Season › 2024-25 › News Dyche: 'I don't shy away from poor win record' Lyndon Lloyd 25/11/2024 69comments | Jump to last Sean Dyche says that the work continues as he, his staff and his players try to find solutions to Everton’s inability to score goals and win matches this season. On Saturday against 10-man Brentford, the Blues huffed and puffed through 90-plus fruitless minutes with just five shots on target and were held to a third goalless draw in six matches. It extended their recent run to just one defeat in eight matches but with an average return of less than a point a game so far, it’s not enough to keep the club away from the danger of being sucked into the bottom three, particularly with a daunting run of fixtures to come in December. In uncharacteristic fashion, Dyche experimented with the positioning of Dwight McNeil and Iliman Ndiaye in the second half against the Bees and then went with two up top when Beto was brought on to partner Dominic Calvert-Lewin but his side still couldn’t make the breakthrough. Article continues below video content “There was lots of effort, lots of shots and stuff, but there were not really killer moments,” Dyche said in his post-match press conference. “I think it's been something I've talked about endlessly since I've been in the club, and before I've been at the club. “It has been a reality for a long time here. Developing people who score goals is the toughest challenge as a manager. So, if you can’t develop individuals you want to try to develop a team that can score goals. “The challenge we have had this season is quite obvious to everyone. We were conceding far too many and we had to change that. So we've changed that and now you've got to stay effective in the offensive side. So we scored a bit more freely at the beginning of the season, but we were conceding too many. So that's been the challenge, quite obviously. “[Scoring goals has] been a longstanding thing here. So, you know, how we find that… most managers do that by chequebook. We can't do that. So, therefore, the development continues. That is what we're looking to do, remind players of their skillset, on their strengths and working towards them. Though Dyche managed to amass 48 points last season and achieve a 12th-place finish without the Premier League’s points deductions applied, Everton have struggled to put a sequence of wins together this term. As matches against Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City loom between now and the end of the year, supporters are increasingly concerned about another protracted battle to stave off relegation. “Supporters have been concerned ever since I walked in the door,” Dyche explained. “They were concerned before I walked in the door and they have been concerned when I've been here. I've been talking endlessly about us trying to change the story. We haven't done that. We have had spells when we have done it, and then we have dropped away. “And even this spell, one loss in eight. But it doesn't mean anything because we are not winning and I don't shy away from that. You want to win, I want to play winning football. And we're not winning as many as we should be winning, in my opinion. So the work just continues. "It's searching. That's what we managers do — search for the right moments that can win you game and make you more effective." With the takeover by The Friedkin Group still on track to be completed by the end of the year, it is the understanding of Sky's Alan Myers that Dyche's position is not under threat despite discontent among the fanbase. Dyche retains backing of interim board Reader Comments (69) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Ernie Baywood 1 Posted 25/11/2024 at 18:21:57 “Supporters have been concerned ever since I walked in the door,” Dyche explained.First thing he's said tha I've agreed with! Dave Abrahams 2 Posted 25/11/2024 at 18:41:47 The most obvious weak spot in the team, besides the allergic to scoring strikers, is playing two in central midfield; it leaves us wide open when the opposition attack. Luckily Brentford didn't do a lot of that but still opened us up too often. For fuck's sake, play three in midfield and make the other team fight for the ball; then, when we get hold of the ball, bleedin' make sure we pass it to one of the Everton players.It's so easy, especially if you practice often enough! Sean O'Hanlon 3 Posted 25/11/2024 at 18:43:14 Just Piss Off, Dyche! That's the solution you've been searching for! Mark McDonald 4 Posted 25/11/2024 at 18:51:32 We supporters have been concerned for a long time now, even before he came. So I am not sure what his comment actually means.I am not sure if it means supporters were concerned about his appointment or the running of the club in general?Either way, it's time to go. Keith Gleave 5 Posted 25/11/2024 at 18:58:38 It's okay saying we had a hat full of shots but the truth is we don't put proper crosses into the box that Calvert-Lewin and Beto can attack. The proof of this is the quality – or lack of – in our corners. Personally, I cannot see how Dyche is going to pull us out of this and December will show how poor his tactics are. David McMullen 6 Posted 25/11/2024 at 18:59:31 There's only 2 words I can think of, from The Royle Family: "My arse". Tony Abrahams 7 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:06:40 We played higher up the pitch on Saturday which meant we often got the ball closer to Brentford's goal but we were often too slow and lacked real belief. Once the ref inexplicably (imo) sent off their captain, it exposed everything that is currently wrong about Everton from an offensive point of view.I thought Gueye was very effective and really important in the first half, having to do so much running and covering because we do lack a body in midfield. It was the complete opposite in the second half, when he had a lot more time; this epitomized the whole team and the way we continued to be set-up.After reading what Dyche said about Ndiaye, I had to agree that he never found the pockets to get on the ball once he moved inside, but he did have the look of a player who had no real belief in either the system or the players around him.I was calling for Patterson; I wanted to see what the very ineffective Lindstrom could produce if he was moved inside. When Beto finally came on, I just sat there feeling dejected when McNeil was trying to drop his shoulder and dribble, because we never had the craft or the gumption to create an overload down the flanks.A sorry day, but we have had a lot of very sorry days since Martinez's first season, whoever we have had in charge. Denis Richardson 8 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:09:09 Pressure's building… I don't fancy our chances away to Man Utd next. First home game for the new manager. Paul Ferry 9 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:13:42 If they can back him, then they can sack him. Paul Ferry 10 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:21:19 Why is everything nearly always 'longstanding'? Ralph Basnett 11 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:28:36 If you don't set up to score, funnily you don't score.The gap between the midfield supporting the lone striker is far too wide. Jay Harris 12 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:38:37 We understood the problems you walked into and appreciated how you handled the pressure.However, if you can't sort out the problems in 3 years and in fact have gone backwards with selection, tactics and game management, then it is time to go.You are the weakest link… Bye. Liam Mogan 13 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:41:36 Dyche probably got sent for a 'long stand' on his work experience as a lad and has never forgotten it.Probably still uses the 'long stand' routine on the renowned, hilarious and completely outdated Gaffer's Day. Barry Rathbone 14 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:53:16 “[Scoring goals has] been a longstanding thing here. So, you know, how we find that… most managers do that by chequebook. We can't do that."Stop trying to be rational – deaf ears abound. Andrew James 15 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:55:12 He does shy away from this poor game management. His post-match pressers are like 'bad excuse' bingo.Injuries, VAR, officialdom, lack of a chequebook, legacy issues, the players... he's done them all. And that is against the teams we could've got a lot more points from. The chequebook excuse will undoubtedly come out if we get hammered by the teams we face soon. I wouldn't put it past him to defend well versus one of them and nick some unexpected points. But it's gone beyond a joke and he needs to be fired. The pinnacle of his career is Everton. We're fond of calling our players "Championship at best", well he is a coach of that level or lower. Ben Howard 16 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:57:42 Jay (13). In a nutshell, you've nailed it!Most supporters do appreciate the job Dyche did when he came in, under very difficult circumstances. However, he is becoming increasingly defensive in his comments, often suggesting that the fans' expectations are unrealistic.We appear to be going backwards under his leadership, and totally bereft of offensive ideas.“[Scoring goals has] been a longstanding thing here. So, you know, how we find that… most managers do that by chequebook. We can't do that. So, therefore, the development continues".I've seen little to no development in either our strikers or offensive patterns, and this comment reeks of excuses and desperation. Definitely time to go. Fred Quick 17 Posted 25/11/2024 at 20:01:22 Since Lukaku was sold, how much money has been invested in so-called strikers? It must be touching on £150M+. Even in this lean financial period, we've continued to purchase duds and have relied upon Calvert-Lewin to lead the line for years, and – apart from one really good season – he's not been a reliable goalscorer. John Pickles 18 Posted 25/11/2024 at 20:10:40 Can we not have a 'Dyche must go' section, where all who really have nothing else to say can drone on to their hearts content? Failing that, at least somewhere for the rest of us to read or exchange news and views about our club, with all 'Dyche must go' comments sent somewhere else.The 'Visit Ukraine' tourist website is a more upbeat site than ToffeeWeb nowadays. Ben Howard 19 Posted 25/11/2024 at 20:23:09 John (18) surely you're aware of the growing fan discontent. The last days of every manager read just like this on ToffeeWeb.Are you disagreeing with the sentiment, and therefore of the opinion he should stay and is doing a reasonable job?Or are you bored of us all seeing and saying the obvious, with little chance of it changing until new ownership? Jim Bennings 20 Posted 25/11/2024 at 20:23:30 We could have signed the Delap lad at Ipswich instead of Beto, or Chermiti, more money wasted.Broja? Okay, he's on loan but we signed him injured – and he's still injured, lol.£16M on O'Brien.Don't make out, Sean, like you haven't had the money to go and get a better striker than the one that wants to leave right now. Paul Ferry 21 Posted 25/11/2024 at 20:58:39 John Pickles 18. Daft post. This discussion is the most important one, with ownership, on these pages these days.I'm so sorry that you do not read what you would like to read on here John. But do remember that the not "Dyche must go" voices are in a minority and if anyone is put somewhere where they can "drone on to their hearts content" it will be you and others of your ilk.It would be a little Spenymoor town FC-like bunch on here if the "Dyche must go" lads and lasses were invited to pack their bags. I think that certainly one probably both of our eds/mods would go with them. As I said, what a daft post and the quality of exchange of news and views on here if John and his gang take over would be poor and low given the quality of Mr. Pickle's post.And (what did we expect?) Pickles's post ends on a daft nonsensical note that I think he thinks is smart and funny.John, you can always go and create you own little hole in the internet for your like-minded little group. Otherwise, don't log on. Read poems, have a bath, fix that door handle you said that you would take care of six months ago, or do lego. Neil Lawson 23 Posted 25/11/2024 at 21:15:35 Read Michael Ball's excellent article in the Echo. A true blue who shares our majority view and has the experience and understanding to give weight to his ( and our majority) comments.Just wondering whether the solution for Dyche is to spend more time "on the grass" in order to get tactically match fit.Glossary."Grass" What you put yourself out to do when you are of no use nor ornament"."Grass" Slang expression for controlled drug which can heighten a person's perception of reality.Either may suffice. Paul Ferry 24 Posted 25/11/2024 at 21:17:59 They are always well worth reading Neil. Dyche might also be a snitch Neil Peter Hodgson 25 Posted 25/11/2024 at 21:20:55 All Managers excel at Bull...t. Dyche is no different but it gets a bit wearing after a while doesn't it? Just listening to Pep earlier today - excuses, excuses. Even the best do it after every defeat. Never honest and say It Was The Wrong Tactics or similar. Never their fault. They are all the same in that respect. Clive Rogers 26 Posted 25/11/2024 at 21:36:31 I knew it was going to be a long, hard season before it even started. We obviously needed the centre midfield and strikers strengthening, but the other main area for me was the right flank. Young and Harrison were just not good enough and needed to be replaced. I just couldn't believe it when Young was given another year and Harrison another loan season. What's that definition of insanity? Merle Urquart 27 Posted 25/11/2024 at 21:41:52 Times up mate, you are clearly out of your depth, you were absolutely delighted with that point on Saturday...4-5-1 or whatever funky variation of it has been all the rage since 2004 because of Greece's triumph in the Euro's...its provided a living for dullards and fuckwits ever since. I'm sick of this formation its the antithesis of entertainment and l'm sick of Everton hiring managers who insist on playing the worst system ever invented...it doesn't work ! John Pickles 28 Posted 25/11/2024 at 21:53:16 Paul Ferry, if we get an adjudicator on what is funny and what isn't, I don't think it will be you! A 'Slag off anyone who puts an alternate view' position may be more suitable.Please show me where it was decided that the majority of Evertonians want Dyche sacked. Surely you aren't taking it just from postings on the site. Personally, I haven't a clue either way whether they do or don't.As you do rightly say, the ownership issue is the main issue at the moment; I just wish I could read comments on it without having to skip through the ones that offer nothing but opinions on Dyche.Ben, I think Dyche gets more stick than he deserves, but I am of the opinion that he is never going to deliver anything special. His removal may help, or it may not, that was not my point. Robert's article on possible replacements was, at least someone putting some effort in on the subject. You say that this is what the site is like when a manager is nearing the end is true, but it doesn't make for great reading. I find I am visiting the site less and less at the moment, and I usually avoid matchday threads comments altogether. Over the years, I have enjoyed many interesting and humorous posts and articles, I find them thin on the ground at the moment. I know the good stuff will be back one day. but I just find it rather a depressing place at the moment. Paul Ferry 29 Posted 25/11/2024 at 22:25:51 John Pickles: 'Please show me where it was decided that the majority of Evertonians want Dyche sacked'.I must know, jeez, 80? 90? 100? Evertonians. Not one of them who I have spoken to wants Dyche to be in the job. Not one. The only difference is about when that might best happen. We don't just move in ToffeeWeb circles when it comes to our Everton (only one of those lads and lasses to my knowledge, posts on here). I think that you can be certain that if a poll was opened for Evertonians the vast majority would want him gone. It is "depressing", John. I agree. Have you read how many on here who were at the Brentford game called it "depressing" or some variant? Dear God, even Danny O is down in the dumps. Everton is "depressing" at the moment. Even the U21s with Broja, Patterson and O'Brien starting lost 1-0 to Watford today who lost their last game 8-2! The only glimmer in the last couple of weeks has been our ladies beating the red shite with a deliciously wrong penalty decision to lift them from where – you guessed it – the bottom of the table."Depressing!" How on earth can ToffeeWeb not reflect that or do you want us all to become dead funny like Stan Boardman, Tom O'Conner, or side-splitting John Bishop and dance while the bomb drops??? Mal van Schaick 30 Posted 25/11/2024 at 22:32:58 The answer to Dyche is quite simple! You are the manager. You and your staff are on the training ground with days to get the formation and tactics right before the fixture takes place; if the results are not coming in the games, that reflects on you and your staff.If Dyche is not shying away from his poor win record, then that leaves it to the board to assess if that is good enough and act accordingly. Robert Williams 31 Posted 25/11/2024 at 22:39:39 That photo, those eyes tell the whole story. There is nothing left. It is a picture of hopelessness… emptiness… tiredness… nothing more to give.A sad photo. A photo that says he gave his all, but was still found wanting.Pity… if it was a dog, you would shoot it. Brendan McLaughlin 32 Posted 25/11/2024 at 22:48:00 Mal #30: "that leaves it to the Board to... act accordingly"Everton aren't going to be relegated under this "lame duck" board. What's the incentive for this board to do anything? Jerome Shields 33 Posted 25/11/2024 at 23:00:24 "If you can't develop individuals, you want to try to develop a team that can score goals."That's Dyche's forward policy at Everton. A low block of 1-4-4 where the wingers don't overlap but invert to provide another scoring option. So there is limited interplay, the priority is to get a shot away.The problem is that McNeil is off the boil both shooting and providing crosses from set pieces, and Calvert-Lewin is not getting into the box. Both Harrison and Mykolenko would rather get a shot away and Ndiaye didn't do either against Brentford. Doucoure and Lindstrøm are not getting in shooting positions in the box. Braithwaite and Tarkowski are not getting opportunities at set pieces. The problem with this is the play is largely in front of the defence and it suited Brentford's defensive tactics. Edward Rogers 34 Posted 25/11/2024 at 23:28:47 Bit of a gap opening up now with the Hammers winning tonight. I smell trouble… hope Dyche can too. Andrea Jacobs 35 Posted 25/11/2024 at 23:46:05 I haven't visited this site in ages but I am loving all the Dyche bashing. Get him out, please more posts about what a twat he is, this is trenches humour. Don't be so fucking sombre about it. Dyche is a dreadful manager. Fuck him. He'll be gone soon enough. No Mourinho or Moyes, please. A young thrusting Coach, who is seemingly on the way up in his career. Preferably, Austrian, under 30, no experience of the Premier League, who manages the game on a skateboard in his technical area. Mark Murphy 36 Posted 25/11/2024 at 23:56:59 You okay, Andrea?? Brendan McLaughlin 37 Posted 26/11/2024 at 00:27:49 Andrea #35"A young thrusting Coach, who is seemingly on the way up in his career. Preferably, Austrian, under 30,"Dunno about our next manager but would make for a great porn movie. "Egon does Everton"...perhaps. Alan J Thompson 38 Posted 26/11/2024 at 01:32:47 I might believe it if he had actually won something somewhere other than continually trying to avoid relegation. Paul Ferry 39 Posted 26/11/2024 at 01:47:14 Egon does Croxteth. Derek Knox 40 Posted 26/11/2024 at 03:57:18 More suited to Jurassic Park than Goodison Park! Steve Brown 41 Posted 26/11/2024 at 06:11:50 Paul and Neil, I rarely disagree with Michael Ball's articles as they are excellent - he usually calls it right. One poster was disparaging him but saying he could get the same opinions in the pubs on County Road?! Jerome Shields 42 Posted 26/11/2024 at 08:43:13 It is wishful thinking that Dyche will be replaced at Everton before the end of the season. The running of the team is not a priority for Moshiri or The Friedkin Group.The biggest problem for motivation is that the manager's contract and 9 players' contracts end this season. The players do not seem confident regarding Dyche's system. The system is defensive even in attack when the 1-4-4 low block converts by inverted wingers to an attacking formation with midfielders arriving in the box with the intention that chances fall to whoever the ball breaks to. Often players seem to be running beyond Calvert-Lewin into positions he should be in.The main problem is that the majority of the play is in front of the opposition defence. No overlapping wingers to get beyond and turn it. There was one through-ball in the Brentford game, but Calvert-Lewin needed an extra touch. 20 something set-pieces straight to the goalkeeper by McNeil didn't help. But even with that, there was no-one challenging the central area and no-one within miles of attacking the near post.The full-backs getting forward was tempered by the three breakthroughs by Brentford in the first half, which exposed a lack of pace and the need not to lose.Weak pass completion in the final third giving rise to another doubt. Even two up front did work because of a lack of interplay and no touchlines, as Everton put in nothing but diagonal balls more in hope, than actually targeting a run.Dyche has a motivational problem to sort out, with his stalwarts being off form, which is likely to get worse after Xmas. Actually playing the so-called difficult fixtures against the top half teams may suit Dyche's system better, giving more space and a higher defensive line to beat.Dyche seems to be giving the impression he is doing the best he can with players that are below par in their roles. He needs to be pushing those that are not selected for options., as well as those selected. Using competition for selection is not an option. A collective kick in the arse seems to be the only solution, Sean. Rennie Smith 43 Posted 26/11/2024 at 10:56:51 You notice that everything he says is "we", he only once uses "I" when he talks about not shying away from the fact that they're not winning. You could say that's good for morale, we're all in this together type bullshit, but to me, it just says he's still clinging to the line that it's always been shit here so just put up with it.I can't stand the fact that he always finishes with "So the work just continues". I think he even bores himself now… imagine what it's like for the players in training. And please don't say they're paid millions blah-blah, if you're turning up every day to be bored shitless and told to run up and down hills, your wages won't make you play better on a Saturday. Colin Glassar 44 Posted 26/11/2024 at 10:58:25 The photo of Dyche on the homepage seems to sum him up perfectly in my opinion. It looks like he's thinking: "I haven't got a clue what I'm doing". Steve Shave 45 Posted 26/11/2024 at 11:25:39 He's not the first manager in recent years to imply the supporters put a lot of pressure on the team. I can't wait for this to all end and some optimism to sweep through the door. Ironically, I believe that will require Sean Dyche to go out the other way. Dave Lynch 46 Posted 26/11/2024 at 11:52:36 Dyche is not an agent of change. As the Joker said in Batman:v"I'm an agent of chaos"... sums up his tactics perfectly. Alan McGuffog 47 Posted 26/11/2024 at 12:00:29 Very magnanimous of Mr Dyche. Danny O'Neill 48 Posted 26/11/2024 at 12:08:42 It's called expectation Steve. To compete and perform.I know there are generations who have had that expectation beaten out of them, but there are still many around who expect.Not what we've been watching recently. Anthony Hawkins 49 Posted 26/11/2024 at 12:53:54 I'm out of patience with Dyche. I've continually been pro-Dyche and it all started to wear thin a few games ago and we've reached that tipping point. I still doubt the interim board will push him, but the new owners will take no prisoners.He's no longer the man for the job. This season was our opportunity to push on, instead we're fading backwards. Craig Walker 50 Posted 26/11/2024 at 14:08:52 I want us to change the story. Nearly 30 years without a trophy. The new stadium is the only positive thing about our club. Martin Berry 51 Posted 26/11/2024 at 17:34:39 I am actually looking forward to our tough games coming up as we really have to try and get something. They will also define whether the manager goes sooner or later.I can't see anything changing under Dyche, he will just pray he gets lucky and then say we have turned the corner.What is more worrying is the teams around us seem to have turned the corner and have actually done something Everton don't do –score goals. Has there ever been a more miserable watch than the dross served up so far this season? Edward Rogers 52 Posted 26/11/2024 at 18:10:32 I believe the 'media' think us fans are expecting us to win leagues & cups left, right & centre. Whilst that would be nice, all we want (and expect) is for highly paid staff and players to at least try to entertain and look like they give a toss! Not too much to ask, is it? Sean McCarthy 53 Posted 26/11/2024 at 19:31:00 The sooner he's gone the better. I always said he should never have been given the job in the first place. What in his CV suggested that he was the man to get us moving upwards? He was the cheap option as he was out of work (sacked by Burnley when on their way to relegation) and with our finances the way they were, I guess that was enough for the board. He gets far too much credit from the media who always seem to give him an easy ride and when they trot out the same lines about “Dyche knows how to survive… Everton are good enough and will be okay,” it does my head in!! We are clearly not good enough playing tactics dreamt up by Dyche. Nick Armitage 54 Posted 26/11/2024 at 20:01:46 Dyche should never have been anywhere near the Everton job under any circumstances. I said it at the time. Another shockingly unimaginative decision from Thelwell. Hope he's sent packing straight after Dyche. Bernie Rogers 55 Posted 26/11/2024 at 20:10:51 To be fair to Sean Dyche, he did say it was only because of the position Everton found themselves in that he was even getting considered for the job. Stuart Sharp 56 Posted 26/11/2024 at 20:12:39 Can't agree with that, Nick. We got him in the exact circumstances when we needed someone like him, and it worked. Taking a bigger risk would have been nuts. Then he achieved safety despite points deductions.I can't stand what we're being served up just now, and my early season view that a 'better the devil you know' approach was more likely to achieve safety has now been replaced by a 'save me from this tedium and downward spiral' view. But I have zero regret about us appointing him when we did. Brendan McLaughlin 57 Posted 26/11/2024 at 20:20:46 Nick #54,Can't agree Nick. When we employed Dyche and even his immediate predecessors we were confined to bringing in managers whose recruitment didn't involve paying out any compensation.Dyche was the best of a very limited bunch. Peter Gorman 58 Posted 26/11/2024 at 20:28:03 Everybody! stop moaning on about Dyche.John Pickles has something to say anytime now. Neil Lawson 60 Posted 26/11/2024 at 21:40:28 Plymouth currently losing 6-1 at Norwich. I imagine that Wayne will be on the phone to Sean in the morning to arrange a few rounds of golf. Wonder which of them will lose the most balls? Probably not Sean. He will be using his putter off the tee to minimise risk. Rob Halligan 61 Posted 26/11/2024 at 22:00:35 Did anyone see Man City v Feyenoord? City 3 up with about 15 minutes to go, and ended up 3-3. Suicidal, kamikaze, call it whatever you want, but it was absolutely awful defending by City. I bet Pep regrets signing that new contract. Paul Hewitt 62 Posted 26/11/2024 at 22:03:48 Not earning £20M a season he won't, Rob! Paul Tran 63 Posted 26/11/2024 at 22:22:12 I know that look. I saw it in Koeman, Silva, Lampard, even in Ancelotti the day he told us he wasn't a magician – with a much better squad than this one. The look that says "This club has beaten me and I don't know what to do next."It's a matter of when. If it happens in the next few weeks, I hope they know what their next step is. Denis Richardson 64 Posted 26/11/2024 at 22:54:20 Nick 54 - I can understand the current frustration but think you'll probably think otherwise re Dyche when you look back. Lampard was taking us down and relegation would have spelt the end of this club as we know it. The only priority was to stay up - hence Dyche was hired. He was also available at the time with no compensation needing to be paid, which was a bonus. He's kept us up two seasons now, job done. Time to move on, however. Derek Thomas 65 Posted 26/11/2024 at 23:00:02 Paul Tran @ 63; Spot on. Any sort of derby debacle and he's gone – or should be.A replacement though? That's the real problem. Denis Richardson 66 Posted 26/11/2024 at 23:08:51 I see Ruud van Nistelroy now being linked to Leicester. TFG should call and tell him to go on holiday for a couple of weeks, there'll be a spot for him around mid-December. Ernie Baywood 67 Posted 27/11/2024 at 00:54:18 I actually think we've hit the point where the tactics barely matter now. He's taken this team to a stage where they act robotically and do nothing instinctively.That's been a gradual but very visible regression throughout his term. He can't turn that around now.There is only one answer. It 100% will happen. But who can step up to actually do it? And how bad does it have to get before someone will step up to actually make the change. Derek Thomas 68 Posted 27/11/2024 at 05:29:56 Ernie @ 67; "...He's taken this team to a stage where they act robotically and do nothing instinctively."And I'll add that by now nobody is unaware of the 'One Trick' our cart horses perform.It might be Interesting exercise to look again at Head Cart Horse's first game (vs Arsenal?) to compare the enshittification he's presided over.Remembering that this was a team heading only one way under Lampard with multiple capitulations either side of Christmas.I don't know how many United sacked in their purge, I can only hope their new guy is not yet fully up to speed and our 'one trick'... whatever the fuck it actually is... catches them out.I know that Slot will be fully briefed. Colin Crooks 69 Posted 28/11/2024 at 08:21:00 Paul 63Yep Nigel Scowen 70 Posted 28/11/2024 at 08:43:11 'enshittification', Derek, like it 🤣 Brian Harrison 71 Posted 28/11/2024 at 09:37:02 Somebody yesterday posted on Twitter that, for all the clubs who have been in the Premier League for the last 2 seasons, Everton have the 2nd-best defensive record only bettered by Arsenal. But we have the lowest goals scored in those 2 seasons and are 14 goals lower than any other club. I know stats don't tell the whole picture but those are pretty conclusive which shows where the fault is. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb