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Man City 1 - 1 Everton

Everton made it a hat-trick of draws against three sides that came into December sitting in the top four with a hard-earned point at the Etihad Stadium.

Iliman Ndiaye cancelled out Bernardo Silva’s opener with a lovely goal, Jordan Pickford saved an Erling Haaland penalty and the Blues spurned a couple of hugely promising chances on the counter-attack late on as the spoils were shared in this Boxing Day clash.

City came into the game in the worst run of form of Pep Guardiola’s managerial career but they appeared to have re-found their groove in the early going this afternoon with some slick movement and an early chance for Joško Gvardiol who planted a third-minute header onto the post off a corner.

The Croatian defender was involved again with 13 minutes gone when he fed the ball to Jeremy Doku and he played it inside to Silva who appeared to attempt to square it across the face of Pickford’s goal but his effort took a horrible deflection off Jarrad Branthwaite’s out-stretched leg and looped into the far corner to hand the hosts the lead.

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Everton’s first sight of goal came seven minutes later when Ndiaye slipped a pass square to Orel Mangala but his shot bent high and wide of the target.

At the other end, meanwhile, Haaland was an ever-present threat for balls played over the top for him to chase but in one such instance midway through the first period, Pickford was out smartly to snuff out the danger.

After Idrissa Gueye had tested Stefan Ortega in the 27th minute, Bernardo Silva really should have doubled City’s lead when he arrived to meet a ball delivered into space near the penalty spot but he went for a more elaborate finish with the outside of his boot and missed the target.

Three minutes after that, it was 1-1. Abdouaye Doucouré’s cross from the right grazed Manuel Akanji’s raised knee and fell to Ndiaye who took a quick touch to kill the ball and then caressed it back across Ortega into the far corner.

Guardiola’s increasingly looked to Savinho down their right early in the second half and Pickford had to be alert to parry his crisp half-volley five minutes after the break before Mateo Kovacic lashed the rebound inches wide.

Man City appeared to have been handed their lead back on a platter, however, when Savinho tempted Vitalii Mykolenko into a rash challenge in the box and referee Steve Hooper pointed to the spot.

Seamus Coleman was booked for delaying Halaand’s preparations for the spot-kick and Pickford gave him the eyes and a few off-putting faces before guessing the right way and pushing the Norwegian’s penalty away from goal.

The loose ball was crossed back in for Haaland to simply head into the empty net but he had clearly been in an offside position and the “goal” was ruled out.

Instead it was Everton who almost stole the points. First, in the 67th minute, Doucouré’s far-post volley almost crept in before Rico Lewis diverted it behind.

Then, in the 83rd, another speculative Mangala effort took a wicked deflection and bounced just wide of Ortega’s goal.

Despite the introduction of Kevin de Bruyne, City struggled to make inroads into Everton’s defence and with any guile in the final third, Sean Dyche’s men might well have pitched the points.

Unfortunately, two stoppage-time breakaways came to nothing, with Jack Harrison failing to even work the keeper with the second opportunity.

Still, the Toffees were good value for a point which keeps them unbeaten since that horror show at Old Trafford at the start of the month.

 

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Mike Gaynes
1 Posted 27/12/2024 at 07:12:09
As Carly Simon sang, nobody does it better.

I remain convinced he is one of the best shot-stoppers on the planet.

Mike Gaynes
2 Posted 27/12/2024 at 07:21:47
This is the 8th penalty Pickford has saved for Everton (7 in league play, one in a Europa League qualifier), breaking the club record he had jointly held with Big Nev and Tim Howard.
Jeff Armstrong
3 Posted 27/12/2024 at 11:08:31
In probably less than half the games Neville played too, Mike.

Obviously the true stat would be penalties faced.

Stu Gre
4 Posted 27/12/2024 at 11:09:33
Mike, completely agree. Pickford is underrated by so many. Joe Hart on Match of The Day last night (not sure if you get that) pointed out that there is more than 1 way to be a great keeper.

Jordan's stats are amazing in a team struggling at the bottom, year-in & year-out. I hope we tie him down to a long contract, he's kept us in the Premier League.

Anthony Hawkins
5 Posted 27/12/2024 at 11:25:10
Pickford aside, Ndiaye is a brilliant player and, with a more potent striker, I think we'd see just how good he is.

The team has a handful of quality players who could be the spine of a fantastic team if better quality players can be brought in.

Harrison, whilst he's done a job for us, just is not good enough. His final effort was terrible when we overloaded City's defence. He had to do better.

Mal van Schaick
6 Posted 27/12/2024 at 11:41:18
I would keep Pickford and rebuild over the next few seasons in order that we have a top team gracing our New Stadium and pitch.

Trophies and a better league position would be a bonus, and I don't think that we are far off that ambition with new ownership.

Jim Bennings
7 Posted 27/12/2024 at 11:49:53
Pickford has made himself a presence now in terms of opponents know that they have to beat the best English goalkeeper to score, coupled with facing people like Tarkowski and Branthwaite it's easy to see why teams don't enjoy coming up against it.

Just a shame that we can't get more potent attacking talent to match Ndiaye.

Dave Abrahams
8 Posted 27/12/2024 at 12:44:47
Lyndon Lloyd: “ Pickford plays hero again as Everton earn another point”

Michael Kenrick: “Another top draw thanks to Pickford's penalty save”

Didn't Ndiaye play and score that goal that also helped us to get that draw?

Not to mention Malanga, Tarkowski, Gueye and Branthwaite. I don't begrudge Pickford being in line for MotM but he helped the team gain a point — he didn't do it on his own!

Ben King
9 Posted 27/12/2024 at 13:10:19
Dave #8,

Absolutely spot on but I think the sentiment is that, had the penalty gone in (I'm one of the few people that thought it was soft: Savinho was already on his way down), then it'd have been another hard luck story

There's so much more about this team now and Dyche deserves huge credit. We do need to reinforce in attacking areas – particularly right wing where Harrison is next to useless.

If we could give Dyche some proper reinforcements to help, I think we'd see a difference.

Mike Connolly
10 Posted 27/12/2024 at 13:12:27
I’m glad people on here are praising Pickford rightfully. the media doesn’t think he exist Until last night on MOTD
Christopher Timmins
11 Posted 27/12/2024 at 13:23:33
England's number 1!
Tony Abrahams
12 Posted 27/12/2024 at 15:48:30
Such is the nature of modern football, I honestly don't know what is and isn't a penalty on a lot of occasions nowadays, Ben.

It would be interesting to hear your view of why you don't think it was a penalty, mate?

Dave Abrahams
13 Posted 27/12/2024 at 17:33:59
Ben (9)

Fair enough, and you were honest enough to admit you were one of the few who thought it was a soft penalty.

I've got to be honest myself, I don't rate Mylolenko so there is a bit, or more, of bias in my thinking that it was a very rash tackle considering where it took place and he kicks him right on the knee as he follows through.

I don't think there was any need for VAR.

Tony Abrahams
14 Posted 27/12/2024 at 17:48:13
Watch it again, Dave, and you might just have a different view of it. You might not but I'm certain that the City winger stretches when he sees the tackle coming, to make sure he gets there first and win the penalty.

Nothing wrong with this, especially in the modern game, but I personally thought he slipped before he got tackled because he's overstretching, and this is why I'm not always sure what is and isn't a penalty nowadays because a lot of today's decisions, especially when they've been rerun a few times, can be so subjective.

You couldn't argue with the decision but it's something that I feel that a different VAR might sometimes interpret differently.

Dave Abrahams
15 Posted 27/12/2024 at 17:56:27
Tony (14),

Not taking the piss mate but I think, after watching it three or four times, that the only thing getting stretched is your imagination!

Dave Abrahams
16 Posted 27/12/2024 at 17:59:06
Tony (14),

On second thoughts, I was taking the piss, sorry about that.

Mike Gaynes
17 Posted 27/12/2024 at 18:00:29
Dave, I don't know what's happened to Mykolenko.

Last season, he was a lockdown defender, pretty much unbeatable off the dribble.

This season year he's been visibly slower, which shouldn't happen at 25, and much easier to beat. And he's been caught egregiously out of position on a couple of game-losing goals.

Dave Abrahams
18 Posted 27/12/2024 at 18:14:45
Mike, he was better last season, not sure about unbeatable off the dribble but he is a weak spot in the team this season although even when he has been poor, in recent games he has put in a couple of well-timed tackles — my bias put them down to luck!
Liam Mogan
20 Posted 27/12/2024 at 18:42:09
Jack 'hit the first man' Harrison is a bang average player but Broja took too long on the ball and should have played it left, where Gueye and Doucoure were free.

Harrison was always going to look at his feet, control the ball and then check inside. Must be the easiest player to defend against in the top flight.

Christine Foster
21 Posted 27/12/2024 at 18:46:53
Tony,

I went back and looked at the incident a couple of times and he defo played for the penalty, looking for it I think is the term I'd use. But, as football is now a contactless sport, Hooper, who was as biased a ref I have seen all year, was always going to give it.

There was always only one outcome, play acting winger, full back who was being laced all day, and a ref eager to please the home team. Yep, job done, Mr Hooper, go back to Seasame Street, you Muppet.

Martin Farrington
24 Posted 27/12/2024 at 19:42:55
Christine @21, you are spot on about Hooper. We have dreadful, inept and incompetent referees in the Premier League, led by one of the worst of all time.

Hooper's blatant bias was clearly one of the most embarrassingly obvious I have seen for some time. Brandishing yellow cards each time a City player faked yet another tumble.

As for the penalty, if you look, the player had lost his footing. His foot sinks into the turf causing him to slip, then when already halfway down, in comes a hapless Mykolenko waving a leg that doesn't connect by his movement, in fact it is clearly the other way around.

Pause that. Reverse the situation to the City box and there is not a chance in the world we get a penalty.

With the lies of Webb supporting the disgusting Calvert-Lewin hack-down which was not given, but absurdly presented as Calvert-Lewin's fault, still ringing untruly in my ears, there was never a doubt it would be given.

Jeff Armstrong
26 Posted 27/12/2024 at 19:55:34
Liam 20, spot on, that is how I saw it too, Broja should have released the ball 20 yards earlier, to his left.

Harrison was always going to control it, and then come onto his favoured left foot. I'm not sure what the other two would have done with it though.

I think we've got a problem as our very few better players don't trust the likes of Mykolenko, Doucoure, Harrison and are reluctant to pass to them. Ndiaye especially doesn't trust Mykolenko or Doucoure, and sometimes tries to do too much on his own.

Dave Abrahams
27 Posted 27/12/2024 at 19:59:58
Jeff (26),

Yes, that “Twenty yards earlier” makes a big difference to what might have been!

Derek Thomas
29 Posted 27/12/2024 at 21:08:48
There's a vacancy at Stoke, tailor made for the best boiled egg we know
Paul Ferry
30 Posted 27/12/2024 at 21:23:08
Dyche and Stoke would be a match made in heaven – just like Thora Hird and Arthur Mullard.

One quick look at Dyche and you just know that he loves oatcakes.

Michael Kenrick
31 Posted 27/12/2024 at 21:44:19
Really, Dave @8?

You're gonna challenge the concept of 'The Headline'? You want to see a full match description instead of pinning it on what is arguably one of the more important moments of the match?

And not an everyday occurrence either. Pickford has saved eight penalties in as many years. Don't you think that might warrant a mention perhaps – especially as it preserves the draw that had been hard won at that point?

Yes, it was a fine goal by Ndiaye (get his name right, for fuck's sake!) but it would have meant next to nothing if Pickford had not saved that penalty.

And at that point in the game, it was all down to Pickford. With a sly and sneaky contribution from Coleman that would have required a paragraph and a half to summarize.

Show some blooming gratitude that we give you the headlines straight and not like that maddening clickbait shite that seems all the vogue on the NewsNow feed.

Merry Christmas!

Brian Williams
32 Posted 27/12/2024 at 21:50:12
Dave the Grinch!

Dave, a penalty save is much less common than a goal being scored.

The headline almost writes itself mate.

Brendan McLaughlin
33 Posted 27/12/2024 at 21:57:17
Brian #32

Bit unfair on the Grinch...

Brian Williams
34 Posted 27/12/2024 at 21:58:33
🤣
Paul Ferry
35 Posted 27/12/2024 at 22:06:59
How about "Rare Penalty Save and Rare Goal Secure Priceless Draw for Valiant Blues'.
Mike Gaynes
36 Posted 27/12/2024 at 22:22:15
Apparently everybody on the other thread was drinking too heavily to notice that I described Dom as "a striker who can't shoot" and lost their shit over my subsequent sentence that he never scored a great "goal" instead of "strike." Some people just look for reasons to melt down.

However, I stand by the point, which is that nobody has ever seen Calvert-Lewin rip a really great shot like we've seen from even non-strikers like Keane and McNeil and Townsend.

The top corner is alien territory to Dom. Even the kind of side-netting outside-of-the-foot drive like Ndiaye pulled off yesterday is totally beyond his abilities. Hell, Gana's swerving shot off the underside of the crossbar a few weeks ago is something Dom could never even dream of trying.

As I said on the other thread, Dom can do lots of fine things on a football pitch. Taking a powerful shot is not one of them.

Brian Williams
37 Posted 27/12/2024 at 22:26:59
Mike. I didn't lose my shit I just disagreed.

You posted "but he has never in his career scored a great goal."

I still disagree.

Paul Ferry
38 Posted 27/12/2024 at 22:32:49
You don't wiggle out of it that easily, Mike. It is clear as daylight. You are actually misrepresenting yourself. This is what you wrote: "He has never in his career scored a great goal". Where the feck is 'strike' in that?

And you now reduce things to 'taking a powerful shot'! That's a wiggle. Powerful headers, apparently, are not 'great goals'.

I find it very perplexing (and unlike you) that you actually have a pop at people for responding to tell you erm you're wrong. And you simply push to one side all the examples and links others have given you to show you how wrong you are. And remember what me and others have said about the 'occasion'?

And why insult good people by claiming they are in a 'meltdown' or losing their shit? That, too, is bollocks, Mike. Your original mistake hardly merits any definition of 'meltdown' that I am familiar with.

Andy Meighan
39 Posted 27/12/2024 at 22:40:40
The greatest goalkeeper we've had since the great Nev, best I've ever seen, yet some on here still feel Pickford isn't all that.

Dave Abrahams, this goes out to you, I'm sure you're a nice fella, but could you name me one goalkeeper out there who would be half as good as Jordan Pickford?

I've got news for you, there isn't a single one – the lad has made a couple of mistakes in all his time here but they are few and far between.

I've seen the 2 overrated goalies of Liverpool and Man City make far more mistakes than England's No 1 – it's because he plays for us he doesn't get any credit.

I'm dreading the day he goes because where we would be without him? God himself only knows.

Did you hear the away end yesterday, everyone to a man sang his name.

Andy Meighan
40 Posted 27/12/2024 at 22:44:15
Mike Gaynes.

What is a "lockdown defender pretty much unbeatable on the dribble"?

Is that an Americanism because, in all my years of going the game, I've never heard a statement like that before.

Tony Abrahams
41 Posted 27/12/2024 at 22:55:03
Where's Noddy Holder when you need him?

Don't call Dave “The Grinch”, Brian, listen to Brendan because I thought Dave was very unfair to me earlier in this thread, and I'm definitely known as the Grinch in our family!

I wish it could Christmas everyday…. Seriously, I couldn't think of anything fuckin worse!!

Jeff Armstrong
42 Posted 27/12/2024 at 23:02:52
Michael 31,

You seem to forget that Dave doesn't rate Pickford, hence his upset at the headline, you need to think of these things when writing the headline please.

“Fantastic Ndiaye goal supplements penalty save by Everton's goalkeeper “

Mike Gaynes
43 Posted 27/12/2024 at 23:06:51
Brian #37, I didn't mean you.

At post #38 you can see a fine example of "losing their shit"... over one word: "goal" instead of "strike".

Clearly and obviously my point was that Dom cannot shoot a football. He has scored great goals, all but one with his head. The Arsenal bike was the only great goal I've ever seen him score with his foot.

If you've got another nominee, shoot me a link. I didn't see one in the 50.

James Hughes
44 Posted 27/12/2024 at 23:08:36
Mike, I didn't see people losing their collective shit on the other thread.

However, you are still posting shit on this one and trying to back out what you posted. Lol and all the best!

Paul Ferry
45 Posted 27/12/2024 at 23:10:38
Phew! It's lucky that we in 'meltdown' who lose our shit and drink 'too heavily' have you around to correct us, Mike.

But clearly not 'too heavily' that we could not spot a wrong statement about Calvert-Lewin. But, in your words, we were and therefore could not understand the superior subtlety of your more erudite post.

The problem might be that, probably like me, we have not had a drink today – and yep, the post is wrong.

Mike Gaynes
46 Posted 27/12/2024 at 23:15:45
Not trying to back out at all, James. Calvert-Lewin is a striker who cannot shoot. I have stood by the statement on both threads, and nobody has presented one iota of evidence, either video or even anecdotal, to refute it.

Can you? What's the best shot you've ever seen him hit? If anybody can show me even one example that remotely looks like Keane against Chelsea or McNeil against Palace or even Ndiaye yesterday, I'll happily eat my words.

In the meantime I'll have lunch to ward off starvation.

Paul Kossoff
47 Posted 27/12/2024 at 23:45:08
Does anyone think that Man City's collapse is because they have been told that the Premier League are going to throw the books at them soon? What's the point in winning the title if you have been told that a points deduction will take it off them?

A collapse unheard of from Pep or one of his teams can't be anything else. Wait and see, if come the judgement day, and Man City are fed to the pigs, then that's the reason they have stopped and maybe dropped.

Don Alexander
49 Posted 28/12/2024 at 01:33:10
Dear Mike, shame on you in forgetting the sworn testimony on here of one "DH" (and I don't mean "Dick Head", in case you're wondering) who repeatedly assured us all of Calvert-Lewin's fabulous, witnessed by him, shooting whilst training at Finch Farm some 2 years ago.

For the record, Calvert-Lewin impresses me on account of his drive and excellent heading ability but for many, many years now Goodison Park has been the last Premier League club ever – amid strong competition every now and then from absolute no-hoper clubs – for any aspirational striker to thrive in joining us.

Everton, Rooney aside, destroy their strikers – but to his advantage, he buggered off to world-wide glory.

Answers on a postcard please, folks, for the name of the shyster bastard who reduced us to where we've been for decades, and still remain?

Denis Richardson
50 Posted 28/12/2024 at 03:05:23
I have to admit to enjoying Calvert-Lewin "great goal – no great goal" gate unfolding. But alas I have run out of popcorn.

I think I know what Mike is getting at but it's a tad harsh on Dom as he's a classic No 9. His main asset is getting on the end of crosses and leaping like the proverbial salmon. He's not a Brazilian Ronaldo who's going to jink past 3 or 4 players and smash it into the top corner.

Calvert Lewin, when given decent service from the wings, is one of the best 6-yard-box finishers in the league. Unfortunately, our play the last few seasons has been safety first and he's had to battle against 2-3 defenders on his own, with little to no service.

Watch his 50 league goals below and see how many excellent headers he scores from decent crosses. As for shots, there are also a couple of excellent finishes. He's just a lot better heading than shooting.

He's been a great asset for us and would undoubtedly have scored more goals if we had more attacking intent. The Ancelotti period is there for all to see with the service he was getting.

If we don't change our style of play I'd wish him all the best elsewhere, somewhere the tactics play to his strengths. If Dyche is being let go, I'd hope Dom stays.

Steve Brown
52 Posted 28/12/2024 at 03:06:52
Calvert-Lewin is off to Fiorentina, and Beto is going to Roma according to the rumours.

The future is Broja (if we activate the £30 million buy clause), and Chermiti.

Paul Ferry
54 Posted 28/12/2024 at 03:13:36
Steve 52. that's very bad news if that is what ends up happening.

With no replacement, we would be relying on Broja who has a poor injury record (and not a great scoring one) and Chermti who is injured.

Denis Richardson
55 Posted 28/12/2024 at 03:59:33
Steve 52, with Dom's contract up in 6 months, he's going to be linked with loads of clubs – unsurprisingly. Any club willing to put decent crosses into the box is going to get a striker in his prime for nought.

Barcodes have been eying him for a while and, if Isak goes to Arsenal, I can see Dom ending up there. Then again, he loves fashion, so Italy may prove too good to turn down.

As for Beto, anyone willing to pay most of what we owe will get him. Loved to have seen him succeed but he just doesn't look up to Premier League standard.

I hope our future isn't around a loanee yet to play more than 20 minutes or a 20-year-old with barely a couple dozen appearances to his name.

Mike Gaynes
58 Posted 28/12/2024 at 06:05:39
Denis #50, all true… but I believe there's more to what Ancelotti did for Calvert-Lewin than just telling him to stay in the box and making sure he got better service.

In his younger years, Dom sometimes had trouble getting on the end of crosses because he was reactive and would wait to see where the ball was going before making his move.

I believe -- with no evidence other than my eyes -- that Carlo coached him on being proactive, on totally committing to making runs to either post even before the cross was made, leaving defenders trailing behind him.

Carlo has managed some of the world's best strikers and played against others, and I remember reading a quote many years ago that I cannot now recall who from -- maybe Gerd Mueller or Just Fontaine -- to the effect that "a true striker is willing to make a hundred runs to score one goal."

I think it's highly likely Carlo taught Dom that principle or something similar, because I saw Dom do it.

Paul Ferry
66 Posted 28/12/2024 at 07:44:05
I just read this: 'Ashley Young. has been the most reliable defender for attacking or defensive returns in Fantasy this season'.

That is, he consistently performs better than any other defender. Wow!

Dave Abrahams
76 Posted 28/12/2024 at 09:25:30
Mike (@46),

Have a look at the Dominic goal scored against Swansea, I think the last goal in a 3-0 win at Swansea not sure who provided the pass, anyway see what you think of Dominic's goal.

Brian Harrison
78 Posted 28/12/2024 at 10:11:57
We can discuss the merits of Calvert-Lewin and our other strikers but the stats show only Southampton have scored less goals than we have. So it's either the fault of the players or the system they are being asked to play or both.

But with just 15 goals in 17 games, if that trend continues, then we might be in for yet another nervous end to the season unless things are changed.

Considering we scored 4 against Wolves in our total of 15 goals, it just highlights how inept we are in scoring goals.

Tony Abrahams
79 Posted 28/12/2024 at 10:22:00
Sanity from Dennis @50, and although your observation might be correct, Mike, I'd argue different simply because it looks like Dominic has stopped anticipating.

He hit a purple patch under Ancelotti but so did Everton for about the first six or seven games of the lockdown season when we suddenly started playing in a style befitting of the School of Science.

It didn't last and, after losing Rodriguez to injury, and then the realisation that he no longer had the hunger or the drive to play on a consistent basis, it wasn't long before Carlo had us playing in a very pragmatic nature.

My favourite Calvert-Lewin goal of that season was the header at home to Liverpool. I remember reading after that game how the people on the Liverpool bench were saying that, as soon as Digne stood up the cross, the noise from the Everton bench had already started.

I've just looked at our results and we have failed to score in nine Premier League games so far this season, Brian. More than half.

Brian Harrison
80 Posted 28/12/2024 at 10:31:04
Just read an article stating that there are at present only 2 full-time English managers in the Premier League: Sean Dyche and Eddie Howe. I know the Ipswich manager Kieran McKenna was English-born, he was brought up in Northern Ireland.

I can't think of another national league to have so few nationals in charge of their teams. St George's Park was supposed to help develop English players and English coaches… seems that has drastically failed.

Why is it that we no longer produce top managers and coaches, yet still produce top players? We have had some of the world's top managers work in the Premier League yet we haven't had any young English coach benefit from having these top coaches.

When the Premier League, started there were 16 British managers… so what's happened? I wonder is it many clubs are foreign-owned… is that a reason?

Tony Abrahams
81 Posted 28/12/2024 at 10:41:06
I doubt that's the reason, Brian, although I might be wrong. I see people criticising managers for not playing young players, and think the same thing might apply to British managers.

If you're good enough you will get a chance, ask Cole Palmer, who hasn't looked back since he left Guardiola!

Seriously, though, who was put in charge of young British coaches, at St George's Park?

That's the question I'd be asking, because my own view is that, if you want to be the best, get the best people available for the job.

Martin Mason
82 Posted 28/12/2024 at 10:41:19
We can rightfully say well done after recent performances but we are still very much in the relegation zone after these results because these great performances related to single points won only.

Well done has to now progress to wins to get us clear of the drop zone. Some of the others around and below us are starting to get decent results and we need some 3-pointers.

Christine Foster
83 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:03:03
Got to admit I feared December because we were playing so negatively and we were just about playing all of the Top 6 one after each other. Sitting directly above the relegation places, it's not hard to see where the trepidation came from.

Three staunch defensive performances earned 3 points where I thought none would be coming. In fact, we could have or should have pinched it in two games, but the football is pretty dire going forward, which is why I was pleased Seamus had a good game.

As Martin points out, we need to convert these draws into wins, hold them for an hour, change it and attack, score, defend. Simple game is footy...

So, I suspect those three wins have guaranteed Dyche seeing out his contract… but he has to build on such draws and get more points on the board.

Adam Oakensworth
84 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:12:21
Unfortunately, Dom's first touch and control often let him down, as was the case a couple of times against City. The way Broja brought the ball down, turned, and ran at the defence in that last-minute breakaway was something I don't think Dom could do.

I would start Broja next game and I also thought Lindstrøm had another good cameo. Harrison tries hard but is just not good enough. With a front 3 of Ndiaye, Broja and Lindstrom (and maybe McNeil in for Doucoucre), I think we might start scoring some goals!

Jack Convery
85 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:13:44
Loving the effort being put in to get these 3 points. However, it's still 3 wins all season.

Do we practice breakaway attacks? After watching Broja, Harrison, Gueye and Doucoure - 4 against 2, I doubt it.

Forest are going to be hard nut to crack on Sunday. COYBs.

Tony Abrahams
86 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:19:58
He has to build on wins and also the style of football, Christine.

I remember reading the matchday thread of the Bournemouth game whilst I was on holiday; it was jubilation that seemed to be connected to both the score line and also the football we appeared to be playing that day.

The jubilation went to despair very quickly and people who had been giving Dyche a little bit of praise suddenly wanted him out the club that same night.

With Branthwaite returning, even though he's nowhere near his best just yet, the team looks a lot more confident defensively. Now this base is being achieved once again, then it's imperative that Dyche moves on to making us a lot more fluent offensively.

One thing that is really underestimated imo is pressure. When was the last time we watched an Everton team playing without pressure?

Since Ancelotti departed and Benitez arrived, I think the one consistent has been that the Everton team has been playing under enormous pressure, and just as it was beginning to lift last season, they hit us with a 10-point deduction.

My wish for now is another good wide player. A player who can get us up the pitch quickly and help us turn defence into attack with speed and quality, and because I'm not greedy, I'd settle for this right now, especially if it helps us win the FA Cup.

Tony Abrahams
87 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:27:23
If we don't get that wide player, I'd play the biggest headache we have in our squad out wide.

I can't believe they haven't looked at playing Doucoure out wide because his biggest attribute is running in straight lines and his second biggest attribute is his physical presence.

He can't pass water at times but, his strength and energy are made for playing out wide in this team – especially when I watch Lindstrøm struggling out wide because he doesn't possess these attributes.

I watch Doucoure struggling to make the right pass and this is something that I'm sure might just be Lindstrøm's biggest strength.

Brian Williams
88 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:28:48
Calvert-Lewin is a striker who cannot shoot. I have stood by the statement on both threads, and nobody has presented one iota of evidence, either video or even anecdotal, to refute it.

Mike, that's just not true mate.

Nigel Scowen
89 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:29:15
The teams that are catching us at the moment are Wolves and Crystal Palace who I never saw as relegation candidates anyway.

The three promoted teams have picked up, over the last two games, one point in total between them, and that was Southampton who are miles behind.

I'm not advocating it at all as a strategy in any way but, if we carry on with one point a game, we will finish about 8 points above the relegation zone.

We will be fine, the Bottom 3 are complete rubbish and we have them all to play at home. If we beat Forest tomorrow, we will be at least 5 points above the relegation zone after the December of death.

Mark Murphy
90 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:54:44
Off the top of my head, Calvert-Lewin scored a belter at West Ham last season. A clever turn and he twatted it past the keeper from the edge of the box.

If I could be arsed, I'd remember more but, to be honest, Mike G, it's a bit of a silly statement.

Not silly enough to cause all this arsiness though…

Peace to all men – including Yankee doodles….(but not that lot, even lickle baby ones!)

Adam, I don't agree with your assessment of Calvert-Lewin's lack of skill. I watch him closely at games and he is an excellent footballer – just not a good finisher.

Martin Mason
91 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:56:00
Brian @88,

As you have provided zero evidence for your statement. If you want to see your evidence of Calvert-Lewin's skills, all you have to do is bury your blind prejudice, open your eyes and look.

All I need to say about some of the comments on player ability here is that they include criticism of Pickford, that is, they have no basis or credibility whatsoever.

Calvert-Lewin has mitigating circumstances too in that he is forced to play as a target man in a very poor side; he is far better than a target man and this very poor side can't get the ball to him.

Shame on some of you.

Mark Murphy
92 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:57:30
Martin,

Brian is quoting Mike G. Brian refutes it.

Hope you are well?

Stephen Meighan
93 Posted 28/12/2024 at 11:58:58
Tony Abrahams @87.

I can't honestly believe you're advocating playing Doucoure out wide. I usually enjoy reading your posts but I'd have to totally disagree with you on this one.

Doucoure is one clumsy footballer, he used to pop up with the odd goal now and again but now he's not even doing that. To be fair, he's not the only one.

But playing Doucoure out wide would be criminal. The sooner we move him and his over-inflated wages on, the better.

Martin Mason
94 Posted 28/12/2024 at 12:07:28
So sorry, Mark and Brian.

I'm great, Mark, just back from Malta and packing to see the rest of winter out in Malaysia. I'm dry again after a really bad fall off the wagon for 3 months after a year dry.

To see a week in Malta out on an all-in package with a couple of heavy drinkers was a success. New Year's Eve at Kaoh's (Thai) place will be a real test.

Mark Murphy
95 Posted 28/12/2024 at 12:07:51
Anyway, Pickford was brilliant again!

>I've put on 5 kg of humble pie since September!

Tony Abrahams
96 Posted 28/12/2024 at 12:29:20
You have done very well not drinking in that company, Martin, so hopefully you can stay off the booze, mate.

I love the booze but it doesn't like me and the suffering just doesn't seem worth it anymore, especially after going a good few months without touching a drop, because it was after I did this that I really began to feel the benefits.

It's different in the sunshine though, so enjoy Malaysia, and try and learn to just have a few, mate. Although this is something I've just never been able to learn myself so I'm better keeping my mouth shut and saying nothing!!

Don't forget there's still a ticket waiting for you to see Goodison before it closes its doors for ever, Martin, and if it's in the spring, I might even have a little drink with you and mad Mark!!

Martin Mason
97 Posted 28/12/2024 at 13:00:48
Thanks very much, Tony, I will take up your offer on the ticket especially if I can talk Mark into coming up with me.

Thanks for the encouragement on the booze too. I'd always been a bit of a drinker but got into a pretty bad state working away on my own in places like Kazakhstan and Kurdistan and then wasn't ready for retirement and got even worse.

I'm feeling marvellous now and as always looking forward to Malaysia for the UK bad months. My wonderful missus is Malaysian and we have a condo in Kuching, Sarawak, I love it and if the Blues can just improve bit by bit now, I'll be ecstatic.

Best Wishes everybody, good times are coming.

Mark Murphy
98 Posted 28/12/2024 at 13:26:01
Mad Mark!! I resemble that remark, Tone!

Martin, I'll drive you to Goodison Park when you're back from Malaysia – just let me know when and in the meantime, enjoy!

Tone, I used to flirt with madness it's true. But then they took out a restraining order…

Brian Williams
99 Posted 28/12/2024 at 13:53:03
Thanks, Mark.

Apology accepted, Martin.

Colin Crooks
100 Posted 28/12/2024 at 14:16:53
Mike's right... Well, he's right to a degree.

The idea that somebody who has reached Premier League standard is unable to hit a screamer into the top corner is a little for the birds (12-year-old girls can do it today), but Calvert-Lewin is all about the coaching manual. He gets over the ball, keeps it low, and tries to "work the keeper". They invariably save it. He does not release the kind of uninhibited strike Mike is talking about. One that will either fly into the top corner, or ends up in the stands

If a ball drops to Calvert-Lewin from the sky near the edge of the box, he will want to get it under control and recycle it. That's his game. The way he has been coached. He will not try his luck by unleashing the full-blooded thunderbolt.

Shearer put more of these shots over the Gallowgate roof than in the back of the net, but he always bought a ticket and will forever be remembered by Skunks for spectacularly winning the lottery on more than one occasion.

Most Premier League players can do a lot more than we see them do on Saturday avy's. There is a definite difference between "can't" and "won't dare try".

Tony Abrahams
101 Posted 28/12/2024 at 14:52:44
I don't think I've ever had anything in common with anyone who isn't a little bit mad, Mark, but you sound like you're on top of things, which isn't always the case when the self-inflicted demons get the better of us.

Enjoy Malaysia, Martin, and especially getting away from the worst of the English weather mate. I don't mind the cold but the dark and the damp can be really depressing, although now we have passed the shortest day, things definitely begin to feel better in my own head!

Mark Murphy
102 Posted 28/12/2024 at 18:02:06
My demon gets the odd run out, Tone, especially on match days… it helps ease the pain of 90 minutes of cagey heroic defending our own free kicks.

At home, I have the help and advice of my fishwife harpie, sorry, lovely wife, who never fails to suggest that sexy time is not on the menu when I've had one too many…

Mind, it's funny how it's not on the menu when I'm stone cold sober either, so might as well… Hic!


Cheers and UTFT

Nigel Scowen
103 Posted 28/12/2024 at 18:09:42
Mark @95,

I'll be happy with 5 kg, Mark! 😃

Paul Ferry
104 Posted 28/12/2024 at 19:45:20
Mark (102),

Are you aware of attitudes towards fishwives in 16th and 17th Century London, especially in and around Billingsgate Market?

(Did I hear somewhere that Billingsgate is being closed down for good?)

Tony Abrahams
105 Posted 28/12/2024 at 21:02:08
All opinions, Stephen @93; with our current squad, that is exactly what I'd try and do.

He is a clumsy footballer but I'm certain he would be a lot harder to play against than Jack Harrison for any wide midfielder or full-back. Until we get better, it's just something that I can't believe hasn't been considered.

Mark Murphy
106 Posted 29/12/2024 at 12:09:24
It is, Paul, in 2028.

Were they loud and frowny with a Presbyterian attitude to having a drink and watching football?

Wasn't Molly Malone a fishwife, by the way?

Tony Abrahams
107 Posted 29/12/2024 at 13:40:28
Just listening to Sinaed O'Connor, with the voice of an angel, (if there's a heaven, I hope she got there) “Crying cockles & mussels - alive - alive - O”

What a brave kid Sinaed was, and how those American celebrities turned on her when she ripped up the picture of Pope John Paul II (who was without doubt my favourite Pope – the man who was born in Poland) on Saturday Night Live.

The public backlash was just as bad, with the gutsy girl from Ireland castigated for essentially speaking the truth.

The truth is out there but the clever politicians and the conmen are incredibly adept at hiding it from the people!

I'm excited going to Goodison today, I don't know why because I've had such a downer on my football club…. But Everton touched me over 50 years ago, and have always been a big part of me, ever since.

Maybe it's because I'm taking my daughter, who has always been a little Toffee (unlike her twin brother, who had to be persuaded) so hopefully she brings us some luck!


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