioned the players who came through from being youngsters with club, Oster, Thomsen and Phelan were bought as was Milligan if he was the lad from Blackpool not sure if he played for the first team, O’Connor did but not many,and Allen, you’ve got me there, I can’t remember him at all.
Peter Mills
37 Posted 28/02/2023 at 23:12:29
Michael#25, I’m afraid I didn’t make a note of it. My respect for the speed and accuracy of your reports, already high, has increased tonight! It’s not easy when you’re trying to watch the match as well, and also attempting to be part of the usual match chatter.

Dave#34, it was a cracking attendance, and the lounges were full. I was also at the ground last night watching one of the grandsons play on the 4G pitch, purchased with the Tottenham money, which is proving to be a fantastic community asset.

Darren A
38 Posted 28/02/2023 at 23:36:44
Hi Dave @21,
I haven't posted on the this site before, but read the posts - you was at that game ? The reason I ask is that I used to drink with Jimmy Fell's lad in my local. Obviously used to talk football and knew his dad played for us (but not so many games), he would be made up with that fact.
Dave Abrahams
39 Posted 01/03/2023 at 10:31:21
Peter (37), I hope you had a good night, one of my mates son’s, his grandson and great grandson were going to the game, after emigrating to Crosby, they would have been in one of the lounges after the game. How did your grandson do in his game? I hope he scored a goal to make you proud.

Darren A (38), yes Jimmy came from Grimsby Town and played for the Blues over a couple of seasons before moving on to Newcastle, I think, very decent player with a good left foot, he made a good few Evertonians happy that night with his two goals!!

Alan J Thompson
40 Posted 01/03/2023 at 11:06:16
I was at that Final when St John debuted and scored a hat trick and to this day I thought Mickey Lill scored the winner. Just off for a lie down.
Dave Abrahams
41 Posted 01/03/2023 at 11:26:44
Alan (40)Mickey Lill, a good player for the Blues with plenty of goals in him but injuries spoilt his time with us and for most of his career, most probably would have played for us that night only for injury.

I saw him play for Everton reserves at Earle’s ground versus his old club Wolves when Goodison Park was getting the under ground heating installed.

Alan J Thompson
42 Posted 01/03/2023 at 15:41:12
Saw a few reserve games at Earl's ground in Wavertree, Dave, and I think it was there that Man Utd's keeper dropped his shorts, trying to remember his name, was it David Sadler? Distant memories.
Dave Abrahams
43 Posted 01/03/2023 at 16:46:14
Alan (42), David Sadler certainly played for Man.Unt. but he mostly played as a centre half, I think he played in the 1968 European Cup winning team, they had a ‘keeper named David Gaskell who played in the 1960’s, possibly him?
Peter Mills
44 Posted 01/03/2023 at 22:38:19
Dave#39 - indeed he did.

I asked little Charlie today “What’s the best goal to score?”, and of course he said “overhead kick into the top corner”. Then I showed him a video on my phone of the goal he scored at Marine when one of his mates hit a good shot that hit the inside of the post, the ball rolled along the line and hit the other post, Charlie ran in from nowhere and toed it in from an inch. I told him “That’s the best goal to score”.

Darren Hind
45 Posted 01/03/2023 at 22:43:36
Indeed, Christy.

Very disappointing to see him wave those imaginary cards.

The game is going to fuck.

Dave Abrahams
46 Posted 01/03/2023 at 22:49:08
Peter (44), Ha Ha Peter, goals count, twenty five yard thunderbolts or a well anticipated effort from an inch, I bet Charlie was made up you caught the goal on your phone, tell him I will be sending an Everton scout up to watch his next game!! Best wishes Peter and we’ll done Charlie.
Peter Mills
47 Posted 01/03/2023 at 22:55:54
Best wishes to you, too, Dave.

Tony Abrahams
48 Posted 02/03/2023 at 20:43:40
Brilliant that Peter, although you will never stop kids wanting to score overhead kicks!

I remember watching the kids playing and one of them scored a tap in because of good work by his teammate. Good goal that I said, because it had reminded me of Clough, who always wanted his teams to score five a side goals, but the kids were having none of it, and their terminology still brings a smile to my face years later.

A tap in was described as a sweaty goal. Brilliant!

Peter Mills
49 Posted 02/03/2023 at 21:55:49
Tony - he did it at Marine again tonight! A great game with two teams that have really developed over 2 years. 2-2 with 30 seconds to go, Charlie, who had had a very patchy game, poked in the winner from a foot out.

I’d better sign out from this thread now, Michael will get cross at non-Everton stuff!

Jon Harding
50 Posted 02/03/2023 at 21:57:38
Despite thd defeat I thoroughly enjoyed this thread especially the "emigrated to Crosby" line - thanks Dave A !
Alan J Thompson
51 Posted 03/03/2023 at 09:43:51
Dave(#43), Gaskell it indeed was, Cheers.
Dave Abrahams
52 Posted 03/03/2023 at 10:37:15
Peter (49), Peter what are you talking about “ NonEverton stuff” Charlie’s a Blue nose isn’t he?

It’s great he’s scored another goal and a winner to boot (or toe), you state the two teams have really developed over two years, that’s marvellous to watch and the more they stay together and play together the better they will become. I saw that with Tony and his mates from eight to fourteen years of age with mostly the same squad of players and a dedicated manager who was most probably the most important member of the squad and club.

Keep us posted Peter about Charlie, his brother and their teams, it’s nice to hear a little bit of good news these days, tell Charlie well done again!!

Danny O’Neill
53 Posted 03/03/2023 at 10:52:09
Peter, keep posting.

I enjoy reading about the progress of the youngsters. And also the comments on a local team.

Says me who lives in London, but you know me and what I mean.

These threads are respite from going into battle on the main ones. Keep us informed Peter. It's appreciated.

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