I hope Friedkin appoints Thomas Frank as our new manager
Seeing as it looks like Man Utd are about to appoint the Sporting Lisbon manager, I hope Friedkin comes in soon and appoints Thomas Frank as our new manager.
The question many will ask is why would Frank come here rather than stay at Brentford?
There are two reasons: he will be paid considerably more here than at Brentford as well as being given more money to spend. The other reason is moving into a state-of-the-art new stadium with the backing of 50,000 Evertonians.
Frank has learnt his trade in starting with managing the Danish U16 then U18 teams. Went on to manage Brondby and did a good job there. Then came to Brentford as an assistant and when the then manager moved on they appointed Frank.
They were still in the Championship but very quickly he got them into the final play-off for promotion, which they lost. But he had them back qualifying for promotion to the Premier League.
The reasons to choose Frank: first, his teams play on the front foot regardless of the opposition. Guardiola commented that Brentford put Man City under more pressure at the Etihad than any other team in the league.
He is also a straight-talking manager so everybody is clear about his style and formation, which he isn't afraid to change when needed.
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2 Posted 29/10/2024 at 10:18:47
He is also capable of making decisions within the game as opposed to, a hand-over-mouth, 30-minute, rock, paper, scissors session with the two hard-boiled eggs…
Oh too late, whistle has gone!
3 Posted 29/10/2024 at 10:27:03
He can do in-game changes – how refreshing he would be?
4 Posted 29/10/2024 at 10:50:05
If Thomas Frank is offered the job, he will take it.
5 Posted 29/10/2024 at 11:13:58
If he got offered Everton, he might take it. He's comfortable at Brentford, but maybe he will question what else he can achieve?
The only reservation I have is we've seen the likes of Walker and Potter achieve relative success at smaller regional clubs, only to feel the expectation of a bigger club.
If, well when, we change manager, I wouldn't turn my nose at him if he was willing to come to Everton.
6 Posted 29/10/2024 at 11:38:18
People seem to not realize how far we've fallen.
7 Posted 29/10/2024 at 11:45:41
He might not come at the drop of a hat, but if the salary offered was better than he's currently getting, he'd seriously consider us. I'm just surprised at you Brian, as you berate many of us for being negative in quite a lot of your posts.
As to how far we've fallen, we all know that, but if somebody with some sparkle and ambition could help put the club back on the road to success, he'd be a hero to many. That might turn out to be our current boss, who knows?
8 Posted 29/10/2024 at 13:16:53
It's just that he's doing well at Brentford, who are doing much better than us, and he's very recently come out and said (when linked to the Man Utd job) how happy and settled he was at Brentford.
More money might not be enough for him to jump ship.
You're right: I do berate some when they incessantly and repeatedly post moaning, negative posts.
Again, I don't feel like my post was negative, just realistic.
9 Posted 29/10/2024 at 13:19:20
Discuss.
10 Posted 29/10/2024 at 13:48:28
That may be the main reason he wouldn't come.
11 Posted 29/10/2024 at 15:33:37
As if with a new manager, the players would suddenly be transformed so that could go round a defender or actually pass to one another. The players are lower midtable standard with 2 or 3 exceptions.
We all want to be up there challenging the Top 6 teams but we will not do it with the squad we have now.
For now, Dyche is doing an okay job;, next season will be the time to improve the team if the change of ownership goes through. We do have a problem though with a good few players out of contract next summer.
I would stick with Dyche but, if Friedkin wants a different manager, so be it.
12 Posted 29/10/2024 at 15:48:50
Brian, Frank is already managing in a shiny new stadium (albeit a small one), under the most popular owner in the Premier League, and he is adored by a fan base that doesn't expect Champions League football or yearly silverware. He has the rarest thing in football management, a supremely comfortable and satisfying job. And he is already paid £4.5M a year, not far off Dyche's paycheck. That's why he has shown zero ambition to leave London.
Brian is right, folks. You cannot assume that Friedkin will want to pay him £7-8M to lure him over. You cannot assume he would be interested in a pressure-cooker job where he'd be out on his ass in a year and a half if he didn't succeed right away. And you cannot assume that his attractive style of football would bring the level of success that Everton fans will demand.
Jay #89, that is not correct. From an article on the Brentford website:
“I like Sean a lot," said Frank, "I've been privileged to meet him a few times when weve been together for, I dont want to call them leadership groups, but when weve been together outside [of football]. I enjoyed it, it was good... I also texted him when he got the job at Everton to welcome him back to the Premier League."
So nothing like "big mates".
13 Posted 29/10/2024 at 17:03:11
It's up to the Friedkins whether to match those sorts of expectations for someone who finished below Dyche last season with a more expensively assembled squad.
He is good but equally he's probably peaked at Brentford now and, even though they are well run, it'll be downhill sooner or later (as has happened to Charlton and Portsmouth and the like over the years).
14 Posted 29/10/2024 at 17:09:58
Are there any substantiated rumours or is this just wishful thinking from a few Toffees?
15 Posted 29/10/2024 at 17:12:52
It's just TW madness! 🤣
16 Posted 29/10/2024 at 17:35:20
It's all unsubstantiated nonsense - including (and possibly especially) my posts on the subject.
17 Posted 29/10/2024 at 17:54:17
18 Posted 29/10/2024 at 18:17:32
It ran its course.
19 Posted 29/10/2024 at 21:04:35
I was often shouted down when I called for Eddie Howe when he was managing Bournemouth, he's not done too bad a job at Newcastle without signing any mega stars that were touted.
Frank would be a shrewd move in my opinion, intelligent man, in keeping with the modern game and his teams score goals.
We need to get away from all of these safety-first managers and this whole survival kit mentality.
20 Posted 29/10/2024 at 22:03:01
21 Posted 29/10/2024 at 22:27:37
I don't think the new owners would be splashing the cash, even if they conjured up a way of doing so within the P&S rules. The squad will need a fair measure of rebuilding in the summer on a relative shoestring, just to replace players we're likely to see depart.
22 Posted 30/10/2024 at 04:19:00
23 Posted 30/10/2024 at 04:38:34
24 Posted 30/10/2024 at 04:56:55
Everton have always been a bigger club than Brentford. And that will be the case as long as a football is kicked.
Can you see the likes of Koeman and Ancelotti penning a contract to stand on the touchline of the Gtech Community Stadium, admiring the 17,000 fans packed in?
They could fondly remember when they won the Second Division in 1934 or finished 10th in the Premier League. Ah the glory days!
25 Posted 30/10/2024 at 06:40:39
Barring disaster, Dyche will see out his contract and next summer will be the time to make a move. Chances are there will be some decent managers available and it will be interesting to see what style of play Thelwell and Friedkin are keen to see implemented.
Friedkin has had 4 managers at Roma in 4 years with the current pick Ivan Juric not proving too popular in early days of his tenure.
26 Posted 30/10/2024 at 08:10:11
And when they replace, they could throw us a curveball, as we've seen with Manchester United these past few days. With all the names being thrown around in the media, I doubt many saw that one coming.
Three days until Southampton. Let's go and get the points.
27 Posted 30/10/2024 at 08:14:38
New Owner, New Stadium, one of the best fan bases in the Premiership, the potential resurrection of a sleeping giant, presumably money to be made available to achieve this. I don't believe he would be a chequebook manager either, as he has been through the ranks so to speak, and has a grasp of reality.
Obviously he would bring his own staff with him, but in tandem with Kevin Thelwell, presumably could unearth a few bargains too. Feel Dyche has done a good, but limited job, with what he has been left with, but feel it is highly unlikely he would still be with us come the summer.
28 Posted 30/10/2024 at 08:21:31
I'm not suggesting loyalty would be the main factor but, as others have suggested, he is loved there and though you say we have one of the best fan bases those fans have turned quickly on players and managers in recent years.
Patience is at a real premium and quick failures can be damaging to a manager's reputation. Money may be a factor but he's already well paid and we don't know yet how willing to splash the cash the Friedkins will be.
I could see him moving but could very plausibly see him turning us down. Not sure we should feel entitled to much right now.
29 Posted 30/10/2024 at 08:30:10
What style do we as a club play? That articulates into the juniors we bring through, the players we target, and the manager that we get on board.
That's why clubs like Brentford and Brighton seem to keep finding good managers and good players. They're just the right fit for what they're trying to do.
It feels like every time we look for a new manager we end up with a shortlist of managers with completely different styles. The only thing they have in common is that they were easy links to be made by the media. The club is that lazy.
30 Posted 30/10/2024 at 09:36:02
Like Roy Keane said the other night, if you are looking for loyalty get a dog.
31 Posted 30/10/2024 at 10:02:55
Similar to Newcastle, big stadium, when did they last win anything?
All the also-rans in the Premier League will struggle to break the glass ceiling that has been put there, it really is an unfair situation.
Leicester City were brilliant when they won the Premier League against all the odds, but 12 months later, the manager was sacked.
32 Posted 30/10/2024 at 10:06:39
If we are judging it on success, then Tottenham and Newcastle?
We are sold out home and away every week and have a season ticket waiting list of 30,000.
We are a big club. Never forget that.
33 Posted 30/10/2024 at 10:34:25
The shortlist for our next is probably based around who can develop players and a more appealing image on a small budget – ie comparable to Palace, Bournemouth and Brentford now.
And presumably Dyche remains in contention too for another season or two.
34 Posted 30/10/2024 at 14:32:26
I have to agree with Raymond (#11) that it's unhelpful to speculate on potential new managers, especially this crucial season, our last at Goodison: I say that in full appreciation of the unattractive football we play under Dyche – especially at home – but right now, he has shown that, with a near full-fit squad, he can deliver results to get us to lower mid-table. Modest, I know, but a stepping stone.
Yes, The Friedkin Group will, I am sure, make their decisions as they see fit, but my own view is that we, as fans, will not be doing the club any favours by calling for the coaches to go. Dyche has repeatedly said that the players get a great lift from the vocal support, and this season we need to be the "best we can be" in that regard.
Just look what it did for Beto on Saturday night.
35 Posted 30/10/2024 at 14:47:46
If you cast your mind back a few years, Alex Ferguson didn't exactly hit the ground running, and allegedly was verging on being introduced to the managerial arse boot! However, he did turn things round and went on a long run of success.
I know Friedkin has shown a degree of impatience or intolerance at Roma, and regardless of who was in charge, initiated their dismissal. I would hope that he may be a tad more tolerant at Everton and, assuming we are still in the Premier League, acclimatising to the new stadium etc, making allowances for whoever is in charge.
Provided a decent standard of football is being witnessed, and any unfortunate defeats were by a better side on the day, and not down to poor team selection or tactics, I still believe Thomas Frank would seriously consider all of these factors and find it hard to turn us down.
36 Posted 30/10/2024 at 15:30:00
37 Posted 30/10/2024 at 15:41:41
1. He's spent lots more than Dyche;
2. Last season's actual points (ignoring deductions) were less.
Is it because he is media-friendly and seems a nice guy? I don't want nice (Lampard was that in spades); I want effective!
38 Posted 30/10/2024 at 16:02:38
39 Posted 30/10/2024 at 16:23:04
Don't be shy. You can even call me a few names in your response.
And if Derek struggles with an answer, any other detractors are invited to answer that question.
I see much hedging about who could do better, with proper backing. And who has properly backed Dyche?
40 Posted 30/10/2024 at 17:41:17
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1 Posted 29/10/2024 at 09:53:32
Will Frank be given more money to spend at Everton than Brentford?