Season › 2024-25 › News Smashing Keane finish seals solid victory at Portman Road Lyndon Lloyd 19/10/2024 75comments | Jump to last Ipswich 0 - 2 Everton Everton powered into a 2-0 lead for the third time this season but managed to see it out on this occasion with a professional performance on the road against newly-promoted Ipswich Town. Iliman Ndiaye struck in the 17th minute to give the Toffees the lead after Dominic Calvert-Lewin had fluffed his lines once again in a one-on-one situation and Michael Keane doubled the advantage with a terrific finish later in the first half. Where Sean Dyche’s men caved from such a strong position against Bournemouth and Aston Villa, this time they ground out the points, keeping a second successive clean sheet and putting some daylight between themselves and the bottom three. Jarrad Branthwaite returned to full training earlier in the week but was, sensibly, withheld from the squad for the trip to East Anglia, allowing Keane to continue his partnership with James Tarkowski at centre half. Article continues below video content Vitalii Mykolenko made a welcome return at left-back while Ashley Young resumed full-back duties on the opposite side and Idrissa Gueye was chosen in the middle alongside Abdoulaye Doucouré, somewhat harshly at the expense of Orel Mangala. Everton were unable to assert control on the game from the first whistle and they probably should have been a goal down after just five minutes when Kieran McKenna’s side successfully played around the Blues’ press and carved out a gilt-edged chance. Wes Burns was played in down the Tractor Boys’ right flank, he cut the ball back invitingly for Jack Clarke but with the goal at his mercy he made a mess of the contact and failed to hit the target. Two minutes later, an even better chance fell to Calvert-Lewin at the other end when he easily intercepted a weak pass from Kalvin Phillips leaving him with just Arijenet Muric to beat but his shot deflected off the keeper and behind. Not long after that, Ndiaye turned his man impressively and laid it across to Dwight McNeil but, inexplicably, he took a touch to set himself when a first-time strike was there for the taking and Clarke nipped across him to take it off him as he belatedly pulled the trigger. When Ipswich played themselves into trouble again just past the quarter-hour mark, though, it led to Everton taking the lead. Muric could only side-foot the ball over his own byline and when the resulting corner ended up with Jack Harrison, neither Dara O’Shea nor Burns could deal with his deep cross. Burns dallied on O’Shea’s header and Ndiaye seized the loose ball, cutting onto his right foot and rifling a shot high into the net to make it 1-0. Calvert-Lewin forced a one-handed save from Muric when he swivelled onto McNeil’s pass as the visitors pressed for a second but it looked as though they were going to be pegged back midway through the first half when they were awarded a penalty by referee Michael Oliver. Omari Hutchison’s free-kick after he had been chopped down in full flight by Keane had ended up with a corner for the home side that Everton only half cleared. When the ball ended up back in their box, McNeil was robbed trying to dribble his way out and Clarke went down, apparently fouled by the Blues’ forward. Video Assistant Referee, Graham Scott, eventually advised Oliver to review the incident on the pitch-side monitor and the correct decision — that Clarke had slipped and kicked McNeil’s foot — was reached, with the penalty overturned. Despite the scare, Everton remained the likelier of the two sides to add to the scoreline, and after McNeil’s shot had hit Calvert-Lewin on its way towards goal, Dyche’s side won another corner when Cameron Burgess was forced to glance Harrison’s cross behind. That set-piece was worked short, Tarkowski’s header back into the six-yard box was only cleared to McNeil on the edge of the area and after ghosting away from two men with some lovely footwork, he found Keane who belted home a marvellous effort from a very tight angle. The half ended with direct free-kick opportunities for both teams, Phillips floating his effort over the crossbar and Young’s curling harmlessly into Muric’s arms after Harrison had been fouled. The first 15 minutes of the second period saw Everton continue to have the upper hand but without them being able to make that dominance pay. Again lacking sufficient numbers in support, Calvert-Lewin’s square cross was cut out by Burgess, the striker then toed Doucoure’s prodded pass wide from close range with his weaker left foot while Ndiaye couldn’t capitalise on another Ipswich slip in midfield when his shot lacked power and Muric made the save low to his right. McNeil had one more effort saved after Everton counter-attacked on the hour mark which ushered in a final half hour where Ipswich assumed the upper hand but, despite much huffing and puffing, they couldn’t find a breakthrough. Indeed, it was the Blues who should have wrapped things up late on but Calvert-Lewin again shot too close to Muric with just the keeper to beat. The in-form Liam Delap had an effort of his own blocked and then rattled a shot over, Hutchison’s strike was deflected narrowly past the far post and Conor Chaplin finally had the hosts’ first shot on target 10 minutes from time when he met a bobbling corner but could only fire straight at Jordan Pickford. Apart from a low Jack Taylor shot that the England keeper saved with an out-stretched glove as the game ticked into stoppage time, that was as close as Ipswich came to scoring and Everton comfortably saw out their first away victory in 10 months. Matchday updates and reaction Reader Comments (75) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Frank Sheppard 1 Posted 19/10/2024 at 19:31:27 Decent win, quite routine for a change. Calvert-Lewin failed with 3 one-on-ones….. Pickford had no save to make until 80th minute. What a pleasure. Peter Moore 2 Posted 19/10/2024 at 19:56:59 Well done, Dyche. Keane the hero again. If Calvert-Lewin was a predatory striker, it conceivably could have been 0-5 to us. (Massive word, 'if'.)Glad football is on grass in the money dominated era. On paper, we should be 10th in the Championship, on spending.What a massive debt of gratitude we owe Dyche for his solid and strong resoluteness and sticking to his very challenging task. The injury problems and off-field absolute shambles; he has had to be the face of Everton – the entire Club. May the new era of TFG provide him with much better support. I will be interested to see what he can do with better quality and depth of resources in his squad. Mike Galley 3 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:00:11 That rarest of things, a routine EFC away win.Thought it was a good performance. Calvert-Lewin had a good all round game, apart from his finishing, obviously. The midfield played well. All-in-all, a good day. UTFT Phil Smith 4 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:02:28 On stats alone that game looked closer than it was - a routine win. On another day, with a striker who can actually take his chances, we would have won that way more comfortably. For all the good Calvert-Lewin does playing as a lone striker, his main job is to tuck away chances, but he continues to fluff his lines with guilt-edge opportunities. Keane showed him how it's done today.I will have a moan about our lack of energy from the 80th minute onwards again. Ipswich made 5 subs before we made any. Same players looked spent (McNeil, Doucoure and Harrison) on 70 minutes but, not for the first time, he takes our most creative adn dangerous player off. We're gonna pick up more injuries if he doesn't start rotating players a little, or at least bring a couple off at the 75-minute mark for fresh legs. Where was legs Lindstrom today? Paul Tran 5 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:17:03 Lindstrom was/is ill and didn't travel. Ian Bennett 6 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:26:19 A must-win game, and to be fair they delivered. 3 points, clean sheet and fairly comfortable.Credit to Keane for the goal, it was another quality finish with his feet. I am not his biggest fan, but he can strike fairly impressively for a big centre-back. Not sure Dom could have scored that.Let's look upwards so we can enjoy the last season at Goodison. Dave Lynch 7 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:27:19 Going to be totally honest here... people bang on about DCL's work rate, being brutal about it – he can shove his work rate up his arse.I would rather him be a lazy bastard in the mould of a Berbatov and stick away the good chances he often gets in games.Goals are priceless in football, work rate with no end product equals... headless chicken in my book.He still shoots like a 12-year-old as well. Mal van Schaick 8 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:34:30 A good all round team performance; all players were committed. That was Jack Harrison's best performance for me. He held the ball up, his distribution was better and he tracked back. Keane smashed that ball in, great goal. Ndiaye is turning out to be a good addition.Without going over the top, good team selection, tactics and performance next week against Fulham will give us another win to elevate our position in the Premier League. Barry Rathbone 9 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:36:27 Dave 7With you on that.Let the workhorses in midfield concentrate on grafting. If we had a striker who could change direction rather than play only the way he's facing, we'd be right up the table. Ian Jones 10 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:49:41 Thanks to a 'Dave' who posted the following comment on the BBC report of the game:'I used to like Ipswich but not any more!!You could say I'm an ex-tractor fan' Andy Crooks 11 Posted 19/10/2024 at 20:55:08 Shove your work rate up your arse??? FFS. Barry, I'm surprised to see you endorsing that nonsense. We cannot have luxury players, and Barry, you know that as much as I do. In our situation we need Calvert-Lewin to cover at right-back if necessary. I was going to say goalie, but we seem fine there!! Brendan McLaughlin 12 Posted 19/10/2024 at 21:05:30 Good victory on the road.Thought we controlled the game throughout. Most relaxed I've felt watching an Everton game in a long time... sin alcohol to boot. Dave Lynch 13 Posted 19/10/2024 at 21:22:02 Andy...why is it nonsense?Hes a striker for christ sake! The good strikers do not "cover at right back", that statement stinks of negative football, players are supposed to be picked with regards their best position.To assume the Calvert Lewin would be needed at right back is as stupid a suggestion I've ever heard.I'll say again...he's picked as a striker, did you ever see Lineker, Rush, Shearer or Cole cover at right back? My guess is no, they where strikers who scored a multitude of goals between them. John Raftery 14 Posted 19/10/2024 at 21:56:18 Dave (13), The strikers you mention scored goals with the help of top-class team-mates supplying chances. So did Calvert-Lewin when he had James Rodriguez and Richarlison with him in 2020-21. If he stayed between the width of the posts in our current team, we would not be able to get the ball up the pitch and Calvert-Lewin would, with some justification, be criticised for indolence. Dave Lynch 15 Posted 19/10/2024 at 22:01:39 John... he missed arguably 3 fucking sitters today and I can't remember the last time he netted on a one-on-one... that's not a good striker IMO.As for the players I mentioned, two of them (Lineker and Shearer) won next to fuck-all between them in the English league despite their goal-scoring prowess. Tony Abrahams 16 Posted 19/10/2024 at 22:10:34 Understand the argument and think that any forward who is allowed the luxury of playing up front with loads of quality players behind him, and being told to conserve his energy to score more goals, will score more goals.Lukaku rarely worked his socks off but he scored more goals and I remember listening to Wayne Rooney talking about how he was asked to just stay up front for a period, and although he started scoring more goals, he thought his overall contribution to his team was nowhere near the same. Kunal Desai 17 Posted 19/10/2024 at 22:12:33 Solid win and a well-earned 3 points. That's 8 points from the last four games with plenty of points to pick up from the next up-and-coming fixtures before the derby should really see us move comfortably in mid-table. Jay Harris 18 Posted 19/10/2024 at 22:21:02 The only thing I will say in defense of Calvert-Lewin's finishing is that he created most of his chances himself by work rate and skill.I thought all the lads played well and restricting Ipswich to one shot on goal was a major achievement.Bit nervous for the last 15 minutes as legs tired and we dropped deeper but Ipswich were not good enough to trouble us. Rob Jones 19 Posted 19/10/2024 at 22:23:52 Calvert-Lewin is an outstanding hold-up player, and an incredibly hard worker, but he's an abysmal striker. Which is, you know, his primary job.Problem is, if he was a prolific finisher, he wouldn't be playing for Everton. We have no money. So Calvert-Lewin is what we have to make do with. Mike Gaynes 20 Posted 19/10/2024 at 22:49:32 Dom is a terrible goal scorer and a spectacular player. He contributes everywhere on the pitch except where a striker is supposed to, which is facing the goalkeeper. Does that sum it up for everybody?Personally, I will take him. Yeah, it drives me crazy that he cant do a strikers most important job, but he is so vital to everything else we do that he is pretty much irreplaceable.But if he could learn to chip the keeper on those breakaways… Oh my. George Stuart 21 Posted 20/10/2024 at 00:22:08 Just a thought that will never see fruition but Dom as an attacking midfield player behind a striker who would be… oh! Larry O'Hara 22 Posted 20/10/2024 at 00:33:31 FWIW, I just looked on an Ipswich forum and they all agree that Calvert-Lewin was class today. Simon Dalzell 23 Posted 20/10/2024 at 00:56:07 Good, much-needed result. But I can't wait to move on from the gravel-voiced, ginger-haired destroyer of the Beautiful Game. Simon Dalzell 24 Posted 20/10/2024 at 01:35:26 22 Larry. Calvert-Lewin had a good game. If only he could score goals, what a centre-forward he would be! Mike Gaynes 25 Posted 20/10/2024 at 03:15:31 Id say today was a very beautiful game. Jerome Shields 26 Posted 20/10/2024 at 05:25:04 Just got the result. Very grateful. Bill Fairfield 27 Posted 20/10/2024 at 08:19:34 Excellent win. Should have been by a few more. Looking forward to the next game now. Which makes a nice change. Jerome Shields 28 Posted 20/10/2024 at 08:29:48 A confident Keane has to be a good thing.Calvert-Lewin is playing the way he always played and does work hard in training and on the pitch. Probably a lot harder than Beto. Because of the state of the club, he wasn't developed properly as a striker. The Everton centre-forward role is traditionally a defining role at Everton adding to the pressure.What Ancelotti did was to come up with a solution to bypass weaknesses in Calvert-Lewin's game with getting in for the one-touch scoring.Because Everton has been in relegation mode playing from deep, with Calvert-Lewin injured and succumbing to the pressure of his role, the one-touch approach has not been followed since. Niall McIlhone 30 Posted 20/10/2024 at 08:40:44 There was much to like about the performance yesterday; this despite the shortcomings us fans are well used to, such as Doucoure showing a poor touch, Harrison failing to get a cross in, and Calvert-Lewin's profligacy in front of goal. That said, the output overall was hugely encouraging. The press on the Ipswich back four put them under pressure, and there was a lot of movement off the ball when Everton regained possession. If Dyche is consistent in setting this team up to retain possession instead of the usual “submission” of the ball after three or four passes, then there are many more points to be won this season. Rob Halligan 31 Posted 20/10/2024 at 09:01:47 Just watched the BBC highlights of the game. Now we all know the BBC will try to show as little as possible anything good about Everton, but surely the two pieces of sublime “Cruyff-like” turns by Gueye after winning the ball, in the first half followed by a surging run, and then Calvert-Lewin in the second half, literally on the touchline, how he kept the ball in I'll never know, were worthy of a viewing. Michael Cooper 32 Posted 20/10/2024 at 09:28:56 Oh deary me…That's the worst performance from a McKenna Ipswich team since he's been with us.We had a last-minute injury crisis with our best defender this season, Jacob Greaves, injured at centre-back. Then two injuries at right-back, with our excellent Axel out, then Ben Johnson gets a late knock. So O'Shea goes out into that position. And we start with a League One pair of centre-backs.But that is not an excuse for a very large no-show from so many players. Ipswich can't expect to get anything in this league with what 8 players giving a 5 out of 10 performance.The 15-minute delay and then that no-show, combined with the missed Jack Clarke chance, and crucially swapping ends at kick-off – was that a Dyche plan?! – meant our normally excellent home atmosphere was virtually silent.But credit to Everton, you had an ability to go into a structured deep two lines that was impenetrable, and you bossed the middle of the park. Doucouré the stand out player for me.It wasn't a penalty. But you could also argue that it wasn't something VAR should be involved in.We huffed and puffed but weren't going to ever score. It's a shame you didn't get to see a real McKenna team or a true Portman Road atmosphere.It was funny that, on about 87 minutes, when I think you knew the 3 points were yours, the away end just went into a superb period of noise, which was by far the best we've seen in the Premier League – your local rivals were much more subdued.I can see why Dyche frustrates, there was some serious slowing of the game, but you just had better players and he did set you up well. And actually you were quite speedy in transition which I wasn't expecting.Calvert-Lewin should have had a hat-trick and, for the wages he's on, he should have done.But I would conclude that you beat a Town side that simple didn't turn up. If we'd had the level of performance of Villa or Fulham, I think we'd be close to getting 3 points.This Town TV channel is well worth a watch, with an ex player and discussion of the difference in level:https://youtu.be/PhEDnXNWRqI?si=d38z6mTlLMInXDRT Michael Lynch 33 Posted 20/10/2024 at 09:58:46 I thought Calvert-Lewin was excellent — if only he could get the ball in the back of the net!Ipswich, on this showing, are going down but we're not out of the woods yet. Solid performance, and Ndiaye continues to affect games in a way that we haven't seen for years, but the wafer-thin squad is still a worry. Dave Lynch 34 Posted 20/10/2024 at 10:14:22 The squad is wafer thin, Michael, but the January window isn't far away.Get the takeover done and maybe we can strengthen the squad for the run-in. Dave Williams 35 Posted 20/10/2024 at 10:20:21 DCL is a class player and showed he can score goals when Carlo selected players who could support him.Yes, he should be scoring one-on-ones but I'm glad we've got him. Sort out the midfield and he will score more goals. Until then, he will likely get into double figures – just – but be an integral part of our team until we are able to give him more support.It strikes me that some on here have never forgiven him for wearing that skirt and just love the opportunity to criticise. Michael Lynch 36 Posted 20/10/2024 at 10:28:24 Dave @34 yes but the January window is generally a place to panic-buy overpriced failures. If we can pick up a couple of solid buys, with an eye on keeping us up, then fine but surely the real money should be saved for the summer? Barry Rathbone 37 Posted 20/10/2024 at 10:57:26 Andy @11,I take Dave's "stick it up your arse" as shorthand angst for comments about Calvert-Lewin's work rate among despair at what he doesn't do. Personally, I think his limited purple patch under Carlo was just that – a transient moment – zip all to do with tactics or better players. If his % of scoring to chances created remained the same, there might be a case… but I doubt it has.Calvert-Lewin's inability to take the simplest of chances is costing us but he is the best option at the present time so we just have to suck it up. Don't have to be happy about it, mind. Kevin Edward 38 Posted 20/10/2024 at 11:01:11 Very good performance and a well deserved 3 points.Calvert-Lewin was great and occupied their defence all afternoon and looked very sharp, he should have some sessions with Keane on striking the ball. He seems to side foot it, but it's not placing the ball as it always seems to hit the keeper. If he put his foot through it then, 9 times out of 10, it would be past the keeper before he had time to react.One day I sincerely hope that all Dom's efforts hit the net, and he takes the ball home. But in the meantime, we are onwards and upwards. UTFT! Steve Brown 39 Posted 20/10/2024 at 11:01:39 Mike @ 20, I agree. Calvert-Lewin had a great game yesterday but he does not look clinical when he had time to think.Dom hits every shot low to the keeper's right when he is 1 v 1. All the keeper has to do is watch the tape before the game. As you say, he should mix it up a bit. Chip, top left or right corner as he is getting predictable. On that note, do Everton even have a specialist forwards' coach? Andrew Clare 40 Posted 20/10/2024 at 11:55:35 DCL has a great all around game alas he is not a prolific goalscorer.He would work really well with a strike partner but that's not likely to happen while Dyche is manager.I will be sorry to see him leave. Andrew Merrick 41 Posted 20/10/2024 at 12:42:17 Dcl is doing OK in the roles he has been given, carlo set up the team to suit a poachers finish, a la lineker back in the day.Dom battles well but one on one's are clearly testing him, you would expect him to convert at least one yesterday, he has to work on that.Michael Keane has really settled well just when we need him, he had a dip for sure, overlooked first by England, then by us as new talent emerged, but he played through injury which took a big edge off his manoeuvring and earned him some bad reviews on this site, so big wages or not he earned his wedge this weekend.Ndayie is a joy to watch, and most everyone showed up well, 3 points away, and the efc choir in fine voice, great result. Ted Roberts 42 Posted 20/10/2024 at 13:16:35 Totally agree, Kevin #38. His work ethic is unquestionable in my opinion and he does do a job for the team. One of his chances yesterday was only stopped by the keeper's trailing leg as part of a reaction save. Some days they just don't go in, and his other chances were as if he had too much time to think. Keane's goal was the perfect example of taking your opportunity, and Dom could do well to watch that on replay a number of times. I am confident his luck will change with a little tweak of mindset: "Put yer laces through it, lad.” All in all, a much better performance all round and “great stuff again” from our travelling fans, thank you. Ray Roche 43 Posted 20/10/2024 at 13:21:19 Michael Cooper @32,Nice to get an opposition perspective, thank you. Come the end of the season, I think we'll be comfortably safe, but I fear for you, Michael. You'll have to put a stop to the dicking about at the back and strengthen central midfield to have a chance. Good luck, mate. Mark Taylor 44 Posted 20/10/2024 at 14:02:29 I agree with Michael @32 and his honest assessment of his own side. They were the worst team we have played in a long time, a truly awful defence and a midfield we, for once, dominated. I'm glad we gave Philips a swerve. They even made Doucoure look good. At least they carry some threat upfront – Hutchinson looks like a handy player – but it looks like they need their best players back to have any chance.Given the poorness of the opposition, it is harder to judge our performance but the guys who usually face the brickbats – Keane, Young, Harrison – all had better games, Gana bossed the midfield and Ndiaye looks like our best signing since, well god knows when. A proper player.I still think we leave the subs too little, too late; it is so obvious we tire in the last quarter. Sure what we have on the bench is mostly sub-par but at a certain point, fresh legs trumps talent.As for Calvert-Lewin, clearly he can't take a chance as well as Keane, but when the alternative is Beto, he stays in the team. Maybe Chermiti will come good... Mark Murphy 45 Posted 20/10/2024 at 14:04:13 Michael Cooper – please can you send that bit about our local rivals to the Liverpool Echo?Those twats are so up themselves, they think everyone wants to be them.Good luck for the rest of the season – except when you play us. Edward Rogers 46 Posted 20/10/2024 at 14:32:50 These so called one-on-one "sitters" Calvert-Lewin missed. I saw at least 3 other players miss them as well this weekend (another one in the Wolves v Man City game as I write). Maybe some credit due to the goalkeepers? Don't get me wrong, I'm as disappointed as anyone Dom didn't score at least one of them, but we are creating opportunities. I can remember watching games where we barely had a sniff. Rob Halligan 47 Posted 20/10/2024 at 14:41:32 Frank # 1……“Calvert-Lewin missed three one on ones”. I know there was the one early on in the game, and the one with virtually the last kick of the game, but I don't recall another one? Jim Potter 48 Posted 20/10/2024 at 14:47:03 A really professional and pleasing performance, where, at last, we held our nerve comfortably. Well in, Dychey.Keane, who defensively, I've never been too keen on, had a great game. What a finisher he is. Pleased for him as he's clearly a sound bloke. Young also had a much-needed good game.Dom, magnificent, apart from being unable to chip a keeper. If he could, a hat-trick awaited.Ndiaye reminds me of Duncan McKenzie. High praise indeed. He gets me off my seat.Let's keep this going, boys. Inching away from trouble and hopefully happier days. Nigel Scowen 49 Posted 20/10/2024 at 14:53:13 That's so true Edward, we are creating opportunities and he just needs one of those to go in and he's away. Football is about confidence and it will come. Nicolas Piñon 50 Posted 20/10/2024 at 16:08:42 DCL would be great with Keane's finishing feet. Alan J Thompson 51 Posted 20/10/2024 at 18:32:02 I tend to think that Calvert-Lewin's finishing problems one-on-one are more because he comes square on to the keeper and if he were to turn slightly side on he would have the option of going around the keeper with his body between the ball and keeper or making the keeper commit earlier with the choice of hitting either corner.I also think that the Mmanager should be doing something on the training ground to improve this type of finishing which most clubs do, it's paying attention to detail. Si Pulford 52 Posted 20/10/2024 at 19:59:50 Praise be to Ashley Young. One of the most maligned players in recent years. But in the last 4 or 5 games, his versatility and fitness have been a god send for us. Him and Keane have Mr Beaned themselves into being hard to drop. I never saw that coming but that's why I'm not a manager. Fair play to both. Excellent for the last month. Jerome Shields 53 Posted 20/10/2024 at 20:18:42 Alan #51In a defend and nick a goal set up, finishing is not a coaching priority. I think this is the reason that Everton have been so dependent on outstanding strikes. Fortunately, there are players in the squad with that innate ability and I include McNeil and Keane in that. Doucoure is more box-to-box, but he can get in position and shoot.Tarkowski carrying a injury means he can't.Ndiaye seems a useful player and what Everton have needed for some time. Tom Bowers 54 Posted 20/10/2024 at 23:01:45 A win is a win even against a team that looks like it's likely to be back in the Championship again next season.All praise to Everton for consolidating after getting two goals ahead and Ipswich didn't get a shot on target until the 80th. minute.Generally everyone played well and it would be harsh to point a critical finger at any one individual.Hard to explain the freak meltdown they had against Bournemouth and obviously since the Villa game also we were all a little apprehensive this time after getting two goals ahead.Let's all hope that the good run continues until we are well clear of the bottom echelons. Ben King 55 Posted 20/10/2024 at 23:20:31 Brilliant, brilliant win!Well done to the players and well done to Dyche. Mike Gaynes 56 Posted 21/10/2024 at 00:27:25 Michael #32, glad you dropped back in for a post-game comment.I respect your opinion that your lads didn't "turn up", but I thought most played with a fine spirit and great toughness, and nobody gave up. But whether it was lack of execution or simply lack of talent, you just didn't have the quality needed. Thank you for the compliment on the traveling Blues... we are indeed proud of them.Wishing you the best for the remainder of the season. The good news is that, with four teams still winless, anyone that can string two or three wins together can get themselves clear of the relegation zone pretty quickly. I hope it's you. Hugh Jenkins 57 Posted 21/10/2024 at 08:24:11 Mark (45)It would do no good - they wouldn't print it. Alan J Thompson 58 Posted 21/10/2024 at 08:28:43 Jerome (#53); We've scored nine goals in eight games and last season there was only one club that scored less than us which would seem to suggest not missing our easiest chances is a priority, it is what the game is supposed to be about. Robert Tressell 59 Posted 21/10/2024 at 09:28:26 Alan # 58, finishing is an issue - and lack of quality generally is an issue. If we had the likes of Digne, Sigurdsson, Gordon and Richarlison in the squad, then the goals for column would be healthier. Some genuine competition for Calvert-Lewin would be good too. Broja will hopefully provide that but he's unlikely to be prolific at least in the short term. As Nunez and Hojlund have shown, you can spend £85M or £70M on a striker and it can still be a struggle to get out of double figures. Bournemouth may find that with £37M Evanilson. So our best chance is to develop a striker (like Broja or Chermiti) because buying ready-made is probably a non-starter. Michael Connelly 60 Posted 21/10/2024 at 11:27:19 All Calvert-Lewin should be doing in training is practicing finishing and one-on-ones. Hold-up play, touch, pace, heading are all good, but his shooting is absolutely limp.For the one-on-ones when he is through on goal, a bit of a feint before he shoots would fool the keeper for some of the chances. Justin Doone 61 Posted 21/10/2024 at 13:04:03 Great win, good game. Ndiaye is exactly what we have been missing for so long. Both he and McNeil are crucial to our creativity, goal scoring and team play. Dom isn't a natural striker. Anyone who doesn't already know that and thinks he's just unlucky is wrong. He's a good player, an athletic player that puts the effort in.Running with the ball is not his strong point, being on the end of passes and crosses is his game. Alan J Thompson 62 Posted 21/10/2024 at 17:38:38 Robert (#59); I'm not saying go out and spend £70M or £80M on another striker but to me there is an obvious need for at least one striker we have to work on his technique in certain situations. If we can't manage that, then why should we believe that we can develop one of our other strikers? Mike Gaynes 63 Posted 21/10/2024 at 21:55:24 Alan J, it's not always about who we develop or don't develop. This is about the player. Calvert-Lewin cannot strike a ball. He has never been able to, with either foot. Not once in his career has he ever elevated a shot like Ndiaye or Keane did Saturday, or McNeil a few weeks ago. He has never scored a screamer.And since it's clear from the rest of his all-around game and his physical durability that he works his socks off in training, it must simply be that he lacks that talent. No amount of "development" can deliver shooting power and accuracy if the natural ability simply isn't there. Beto lacks a shot as well.Let's hope that Broja and Chermiti do have it. Jim Potter 64 Posted 21/10/2024 at 23:16:37 But Mike, shot power wasn't the issue on Saturday, was it? It was surely Dom's inability to chip the keeper or go around him. Mike Gaynes 65 Posted 21/10/2024 at 23:40:56 Jim, as I pointed out in my comment #20, certainly chipping the keeper would be the most desirable ability, but just the capability to drive a shot into the upper portion of the net would have been sufficient. On the run, he is not able to do it. Alan J Thompson 66 Posted 22/10/2024 at 06:35:36 Mike (#63); I think you should be addressing that to Robert (#59) who raised the prospect of developing Broja and Chermiti or their like. My point was the obvious, that Calvert-Lewin needs coaching and practice in situations where he is one-on-one with a goalkeeper and that perhaps it might start with him not being so square on as he nears the goalkeeper, he doesn't need to burst the net – just hit the net – and it might be a start to have options that sow a seed of doubt in the keepers mind which his current approach doesn't seem to do. Robert Tressell 67 Posted 22/10/2024 at 07:21:46 Presumably, Calvert-Lewin is practising his finishing fairly intensively already. The problem may be that its a bit late. Ajax work on the basis that players must master technique by age 8. Whilst he can improve, there is a limit. To be honest, I think he's developed himself way beyond the level of his natural ability already through hard work and making the best of his physical attributes. That's why I'm keen for us to develop players of greater talent. It'll be really interesting to Broja in a blue shirt once he's fit – which is hopefully soon now. Alan J Thompson 68 Posted 22/10/2024 at 08:04:02 Robert (#67); I assume we have taken Broja for a reason but do you think that is as Calvert-Lewin's replacement and this season or next as I can't see Broja being fit enough this season to see DC-L dropped for him.And are you putting too much faith in our Academy? Ajax it ain't, unless you count Cannon's recent four-goal haul, Price's international hat-trick and Fulham's left-back…There aren't too many getting past the first team bench for some years now, albeit I understand your remark to be more about old dogs and new tricks. Robert Tressell 69 Posted 22/10/2024 at 08:50:48 Alan, the reason we have taken Broja is a combination of (a) having talent and potential, and (b) being within reach financially due to lousy form at Fulham and a truly awful injury record.It's a very speculative signing and may not work out. But the options were very limited due to our dire financial position.Personally I'm still quite excited to see him play and, if we can get him fit, I think he has the potential to become a better striker than Calvert-Lewin in time. Certainly if we want a 20-goal-a-season striker now, we will have to develop him. Even with the Friedkins, there is no chance of signing ready made. This is because there are so few available and the cost is astronomical. And you're right, I wasn't making any sort of point about our academy. Brian Harrison 70 Posted 22/10/2024 at 09:37:35 Robert,I share your views on Broja, although because of injuries, I haven't seen enough to make an informed judgement. I also think Chermiti might actually be the best of the 3, he has pace and good movement and looks a decent finisher. Calvert-Lewin has largely played in a system which he has ploughed a lone role, and has been largely unchallenged for his position. Certainly so far, Beto has hardly proved as a challenger for Calvert-Lewin's position. Certainly Ancelotti got the best out of Calvert-Lewin whose instruction of don't take a touch helped him, also not forgetting he had James and Richarlison to provide and help with the goal scoring. Strikers are always judged by the amount of goals they score. Every time people compare strikers, the goal tally is usually the first port of call. While even Calvert-Lewins critics have to acknowledge how hard he works, unfortunately strikers live and die by their goals. With Calvert-Lewin, there is the added distraction of being in the last 6 months of his contract. It doesn't look as if he and the club will reach an agreement on a new contract, so we may be forced to look at alternatives sooner rather than later. Dave Abrahams 71 Posted 22/10/2024 at 10:05:17 Brian (70), I'm a fan of Dominic and appreciate all the hard work he does upfront, mostly on his own, but have to agree with you that strikers are judged on their goals as well as the graft they do and I would swap Dominic for Chris Wood of NottM Forest tomorrow if he was a lot younger than he is.Wood also runs the legs off himself for his team and provides the goals as well, 19 in 39 games for Forest. Unfortunately, he 33 now, mind you we could see Dominic move for nothing at the end of the season. Mark Murphy 72 Posted 22/10/2024 at 14:08:50 I just watched MotD. Dom was far from the only striker to miss one v ones. But he does need to work on it, obviously. Jerome Shields 73 Posted 22/10/2024 at 19:06:17 Michael #32Everton have also played that way at times.I often think it is a failing of promoted sides to give too much respect to Everton and let them play.But as you say injuries did play their part.I suppose like hardened Evertonians who have gone through the angst of the relegation dogfight, too often, you have to have some belief in the positives where they occur.In the ups and down of the relegation zone being fourth of the bottom is a plus and sometimes the faith of fans can just give enough push as other teams fall past on the way down.Yes keep the faith Ipswich are not a bad side. Scott Montgomery 74 Posted 22/10/2024 at 20:24:04 If a plumber plumbs 10 houses a day but all the pipes leak is he a good plumber?I can appreciate how hard he works but dont want him on my building site. Derek Knox 75 Posted 22/10/2024 at 20:26:31 Scott @ 74, is this a question from Wiki Leaks ? :-) Scott Montgomery 76 Posted 22/10/2024 at 20:32:51 Derek @75 :)And for those who applaud him for helping out with the carpentry, electrics & soffit, I dont want him to. I want him to be a good bloody plumber! Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb