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Jarrad Branthwaite has been included along with Jordan Pickford in Gareth Southgate's 33-man England provisional squad ahead of Euro 2024 in Germany next month.

Branthwaite's selection comes as just reward for a remarkable season of excellent defensive displays from the young defender in what was his first full season in the Premier League.

He was called up during the last international break of the season but was, somewhat surprisingly, left as an unused substitute by Southgate.

This 33-man selection, which also includes former Everton forward Anthony Gordon, will be whittled down to 26 following the friendlies against Bosnia-Herzegovina and Iceland on 3 and 7 June.

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Among those not selected are Marcus Rashford, Jordan Henderson, Reece James, Ben Chilwell, Dominic Solanke, Eric Dier, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling and Ben White.


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Michael Lynch
1 Posted 21/05/2024 at 12:35:23
Branthwaite has been named in the England squad so he will be mixing with players from the clubs that might want to buy him.

It will be hard for him not to have his head turned to some extent, but I can't see him actually agitating for a move unless a really big team comes in.

Tom Bowers
2 Posted 21/05/2024 at 13:05:01
Branthwaite yes but Quansah, gimee a break.

As usual Southgate has some dross in his squad but hasn't Garner shown as much as Jones if not more in a struggling team.

Then of course he has to pick the brownnoser Henderson who is way past his best.

Half the squad picks itself but the rest is a joke.

Rob Halligan
3 Posted 21/05/2024 at 13:31:38
Didn’t even know Quansah was English.
Michael Kenrick
4 Posted 21/05/2024 at 14:11:02

Then of course he has to pick the brownnoser Henderson who is way past his best.

I think he's one of the many 'names' who have actually been left out, Tom.

Steve Brown
5 Posted 21/05/2024 at 14:39:41
Not really bothered about England, but you have to say that we have a great range of forwards in the squad.
Alan McGuffog
6 Posted 21/05/2024 at 15:03:26
Well that's that then. All the best Jarrad here's hoping we get top dollar
Mick O'Malley
7 Posted 21/05/2024 at 15:03:46
How did Curtis Jones make the squad?

It would be a travesty if Jarrad doesn't make the final squad, he's been as good as anyone at centre half this season.

Christy Ring
8 Posted 21/05/2024 at 15:06:24
Branthwaite deserves his place in the squad, but when you see Maguire, Quansah and Gomes picked and Tarkowski over looked, who had a superb season and Trippier picked ahead of James, shows why Southgate will win nothing because he’s way too conservative.
Will Mabon
9 Posted 21/05/2024 at 15:26:20

agreed re. Tarkowski. Compare his season to Maguire; how does that follow? Maguire's best is far in the past and he's now such a bag of nerves I doubt he'll ever recover.

Whilst omitting some that needed to be, Southgate still has default go-to players that he won't let go.

Jarrad had a great season personally but just as importantly, in a great partnership too, one of the league's best.

Maybe it's a height thing?

Mark Ryan
10 Posted 21/05/2024 at 15:28:54
I'm made up for Jarrad and for Everton to have representation in the England set up alongside Jordan. UTFT's
John Keating
11 Posted 21/05/2024 at 15:31:49
Fully agree with posters.
Tarks has been immense for us this season and without doubt is as good, if not better, than the dross chosen by Southgate.

Having formed a great partnership with the left footed Branthwaite seems a great opportunity in a starting 11

However as we are not a big team maybe we should be eternally grateful Branthwaite is named

Kevin Prytherch
12 Posted 21/05/2024 at 15:43:52
What is it with lob-sided England squads…

8 centre-backs, 1 injured left-back and 2 right-backs. I know some of the centre backs can play left back – but why play players out of position when he could have called up specialist left-backs?

Jarrad Branthwaite (Everton) CB
Lewis Dunk (Brighton) CB
Joe Gomez (Liverpool) CB
Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace) CB
Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa) CB
Harry Maguire (Manchester United) CB
Jarell Quansah (Liverpool) CB
Luke Shaw (Manchester United) LB (injured)
John Stones (Manchester City) CB
Kieran Trippier (Newcastle) RB
Kyle Walker (Manchester City) RB

Jamie Crowley
13 Posted 21/05/2024 at 16:01:20
Branthwaite should start. Really that simple.

He won’t because Southgate doesn’t have the fortitude to do so.

He can’t be traded. We have to keep him. If he goes he needs to fetch $100 million. And no that figure is not overly adventurous. Hold firm Everton if you sell him. Take only top dollar. Oh, and, don’t sell him!!!

Mark Taylor
14 Posted 21/05/2024 at 16:21:17
Agree with Jamie on this, don't sell Jarrod. Which means keeping 777 at bay because he will be the first to go if they get control.

Would also agree that while midfield and attack look well stocked, it's a very mediocre defence. Shame they haven't persuaded Ben White to change his mind because he's better than most if not all of the rest (except Jarrod...)

I hope Southgate ends up at Man U and we can see his actual level- another of their managerial flops...

Jay Harris
15 Posted 21/05/2024 at 16:38:26
To pick Dunk, Gomez and Maguire ahead of Tarkowski is an absolute joke.

And as for Trippier and Shaw, if we can’t do better that, then I am lost for words. Mitchell has had a great season as has Ben White, Livramento and Rico Lewis.

Julian Exshaw
16 Posted 21/05/2024 at 17:20:30
You could argue Everton had the best centre back partnership in the PL last season and they both happen to be English! Maguire is picked simply because he plays occasionally for Man Utd. There is no other reason and even that doesn't make sense.
Danny O’Neill
17 Posted 21/05/2024 at 17:20:51
Although I don't do the England thing, I'm pleased for Jarrad, he deserves it. He's been near flawless this season.

Call me paranoid, but I always get a sense of trepidation when good Everton players get called up to the England squad…

David Currie
18 Posted 21/05/2024 at 17:22:41
Jarrod should be starting for England, how he didn't get a mention for young player of the year was an insult. He is top class, glad to see Henderson finally dropped but should have happened when he went to Saudi!
Would like to see Stones and Jarrod together for England.
James Hughes
19 Posted 21/05/2024 at 17:26:08
I have said it on few threads.
If we sell Braintwaite,then it is pitchfork and torches and a trip to Monaco to visit Farhad
Anthony Dove
20 Posted 21/05/2024 at 18:29:55
Delighted for him. Just hope he makes the final 26.

I see Wharton (ex Blackburn) from Palace is in as well. He played really well against us at Goodison, and even in our present state you would have to think it's one that got away.

Bobby Mallon
21 Posted 21/05/2024 at 18:34:03
He's also on sale with a price tag of £80 million.
Bobby Mallon
22 Posted 21/05/2024 at 18:39:05
Oh and if he thinks Man Utd is his place, he's wrong. He is too good for them… far too good.
Brian Harrison
23 Posted 21/05/2024 at 18:46:58
Well deserved and I hope he is in the final 26.
David West
24 Posted 21/05/2024 at 18:54:47
Sometimes I think England are too quick to dismiss players once they hit 29 - 30. Youth is a great thing, but you can't overestimate the value of experience.

I believe it's why we haven't won a tournament for so long.
Italy, France & Brazil always have a couple of wise old heads in their teams. Trippier, Stones, Walker and Pickford to an extent all have it in them to step up.

Southgate definitely has his squad in mind now, I'm not sure if Branthwaite will make it, however I believe he is the natural successor to Stones. I'd rather he rested as I believe he won't be 3rd or 4th choice anyway.

Maybe now these players have gained experience, it will come good, but if not, don't rip up the team for the World Cup.

David West
26 Posted 21/05/2024 at 18:56:32
I can see Pep coming for Branthwaite, to take Stones's place.

City vs Utd bidding war??

Mihir Ambardekar
27 Posted 21/05/2024 at 19:27:55
Lewis Dunk is below average followed by Harry Maguire. How is Joe Gomez in the squad who is more of a substitute!

Tarkowski deserves to be in that squad. It seems Southgate is looking at players who have good passing abilities rather than having a good leader and tough defender in the squad.

Paul Ferry
28 Posted 21/05/2024 at 19:34:07
Confirmed Ian. Why leave Chelsea for Man Utd? The clue might be that flaky nutty Yank owner.

Some very poor results over the season but Chelsea had a very good April and May - 2 defeats in 16 - and squeezed into Europe. Crazy. Munich, possibly?

Dupont (2), I hope that you are never in a position where your valuation of footy players really matters! I'm still chuckling at £15M for Keane.

If it is left to Moshiri it will be sell, sell, sell with no evident strategy or analysis: present not future.

Derek Knox
29 Posted 21/05/2024 at 19:39:25
Mihir, totally agree.

While Jarrad has been outstanding, so has Tarkowski. I believe he has been invaluable to both the team and Jarrad's development.

I hope they both stay with us, for as long as possible.

Alastair Donaldson
30 Posted 21/05/2024 at 20:05:29
It is a recognition for a very impressive season for Jarrad Branthwaite.

Southgate was a centre-back, so it might explain four sets of them… but honestly!

I guess all teams sell players to bigger teams at some point, but Jarrad will learn more of his trade with us, certainly there'll be more defending to do!

If he moves, he's worth more than the £80M Man Utd paid for Maguire, let's hope our owners understand that.

Hope he does well if selected anyway.

Billy Shears
31 Posted 21/05/2024 at 20:06:03
Congratulations to the lad, he's been superb this season. Kudos to the scouts for getting him from the lower leagues.

More of the same in future, please.

Germany to win the Euros... I've got 50 notes on them!

Mike Gaynes
32 Posted 21/05/2024 at 20:07:58
DK, agree. I believe Tarkowski deserves considerable credit for Jarrad's development defensively.

Tarkowski is as close to positionally perfect as any centre-back I have ever seen -- that's why he always leads the league in blocked shots -- and as the season went on, Jarrad's positioning got better and better.

Early days, we were dazzled by Jarrad's recovery speed. Later in the season, we almost never saw it. Why? Because he didn't need to recover as often. He was reading the game and getting ahead of the play.

Tarkowski is the master of that, and I think Jarrad learned his lessons from him.

John Keating
33 Posted 21/05/2024 at 20:10:28
I think Wharton at Palace has a great future. He gets about the pitch, wins the ball, moves on.

I reckon he'll become better than Gana and Rice combined.

Billy Shears
34 Posted 21/05/2024 at 20:19:40
Agree John, the lad Wharton gets better with each passing game. He could be a good future English pairing at the back with young Branthwaite too.

I am sure Palace could cause a few surprises next season if they can keep hold of their players (tough ask like).

Mike Gaynes
35 Posted 21/05/2024 at 20:20:38
John #34, Wharton was the best signing anybody made in the January window, no contest. And he's 20.

But topping Gana defensively would be quite a leap. Remember in his first year with us, Gana led Europe in both tackles and interceptions.

Danny O’Neill
36 Posted 21/05/2024 at 20:20:51
I couldn't put it better, Mike.

Mentored by Tarkowski, combined with his natural ability and his reading and anticipation of the game.

A special player.

Robert Tressell
37 Posted 21/05/2024 at 20:31:29
I think England has its strongest group of players for years, possibly ever in my memory (which goes back to Italia 90).

Which is why it puzzles me that the likes of Dunk, (FFS) Gomez, Konsa, (FFS) Quansah and (FFS) Jones have been included.

We seem to have missed Tomori and Loftus-Cheek who both performed strongly for 2nd place AC Milan and must surely merit a place ahead of a couple of Liverpool reserves. Angel Gomes (Lille) and Jadon Sancho (brilliant recently for Dortmund) make a talented quartet of overlooked players playing overseas. Gibbs-White is unlucky too - he should be miles ahead of Curtis Jones.

Kieran Kinsella
39 Posted 21/05/2024 at 21:00:39

I was thinking the same. Southgate seems to have an aversion to picking players playing in other leagues.

Granted you can argue those leagues aren't as tough as the Premier League but playing Champions League football and winning a title with Milan last year is surely more noteworthy than what Henderson has done the last 2 years until he has finally been dropped now.

As for Jones I thought a few years back when he first appeared he was impressive but to my mind he has stagnated into a Tom Davies type.

Christy Ring
40 Posted 21/05/2024 at 21:01:18
Weren't we looking at Wharton for ages, but couldn't afford the £18.5M, and Man City eyeing up Branthwaite, and 115 charges pending, including 7 for PSR.

Such hypocrisy, but as George Orwell said, we are all equal but some are more equal than others??

Roger Helm
41 Posted 21/05/2024 at 21:08:46
Good comment, Mike.

It reminds me of when SAF sold Jaap Stam because he wasn't making as many tackles, only for him to go on to have a good career in Italy because his positioning was a lot better.

Peter Mills
42 Posted 21/05/2024 at 21:22:42
All our defenders have been superbly assisted by our midfield this season. McNeil has worked his socks off, as has Harrison – I suspect there is far more in an attacking capacity from him than we have seen.

Someone posted a few days ago that “he has failed his audition”. On the contrary, he has sacrificed a lot for the team. Our attack has suffered as a result.

This midfield effort has allowed Tarkowski to shine, playing deep, making his blocks and headers. I think he would struggle in top-level international football, however.

Branthwaite? He can play at any level.

Dave Cashen
43 Posted 21/05/2024 at 21:30:28
Jarrad learning from Tarkowski?

Tarkowski deserves all the credit he has received for his performances in these relegation battles, I honestly believe we would have lost them without him, but he will never be looked at by the top clubs and he will never be considered for England again.

He has always been great at marshalling a team which has nine or even ten men focused on defending. But put him in a back three or four and he will have to play far higher up the pitch. His poor first touch will be exposed and so will his susceptibility to darting pace and quick feet.

Tarkowski has become great a great stopper and inspirational character playing the game we have become accustomed to but, unlike Jarrad. I don't see him being invited (or paid) to go and play real football.

Dale Rose
44 Posted 21/05/2024 at 22:19:43
Mixed feelings about Branthwaite going to the Euros. He deserves it, but I think it will speed up any potential moves to buy him.

Very disappointed that Tarkowski has not been included. No lover of Southgate at all.

Brian Wilkinson
45 Posted 21/05/2024 at 23:16:24
Made up, fully deserved.

In regards to clubs wanting him, he is an Everton player, has signed a new contract last season. He is worth more to us than any money that comes in for him

Do what Man City do – keep hold of the player, might get another points deduction but keeping him will more than make up any points deduction.

We already let Richarlison and Gordon go; time to dig our heels in and say Not for Sale and learn from the mistake of selling players and still getting a points deduction.

Don Alexander
46 Posted 21/05/2024 at 23:54:15
First, well done Jarrad.

Second, well done Marcel Brands - well done indeed. Jarrad was exactly the type of player a DoF was expected to sign, and still is in massively more constricted times, and not the conveyor belt of obscenely overpaid non-entities signed by Moshiri & Kenwright, who took little or no notice of their very own DoF.

Third, Moshiri, 777 Partners, and God knows who else are to be the future of Everton Football Club, nothing but asset strippers, and selling Jarrad right now will be their aim – with others to follow.

If Brands had a horrible hand of cards to play with courtesy of the Dickhead Duo to whom he had to answer, Thelwell now has a way, way worse hand to play.

Alan J Thompson
47 Posted 22/05/2024 at 05:45:21
I've not watched England play for some years now but perhaps Southgate picks those players he thinks will more easily fit into his system, as it seems do most managers, and maybe he believes that outstanding young talent should be included at the very least as encouragement.

As for Tarkowski, yes, he has done well for us but Dave Cashen (#43) sums it up perfectly for me.

Danny O’Neill
48 Posted 22/05/2024 at 07:13:38
Tarkowski and Branthwaite are different entities, but work well as a partnership.

One is the leader and throws his body on the line, blocking.

The other is a rarity. A classy defender, composed on the ball, anticipates danger and reads the game.

It is hard to believe Jarrad is still only 21 when you watch him.

Sam Hoare
49 Posted 22/05/2024 at 07:27:12
The cost of Kenwright's and Moshiri's mistakes runs deep indeed.

Of course there is the obvious issue of putting the whole club in danger of administration. But then, to add insult to injury, we will have to lose stars like Branthwaite quicker than we would have and have been unable to afford players like Wharton who a few years back I reckon may well have ended up at Everton over Palace.

Though we have been poor at picking up Championship players recently, I still wince at the summers that we bought Doucoure or Allan for more money than Eze cost (different players perhaps) or spent £14M on Nathan Patterson whilst overlooking Michael Olise for an absolute bargain at £8M!

Tony Abrahams
50 Posted 22/05/2024 at 07:42:34
I thought it was David Unsworth who first spotted Branthwaite, Don?

Brands was absolutely perfect for Everton though. The first words he uttered after arriving at the club, was that “money can make you lazy”, which was probably the most honest thing he said (about himself) before adopting an, “if you can't beat them, join them” attitude.

Derek Knox
51 Posted 22/05/2024 at 08:26:31
Tony @ 50, spot on again mate in my opinion anyway.

Yes, Brands getting the plaudits for someone else's recommendations. I doubt if Brands even knew where Carlisle was, let alone go and watch them when Jarrad was there.

How often does that happen in life, as well as in football?

Dave Cashen
52 Posted 22/05/2024 at 08:36:21
I laughed at that too, Tony. He hadn’t even seen him play.

In fairness the people at Carlisle have told us that Brands acted swiftly on the recommendations of his staff. Other clubs delayed. they wanted to see more.

Truth be told, Brands squandered hundreds of millions on transfers and direct quotes can be sourced to prove it was his idiotic promises of untold riches to people like Mina and Delph which compounded the problem, leaving us with a staggering and possibly fatal wage bill.

Three fatal mistakes were made by Moshiri: Keeping Kenwright on; hiring Walsh; then hiring Brands. £750M to go backwards.

We have all been around long enough to know a good owner can send a club north every bit as quickly as a bad one can send it south. Let’s hope we find one.

Tony Waring
53 Posted 22/05/2024 at 09:12:12
If Jarrad is under contract for another couple of seasons, I believe we should hang on to him. He's worth more to us than millions of quid which we could probably realise in a couple of years anyway, as he will only improve with experience.
George Cumiskey
54 Posted 22/05/2024 at 09:25:16
The most glaring fatal mistake Moshiri made was signing Koeman, he was never interested in the job and only took it because of the unbelievable salary we offered.

He so completely destroyed the club that we're still feeling the effects to this day.

Danny O’Neill
55 Posted 22/05/2024 at 10:11:17
George, in hindsight, we could have not have employed Mke Walker.

I agree with your view. He was reluctant and didn't really seem bought in.

Sam Hoare
56 Posted 22/05/2024 at 11:03:05
I don't remember liking Koeman at all but if you look at his record at Everton it actually wasn't so bad.

He managed 1.47 points per game which was the second most of any manager since 1990, behind only David Moyes.

In his first season he came 7th with 61 points (something we'd all give our back teeth for now) but then the following summer was one of the most terrible transfer windows any club has ever had as we spent a whopping great £130m on Sigurdsson, Keane, Pickford and Klaasen whilst also bringing in Rooney on big wages meaning we had 4 number tens (Rooney, Sigurdsson, Klaassen and Barkley) but no decent or fit wingers.

Certainly that transfer window was when things really started going south for Everton but I wonder how much of that was Koeman's doing? The team struggled to gel consequently and he was sacked after a poor start though it was a pretty tough fixture list (Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal) with the only real anomaly being defeat against Sean Dyche's Burnley at home.

I never liked Koeman and he never seemed that invested but looking back at his record I wonder if he was hard done by? Certainly the transfer business done during his tenure was horrific but his results on the pitch were not quite so bad in retrospect.

Trevor Powell
57 Posted 22/05/2024 at 11:12:53
I do not want Branthwaite anywhere near the England set-up for at least 2 years. Why? Because how many players are seduced there by players from other clubs, who are in cahoots with their agents' instructions!

Did Beckham get to Rooney and others too – Stones, Lescott etc? Further to that, will the England management team be on backhanders to encourage great young players to move to the ESL traitor clubs?

Sean Mitchell
58 Posted 22/05/2024 at 11:35:12
Tarkowski being overlooked is a disgrace.

Slabhead picked ahead of him. Says it all. England won't win the Euros under Wokegate.

I hope they do for Pickford, but sadly can't see it. Obviously for Jarrad if he goes, too.

France to win it.

Dave Roberts
59 Posted 22/05/2024 at 13:36:39
As well as being great defensively, there are goals and assists in Tarkovski's game. When you're included in an England squad, you're really being invited to join a clique and, if you don't suit the ground rules, you don't get invited. Certain rules apply.

Everything else being equal, if you play for a 'big club' you get the call rather than a player from a 'small club'. And then, once you're in the clique, it takes a jemmy to be prised out of it, hence, the likes of Maguire and Henderson being retained long after any usefulness to the squad had evaporated.

Mark Taylor
60 Posted 22/05/2024 at 14:32:27
Talking of other clubs' players, it's good to see that Eze got in as well as Wharton (who we could have bought less than a year ago for much less than we paid for Beto or Onana).

I hear that England could also have got Olise, arguably even better than Eze, he qualifies for us despite playing for France at U18 and U21. But we left it too late to register him. I think he's a big upgrade on Grealish and Maddison.

Credit to Palace, what with the above 3, Guehi, Henderson, even Mateta now coming good, they've made some shrewd acquisitions.

Trevor Powell
61 Posted 22/05/2024 at 18:54:01
Are we looking at the Hearts striker, Lawrence Shankland, aged 28, who has been banging them regularly for Steven Naismith, one of us!

This could be a great arrangement loan out Holgate et al in some swap loan deals! Keane and Holgate for Shankland for a season!


Christy Ring
62 Posted 22/05/2024 at 20:53:53
Sam #56,

In my opinion Koeman wasn't hard done by, it was Moshiri's biggest mistake, bringing him in and giving him a blank cheque book.

He definitely signed Sigurdsson, offering more and more money all over the summer to get him in the end for a ridiculous fee, and signed Klaasen who played in the same position, and he signed Schneiderlin, sold Lukaku, our only striker, and stayed on the golf course, without bringing a no.9, having signed three No 10s, and the new season starting.

He's up there as one of our worst managers.

Sam Hoare
63 Posted 22/05/2024 at 22:27:52
Christy@62, as I said there's no doubt our transfer business under Koeman was horrendous.

What's less clear is how involved Koeman was in transfers or how much he was leaving it to Walsh, Moshiri and Kenwright; certainly he seemed happier on the golf course than watching scouting videos but who knows. On the pitch his results were not nearly as bad as some of his successors.

Kieran Kinsella
64 Posted 22/05/2024 at 22:33:59

There was an interesting interview with Jagielka about a month saying how he knew Koeman wouldn't work out because his training consisted of him telling Jags and co to make sweeping 60 yard pin point passes (eg the things he did as a player) and couldn't understand that they were incapable of doing the same. Obviously that's just one perspective from one player who maybe had an inferiority complex? But it's one of the few times I've heard Moyes era players criticizing a boss along with Osman saying they never did fitness work with Martinez and just passed through every training session.

Derek Thomas
65 Posted 22/05/2024 at 23:01:28
Koeman; I don't know which was the worst of his sins.

His statement in the the press more or less demanding the Board back him over wanting to buy Schniderlin.

His red and white Christmas 🎄 tree.

Or his treatment of Niase - although the look on his tulip munching grid when those goals went in was priceless.

There are plenty (well some) who would have Moyes or Martinez back, strangely enough not so many calling for Koeman...I wonder why?

He did give Lookman his debut, but as we have just seen, some mature later not earlier.

Ron Marr
66 Posted 22/05/2024 at 23:34:48
Sam 56,

He managed 1.47 points per game which was the second most of any manager since 1990, behind only David Moyes.

Don't know where you're getting your numbers from but Ancelotti and even Martinez had a better Win % and points % than both Moyes and Koeman

Everton Managers

Jay Harris
67 Posted 22/05/2024 at 00:07:34

It is fairly widely accepted that Koeman was not allowed to get the players he wanted. Sigurdson was a Moshiri buy, Rooney a Kenwright buy after telling Lukaku he could go even though he was still under contract and Koeman in a typically dutch way said if you all want to run the club I might as well go play golf.

In his first season we had one of the best finishes at that time but then the dumb and dumber interference started.

Danny O’Neill
68 Posted 23/05/2024 at 06:32:50
As I have previously said, that was the pre-season when Walsh, Kenwright and Moshiri all went shopping without talking to each other or working to a strategy and came back with different sweets.

Koeman did always seem reluctant and took some convincing to come to Everton.

Great player though. He had a rocket shot on him.

The Dutch are notoriously hard and straight talking. I've worked with many. They don't mess around or mix their words.

Sam Hoare
69 Posted 23/05/2024 at 07:24:39
Ron@70, Ancelotti came after Koeman so at the time he had the second best record. Points% is weirdly different to points per game, the list I saw had Koeman scoring 1.48 PPG and Martinez at 1.47, though another list I just found has Martinez at 1.53. Statistics eh?!

Either way Koeman's results on the pitch were not quite as bad as I remembered them.

Mike Gaynes
70 Posted 23/05/2024 at 07:35:16
Jay #72, actually, Sigurdsson was an Usmanov buy.

But Christy is 100% correct about Koeman. He's a stiff-necked, lazy-ass loser who went through a dozen jobs in 21 years, never lasting more than two seasons outside the Dutch league. He barely won more than half his games at Barca and has done the same with the Dutch national team.

Chris James
71 Posted 23/05/2024 at 09:31:10
To be honest, I think this is inevitable but also positive on two fronts:

1. He can see that (like Pickford) he can have an international career whilst still at Everton;

2. If, as is sadly likely, we have to sell him in the summer, a run out at Euros will add a few quid to the price tag.

Rob Jones
72 Posted 23/05/2024 at 10:07:33
Koeman's points-per-game is far less relevant in assessing his tenure than the amount of money he spent, and the long-term damage he dealt to the club, the amount of effort he put in, his time on the golf course, etc.

Not every player or manager buys in. They're not fans. We don't need buy-in. What we do need, and should demand, is 100% while they're paid employees. Koeman never did so. We're still living with the legacy of all the damage wrought at that time.

David West
73 Posted 23/05/2024 at 10:22:07
Branthwaite may not really have a choice if we are desperate for cash at the time of any bids.

I'd hope he'd see getting in the England squad and not playing, that his development would be best served playing every week at Everton, where he's a vital player, loved by his manager and fans, trusted , settled and improving every week.
He's still young, does he roll the dice now and risk joining one of the clubs who are in transition?
Chelsea, utd, Newcastle, Rs ( no please ) all are in difficult moments.
I belive its not quite the time to move to one of these teams, so hopeful we get another year, but who could blame the lad if city or Arsenal come for him.
If I was his advisor, I'd advise unless one of these 2 come this year for you, stay at Everton and then see what happens. 🤞

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