Season › 2023-24 › News FAB submit 25-page document setting out fan impacts 19/01/2024 8comments | Jump to last As a response to the pending appeal of Everton's 10-point deduction for breaching P&S Rules, the Fan Advisory Board have submitted a 25-page document to both Everton and the Premier League to outline a supporters’ case for the impact of any punishment. Drafted with advice from barrister Matthew Stanbury, it calls on top-flight chiefs to ‘consider the true impact and consequences’ that sanctions will have on the fanbase. Dave Kelly, chair of the FAB, said: “Since the failed European Super League proposals, we’ve seen positive steps made to give fans a greater say in their football clubs, with frequent promises from the footballing authorities and others to put fans at the heart of the game. “The scale of the Premier League commission’s sanction sent shockwaves throughout the global Everton fanbase, mainly due to the disproportionate nature of the sanction, but also the lack of consideration for those most affected – supporters – and our local community. Article continues below video content “The response to this injustice from Evertonians has been immense. “Whilst we accept that Everton has a case to answer, the lack of transparency in the process, fairness and consistency with other findings, resulting in a wholly disproportionate sanction in this case, should act as a warning signal to fans of every club. “This isn’t just an Everton issue; it is an issue for the wider football community. “We hope our statement goes some way to explaining why the voice of supporters is critical to the future success and sustainability of our game, and we kindly ask the Appeal Board to give its full and careful consideration.” Reader Comments (8) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Brian Wilkinson 1 Posted 19/01/2024 at 14:07:58 They were quick to defend the breakaway Super League failure, saying it's not the fans' or teams' fault, why should they be punished.We need to argue the same case that we are being punished through no fault of our own. Dave Waugh 2 Posted 19/01/2024 at 15:10:46 The absence of any consultation with the fans is simply staggering. Their website is littered with references to the importance of fans and indeed their reason for not handing a points deduction to the Sly 6 was because it would have been 'unfair to the fans'!!!! Their failure to consult with Everton fans is yet another example of a flawed and poorly defined process by a major sports governing body! Michael Kenrick 3 Posted 19/01/2024 at 15:14:28 Nice to see Matt Stanbury getting involved and helping them craft this, I was quite impressed with his contributions. Pity they are on Twitter, which drives me mad.On that topic, online comments only make any sense for me if they are in chronological order, yet half the time, that option (the 'Latest' button) isn't even there. And there is just so much ancillary crap to wade through… David West 4 Posted 19/01/2024 at 20:20:05 It's hard to think that most of this 25-page document will be disregarded by the panel and the Premier League. I hope I'm wrong as it's a testament to what this club means to so many, and a lot of hard work has gone into it. The parts about the wider impact of the deduction affecting the community, regeneration and jobs is so important. The fact that the stadium could be the very thing that makes us profitable and sustainable and yet we are being being punished on a technicality over a £19.5M allowable expense or not should be taken into account. As the document says, the league should be encouraging developments to help sustain clubs. Not punishing clubs for their aspirations. Yes, we know a punishment is deserved under the rules, a proportionate punishment that fits the meagre (in Premier League term) £19.5M breach. Brent Stephens 6 Posted 19/01/2024 at 21:55:55 A document that goes into some length discussing:1. the nature of the FAB; 2. the history of EFC; 3. the club's values; 4. the club's fan base; 5. the new stadium project; 6. the government review of football governance (and its reference to sanctions avoiding unfairly impacting fans); 7. the sanction (the West Ham sanction and again avoidance of unfairly impacting fans; jeopardising a club's viability through severe sanctions; the ECJ principle of sanctions being transparent, objective, precise, and non-discriminatory; the apparent anomaly of a lesser nine-point sanction for insolvency; the delay in investigations into more serious cases [Man City].So Section 7 gets to the nub of the issue, covering issues which have, I think, all been covered on ToffeeWeb. That's not to diminish the value of this document (but to note the standard of contributions on ToffeeWeb) or the work that has gone into it (there is also an impressive series of detailed appendices). The more there are well-written and well-reasoned contributions such as this, the better. Tony Abrahams 7 Posted 20/01/2024 at 10:29:29 I wasn't sure what to expect when Dave Kelly joined the FAB because, like a lot of people, I hold a bit of cynicism in my mind with regards certain things. I personally thought that this FAB was just a token gesture by the club. (It probably was but maybe some of the people who joined had other ideas?) "Surely he's not going to be another one going under the Kenwright umbrella?" – That was definitely a thought that crossed my mind (if you're reading this, sorry, Dave). But it did leave me concerned because, deep down, I genuinely 100% believe that it was KEIOC who helped preserve the long-term future of Everton Football Club when they beat Everton's millionaire lawyers and Tesco's billionaire lawyers in the courtroom. I was surprised that someone who was part of what I consider to have been a great movement was prepared to be part of what I considered tokenism.The Everton FAB could hopefully end up growing into something special once we get in new owners who will hopefully appreciate rather than play the fans. And especially if Dave's new mob can help Everton in a similar way to his old gang who definitely helped preserve our long-term future (again, imo) because they possessed both a real vision and a genuine love for Everton Football Club that didn't resolve around themselves, or power or money. ðŸ‘🙠Peter Mills 8 Posted 20/01/2024 at 22:29:41 Many supporters were crying out for their voices to be heard, yet the creation of the FAB was condemned by a fair proportion of the fan base as a cosy talking shop. It seems to have a little more militancy than that. The woman sitting behind Masters at the hearing this week was magnificent with her understated body language, and this document is a well-crafted appeal for a degree of clemency. I have seen Dave Kelly in action at the Casa in Hope Street a few years ago, he is a strong leader for the group - more power to them. Hans Fyhrqvist 9 Posted 21/01/2024 at 22:38:15 This is a magnificent contribution to defend Everton´s case before the Premier League´s Appeal Board.The Everton Fan Advisory Board, led by Dave Kelly, have really shown how capable and knowledgeable, and also defiant and unyielding, the Evertonians are when they are protecting their club and their fans and their local community. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb