The Old Gray Lady of 33rd Street

, 30 October, 6comments  |  Jump to most recent
One of our readers recently came across an article about the Baltimore Memorial Stadium, known affectionately as “The Old Gray Lady of 33rd Street” (maybe some linkage there!). This stadium was built in 1949 but has since been demolished and the sports facilities relocated to a new postmodern retro stadium.

With growing stories from across the Park of the refurbishment and expansion of Anfield, plus our own ongoing and unresolved questions about Goodison Park and whether to stay or go, it's a heartrending tale of the pros and cons of ground relocation and the spirits of the old stadium still living on... [Thanks to Stephen Bate for submitting this news item]

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Bob Hannigan
1 Posted 30/10/2012 at 20:59:54
I know it's probably abhorrent to most football supporters [both sides] in Liverpool, however, I feel the most cost effective solution for both the Blue and the red sides is to enter into a contract for stadium sharing. NO, NOT forever, simply a temporary arrangement while each club totally rebuilds their venue. Flip a Euro to see who goes 1st.

I'm in the US of A, more particularly, Boston and initially I felt the new reds owners should have purchased Everton, that is until their front office meddling has shown it's ugly head and worn on their teams on both sides of the Atlantic.

In Boston, the Fenway Sports Group rebuilt olde Fenway Park over time and have converted it into a decent venue. It still retains much the same "character", on the same "footprint" as the olde park I grew up with. Construction was done in each off season over about 10 years.

This year Fenway celebrated its 100 anniversary. It opened just as the Titanic was sinking. In my mind they could have done things a bit different, but it's fine as is. The seats are still small [thankfully I fit in them] and they face mostly in the wrong direction but the structure was strengthened, new locker rooms, training areas, slightly increased seating capacity, better restrooms, improved and many more food service facilities. All around a decent job.

The previous owners faced similar problems as Everton, blocked politically in building a new facility in other areas of the city, you name it in Liverpool, it happened in Boston. Way too many hands out!

So guys, suck it up, share the grounds for a few years, but more importantly the Blues need to finish in the TOP 4 this season.
Chris Williamson
2 Posted 31/10/2012 at 10:05:16
Bob - sensible suggestion - but a) we don't use Euros over here - haven't you heard? and b) Liverpool would contrive to win the flip and be first in their shiny new home and get all the attention / sponsors / investment / media coverage / fawning praise from the red controlled BBC sports dept.
Joe Bibb
3 Posted 31/10/2012 at 10:35:19
I wouldn't share a bath with them unless I had a wet suit on.
Colin Potter
4 Posted 31/10/2012 at 14:39:49
A wet suit wouldn't save you from that scum Joe!
Brent Stephens
5 Posted 31/10/2012 at 15:18:55
Bob, you say seats "face mostly in the wrong direction". I have this image of the seats all being turned through 180 degrees, away from the playing area! It would suit Man City fans.

You also say " initially I felt the new reds owners should have purchased Everton, that is until their front office meddling has shown it's ugly head and worn on their teams on both sides of the Atlantic". Can you expand on that? Thanks.

Bob Hannigan
6 Posted 31/10/2012 at 16:16:46
Chris (#480); You are obviously correct, I was going to say sovereigns but I misspoke, GBP. It's been way too long since I visited Goodison Park.

Brent (#514); By "facing in the wrong direction", I meant a lot of the Fenway Park seats don't face the middle of the field, ie, the infield and/or the pitcher's mound. You may need to know a little about baseball [rounders] to understand. Fenway, much like Goodison Park, has a "footprint" that was squeezed in between 4 or 5 abutting streets... Yes, we did have a certain amount of streets built in 1912! lol!

The comment about the front office meddling involved the owners, club president, etc interfering way too much with the General Manager [player personnel expert] and the on the field Manager [gaffer] on purely baseball matters. Also, IMHO, getting involved with certain high-paid/spoiled players' bullshite drama.

Joe (#483) and Colin (#510); I can see where you are coming from, somewhat similar to the Red Sox sharing with the NYY; however, in that example, the geographical separation between Boston & NY is 200 miles. Unfortunately, without a temporary share, a new facility will probably NEVER happen.

Hope that clarifies my initial post. Go Blues!

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