Everton 1 - 3 West Ham Utd

Often they hurt you… but you can't stop loving them.

On the back of the West Country Blues travel woes, as is usual at present, much travel disruption. But there is always a way.

No trains from Uxbridge so I had to improvise to get to Euston. There is a coach called the Oxford Tube, which stops outside Victoria, where you can connect to Euston. Due to the usual A40 London traffic, I missed my intended train and got to Goodison late, so went straight to the ground. No time for a catch up. Sorry I didn’t get to meet up. 

I got waved in by some very kind stewards who pointed me upstairs. A bit of confusion as someone was sat in my seat. He had a ticket. I had a ticket from my official membership. Both for the same seat. Strange. Even the stewards were confused. No argument, we just asked the stewards to assist and thank you to them for sorting the situation out so we could all take our places.

I’m a fan of McNeil, but he seems to be lacking confidence and form. Keep going, lad, it will come.

I’m undecided on Harrison. He works hard but always looking to cut onto his left foot. I’d rather play players on their natural foot and side. There was one part that stuck out when he cut in because he wanted it on his left and it took the momentum out of the move.

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Onana went missing at times, but I still see potential. Maybe I’m being harsh, but our midfield, yet again, was noticeable by their absence, especially as we chased the game.

Beto missed the penalty, but I didn’t think it was that bad. A good save from the keeper is how I saw it. If Pickford saves one like that, we’re praising it. I wouldn’t mind Pickford taking the rare penalties we get. He would just smash it.

A beauty of a cross from Garner and Beto scores a beauty. I thought we’d won it. My brother argues Garner is a good right-back. I’d rather see him in the middle.

Mykolenko is becoming an easy target but had a decent game. Sometimes you just get done. Defenders’ union on my part.

Tarkowski was his usual self. Solid leadership. We had one cleared off the line that looked a dead cert.

But Branthwaite. I keep saying it every week, he simply oozes class. The best football-playing centre-back I’ve watched at Everton since John Stones. I fear we will lose him.

Manager, tactics and changes. I think Dyche has and is doing a good job in the circumstances, but what is the point in leaving the changes that late? The game was there for the taking. Dominic is an in-the-box striker.

As for the Dinosaur label, I seem to recall Ancelotti get that from some. But his instructions were for Calvert-Lewin to get in the box. I don’t mind Dyche, he’s doing his best in frustrating circumstances. Keep going, Sean, and motivate these players.

It was a decent match. End to end and we didn’t play too bad. In fact, ignoring the result and the nature of how it happened, it was a good performance in my opinion. But we increasingly sat deeper to protect the slender lead. If we had kept the momentum, we would have won that.

To lose it in the manner we did was hugely frustrating. We should have had that match buried long before the additional time.

Now is not time to be changing managers again. We have to ride this storm with what we have. At least results mostly went our way. Still 5 points clear with games to play.

I made my way to the Arkless as always. Rammed with West Ham supporters, which was a bit unpleasant. A couple of them were struggling to get to Lime Street, but I had a taxi booked turning up in 2 minutes so told them to jump in with me. They were very grateful and paid for it for which I was equally grateful for.

Well, the train journey home was entertaining, to say the least. First, having to console some poor Evertonian sat on the floor who had clearly had a few too many scoops and some more. I hadn’t really had many, but he was hammered.

Then a fight breaks out. A West Ham supporter on another West Ham spporter. Some bloke about my age and size (I’m 6 foot and 13 stone) smashed some young 17-year-old in the face and broke his glasses and nose. He was going back after him, but no one done anything. So in I went because the poor lad was about to take a proper battering.

I didn’t even know what they were arguing about, but someone had to stop it. I grabbed the aggressor and physically moved him away under arm lock and told him to calm down. I told the young man to make his way two carriages up the train and then re-took my seat.

It ended up with West Ham supporters buying me a drink and we got back to talking about football. The poor drunk Evertonian was oblivious to the event and asleep by now. I had my drink, a chat with the West Ham supporters and went to sleep. Woken up at Crewe when the Police came on board and escorted a few “Irons” off the train.

That made it a late arrival back at Euston. At least the Metropolitan line was back up and running. What a journey!

No time for self pity. Old Trafford next. Dust yourselves down. It’s Everton. Anything can happen.

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Dave Williams
1 Posted 04/03/2024 at 18:34:06
Blimey, Danny, that puts our travel woes into perspective!

Good on you for stepping in like that – not many would in these days of knife crime etc. Love your reports and I think we saw the same game!

See you at the Burnley game I hope?

John Raftery
2 Posted 04/03/2024 at 19:01:08
You could never say we leave the drama to the players, Danny. Another busy day for you on the road with hardly a dull moment. Intervening on the train in the way you did was fantastic.

On reflection, I think Saturday's general performance was better, football wise, than quite a few in matches we have drawn or won this season. But there are no points for style in football. Grinding out positive results is a necessity in our position.

I agree with you, we have to stick with Dyche. Changing the manager now would make us worse. The results will turn positive soon, providing the players and fans stick together. With four wins and a couple of draws, we will be safe.

Paul Ferry
3 Posted 04/03/2024 at 19:27:29
I thought that this was going to be about women when I read the thread title and the line below. I was sort of looking forward to reading Danny on women – make a change from the match!

Good on you for pulling that thuggish bully off the lad, Danny; hope the lad was okay and the other twat was one of the ones who got pulled off the train at Crewe.

Yes, Dyche has to stay until the end of the season. We will not go down, I have never thought that we would. But everything should be up for review over the summer, including Dyche, even more so if this long and winding takeover saga ever ends.

I thought that we played some of our best footy of the season on Saturday, in spurts. Dyche has to be questioned for sticking with particular players and the timing of his subs (and more else besides). It's simply not true that there are no alternatives, the bench, to be fair, did not look that bad at all.

Dyche is not a dinosaur but he is fecking stubborn. I do hope that he can be a little more flexible in the next couple of months or so.

Love the Oxford Tube, Danny. Always like settling in at Marble Arch, dead comfy, good wi-fi, checking out the western suburbs and on to the city of dreaming spires.


Barry Rathbone
4 Posted 04/03/2024 at 19:54:58
Everton dystopia sending a shudder down my spine and the burning question – "Why?"

Simply dreadful.

John Keating
5 Posted 04/03/2024 at 20:07:07
Well done Danny.

These days it's an easy cop-out to look the other way. It was so much easier in the '60s. Mind you, I remember coming to near fisticuffs with my best mate at Ian Callaghan's testimonial in the '70s.

He was an RS so didn't matter, we loved each other before guys loving each other meant what it means now!!! Jesus, that brought back memories…

Andrew James
6 Posted 05/03/2024 at 00:53:05
"Often they hurt you… but you can't stop loving them."

Thing is, Danny, I used to be a season-ticket holder and would make a very similar journey to yours. I simply would not bother now for a myriad of reasons. But the main one is that Everton have been serial bottlers for about a decade and it's embarrassing.

I am currently being treated for a brain tumour yet to see these millionaires take to the pitch and fail to get the basics right and think 'what is the point?' They are spineless. They don't deserve and the club no longer deserves the likes of you and I travelling a 10-hour round trip to see them go down to last-minute goals at home.

Dyche is doing my head in but then so did Benitez and Ancelotti.

It's pathetic yet, to me, for some reason, the players have been weak and flimsy year on year whoever coaches them.

I think it is safe to say I have long gone off "loving them".

Paul Ferry
7 Posted 05/03/2024 at 03:26:50
Andrew, all the best to you mate and for the years ahead of you.
Brent Stephens
8 Posted 05/03/2024 at 07:23:56
Andrew, I hope things improve to the extent that you're able to go to Goodison Park again.
Danny O’Neill
9 Posted 05/03/2024 at 07:24:56
I understand your sentiment Andrew. Brothers in arms.

More importantly, I wish you well in your challenge. Best wishes and God bless.

Dave Abrahams
10 Posted 05/03/2024 at 12:21:48
Thanks for your latest journey to see the Blues and your trip home – you could write a book about these trips and the people you meet and mostly enjoy their company.

I remember coming home from Goodison one game and a big heavy Everton fan was picking on a young cockney who was with his girlfriend, he took a smack off this fan, who was picking his mark, before any of us could help the kid another Evertonian gave the bully a “Kirkby kiss” and asked him did he want some more, he didn't.
I took the young cockney and his girlfriend along Netherfield Road and told him this was the quietest way rather than going down Scotland Road and into possibly more trouble. I put them onto a bus and told them this would take them to Lime Street station.

As for the game, we played poorly in patches but created chances in spells, enough to win the game. We are struggling at times and one big element that is missing, as one fan pointed out on here, is luck and a decent run of the ball. I know we shouldn't rely on luck but it definitely helps, a certain other team, not far away certainly get quite a lot of it along with being a good team.

Niall McIlhone
11 Posted 05/03/2024 at 12:52:34
Blimey, Danny, that was an eventful day!

You are right: Everton FC most certainly do hurt us, but the kind of hurt we have is, in my book, quite different from the malaise of the three or four clubs currently below us in the table.

Sheffield United are dire. Burnley try to play in a style which is only suited to better technical players, and lack nous and experience in defence. As for Luton, they are well motivated, organized and energetic, but again, prone to odd lapses in defence. Forest are a bit like Luton, and rely greatly on home form, and all four teams have taken heavy beatings this season.

Everton are an odd fish? We have competed well in most games home and away, having arguably been roundly beaten only twice this season; fans have grown hugely frustrated in seeing a team who, by rights, should sit mid-table, but have repeatedly shipped cheap and late goals after failing to capitalise on scoring chances, as happened against West Ham.

I am with you on the penalty taking, Danny: Pickford is a thunderous striker of the ball, and I feel he has the self-confidence to be successful. That said, I can't see us getting another penalty this season, we have had our quota, and we messed it up!

Tony Abrahams
12 Posted 05/03/2024 at 14:41:23
After all the places Danny, has been in his lifetime, then getting involved in a little skirmish on the train was nothing, but I’m still glad to be saying “blessed be the peacemaker” because it’s a very dangerous society, with plenty of lunatics roaming free.

Danny is on his second childhood, and this is what I’m hoping happens to you Andrew, once you have won the fight against such a horrible thing🤞

I agree with the people who thought Everton played well, but only up to a certain point, because it’s also clear that the team needs freshening up.

Maybe the players will be refreshed after the three week break, but there is a big game on Saturday, and we should be able to go to Manchester, with absolutely no fear of turning over United., imo.

Kevin Molloy
13 Posted 05/03/2024 at 15:00:13
I'll bet they were fighting about Moyes.
Eddie Dunn
14 Posted 05/03/2024 at 16:10:12
Well, Danny, you seem to always get some grief when you travel alongside those Eastenders (or the Essex lot, as most of them are today). Good for you helping that lad out.

On the penalty, imagine if Pickford or Tarkowski had pulled rank and taken it, only for it to be saved or sail high or wide. The very people who were slating poor Beto would have been slagging off the unfortunate player, whoever he was.

It was one of those days. However, I recall watching us under Lampard and thinking that we're simply unable to create anything and yet here we are having had 22 shots, 11 on target. Dyche can't score them for the team.

Dyche does have rather a random approach to his subs but so has every manager I can remember.

Thanks for your report – always interesting.

Oliver Molloy
15 Posted 05/03/2024 at 16:12:24
Who got the seat?
Mark Murphy
16 Posted 05/03/2024 at 16:13:57
The trouble with goalies taking penalties is that it's a long way back if the keeper saves and keeps the ball in play.
Christopher Timmins
17 Posted 05/03/2024 at 16:40:54

I agree about your view on the performance and on our young central defender. I also agree with you about the correct role for Calvert-Lewin.

Playing Calvert-Lewin in his current role is something Moyes would do and, in my view, it encourages those behind him to just hoof it up the field.

When we had Yakubu, we had to play it to his feet as he was never going to run around chasing lost causes.

Dust yourself down and go again on Saturday!

Andy Meighan
18 Posted 05/03/2024 at 17:14:32
Quite honestly, you're sugar-coating another basic performance. The first half was as bad as the Palace game and the missed chances I keep hearing about yielded one in the first half: Beto's for the penalty was disgraceful.

We had a spell after we scored where their keeper made a couple of good saves, one right at him and one from the deflection – a worldie; other than that, I'm struggling.

I don't take any positives from that showing whatsoever. If anyone is happy with that level of performance, then more fool you. I'm not getting hoodwinked by this manager and players' talk of missed chances, the week before at Brighton we scored one and Doucoure had one kicked off the line.

I said after we badly struggled against an under-strength Palace side that we won't win another home game all season and that includes Burnley and the atrocious Sheffield United.

They say you get the team you support: not true in our case – 3 home wins all season in front of the best fans in the land.

I heard Dyche's and Tarkowski's after-match interviews – not a word of apology from them, but why would they They're not arsed.

Sick to death of half-arsed performances and players who can't string 2 passes together.

Worst run since the '70s any other manager would have been run out of town by now.

Not Sean Dyche though, because – according to some – he's worked miracles… do me a fucking favour!

Danny O’Neill
19 Posted 05/03/2024 at 23:09:24
Not sure I've heard or read that he's working miracles, Andy. Just that he's done a decent job in difficult circumstances. Everyone's first choice? No. Myself included.

I've been frustrated by the tactics at times, but it wasn't too bad at Goodison against West Ham, although the collapse in additional time was frustrating.

With points back ,we should be fine. We would have been comfortable with the additional 6 points.

So the manager has done a decent job and shouldn't be slated by the club's off-the-pitch performance.

Andrew James
20 Posted 05/03/2024 at 23:20:28
Firstly, thanks for the kind regards above.

Secondly, I think my general dismay with the club and the players is bred from a deep-rooted fear that younger generations won't want to support us. We've done little to impress since the Moyes era (and that was mostly just satisfactory) while our delightful neighbours and the likes of City are going to be more appealing to younger generations.

The new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock might help of course but some of my family are turning away from going to games or even owning season tickets while others have considered going elsewhere which is unthinkable to myself.

There's no feel-good factor surrounding the club which is a shame as our fans are ridiculously loyal and passionate. The fans have been the lifeblood of Everton FC and I am worried that this season-on-season malaise will dry that up thanks to apathy and despair.

Miserable, I know, but the owners, whoever they have been, have taken our fanbase for granted. This isn't sustainable.

Ernie Baywood
21 Posted 06/03/2024 at 00:58:38
100% Andrew.

I'm raising my Evertonian kids on the other side of the world. To date, I've done a good job but it's getting harder.

And that's what winds me up. We've been rubbish before. This isn't new. But we are just so uninspiring right now. We've got nothing going for us and there isn't even a tiny bit of passion or progression.

More than ever, I'm questioning why I devote big portions of my life to this. I don't even enjoy watching us nowadays... but I keep doing it.

Andrew James
22 Posted 06/03/2024 at 01:49:33

Exactly, I liked watching us under Silva and perversely saw a lot of stuff live under Big Sam. Yet now and probably since early Ancelotti, it's been a drab experience.

You've got the other lot across the park with their energy and disingenuous coach and you wonder how many young scousers will flock to them and not us regardless of family ties? We have become an unfashionable club again which is soul destroying given how far Moyes and others took us in the early part of this century.

Danny O’Neill
23 Posted 06/03/2024 at 07:49:30

Like me and countless others, you're beyond cure and won't stop yourself! I can't, I'm an Everton fool!

I wouldn't be too concerned. We have and always will have a core base. I was talking to my sister last night. My season ticket holder nephew has been telling her that he will never watch them again after the West Ham match.

He'll be at the next home game. Guaranteed!!!

I think we're quite unique in terms of the city. My family is a mix of blues and reds often in the same household.

My observations, in the south of the city, it is more Liverpool. In the north, you see more Everton. That's a general view, not based on fact. But it is mixed.

One of my cousins worked in Kirkby for years. She is a red and always used to comment that it was an Everton stronghold. Maybe just the place she worked?

Apparently places like Widnes and Runcorn have strong Everton followings. I know our coach used to stop at Widnes to pick up and drop off quite a sizeable number of supporters.

We have supporters on this very website from various parts of the globe who found Everton. I have friends from other parts of the UK that I converted.

Whilst success is what we all want, it isn't the be-all and end-all for supporting a club. Since the '70s, there have only been two, now three dynasties. Living in London, I see the Liverpool and Manchester United shirts all the time. Interestingly, the Manchester City following hasn't caught on.

I hope this takeover saga is resolved and, whoever the new owners end up being, build the brand and make us compete. That's all I ask for. If we compete, we will get success. Then expand the fan base.

Mark Murphy
24 Posted 06/03/2024 at 08:07:34
Danny, you know me and how I feel about the Blues but like your nephew I'm struggling after the weekend. I well remember the barren '70s and gloomy trips home on a Saturday evening after a 0-0 draw or defeat and swearing “never again” only to find myself eagerly checking the fixtures for the next game. But this week feels different. I'm in despair! Saturday was a must-win game. We had to regain momentum… and we blew it.

It seems an age since I saw Calvert-Lewin's clever turn and shot at the London Stadium and trips home and away since then have resulted in crushing disappointment. I can't get over the feeling that we won't win another game. We've played shite, and we've played well – it makes no difference – we just can't win.

I remember, again in the '70s, my mate's dad predicting that sometime soon, this team (Latchford, Dobson, King etc) would batter someone, and it came to pass. If we were playing teams from the Scottish 2nd Division in the next few weeks, I wouldn't predict a flukey win, let alone a battering. Something is rotten and we are either cursed or seriously inept in every department.

I've got my ticket for Chelsea away and I'm looking at a home game again soon, but the flame is flickering. I'm tired of Everton being shit! UTFT

Danny O’Neill
25 Posted 06/03/2024 at 09:18:17
Tough times, Mark, but we'll stick in there. We know no different.

It's taken a few days, myself included, to get over what happened, even me. But it's one match. Big one coming up at the weekend.

See you at the next one friend.

Jon Harding
26 Posted 06/03/2024 at 09:38:13
I instantly thought that too, Kevin@13
Brian Harrison
27 Posted 06/03/2024 at 09:52:06
The incurable addiction, even those who have travelled to the other side of the World can't shake off the addiction. They still stream games, come on websites like this to discuss their addiction. Unfortunately there is no cure; once addicted, you are stuck with it for the rest of your life.

As Danny's post says, they often hurt you. Those of us unlucky enough to attend the games don't go there to expect some joy but attend in the knowledge that, in having this craving, we will endure untold agonies that linger long after the game has finished.

Ernie Baywood
28 Posted 06/03/2024 at 10:42:28
Brian... there's some kind of psychological study needed for sure.

I'm in the position of having kind of missed the '80s. I was there, but I was too young to take it in. Perversely I remember the Cup Final defeats to that lot vividly. That's always seemed a bit unfair to me.

But I went through tough times with hope of something better. And then Joe Royle took over a relegation bound team and months later I was at Wembley watching us win (twice!).

Other managers have given us hope. Moyes, Martinez, even the big name appointments of Koeman and Ancelotti.

Now I might just have got wiser (though I doubt that) but I can't see where this changes now. Like Danny, I've taken what I was born into and converted people on foreign shores... I'm beginning to think I've been unfair to the poor sods.

Why keep getting up at 2am to watch what we're serving up?

Brian Harrison
29 Posted 06/03/2024 at 12:03:02

I count myself one of the lucky ones as I started going to the game regularly the season we came back up to Division 1, as it was called back then. So I have seen them win leagues cups and I was lucky enough to be in Rotterdam when we won the European Cup-Winners Cup — now no longer played for.

So that's 1 European trophy that the other lot have never won and never will seeing it's been dropped by Uefa. My 2 sons have only seen us win the FA Cup and my Grandson has seen us win nothing with little likelihood that will change anytime soon. So, like you, I have passed on my addiction to my family.

Danny O’Neill
30 Posted 06/03/2024 at 12:09:56
Ernie, I lived through the late '70s wondering why I supported Everton. It got darker in the early '80s but kept going and got my rewards.

For me, apart from that brief spike under Joe Royle, the '90s were as bad as now.

Under Moyes, we were stable.

Had it not been for the Stalanistic dictatorship and unreasonable punishment, we'd be stable now.

Keep going' Ernie. I think I've talked my nephew down from giving up!! And his dad and two brothers are Kopites!!

Neil Tyrrell
31 Posted 07/03/2024 at 21:18:35
I became an Evertonian in the mid-'70s, the only blue sheep in a family of reds. Even back then at 8 or 9 years old, their sense of entitlement didn't sit well with me so I went the other way. It as a long time ago but think it was an FA Cup run that hooked me. Then Super Latch came along. I do wonder why anyone would choose Everton these days though, it's slim pickings. But I never question my own choice.

My late brother's birthday today, he would have turned 59 but passed a decade ago, and he was the reddest of the RS, never missed a chance to get a dig in. Even his lads (both around 30 now) recognized how horrible the RS were/are and support other teams, sadly not Everton though. Spent a great day with his oldest around the West Ham away match mentioned by Mark above, including meeting Mark and Danny.

Excuse the ramble, I'm having a few remembering my brother. Thanks for another enjoyable report, Danny.

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