Aston Villa 1 - 2 Everton

Everton returned to Villa Park but this time in the 3rd Round of the Carabao Cup where Sean Dyche named a pretty strong team that included Jack Harrison for his Everton debut and they stunned Villa with 2 vital goals.

Young, Gana, Doucouré, Beto and McNeil step down to the bench, with Calvert-Lewin leading the line, supported by Danjuma.

Everton were strong from the kick-off, with Jack Harrison looking to play a significant forward role with the visitors pressing hard against the home side. It was fully 65 minutes before Villa got forward in any fashion, Branthwaite getting beaten by Diaby but Keane was there to intercept the cross and clear.

McGinn got around Patterson but Keane was again in to put the ball behind for a corner but Everton were hopeless dealing with the corner from which a Tielemans shot flashed over the bar after his first effort was blocked. Duran then attacked the Everton goal, which was saved by a deflection, with all 11 Everton players defending the corner. 

Mykolenko played a forward pass that was too pacey for Calvert-Lewin. But a Villa free-kick was played back to Olsen and Everton got forward again,  snapping relentlessly at the Villa players high in their half, forcing play back to Olsen again and again. And it paid off in spades, Oanana playing a brilliant ball through to Garner who finished superbly with an excellent left-foot strike on 15 minutes. 

Everton kept up the aggressive press after the restart, and continued to play up, on the front foot.  Calvert-Lewin almost got through on goal, but he fouled Konsa. Branthwaite was then across smartly to thwart Diaby. Another excellent high press pinned Villa back.

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Patterson cleverly won Everton a corner but it was played in low and completely wasted. Bailey had gone off injured and was eventually replaced by Zaniolo.

Danjuma was next to advance for Everton but he shot too early and it was blocked. But Danjuma picked it up and out of nothing created a deflected chance for Harrison where he seemed to have an open goal but the goalie's save bounced off McGinn and onto the post and away.

Calvert-Lewin was next to get through on goal but he fired into the side netting with only the keeper to beat. Another corner was won by Everton but too easily defended away. Garner swung his boot at a dropping ball but sliced it wide.

Danjuma tried to go it alone despite support but his shot was blocked. He regained the ball in the next attack but his pullback was deflected to McGinn who shot at his own keeper and almost scored!

Duran got past the Everton defenders but lashed his shot high into the Holte End before the half-time whistle went, with Everton ahead by one goal.

There were changes at half-time and Ollie Watkins immediately got through on goal only to be flagged offside. From a Villa free-kick, the ball went back and Calvert-Lewin pounced on the loose ball, firing superbly past Olsen for Everton's second goal. 

Villa looked to respond and Calvert-Lewin made a silly mistake, letting in Watkins but Pickford made a vital save to stop Villa from scoring. 

Calvert-Lewin played a great ball through to Harrison but he was not sharp enough to take advantage. A great ball from Danjuma played in  Calvert-Lewin, but his shot on Olsen's goal was too close to Olsen who parried it back into play. 

Dwight McNeil came on for Jack Harrison after he ran out of steam a little but he had looked good in all blue. 

Branthwaite's poor pass almost put Everton under pressure but Keane was there to stem the danger.

Into the last 20 minutes and Aston Villa were determined to turn the game around. Garner was caught by a nasty foul but no yellow card. 

But from a Villa corner, Kamara's shot was deflected past Pickford to put Villa back in the game with 7 minutes of normal time left plus 5 minutes of added time.

Aston Villa threw at Everton with chance after chance, Luiz tried a bicycle kick in the Blues box, but it flew over the bar, and somehow Everton survived. 

Aston Villa:  Olsen, Cash, Konsa, Dendoncker (46' Kamara), Pau, McGinn (46' Digne), Tielemans (78' Kellyman), Luiz [Y:90+4'], Bailey (32' Zaniolo), Diaby, Duran (46'  Watkins).

Subs not Used:  Martinez, Marschall, Diego Carlos, Traore.

Everton:  Pickford, Patterson, Keane, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko (46' Young), Onana (78' Doucouré), Garner, Harrison (65' McNeil), Calvert-Lewin (72' Beto), Danjuma, (72' Gana).

Subs not Used:  Virginia, Godfrey, Dobbin, Chermiti.

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Frank Sheppard
1 Posted 27/09/2023 at 18:53:16
Decent looking team, interesting choices. COYB.
Billy Shears
2 Posted 27/09/2023 at 18:55:11
I had a cheeky fiver on a win double last night (Exeter and Ipswich).

Amazingly Exeter bounced back from a home drubbing by Reading: 9-0... so anything in the crazy world of footy is possible!

Blues take note and win tonight, we need some momentum, consistency and belief going into our next two Premier League games.

David Nicholls
3 Posted 27/09/2023 at 18:59:02
Exciting team on paper! 3-4-3…
Jim Lloyd
4 Posted 27/09/2023 at 18:59:08
I like that team. It'll be nice to see Harrison in the midfield.
Jay Harris
5 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:03:39
OK but Michael Keane?? Haven't we seen enough of him.
Martin Reppion
6 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:05:46
Our bench looks stronger than it did at any time last year with McNeil, Beto, Chermiti and Dobbin, all attacking options, yet that starting line up is also as near to full strength as you could ask.
Looks like he's identified Duke as the player he can't afford to get injured. Hence he's sitting out.
If these players all bust a gut going for it tonight we should be looking forward to the draw!
Robert Tressell
7 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:07:08
I think the line up is Dyche's way to field a First XI without risking Doucoure and McNeil (the two players we have very limited cover for).

Still, it's a decently balanced line up and I look forward to seeing Harrison and Danjuma playing off DCL.


Colin Glassar
8 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:09:41
Decent looking side. Hopefully we can get a result.
Peter Thistle
9 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:11:58
not digging Patterson and Mykolenko as wingers if its 3-4-3
Tom Bowers
10 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:12:19
Never like to see 3 big guys at the back, especially if they are against quick guys like Bailey and Watkins.

Maybe because they want to get them up for the free kicks and corners assuming we can get enough of them.

Still it's a dodgy move.

Tony Everan
11 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:16:16
Strong side, expecting a good game.

I think we will do well tonight and win, even if it goes to penaltiess.


Bill Gienapp
12 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:25:35
Jay (5) - yeah, I'd prefer Godfrey, who tends to function okay in a back three. Also, I still have hope of him being potentially salvaged as a player, whereas Keane is what he is at this point.
Alex Gray
13 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:54:23
Anyone got any streaming links for the game? My usual one's decided to not work!
Christy Ring
14 Posted 27/09/2023 at 19:55:38
I'd agree with Bill, Godfrey is younger has more pace than Keane, who is at the top end of his career.
Ed Prytherch
15 Posted 27/09/2023 at 20:42:20
James Garner has been superb and Onana has been good alongside him. Could they be our midfield partnership from now on?
Johan Elmgren
16 Posted 27/09/2023 at 21:44:28
Great win at a difficult ground for us. Garner my MotM, he was immense!

Things seem to be coming together, hope it continues.

Will Mabon
17 Posted 27/09/2023 at 21:46:31
Two wins on the run.
Dave Lynch
18 Posted 27/09/2023 at 21:47:38
Onana was bossing the middle, we nearly fell apart when he was replaced.

Good win and I'm ecstatic but, for fuck's sake, they were terrible substitutions.

Peter Moore
19 Posted 27/09/2023 at 21:48:20
Losing is a habit. So is WINNING!!! Delighted!

Bring on Luton. They will be giving their all. They have an extra day's rest.

We must not underestimate them, but, go full tilt and Booooom! We are in Business!

Beto to get his first Premier League goals?! COYB, UTFT

Ernie Baywood
20 Posted 27/09/2023 at 21:52:21
Another striker's finish by DCL. Very similar to the one called a fluke by a few on here on Saturday!

I hope he keeps consistently fluking them!

Colin Malone
21 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:01:06
Nice balance, until the headless chicken came on.
Barry Hesketh
22 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:01:47
Not as convincing as last Saturday, but it's a cup-tie, so who gives a flying one. The full-backs are still a cause for concern, against more up tempo opposition they will wilt. It's apparently the first defeat on home soil for Villa as they've won their previous ten prior to tonight?

I'm slightly concerned about Beto, he looked so hungry in his first game, but he looks a little disinterested at times, perhaps that's just part and parcel of his personality. Danjuma, could do with a lesson in performing in a team, i.e. sometimes it's better to pass than shoot.

Garner and Onana were outstanding for long periods of the game, but the subs Villa made, put us on the back-foot more often than we'd like, although they didn't make too many clear-cut chances and we had a couple of breakaway moves to seal the win.

All in all, a morale boosting victory on the road, next stop Goodison.

Will Mabon
23 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:06:51
Barry, agree re. Beto.

I wonder if the initial demands got to him and shocked his physique a little; he isn't showing the original pace, lost out to defenders more than once in sprints. Hopefully he adapts.

Terry Farrell
24 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:08:33
We have turned a corner Dom is back Braithwaite is quality Garner superb Picko Tarks Onana Mcneil Doucoure playing well and the fans believe again. Well done Sean D. Must keep up this level of performance and effort but lovely to see our players enjoying it and playing with confidence.
Robert Tressell
25 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:08:40
Well done Dyche and players for taking the cup seriously. A lot to like about that performance - because it takes a lot of good play and hard work to make Villa look that poor at home. We've got the makings of a good side emerging here - just light on cover. Let's keep this cup run going!
Oliver Molloy
26 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:09:40
Fantastic win. I thought Dyce had nothing to lose and so it proved with the team that started.
The team played really well in the first half, and I think Dyche subs made us sit back too much and could have cost us.
Beto, for me needs to do more, he looked clumsy at times. I'm just hoping he can get himself a goal or two soon and that might settle him.
So in the space of four days back to back away wins - Luton next and we need to win that at our place end of story.
Craig Walker
27 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:12:28
Pleased for Dyche. He’s the right man for us in our current state. Would love us to kick on against Luton and carry on the momentum.

Villa are a good team and Emery is a very good cup manager. I had low expectations for tonight.

Hope Goodison is rocking against Luton and we can make our home a fortress again. Signs that we might be alright but let’s not get carried away.

Jason Li
28 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:13:04
Onana and Garner bossed the midfield. Tackling, wrestling the ball off Villa plus pass n move. Time to let this partnership develop a bit more. Let's hope we see Gana rotate with Garner more often.

Branthwaite is immense. Reads the game like Maldini, but playing centre-back. Composed, strong, good balance, can turn.

The spine of the team looks really promising. The football is going to be much more exciting than last season if the improvements keep carrying on.

Great performance for the travelling Evertonians who deserved a win there after so many visits since the last win there.

Dave Abrahams
29 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:14:28
Got a stream to work with about 25 minutes to go and we looked nice and steady with not much danger to worry about until the deflected goal. Then Villa looked more determined but we looked just as determined to keep them out and with a bit more composure up front might have got a third goal.

Two away wins in five days and five goals and both wins deserved, although I missed most of this match. A good performance from Onana (?) I would have appreciated that. Let's get a home game in the next round.

Kieran Kinsella
30 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:14:38
Fit to wear the shirt!!!
Jerome Shields
31 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:16:54
A solid performance and a team that gelled.
Ben King
32 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:17:11
Fantastic win AWAY to an excellent Villa team

Make no mistake: that’s a big win and should give the players (and fans) a huge lift

Only see DCL’s goal but what a superb piece of individual brilliance

Dyche deserves enormous credit

Duncan McDine
33 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:20:37
Just leaving Brum feeling very happy. Felt like we were in complete control for 80 mins and then kept it fairly safe following the inevitable kitchen sink from Villa.

DCL shows exactly why we depend on his availability. Top drawer centre forward in every aspect.

Dave Cashen
34 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:22:30
Travelling blues finally seeing the performances and attitude their support deserves.

Long may it continue

Tony Abrahams
35 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:24:51
Much better until the changes upset our rhythm, and like people are saying Garner and Onana, gave us a bit of everything in the middle of the park tonight. Let’s see who we get in the next round now, and let’s see if we can go on and make it three wins in eight days, on Saturday afternoon.
Jay Harris
36 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:26:07
Totally concur Duncan.

What a performance from the away end.

I hope we’ve turned the corner now and confidence seems to be creeping back in.

Mal van Schaick
37 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:27:39
Well done. We got a bit deep in the last 15 minutes, but showed resilience and what an improvement from last season, with a change of personnel.

Let’s keep the momentum going and get more league points on the board.

Paul Birmingham
38 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:27:43
That's a fine display with no fear and some very good football, and it could have been 3 or 4 by half time.

Garner was superb and the whole squad seems to have
got the mental and physical strength and belief back.

Very pleasing and some nice descions for Dyche for the Luton game. Hopefully no injuries from tonight

Early days, made up to win and beat Villa at their place.


Frank Knight
39 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:28:02
Brentford or Blackburn please
Oliver Molloy
40 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:28:59
Keeping the fingers crossed - ball 9 out first please -
Barry Hesketh
41 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:31:08
I think I'm right in saying that was Everton's first away cup win against Premier League opposition since beating Bournemouth in the FA Cup back in 2016.
Frank Knight
42 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:31:23
Don’t know what I just posted there’s!
Frank Knight
43 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:32:09
Home dtaw
John Atkins
44 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:32:22
Great draw home to Burnley
Brent Stephens
45 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:32:26
Burnley - good draw,
Brian Williams
46 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:32:39
Burnley at home!!!
Frank Knight
47 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:32:51
Gotta be happy with that
Mike Hayes
48 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:32:53
Good home draw to Burnley 💙
Iain Johnston
49 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:34:34
Bloody hell, yet another game I've really enjoyed!

Win on Saturday and I'll need oxygen... crikey!

Well done blues, Garner was excellent and Branthwaite is a giant. Harrison had a good debut too.

Alas though a thought the bloke third row up on the end behind the goal, yer know, the one with the blue top on? He was just a tad off key during our fans superb singing of Spirit of The Blues.

Clearly it must have been the excitement, we're never off key...!

Hugh McKillop
50 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:37:53
Any doubters of Sean Dyche need to watch this performance. Tactically excellent against a strong Villa team who haven't lost at home in over 13 games.

Great cover and balance, players all know their own responsibility – when the traps were set, they all went and helped get the first goal.

Branthwaite is Rolls-Royce, and under tutelage of Big T, he will only get better. I thought Keane did well but always has one mistake in him.

Garner is a steal – he's always on the front foot, his ability to anticipate the turn off a player allows him to effortlessly step in to regain possession and his control is excellent.

All round great performance and probably should have won by more. Just need to carry on with a home win on Saturday.

Brent Stephens
51 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:39:22
Hugh, yes, a tactical masterclass. It made Villa look pedestrian. We ran them down.
Dave Abrahams
52 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:44:11
According to the Everton website, that was Calvert-Lewin's 11th goal in the League Cup from 11 games.
Paul Ferry
53 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:46:44
It think that it was rather more than a "battling display".
Ernie Baywood
54 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:47:29
Home draw should be better, in theory... in practice, we haven't scored at home yet this season.

I know we could argue we were unlucky against Wolves and Fulham but I think our home form is a genuine issue. The onus is on us to attack more than we are comfortable with when we haven't been set up that way.

It has to change this weekend. We have attacking players at our disposal and we don't need the 'solidity' that someone like Gueye provides. I'd argue we also don't need the workmanlike attacking midfielder, Doucouré. He's there to nick a goal in a typically defensive performance. Valuable at times, but not in this game.

Playing 'solid' players against Luton is just inviting them to play in a low-quality match – which is the type of match they are comfortable in.

Paul Ferry
55 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:48:09
What is it with MK and his grudging headlines!
Jim Lloyd
56 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:56:04
I think we were so good that Villa didn't know how to play us and the supporters had a nice hour listening to our supporters go through their repertoire.

Well done Blues, both on and off the pitch.

Steve Mink
57 Posted 27/09/2023 at 22:58:48
Now leave Garner and Onana in centre mid.
Peter Mills
58 Posted 27/09/2023 at 23:12:07
It was a very smart tactical performance in which everyone did their job.

Sometimes it looked like 5-4-1, others 3-6-1, but the important thing was that, until we retreated when 2-0 up, there were always men up the pitch supporting the 1. A lot of hard work was done.

And let's not forget the 1 furthest back, who made a crucial save with his foot.

And, talking of numbers, let's salute the 4,500 for their fantastic support.

Ian Sewell
59 Posted 27/09/2023 at 23:13:08
Well done, Sean Dyche and the squid!
Tony Everan
60 Posted 27/09/2023 at 23:13:31
Enjoyed this game, we were the better side when it mattered and got to 2-0 up before it became a bit scrappy. Loved the fact we took the game to them, the pressing was first class and great to see Villa panicked off the ball when trying to pass it out in the first half. We had this game won and they tried but couldn't really break us down, just a very good performance however way you look at it.

Young lads impressed again. Garner had a fabulous game and was outstanding in the first half. Branthwaite too provides class and balance to the defence. Onana continued in the same way as Brentford, his form has improved and is getting more involved. Patterson did well overall too.

Harrison looks to be a very shrewd signing and will get better too with more matches. Calvert-Lewin took his goal well and did some good work winning possession and free kicks to alleviate pressure. Tarkowski was a rock again and Pickford made a very good save as usual and looked generally in control.

The icing on the cake is being given a very winnable draw, not easy but we can be confident.

Onwards and upwards, looking forward to Saturday.

Lloyd Brodrick
61 Posted 27/09/2023 at 23:26:09
When my daughter rang to say she had tickets, I was a little worried, in about 60 games I have never seen us get beat.

Great game which we grew to control within 10 minutes. Onana gave the ball away four times early on then turned into a footballer and played well. Branthwaite was excellent again, pleased with Patterson and I do rate Garner.

Well done, Dominic, albeit it should have been two. Massive respect to the North Stand… wow, you out-sang them! And nicked two balls… we were stuck with the Villa fans, most of whom left before their goal.

John Pendleton
62 Posted 27/09/2023 at 23:59:53
For the love of god can we all pool together and get #61 Lloyd a ticket for every game, home and away.
Si Cooper
63 Posted 27/09/2023 at 00:08:06
Anyone prepared to take Lloyd to the next 60 games?

Good result and (‘sounds' like) performance. Anyone know if at least the goals can be easily viewed right now?

Happy for the always deserving away support. Burnley at home – winnable as long as we don't get complacent.

That applies to all the games I suppose. Wins against Luton and Bournemouth (especially to ‘honour' Mike Gaynes's visit) would really help player psychology by actually putting some distance between us and those who are likely to struggle all season.

Is there an argument for getting absolute maximum playing time from Doucouré and Gana before the Afcon – even if Onana and Garner make a very effective pairing?

Dale Self
64 Posted 28/09/2023 at 00:09:15
Yes, don’t fuck about.
Danny O’Neill
65 Posted 28/09/2023 at 00:56:55
Not quite back in London yet and then still an hour to go.

I'll be up in 4 hours if I manage to sleep but don't care.

As always. I'll give myself time to reflect on a great evening.

Lloyd Brodrick
66 Posted 28/09/2023 at 00:57:23
Not so quick, John, of them games were draws.
Rob Halligan
67 Posted 28/09/2023 at 01:06:30
Hope you get home okay, Danny. At least you managed to catch your train. We got back to The Rocket about 11:55. Like you, will need time to reflect on the game before posting a proper post.

It was a very thorough performance by every player though, and even though that spawny Villa goal had us all on edge for the last few minutes, they didn't really pose much of a threat.

It would have been an absolute injustice had Villa snatched a draw, and therefore penalties, because I think we bossed the game from start to finish, and could quite easily have had the game sewn up by half-time.

The most important thing though, is we're through, and now have a very winnable home game in the next round. Maybe this is our year to finally win the League Cup. 🤞🤞🤞🤞

John Raftery
68 Posted 28/09/2023 at 01:20:21
I have heard it said by some our manager is one-dimensional in his tactical approach. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Tonight his 3-4-3 formation, making best use of the personnel available, worked perfectly for the 75 minutes it was employed. It certainly appeared to take Villa and Emery by surprise.

Apart from the closing minutes our back line of three centre-backs had a very comfortable evening. Patterson proved what many of us suspected; he is first and foremost an attacking wingback. Tonight he was superb in that role and after an early lapse was reliable in the defensive areas.

Likewise Garner showed us beyond doubt his best role is in midfield. His tackling and use of the ball were excellent. His first goal for the club will surely be the first of many. He linked well with Onana who was our man of the match, finally delivering the consummate midfield performance we need from a player valued at £60M. More please!

Up front Calvert-Lewin yet again showed what we have missed so badly over the past 25 months; pace, strength, control and goals. Jack Harrison gave the team the width, quality and work rate we need to make 3-4-3 function successfully. A great introduction for the loanee.

With nearly a full squad available, the manager now has some options to change both the selection and the shape of the team. The trend in our away form is pointing upwards. The challenge now is to turn things around at Goodison, starting on Saturday.

Lester Yip
69 Posted 28/09/2023 at 02:29:14
Good performance. Good start of a cup run.

Happy that Calvert-Lewin scored again. Hope he's fully back in strides and starts scoring for fun.

One question though. We seem to put everyone in the box when defending corners. I know based on probability it's harder to score from outside the box and we have a world-class shot-stopper. But do you get worried when the other team get a free-shot opportunity?

Alan McGuffog
70 Posted 28/09/2023 at 04:30:58

It seems like every manager since Howard Kendall has done that. It allows at least one of the opposition big defenders to come up. Moyes was terrible for doing it, even dragging small players like Osman back.

By leaving one man up on halfway, two of the opponents' men had to stay back. It wasn't as if the likes of Pienaar were going to win many headers defending corners.

Jeff Armstrong
71 Posted 28/09/2023 at 06:04:04
Alan @70,

A massive pet hate of mine too, believe it or not, but our last manager I saw leave someone up for a defensive corner (and he didn't do it often) ... Allardyce!

Steve Brown
72 Posted 28/09/2023 at 06:05:37
Confidence eh?

A beauty of a pass from our Onana for Garner's opener. Those two are our future central midfield partnership and both only 22 years old.

Calvert-Lewin calm as you like for his finish for the second – he was going to nutmeg the goalie again like last week but just couldn't be bothered.


Christine Foster
73 Posted 28/09/2023 at 06:50:20
We are so much better when we are hunting down the opposition than letting them come on to us. For an hour, Villa couldn't cope, then we started the subs and the tactics fall back into defend and we nearly stuffed a very good performance.

I realize that it's too much for the full game, but instead of dropping everyone behind the ball, remember they are more open at the back if they have to attack.

I liked Garner and Onana, I thought it was his best game for us. What a difference a striker makes too. Now let's put Luton to the sword!

Shaun Robinson
74 Posted 28/09/2023 at 07:43:46
Not even a mention of this game in The Times but there's reports on Brentford and West Ham's games as well as the usual suspects.

Shows where we stand in the media's thinking…

Trevor Powell
75 Posted 28/09/2023 at 08:49:21
My old Dad used to say that one of the strengths of the great Eighties Team was that they hunted the opposition in packs!

# 74 Shaun did you work at the San Diego Hilton in the early nineties? Just that I met a Bluenose there who was the catering manager by the same name, much to the chagrin of the wife!

John Raftery
76 Posted 28/09/2023 at 09:20:17
Shaun (74),

There is a report in my version of The Times, although they didn't list it in the contents page. Also the reporter reckoned we were playing five at the back. We didn't. For the first 75 minutes of play, it was 3-4-3.

Ray Jacques
77 Posted 28/09/2023 at 09:22:14
I didn't expect that.

Beat Luton and I might even smile!!!

Lee Robinson
78 Posted 28/09/2023 at 09:50:51
I was there last night, unfortunately had to sit in the Villa end as the away was sold out. I was sat beaming with pride not only at the performance but in awe of the noise from the away end.

That was the midfield I was waiting for, the 2 of Onana and Garner works, they really compliment each other, strong in the tackle and can play a pass. I think the extra responsibility for Onana was welcome and he took it. Gana was sloppy and often out of position when he came on. Onana looked like a beast last night, he takes an extra few seconds on the ball than needed but he is young and that will improve, Jimmy's technical ability is wasted on the right.

Great finish from DCL, it is nice to see him score a goal he made for himself and also with plenty of time to think about the finish, something which I think is the weaker side to his game, he looks sharp and the competition of Beto is really taking the pressure of him.

Branthwaite is a Rolls Royce and big bids will be coming in for him in the summer. Patterson is an athlete and it would be nice to see him get a run of games and really be a threat from the right.

I think we have a decent squad there fingers crossed no injuries to have a good cup run and dare I say mid table finish.

Only disappointment would be I though Dobbin would have been ideal instead of Mcneal to get a run out.

Brian Williams
79 Posted 28/09/2023 at 10:23:26
I'm waiting patiently for the usual suspects to post (this time) in praise of our dinosaur of a manager, you know the clueless one who knows nowt about tactics and encourages, if not demands, hoofball.
Seems when we play badly it's all his fault but yet when we play well due credit can be in short supply.
I wonder, is it at all possible that he might just know a little better than us? UTFT.
Sam Hoare
80 Posted 28/09/2023 at 10:37:43
You may be waiting a while Brian!

A good performance and a great result. We've had a few of the former but not enough of the latter. Perhaps that will begin to change now.

Interesting to see a different formation being used and I'm curious to see what Dyche will favour moving forwards. The stats suggest that we have been creating chances all season and that it may be at the other end we should be most most worried, but we looked organised and solid last night against a team with some very handy attacking players.

I wrote a piece a few weeks ago saying that I thought Thelwell had done some pretty excellent work this summer in the transfer window given the incredibly tight restrictions (we only spent £3m!) and it's pleasing that Dyche is beginning to get a tune out of those players. There will be some tough selection decisions for the next few weeks if everyone stays fit.

Could it be that a season of blissfully dull midtable obscurity awaits after all? Credit to Thelwell and Dyche if they manage to pull that off despite the absolute state of things in the boardroom and above.

Dave Abrahams
81 Posted 28/09/2023 at 10:54:28
Sam ( 80) Yes fair enough Sam but however it goes from now hasn’t it been great to wake up on Sunday and Thursday morning feeling happy, you can’t buy that feeling and I’ll be taking that feeling to Goodison Park on Saturday looking forward to Everton giving us another great day, been a long time since I felt going to the game like that, come on Blueboys carry on with that teamwork provided by Sean Dyche and his coaches.
Sam Hoare
82 Posted 28/09/2023 at 11:22:05
Dave, yes, certainly the best week we've had in a long time. To win away against two very decent teams in Brentford and Villa is no mean feat (even if they were weakened).

But moreover I feel that for the first time in a long while we have a manager and a playing squad that are well suited to each other. Finally there's a sense of team identity emerging and even some genuine competition for places in some positions. It's also a young squad with valuable assets who can and will have to be sold, but also a DOF/blueprint to spend any incoming funds sensibly and in a sustainable way.

There's clearly still a whole heap to sort out off the pitch and who knows how the 777 stuff will develop (they look our best/only hope currently) but it feels like on the pitch we may just be turning the corner somewhat.

Danny O’Neill
83 Posted 28/09/2023 at 12:12:12
As he was mentioned, Osman was good in the air. But in an attacking sense when he came from deep, running onto the ball.

The one that always stands out for me was the winner against Manchester City at Goodison. I was directly aligned and all 5ft 8 of him leapt above the City centre backs.

The 5ft 10 Tim Cahill wasn't too bad in the air.

Attacking and defending in the air are different arts. As they say, size doesn't always matter.

Kunal Desai
84 Posted 28/09/2023 at 12:44:46
No money can buy confidence. Use this to your advantage blues. Keep it going and few more goals going into the back of the Luton net on Saturday.
Colin Malone
85 Posted 28/09/2023 at 12:58:34
I love Doucouré's energy and attitude, but he has got to stop running after the ball like kids in a playground. It hinders the balance of the side and creates openings for the opposition.

Doucouré is no Number 10.

Trevor Bailey
86 Posted 28/09/2023 at 13:02:49
Brian 79,spot on. Only 80 odd posts after a really fine win. If we had lost all the experts would be out and this thread would probably be in the hundreds.
Raymond Fox
87 Posted 28/09/2023 at 13:05:31
Who's for sacking Dyche now?
Nick Page
88 Posted 28/09/2023 at 13:18:40
Just wait until we lose to Luton on Saturday. Everton that
Dave Abrahams
89 Posted 28/09/2023 at 13:21:25
Michael (O/P ), not to be awkward Michael but I’m sure Digne got a yellow card for that bad foul on Garner and I also thought that Beto was onside when Garner put him through, no VAR so the linesman did his job and did it badly, imo.
Christy Ring
90 Posted 28/09/2023 at 13:46:45
I thought Garner and Onana really clicked last night, and should continue together on Saturday, Garner very impressive in his proper position.

Nick Page? Nothing changes.

Craig Walker
91 Posted 28/09/2023 at 13:50:30
I was following the game but not watching it. I'd be interested to know how Harrison played.

My opinion when we signed him was that he'd be a good acquisition and probably contribute more than Gray or Iwobi. How did he do?

Who do you think should be the first-choice wide players? I'd like to see Harrison and McNeil with Garner in the middle. Danjuma coming off the bench.

Lee Robinson
92 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:03:57
Dave @ 89, I was going to mention that, I cannot find it shown on any highlights I have seen so far but I was right in line last night with Beto's run and it looked well onside even the Villa fans sat around me said the same. The lineman couldn't get his flag up fast enough was a real shame, when earlier he kept it down on a few occasions when someone was clearly off but allowed play to continue, very bizarre.
Rob Halligan
93 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:04:42
Off topic, and nowhere else to put this, but does anyone know that England U21’s are playing Northern Ireland U21’s at Goodison Park on 21st November, in a European qualifying game?

Hopefully Garner and Branthwaite will play and put an extra few thousand on the attendance.

Ian Riley
94 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:11:01
Raymond#84 Dyche was my first choice to replace frank. Wins bring confidence for players and fans. Starved of success has been our problem. Perhaps the money made us impatient for success and quick to panic wanting managers to go. Now we have realism with our squad and financial situation we are in. Dyche is a very good manager. Staying in the premiership and a good cup run is success.

The last 2 results gives everyone a lift and may that continue.

Mick O'Malley
95 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:27:23
I didn’t see the game, listened in the radio but I’m glad to see Onana getting a bit of praise, the lad is my favourite player and I’ve always said Gana was the problem in midfield, I’m hoping Dyche continues with James Garner and Onana as his midfield pairing, it’s great to see us winning away from home again but I’d like to see our home record improve under Dyche as there is no denying it’s been woeful, but we are seeing some green shoots of improvement, good to see Calvert Lewin score again, really good finish, onto Saturday and hoping we can overpower Luton and get our first home win of the season UTFT 💙
Brian Harrison
96 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:30:25
Anybody heard any update on Dele and his injury, I know Dyche said a few weeks back he was still a long way off being ready to integrate into the training with the first team. Only he was first back at Finch Farm in June for pre season training but got an unspecified injury and is hardly mentioned. Has this anything to do with the £10m we will have to pay Spurs after he plays 2 more games, I know Dyche commented last week that when he is fit Thelwell will have a discussion with Levy the Spurs chairman over changing the terms of the agreement. I really cant see Levy agreeing to any changes to either the financial agreement thats in place or the time frame regarding payments, I mean what's in it for Spurs.
Tony Sullivan
97 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:44:09
Dave Abrahams @81 Glad to see you are beginning to enjoy watching the Blues again.
We exhanged comments a few years ago when I learned you had worked in Cammell Lairds, I started as a Wood Machinist in the Cunard and we probably both attended many games together. In my case from 1952 onwards.
I value and respect your comments on ToffeeWeb long may they continue. Best wishes
Barry Hesketh
98 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:50:41
Brian @96
I'm sure I read somewhere that Dele has suffered a set-back in recent days, and it would put his scheduled return to training back by some weeks. It might have been a click-bait story, but I'm sure I read it.
Dale Self
99 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:51:33
Ha! 88 womp womp

Brian 79 and Trevor 86, it is the quality that counts. For example, we had 33% possession yesterday

Dave Abrahams
100 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:52:55
Tony (92),Yes Tony I worked in Lairds on the Windsor Castle around 1959-60 and more than likely watched the Blues at the same time, a good time to be a Blue because John Moore’s was in control then and building great teams with Johnnie Carey and Harry Catterick.

Yes Tony the last couple of games have lifted most Blues spirits and it really does make a difference to how you feel, going from Spring to Summer maybe.

Are you still following the Toffees yourself Tony? If you are I hope you are fit and well.

Barry Hesketh
101 Posted 28/09/2023 at 14:53:05
Rob @93

Goodison Park has been chosen to host England Under-21s' UEFA EURO qualifier against Northern Ireland in November.

Everton's home will welcome the Young Lions, who kick-started the defence of the crown they won in the summer with a 3-0 win over Luxembourg this month, for the game on Tuesday 21 November (7.45pm GMT).

For England Under-21s head coach Lee Carsley, the game will see a return to the Blues, where he made more than 150 Premier League appearances over a six-year spell.

And it will also be a return home for Jarrad Branthwaite, with the Everton defender selected in Carsley’s squad for September. Source Everton FC

Minik Hansen
102 Posted 28/09/2023 at 15:00:02
And as important as the win: No new injuries. And more match fitness to Harrison and the likes.
Dale Self
103 Posted 28/09/2023 at 15:05:39
I would like to add that Ian Edwards was as supportive as one could expect yesterday. He even joined Chris James in leading some fine flying fish puns in the forum. Give it time.
Frank Crewe
104 Posted 28/09/2023 at 15:29:35
It's amazing what a couple of wins can do for players confidence. Also we now have something that looks like a proper squad and not a side that picks itself because the manager had no options. Allowing the manager to pick players in their best positions instead of square pegs in round holes. Not having a bench with two old keepers, Neil Maupay, Tom Davies and an U23 or two warming it really helps as well. The option to put on subs without a drop in quality is something any PL manager needs. We have decent competition for places in the side and a good spread of youth and experience. The best part is the spine of the side is beginning to look really good. Pickford in goal, CB's Tarks and Branthwaite. CM Garner and Onana. Forwards DCL/Beto. All in all things are looking up. Two winnable home games coming up. Lets hope we can keep it going.
Raymond Fox
105 Posted 28/09/2023 at 15:32:18
Ian 94, the natives were getting restless before we beat Brentford, I was just trying to annoy a few who were voicing doubts.

We could do with a few heated arguments, its got a bit too lovey dovey on here.

John Raftery
106 Posted 28/09/2023 at 15:44:40
Craig (91) Jack Harrison impressed me with his movement, energy off the ball and quality on the ball. His passing is quick, intelligent and incisive. He also takes a decent corner, lifting the ball to the far post rather than straight into the keeper’s hands. That was a very good debut. He certainly looks well suited to the role of the wide attacker in a front three.

As he builds his fitness in the coming weeks he will give Dyche the luxury of being able to rotate his attackers from game to game and indeed within the same game.

Dave Abrahams
109 Posted 28/09/2023 at 16:39:14
John (106), Do you know if we can sign Harrison permanently at the end of his loan transfer?
Tony Sullivan
110 Posted 28/09/2023 at 17:13:39
Yes Dave @100, 'Once a Blue always a Blue', but like you recent times have been difficult on and off the pitch causing much misey, we can only hope that recent improvements on the pitch continue.
Work took me away from Merseyside for a number of years, been back for 5yrs and on the season ticket waiting list, hoping to get to Bramley Moore dock before my time is up. Best Wishes.
Brian Harrison
111 Posted 28/09/2023 at 17:35:59
Dave 109

The deal for Jack Harrison is a straight loan deal, with no option to buy. Thats the double edged sword of straight loans, if the player is a success the club who hold is registration either takes him back and possibly sells to the highest bidder or keep hold of him or tell the club he was loaned to what extortionate fee that will be needed to buy him. The other side of the coin is if he doesn't do the business you can send him back at the end of the loan deal.

Conor McCourt
112 Posted 28/09/2023 at 17:40:06

Yes it's something I found really strange that many had turned on the manager so quickly and with quite a bit of verocity.

I think part of the backlash comes from the inherent stylistic, ideological and pragmatic approach of Sean which maybe goes against our inherent DNA of pining for the school of science. In addition Sean's penchant for the tried and tested over the next generation is perhaps adverse to what many of us want to see from an Everton manager.

Once we lost a few winnable games it seems the knives were beginning to sharpen very hastily. For me this was ultra surprising given the leniancy the hapless Benitez and Lampard were given for periods of sustained woefulness

When our managerial position became available I wanted Bielsa or Hassenhutle over Dyche for many of the above reasons as I felt all three would have kept us up.

However Dyche has done a really competent job to date in my opinion. We survived last season and the only game we should have won was the Fulham fiasco but we managed to get those lost points back with the marvellous win at Brighton.

This season I feel we have been excellent and unfortunately we didn't get the points deserved which has put non-sensical pressure on a manager whose performance level seems a real step up from the last campaign. Not many teams play to the level we did against Fulham which was such a big improvement from six months previous.

Then against Arsenal he had a game plan to get a point against a really top class Arsenal side which was only undone by a move of pure class. Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up. When Ancelotti tried the same tactic against City in the Cup many who were berating Dyche were happy to accept Carlos identical approach without a muttance.

Just think if we had been able to play the Fulham and Wolves matches with the likes of DCL, Neto, Chermiti, McNeill and Harrison as options added to the fact that Danjuma wasn't really fit our points tally would be very healthy right now.

To win at a tough place like Brentford was excellent but given their circumstances it may not have been as impressive as at first sight, but backing that up last night making a team of Villas quality look so incompetent was a huge shot in the arm for me.

Whether Sean will be the manager to take us to where we want to be is still highly questionable but so far in his tenure he has hardly put a foot wrong and indeed I am once again really looking forward to games which I haven't really done since Silva was in charge and am beginning to get a connection with quite a few of the players now like with Moyes and Martin squads

Shaun Robinson
114 Posted 28/09/2023 at 17:50:30
Trevor @75 - That wasn’t me in San Diego
Barry Hesketh
115 Posted 28/09/2023 at 18:06:25
Conor @112

I think the angst and some of anger shown towards Dyche following the Arsenal encounter, was justified due to our recent history and our not unreasonable fear that Dyche might be turning into Allardyce light.

I think that the Arsenal debacle, which it was, given we have beaten them on home soil many times in the last few seasons, without resorting to defending our penalty area for 90 minutes without a decent period of attacking, and the backlash that followed, has actually brought about a positive change within the coaching staff and the squad.

There was mention that there had been a meeting where the players and staff expressed their views following the Arsenal game, and since then we've enjoyed two impressive results and a few goals to boot.

It might be coincidence or having a few more of our better players available, but I think that Dyche has possibly outlined to the players that they can't hide behind him or the tactics that he asks them to employ and it's all about the players on the park taking responsibility for their own, individual and collective performances.

Dale Self
116 Posted 28/09/2023 at 18:08:01
Mark Murphy and Charles Brewer, I apologize for the misunderstood terms for Harrison. I obviously thought we had an option and apparently did not check the final terms. 12 mill was discussed was my impression.

Here is something to make that up to you and to help those bummed out by the press doomers.

Spencer Jackson Family Zulu records classic.

Kieran Kinsella
118 Posted 28/09/2023 at 18:49:45

There is no buy option but

"Jack Harrison’s loan to Everton is “done” and as there is a release clause involved the deal “could become permanent during the loan spell”, according to Alan Myers."

So it sounds similar to the Coady deal whereby we can buy him during the loan?

Conor McCourt
119 Posted 28/09/2023 at 19:03:08
Barry I respectfully disagree. We had a great record against a pretty mediocre Arsenal side. Indeed they have only operated at this level over the last two seasons.

We managed to beat them in Sean's first match when they didn't turn up and may have felt that it was an easy three points.

I am certainly not defending Dyche's approach but we played an excellent team who really didn't look like scoring until that brilliant goal and had we got a 0-0 draw there would have been a totally different slant on proceedings.

Dave Abrahams
120 Posted 28/09/2023 at 19:19:36
Tony (110) Thanks for your reply, being an Evertonian is a way of life for me as well, hope we start seeing a lot of better days rather than good ones now and again. I hope you get that season ticket Tony, best wishes to you too.
Raymond Fox
122 Posted 28/09/2023 at 19:34:21
I think the talk of Dyche's 'style' is overstated, I don't see us humping the ball upfield.
Regardless, now we have approaching a full fit side he has players that have the skills to play on the ground stuff successfully.

If you want to win games though the manager has to figure out which is the best way of beating your opponents, theres more than one way to skin a cat.

Mark Murphy
123 Posted 28/09/2023 at 19:49:01
Paul - it was an “in joke” directed at Tony/Dave.
I’m a wool.
Dale Self
124 Posted 28/09/2023 at 19:51:27
Kieran 118, thank you for that. I thought senility was making an early bid. That was the consensus opinion when I last checked terms, I think.

Mark Murphy
126 Posted 28/09/2023 at 20:09:09
Dale, that’s all right - I was sure I’d read somewhere that we didn’t have the option on him which is why I asked if you were sure. I was quite happy with your assertion that we did, to be honest. Now I’m bereft!
No need to apologise. UTFT
Andy Meighan
127 Posted 28/09/2023 at 20:38:32
Brian 79.

Let's not get too carried away yet hey, Dyche has deserved every bit of stick he's had so far.

But the last couple of games have got me thinking, well maybe he's more tactically astute than what I've give him credit for.

Last night not for one minute did I think we were going to lose or draw that game, we were dominant from start to finish.

7 points from Luton Bournemouth and them and I really might start believing.

Onana and Garner were fantastic and them 2 have got to play together when fit.

Big shout to Harrison who considering it was his debut and first game coming back from injury was superb, his work rate was sublime added to no little skill either.

We've got to force the issue on sat, I don't want us to be one of those teams that can only play one way as shown in the last 2.

Go for goals on sat and I'm sure we'll put Luton to the sword.

Jonathan Oppenheimer
128 Posted 28/09/2023 at 20:43:49
It is a remarkable thing to see how quickly the tides can turn here on TW and spirits can go from so dour to so hopeful.

Let's go get a couple more wins to keep us moving up the table and to make Mike Gaynes a happy man.

Billy Shears
129 Posted 28/09/2023 at 20:48:00
Still buzzing on last night's result, just seeing our amazing travelling support reminded me of our Milk Cup run in '84.

So let's keep it going, eh, Blues. 💙

Craig Walker
130 Posted 28/09/2023 at 21:38:08
John @106.

Thanks a lot. I appreciate that.

Sounds promising to me.

Neil Copeland
131 Posted 28/09/2023 at 22:06:23
Another very impressive display by the team and support. I was surprised at how well we contained and bullied Villa, we made a good team loom poor as we did at Brentford.

As others have already posted, they all played well but Garner and Onana complimented each other brilliantly. Calvert-Lewin makes such a difference and we all of a sudden have a few options off the bench.

A great night, I am still hoarse today, singing your head off with an already sore throat didn't help but I wouldn't change a thing.

Got to concentrate and keep the momentum going now into the Luton game.

What a night though, met Danny as usual at the end of the game and his mate Jamie and, to really top it off, I got a ticket for the derby, yaay!

Brent Stephens
132 Posted 28/09/2023 at 22:26:48
Neil as we've met and I think you're a good egg, I'm sure you'll forgive me on this one.

When you say “Garner and Onana complimented each other brilliantly”, I have this image of Garner saying to Onana “Ooh, you're looking fetching in blue tonight!“; and Onana saying “Well, you're not looking bad yourself”.

Neil Copeland
133 Posted 28/09/2023 at 22:36:25
Brent, ooh you are awful!
Paul Ferry
140 Posted 29/09/2023 at 04:53:24
Mark M,

I wasn't being critical, and I do now remember your St Helens stories, Paul Hewitt is from there too and still lives there. I was thinking less of you than others I alluded to. Sorry for the confusion.

Mark Murphy
142 Posted 29/09/2023 at 07:38:41
No probs, Paul - I pretend I'm thick-skinned but the wool tag does get to me. I remember the Echo actually doing an article on it recently…

Anyway, here's looking forward to a good solid win and a great weekend. Hoping they don't do an “after the Lord Mayor's show”! UTFT!

Mark Murphy
143 Posted 29/09/2023 at 07:42:03
Re Paul Hewitt, I think I met him at Brighton and Palace last season, unless there's another Paul from St Helens on here? Quite possible, I've seen another Mark Murphy posting on here (very different views to my own).

So, if you read any shite from Mark Murphy on here — it's the other one!! UTFT

Rob Halligan
144 Posted 29/09/2023 at 08:05:19

It's 100% certain that there must be another Paul from S Helens on here, because it wouldn't have been Paul Hewitt you met at those games.

Tony Abrahams
145 Posted 29/09/2023 at 08:17:52
Andy @127,

I have given Dyche some stick for the way we played against Arsenal, plus the way he set up for the Man Utd and Fulham games last season, but do you genuinely think he got enough praise for keeping Everton up last season?

Someone said he had the worst points record out of any manager since Mike Walker the other week but my view is that he took over a club that was on its knees and to keep us up was an absolutely monumental achievement.

Something I definitely don't believe he has been given enough credit for.

Mark Murphy
146 Posted 29/09/2023 at 08:25:12
Cheers, Rob, he'll probably be at Palace again next month and he knows the away pub (Prince George) so I'll get his full name. Nice lad.
Frank Crewe
147 Posted 01/10/2023 at 12:04:24
Really it's our own fault. Everton do this constantly but we keep walking into it. They're struggling and we're on our way out. Then they unexpectedly win a game or two and they draw us back in. Our hopes are rising again that maybe this time it will be real. and the BAM!!! Suckered punched right on the chin yet again and down we go. A pathetic home defeat against arguably the worst side in the PL that is yet to win a match. Should we beat Bournemouth next week no doubt we'll be sticking our chins out again for the Derby. When in reality we know that Everton have about as much chance of beating Liverpool as Les Dennis does of winning this years Strictly.
If baseless optimism won matches we would be the PL runaway leaders.

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