Everton slip down to 7th place

I would not be unhappy to see Moyes leave this Summer, but that's probably mainly due to boredom rather then the belief that his successor would be guaranteed to do a better job. The horrible truth is that 9th is probably about where we belong in relation to our financial strength.

Only the money clubs above us, so we're our usual best of the rest. It's not that we've done badly but it's a real let down after showing we were a very capable team early season. A Failure to strengthen the squad in January when we were off colour was significant. Then again I really can't explain why or how our passing game disintegrated.

What a tosspot that Brenda is... Oh fuck — they are above us now. Sometimes, Everton really really piss me off; this weekend is just another example.

As for the RedShite, I never got involved in the early season goading of them as I am too long in the tooth. I know how easy it is for Moyes to make his sides capitulate and how the RS have always left us looking like mugs over the years. All-in-all, just another brutal reminder of what a waster Moyes really is. Two teams Spurs and the RS played today — do any of you Moyes zealots think either of those clubs would have Osman or Neville anywhere near their first teams???

I am of a similar mind set.

Bad results for the Mighty Blues are usually largely compensated for by the RS getting stuffed – followed by the hilarity of the after-match phone-in.

What a crap weekend this has been. Bollocks to everything.

It's a dreary March Sunday, so I was going back through some sunny August stuff. Moyes gloating that this is the best squad of players he has had under his wing at EFC, What has gone so badly wrong? It's the same squad, right, the one many say is too small.

A crucial season to learn from and come up with credible changes. And yesterday will prove to be a pivotal day if we slumber on like this.

Self-inflicted wound, I know, but I'm gonna watch the match all the way through once more over here and see if I can see the bright no-need-to-worry notes that Entwistle, Doddy, and all the other IMWT parrots see.

We have had opportunities to push on but have not taken them, had opportunities to blood youth and not taken it, as supporters not really played a role except for the derby and the Man Utd game, all in all we all have a part to play and we haven't all played it.

Importantly, the game players who can really influence Everton - the ,money men, the manager, the players have seriously let us down and feel that all in all the time has come to say strike action is required, boo the team, boo the manage,net, boo the owners whoever they are and if the team feel uncomfortable, then tough, they get paid enough to feel uncomfortable if they are not playing good enough. Hollow to feelings, what about ours as supporters!!!!

Shit result followe day the shite taking over us!!!!!

Bollox, bollox, and more bollox!!!!

Everton v Millwall or Blackburn

Liverpool now ahead in the prem

A shit weekend complete!!!

Fucking great.

Season is over, do one Moyes. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, to quote chelsea fans at beneathus

Without wishing to fully go into the butterfly effect, I'll just say, it's fucking irrelevant.

Money can't change what Moyes knows as a coach can it? Good managers evolve with experience, Moyes doesn't. Moyes does the same shite now as he did 10, 8, 5, 3, 1 years ago all though now with better players. Why is this Andy?

Why oh why am I cursed with such dispicable luck?!

Listening to Talksport today, media still saying Moyes is a top manager who needs to leave Everton to better himself. Fucking unbelievable how these southern journalists still believe the hype.

Everton however were playing a game yesterday with only three outcomes, with a clear advantage on the one they wanted, which they didn't take. Had they been professional enough to do so they'd be in the same boat again in a game that could take them to a final.

It called 'taking your chances' not 'playing the lottery'.

Heresy, put me to the flames, I found myself nodding along. I despise the shite with all I have in me, but I've been an Evertonian for far too long to join in the Autumn revelry.

This man could be the manager of Barcelona, and still fail to get them to qualify for the europa league..
He might be good for teams at the foot of the table, but he is too much of a loser to win anything at all.

Preston as manager ? Shit himself completely when they where in the playoffs..failed misrably to get them promoted.

Tatty twelfth!!!

Would rather have sexy sixteenth!!!

I'd rather finish mid table and win silverware...and thats right you end up in europe doing it. Having ambition is something you do not seem to understand. All the posts I have read from you, are all about us having no money. That would matter if we want to win the league or god forbid make a challenge on the champions league.

He has had plenty of money to build a squad over the years. Martinez is able to rotate his squad of 18...moyes can barely rotate 13 players into their right positions each match.

He is paid huge amounts of money to do his job and to get us silverware. a knife to a gunfight?...the man is a coward and shitbag..if he was honorable or if he was a decent person...he would have walked away today or last night for his part in the final straw of a travesty. He has lost the players..he signs a new contract ...then we deserve him..we have no one to blame but ourselves..we have the ability to get this man out...but being lemmings we won't say a word and continue moaning about his decisions and his ability for the next 3 years..yawn

Millwall/Blackburn? We could and should be looking forward to a real chance at an FA Cup Final this Sunday — not evaluating our entire club setup (again).

Well somebody's not familiar with sarcasm.

I was merely demonstrating that 'ifs' and 'buts' are not worth crying about. Specifically the draw we 'would have had'.

What is worth crying about is that diabolical performance and the fact that it was not an isolated incident.

The hardships of being a professional footballer on £20k plus a week, but don't forget there career only lasts until they are thirty!!! That gives them an average of 12 million over a career, shit that's not good, should have got a job at KFC.

Sick of excuses because there are none for not doing your job. Period.....

I've come off the fence and half-a-season Davey has to go. It's time for us all to move on. I'm more interested in what he does with another club than what he does with us. Even the odd relegation battle would be more interesting than this.

I'm well fed up with Groundhog Day football. If I was a betting man, I would think Davey Boy is about to make a very big mistake. He will leave the most secure job in football and take the biggest chance of his life. Go for it, Davey, I'm bored shitless.

I've never said it before but go Moyes, Fellaini, Jelavic, Osman, Heitinga, Anichebe, Mirallas, Neville – doesn't that mean no team? Well let's start again with the £40m we should get for that lot.

Even in this time of outrage and all out condemnation, it is still possible to spot an idiot a mile off.

Get rid of Mirallas? Please. Do you watch Everton much.

Yes, I plan to go axe-happy on some brainless muppet.

The point is that had we got through, we wouldn't neccissarily have got Millwall/Blackburn.

We would have had a 50/50 chance and is only worth worrying about if you live in a parrallel universe. Which you actually seem to do, so worry away.

Mirallas has been out injured for much of the season, or playing trying to regain his fitness. Not sure how he's meant to show it week-in and week-out when he's on the treatment table. Against wigan, he was one of a handful of players who did fight for the cause, till he came off (and he was our best player when he came off).

There are lots of shirkers out there, led admirably by our manager, but Mirallas isn't one of them. Give the manager time, he'll work his magic on him soon.

He's just too much of a coward to take a chance.

Have to agree with Phil. Had we gone through, the balls probably would have been hot and we'd have ended with United/Chelsea in the semi.

As it stands we're now missing out on a penalty shoot out in London against a "hard working, great club" like Blackburn/Wigan. Seriously, at the moment, do we have five players that could confidently put a pen away?

Sadly, his gloating is unwarranted and entirely indicative of Dick's attitude to EFC. Osman is not 'fucking shite'. He is a good player who has played out of position for 90% of his career. He has great ability on the ball and shouldn't be dismissed outright because of a hopeless shooting ability. Where Moyes fucks up is picking him every week and guaranteeing him 90 minutes. The guy is clearly off form and shattered. Get him out of the side you blinkered fool!

I am also sure that Moyes decision would be based on Everton qualifying for Champions league and as that is a distant pipedream it is logical to expect his departure along with Fellaini.

Usually Everton have started the seasons well but it appears this season is the opposite way round and without the class and athleticism of Jags. the defence is so exposed and unfortunately when you needed some players to do some deeper covering and tackling the likes of Neville, Osman and Pienaar were woefully inadequate.

If we keep it just to England none of the big boys are going to touch him, a few have already had ample opportunity and he's not even been interviewed. Which leaves what? Villa...? Sunderland....?

I think Saturday may have illustrated that Moyes hasn't been unlucky in not winning a trophy in 11 years at Everton, but that Everton haven't won a trophy in 11 years because of Moyes.

If he gets another contract I might be taking a little vacation from football.

I accept he's had to do it on a 'shoestring' but we've had some real windfalls with the Rooney, Lescott and Rodwell money and if he wasn't given it by the board he should've done the principled thing and walked, knowing the situation we are in today would be inevitable.

Pienaar has been in the main horrendous for months but Oviedo hasn't had a look in, Mirallas and Gibson were injured but Barkley and Hitz (to a lesser extent) haven't featured, Howard has he safest No.1 jersey in the league and has to break his back to get replaced.

Moyes doesn't have a squad because he's not built one by bringing players like Barkley into games, played them and developed them so they can make a difference when called on. Barkley still did more in ten minutes than the rest of the team had in 80 on Saturday, but instead we've got a 36 year old trotting around, who might be viewed as a pair of safe hands, shame he hasn't got a pair of safe feet!

This 'small squad' is his own doing. If Barkley, Vellios, Duffy, McAleny, Lundstrum and even Hitzlsperger had been given more chances then we would have more options all over the park.

I don't know how Moyes expects our younger lads to gain experience when he refuses to play them or send them out on decent loan spells.

The whole Stones transfer sums up the clueless plank for me. The lad had been coming on leaps and bounds. 18 years old and holding down a spot in a decent side playing at a good standard. Surely by letting him stay with Barnsley till the season's end, we would have got him more experience and even knocked a few grand off the transfer fee for the favour.

I have been going to Goodison Park for 50 seasons and you have done what all the other managers have never done to me: I felt ashamed to be an Everton supporter watching that game.

Do the honourable thing and go.

Moyes has instilled this DNA into the side that we are not good enough or worthy enough to mach or beat these teams and the proof is in the pudding of our last two Wembley appearances.You only have to listen to his regular little soundbites –- "knife to a gunfight" etc to see the man and his defeatist attitude and his cautious football approach.If this is his attitude how would you not expect the team he coaches to adopt the same attitude? The man is basically a shithouse when it comes to the bigger teams and it shows in his displays more often than not as we have only won a handful of games against them if that.

Big Joe Royle and the dogs of war were not the most accomplished side we have ever seen, but fuck me, they never knew when to give up and that comes from Big Joe's character and belief he drummed into the side.If only the current side had their character and spirit eh??.......

Mike, that is pretty much what I was trying to say, even if Moyes HAD a big squad , there is no evidence that he'd use them.

Before the Wigan game, I toyed with the scenario you described and still came up with the conclusion that we would shit it as usual.

Maybe EFC can do without supporters like me but I keep coming back for more of the same.

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