What or Who do we want in the New Year?

Who would have thought coming to up the half-way point of the season that we would be positioned in 5th place just 4pts off top spot and playing some of the best football most of us have seen for the past 30 years? Strong at the back, steadfast and creative in midfield, and with so much power and pace up front.

Unfortunately its that time when injuries and suspensions start to kick in and the squad can look paper-thin. Its also that time of year when the fringe players (Heitinga a cert, and maybe Jelavic) will want to move on, particularly in a World Cup year... Before you know it, we could be at least 4-5 players down. Martinez has already spoken of the need to bring in some fresh faces, but the obvious question is: Who? And in what positions do we want them?

I personally feel that we have enough cover at the back if our main four lads either get injured or suspended, maybe some cover wont be as effective (eg, Hibbert for Coleman) but all-in-all we have Hibbert, Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Alcaraz, Stones, Baines and Oviedo to cover all positions.

Its midfield and upfront where we need some new players. Our pace is basically provided by Deulofeu, Mirallas and Barkley, if we lose one for any length of time (eg, Deulofeu for at least 5 weeks, and god forbid another of the remaining two) then we really are in big trouble. To me, we need another dynamic midfield player is McGeady the one? I don’t know enough about him, others should comment.

This basically leaves the midfield base with Barry, McCarthy, and Osman as Gibson is out all season. To those can you add Naismith? I doubt it... but again, if we were to lose Barry or McCarthy for any length of time, I think once again we would suffer big time. To me, we need to find either another defensive, solid player; I honestly dont think we will find a quality box-to-box player like McCarthy without big monies being available.

So to me midfield needs two players: one pacy, and one a defensive solid type Who? I dont know but Im sure others will have ideas.

Upfront, I actually think if he was likely to be fit (which he isnt) Kone would be a fine replacement if anything happened to Lukaku. Will Jelavic stay and can he effectively replace Lukaku? again, I doubt it, even though I again think in time the lad will get back to his best, as he was when he first joined. I think, even if Jelavic stays, we need another good goalscoring forward. Who is available?

Its the most difficult position to fill and anyone with any quality won’t be available or will require megabucks to buy so bye-bye to that thought... It leaves us with the fringe players, those who havent ever quite managed to move up a level for whatever reason, or those who have real potential to be developed from the lower leagues.

I think given our position we really need someone from the Premier League who hasnt quite done enough in his current team, and I think that looking around, whos available, Shane Long would actually be an ideal addition. WBA tried to move him out in August and hes stalling on new terms. Hes tough, holds the ball up well, and is capable of putting the ball in the net with the right service.

Can we get these players we need? How much have we got to spend? ... Id hope about 15M left from our summer window and whatever else we get for Johnny. Are we actually ahead of Martinezs primary plans and is he planning longer term? To me, we are so close to making it big time, it would be a real missed opportunity if we don’t really go for it. But hey haven’t we said this countless times before???

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Mark Frere
4 Posted 18/12/2013 at 18:54:50
This really is an important January transfer window, the most important window since......well, since last January! The board really need to back Martinez this time around - a striker, central midfielder and a winger are imperative. We should have a bit of money left over from the summer and it wouldn't be a bad idea to get some of our fringe players off the wage bill, the players which aren't good enough ie: Jelavic Naismith and Heitinga. With money saved on wages and incoming transfer fee's this would add to Bobby's transfer kitty.

Diame and Tom Ince would be a good additions IMO. As for a striker - I really don't have a clue, I'm sure RM and his scouts know the market much better than any of us and how often we actually sign players that are suggested by people on this site?

Lets just pray Martinez is given the funds to maintain our top 4/title challenge.

Terry Murphy
5 Posted 18/12/2013 at 19:49:37
1. Shane Long.
2. Holding Midfielder
We need a replacement for Lukaku when he goes back south and Barry ain't getting any younger (I'm beginning to think of Gibson as a luxury we can't afford). In each of these cases, I'd rather bring them in now than start next season with players who don't know the Martinez Project.
David Chait
6 Posted 18/12/2013 at 20:31:27
The acquisition of Barry has reduced the urgency of another holding midfielder.. My main hope was an excellent holding midfielder and we signed one and loaned one... I was hoping for Fer...

Yes we need a striker but I would hold out until July for that. Let the Lukaku period run it's course.

For me, I would like to see a highly promising youngster 16 - 19 year old signed on.... A kid that needs us to fork out 8m maybe... Those Scottish kids are an example. But I have said for ages we should invest in the next Ramsay ... Maybe Nick Powell is up for grabs ...

I hold thumbs that Lundstram, Kennedy or Green make the grade... But let's add to that talent now.... With RM at the realm I feel that time is better than ever...

Phil Friedman
7 Posted 18/12/2013 at 20:58:40
David #431, I don't think we can afford to wait until the summer to deal with the striker. What happens if Lukaku pulls his hamstring? Jelavic, even if he stays, isn't the answer. And, a credible second striker may push Lukaku, who many have opined looks disinterested from time to time. Maybe he needs a push to be consistently at his best.
Patrick Murphy
9 Posted 18/12/2013 at 21:17:39
I wish the BBC wasn't so anti Everton, I'm sitting here watching the great train robbery on the BBC and a newspaper article is stuck to the window of the Robber's hideaway - supposedly from 1963 Back Page Headline reads "Clamp Down On Everton's Thugs".

Fifty years of the press being negative towards our club - Why? I have no idea.

Denis Richardson
10 Posted 18/12/2013 at 21:11:15
Way I see it, we have a very good first XI and thanks to Roberto have a decent bench most of the time, so not that much surgery is needed in Jan imo.

Main issue I see is that we don't have any real cover for either Barry or McCarthy. The odd game missed through suspension or minor injury is ok, but if either was out for a month or more we would really struggle.

For the attacking midfield spots, we have 5 players (excuding Naismith) for 3 places (4 temporarily with Delboy out 'till mid Jan), so we're a little light. Still not an emergency situation as Naismith can come on as sub as well to relieve the burden a bit. Even without Delboy we still have Barkley, Mirallas and Pienaar available to start, with Ossie as back up/give someone a rest.

Up front, we basicaly don't have decent cover for Lukaku. We also don't have the cash to buy decent cover nor will be able to loan in decent cover, so we just have to hope he stays fit and can get a breather now and again if we're a couple of goals up.

To sum up, another midfielder would be nice, especially if they can play box to box and provide cover for Barry/McCarthy as well as play more foward if needed. Another striker would be great to relieve the burden on Lukaku and provide cover - really cannot see Jelavic geting back to his best, the guy looks like he needs to be moved on.

For theirs and the clubs' sake, can we please get rid of Heitinga and Gueye in Jan.

Not to much to ask for surely?

Bill Gall
11 Posted 18/12/2013 at 21:42:50
The problem with the January window is that clubs do not want to sell their best players until their prospective league position is secure; some clubs also tend to hike the fees knowing that you want their players.

Mike's comment of how much will we have to spend?... The question should be: How much will BK allow the club to spend?

Everton Football Club is an organization with a lot of hardworking people with its showcase being the Premier League team and a manager starting to bring success with his ideas of how football should be played, that is being implemented from junior teams to the first team.

Along with other supporters, I believe the club is at a stage now that the chairman and board have to take a long hard look at themselves and decide if they want Everton Football Club move to higher levels by providing the manager the financial support to achieve this.

The difference this year is I find that a number of so-called pundits, instead of talking about Everton as a team punching above their weight, are now expressing them as genuine top 4 contenders.

Making a list of a lack of support, and major mistakes by the chairman and board is a waste of time. My wish for the new year is this board, this time, accept what their responsibilities are and get Everton Football Club to a higher level.

Philip Bunting
12 Posted 19/12/2013 at 04:19:26
For the new year I would like to see us go for Tom Ince. Good young midfielder with goals in him who would benefit from getting a football education under the masterful Martinez....Upfront if Lukaku stays injury free we should be fine although Shane Long at the right money may be a good option.

Outside of this, pretty much happy to keep our powder dry till the summer, sell Baines for 15mill and clear a bit of dept. I have complete faith in Oveido and don't know why we pay top money for a full back if indeed his future is on the bench.

To move forward, lets reduce our dept a bit with the Baines money and spend 15-20mill on young hungry talented youngsters from Money left over from the summer and from sale of Heitinga.... Note: Why do players need to be rested from playing football? Never understood that to be honest unless with injuries of course.

Danny Broderick
13 Posted 19/12/2013 at 06:36:04
We seem to be linked to McGeady every week. He's the most likely player to come in, probably on loan.
Zahir Jaffer
14 Posted 19/12/2013 at 06:58:28
With the possibility of being in the top 4 before new year coming up, I believe we should BREAK THE BANK come this winter transfer window. The question is: Do we really have to?

The last 5 or so years we let Lescott go for 24M, Arteta for 10M, Pienaar went and came back but we still made a profit of 4M, Yakubu left for 6M, Cahill for 1M and Fellaini left for 27.5M. Not to mention that these players are the ones with them lofty wages with around over 50k a week for each. Then the sales of other players such as Anichebe for 6M (which was quite a sale if I must say so myself), Rodwell for 12M, Saha went for free, Beckford went for around 3.5M and Neville did retire expanding our wage budget.

Did we also forget about our sponsor? We should be commanding 10M a year from our shirt sponsors to say the least! WTF IS THIS, armed robbery?

Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear, as Eddy said. The reason being that we also make a good chunk of money finishing in the top 7, I reckon it's about 8M. So Just hearing that we have zilch in our bank is just excruciating, preposterous! And up right BLASPHEMY!

Now coming towards who we really need!? A winger as always, a striker considering Jela leaves (or doesn't find his form), and some fresh legs in midfield. To be quite frank, we should have banked in on Sinclair in the transfer window. There were rumors we were interested in Sinclair before he went to Man City (now on loan to West Brom). On top of that, we've never really had pacy wingers this last decade or so and he would have given added competition to the likes of Mirallas and Pienaar.

Zakaria Bakkali is a class act as well so if we could nick him I would be jumping frantic and would do me happy dance in that cdm/cm position.

I feel Arturo Vidal would be one hell of a signing. he does already play in the CL for Juve so it would be implausible to get him unless we're in a good league position come January. His wages are quite low as well.

Marco Verratti is another bright prospect and is quite potent. Great for the long term plan. He plays for PSG and there were rumors linking him to Inter. If we could get either of them, even if on loan, it would be a real steal.

Strikers I would recommend we try to get Nicolas Lapez who plays for Udinese, has low wages, and has that Suarez-esque touch to him. Still young and needs experience though. Another would be Neal Maupay, plays for Nice, and only 17 years of age with a market value of 2M. Can play on either wings or upfront. Very pacey and would add that much needed depth in our squad.

With our squad being quite minuscule, I can see our players getting fatigued easily come 2/3rds of the season. It has happened to Aston Villa, Wigan, and plenty of other teams in the past. Especially since we went in so hard from the beginning of this season. It would be ideal to expand now so we can finally push above our frickin weight!

This is our closest yet farthest we've come this far come mid-season for god knows how long. This transfer window would be our break or make it window for the future, as the rich clubs are growing rapidly and the feeble ones are getting left behind. Hopefully Bill Kenwright, the frugal douche that he is, realizes this.

The key would be to hold on to Ross Barkley as long as we can. If we let him go, the future of our club will slowly despair and diminish. I personally hope he retires with us but I may be a little optimistic there.

Zahir Jaffer
16 Posted 19/12/2013 at 09:02:05
Shane Long would be a vital signing. We should have tried to swap him in with Anichebe plus a little cash.
Col Wills
17 Posted 19/12/2013 at 09:07:42
I wouldn’t be averse to the likes of Steve Sidwell coming in as cover for the defensive midfield position. He looked good against us last week and shouldn’t cost too much.

As far as a striker goes, how much would Michu cost? 12 - 15 million?

Personally I reckon Martinez will be looking to the loan market on the continent for the tricky winger type player to cover for Pienaar and Mirallas.

Sam Hoare
18 Posted 19/12/2013 at 10:09:16
We look pretty solid at the back and in the centre but could use some more pace and creativity as Del Boy is injured and Mirallas a bit hot and cold. Tom ince seems an obvious pick along with a good striker to compete with Lukaku. How about Pato?!
Jamie Barlow
19 Posted 19/12/2013 at 10:59:04
My New Year wish is for everyone at the club to receive miming lessons.

Type "Merry Christmas from Everton Football Club" into YouTube to watch the latest Kenwright production.

It's pretty funny actually.

Ben Jones
20 Posted 19/12/2013 at 13:21:28
Shane Long and Tom Ince would be great.

Both could be quite likely too. Ince's contract is running out soon, so he wouldnt be worth a great amount, although a lot of Prem clubs would be thinking the same thing.

Long is depends who the new manager is. May not feature in his plans, and he would be good, because he's got a decent goalscoring touch, works hard, pacy, and is one of those small (ish) strikers, who can play well with one front.

I think the crux of the article is correct though, 3 players primarily for cover we do need.

Albert Crocker
21 Posted 19/12/2013 at 12:41:31
I'd like Glen Hoddle to get the Spurs job. Thus ensuring that they finish no higher than eigth.

Suarez to bite off an opponent's nose and then thump the ref. Bye bye.

Rooney to decide that he wants to get back to his roots and puts all of his money into the club. He also states that he is prepared to play for the under 18's. Stones that is.

Moyes to spend a ludicrous amount of cash on three or four players whose names nobody can spell or even find their countries of origin on the map. All of whom prove to be total flops. Double result. He's sacked and Manure slip down the table.

Mourhino to get the boot at Chelsea. He will then declare that he has long had a hidden passion for Everton and wants to be an assistant to Roberto and really doesn't mind putting out the traffic cone things at Finch Farm.

Scandinavian countries impose a total flight ban to the UK whenever Liverpool are playing at home. Gates down.

We stop watering the pitch ten minutes before kick off so that people in the lower Gwadlys don't get soaked.

The top scorer in the World Cup, after a 35 yard screamer hits the back of the net, pulls off his jersey to reveal a T shirt that has "I wouldn't mind going to Everton on loan" on it.

Jeflavic wakes up on Christmas morning to find a pair of magic boots in his stocking. When he wears them he finds that it is impossible to get into the penalty area without scoring.

And a Christmas card from Alex Young wouldn't go amiss.

Dennis Stevens
22 Posted 19/12/2013 at 13:42:54
Albert Crocker #514 "The top scorer in the World Cup, after a 35 yard screamer hits the back of the net, pulls off his jersey to reveal a T shirt that has "I wouldn't mind going to Everton on loan" on it." - but Barkley's already at Everton, Albert!
Mat Smith
23 Posted 19/12/2013 at 13:43:19
HA HA Jamie - that is funny! :)
Kevin Hughes
24 Posted 19/12/2013 at 13:51:13
A lot of our players are around the age 30 mark, and a lot of contract expire in June 2016. Looking at how the team could line-up in 3 years given the current personnel, it looks like:

Robles, Coleman, Jagielka, Stones, Oviedo, Lundstram, McCarthy, Mirallas, Barkley, Kennedy, Jelavic.

With cover being Taudal, Duffy, Garbutt, Browning, Gibson, Naismith and McAleny.

That assumes Baines leaves/retires, and that Gibson isn't considered a regular first team player due to his injury record. It also omits Vellios, Gueye and Junior as their development seems to have stopped but includes all the youth players who are getting toward the first team. Although hopefully others would come through too that would be a bonus rather than something to plan around.

Given that line-up, I think the key area for strengthening would be strikers. Central defence also looks in need of strengthening - two unproven players and an ageing Jagielka, Midfield looks light on players in general.

Given those longer-term considerations, and taking into account the current team my priority for January would be a defensively-minded midfielder, and if there was a second youngish versatile midfielder that would be good too. A striker would be great, but anyone we sign would be second to Lukaku so it may be hard to attractive the right player, especially in the January window. Hence that looks like a priority for early in the summer transfer window and hope Lukaku stays fit in the meantime. For now central defence is fine, but signing another promising young centre back would be helpful for the longer-term.

In terms of players leaving, Gueye and Vellios don't seem to add to the team, and Heitinga is a very expensive bench-warmer. Without others coming in, there aren't any others I'd want to see leave although Naismith would be high on the list to leave if replacements do come in, and solely because of his injury record I wonder what role Gibson will end up playing at the club.

Jim Potter
25 Posted 19/12/2013 at 14:09:14
New Year's wishes?

We spend every penny on getting Lukako permanently.

Bill sells the club to a staunch Evertonian billionaire.

Moyes loses to us at home as well. We beat the RS away. We don't just qualify for the Champions league - we win the Preniership.

And Angelina Jolie begs me to satisfy her urges as Brad isn't up to it any more.

Yep, I'd be pretty pleased with those ....

James Stewart
27 Posted 19/12/2013 at 14:33:54
I doubt there will be much quality available in January. Tom Ince is a good shout providing its a realistic price. I would expect we would be in the scramble for the Zaha loan too. I would rather we didn't do any business with united though personally in or out!

I hope our Barca kid stays for next year. Same with Lukaku. And I would love us to finish top 4 and stuff it down the necks of all the media who write us off at every opportunity. And while we are at it a win at the RS!

Gareth Fieldstead
28 Posted 19/12/2013 at 14:44:38
Roberto has genuine money to spend, the remaining money from the sale of Fellaini and anything generated from sales in January will do, not like we are asking the board to actually generate additional funds, heaven forbid! Ince, McManaman and a forward on loan would be nice. Its a shame that Kone, Gibson and Deulofeu are injured as they would be ideal cover for our first eleven!

Finally off the subject slightly but genuine justice for the 96 next year would be wonderful. Jail time for the filth who caused it and Sheff Wed, the FA and Sheffield city council hung out to dry.

To the site owners best wishes and thanks for a great site.

Steve Woods
31 Posted 19/12/2013 at 20:06:06
Albert Crocker @ 514 that brought a huge smile. Many thanks and by the way I totally agree!
Patrick Murphy
32 Posted 19/12/2013 at 20:17:34
Apart from the obvious wishes for the Blues, I also hope that Norwich turn up when they play our neighbours. Everton stop having to play teams who have recently appointed a new manager as opposed to some who it seems always seem to play teams when they are about to self-implode or on the cusp of losing their manager. Apparently Mackay at Cardiff has been told to resign or get the sack.

We find a striker who can score in every other match, rather than one who scores in fits and starts.

Referees give us a fair go and stop looking as if they're always looking to book our players or give our opponents help by constantly punishing every tackle we make.

We get to the Cup Final and beat Man U after trouncing the neighbours in the semi-final

Billy realises that he has to sell and finds a suitable, responsible buyer rich enough to give us a real chance of winning the Premier League.

Harold Matthews
33 Posted 20/12/2013 at 01:26:05
Albert Crocker. Nice one mate.
Jamie Crowley
34 Posted 20/12/2013 at 01:54:21
I don't feel we need another striker short term. I think in a pinch Mirallas can jump up top and do a fine job.

Short term we don't need a defensive midfielder. If Gibbo is still on the shelf Barkley can drop back.

Short term we don't need a central midfielder. Pienaar can go inside in my opinion. Osman while not everyone's cup of tea can slot in as well without worry, again in my opinion.

We have plenty of depth in the back - no worries.

What I feel we do need for the push is one more winger. It is by far the most demanding position on the field. Sprint forward, sprint back. Repeat. I'm only comfortable with Delo (hurt...) Mirallas and Pienaar currently. Anyone else played out wide in our current squad is a fish out if water. we need 4 quality wide midfielders.

Being Everton and being skint I'll be realistic and ask for just one player. Use any other monies to balance our books and get us financially strong again.

Callum McManaman. Please Santa / Father Time / Any Omnipotent Being... please. I think he's in our "price range" and I think that kid has an unreal upside.

Iain Johnston
35 Posted 20/12/2013 at 03:43:27
Zahir 489 We haven't made a profit on Peinaar. We bought him for 2.5 sold him for 3m then paid Spurs 4.5m for him. That's a loss of 4m.

We sold Yakubu for 2m after paying 13m for him, a loss of 11m.

The Lescott money went on Distin 5m Heitinga 7m and Bily 9m.
The latter sold for 6m, a loss of 3m.
The Arteta money went to the bank. In sales alone it's a loss of 18m..

The Rodwell money went on Peinaar and Mirallas.

The 6m we received for Bily went on Jelavic and Gibson.

Chris Morris
36 Posted 20/12/2013 at 08:52:12
A striker definitely. Not an average 5-6m one but a proper goalscorer. If it means selling our best asset in Baines then I would begrudgingly do that because it's no good having top players and a finely balanced squad if we can't score a goal.

Oviedo has grabbed his chance with both hands and I think is worth persisting with him. I am not saying he's as good as Baines (I don't think anybody is) but if we get an offer of 20m for a left back then it's got to be worth considering, surely?

Then go for a striker. I know there's no guarantees but you usually get what you pay for. When Jelavic first arrived he was banging them in for fun, but I think we all allowed ourselves to forget the amount of chances he missed too. I would love it if he came back to form but I seriously doubt it.

Anyway, that's my tuppence worth!

Jon Ferguson
37 Posted 20/12/2013 at 09:30:19
My Christmas wish list is:

Albert Finnbogasson
Will Hughes
Tom Ince (but I'd accept McGeady if I got the other two)

I've been really good this year and so definitely deserve it.

Carl Sanderson
38 Posted 20/12/2013 at 09:53:20
1. Kenwright to sell up and fuck off.

2. Kenwright to sell up and fuck off.

3. Wayne Rooney to move to Everton.

4. For David Moyes to fade from the collective memory of ToffeeWeb.

Colin Glassar
39 Posted 20/12/2013 at 10:30:42
Tom Ince at 6m would be the perfect January buy. He can play wide, down the middle and in MF. He's got pace, skill, arrogance and he scores goals. So Ince and a MF loanee for me.
Kevin Tully
40 Posted 20/12/2013 at 10:44:49
Champions League proper would be a dream.

Then I'd line up all the fecking so called 'pundits' like Lawrenson, Shearer, and all those knob 'ead journo's from the Sunday Supplement, and make them say out loud ; "I know nothing about football, and I'm a cock."

Sam Hoare
41 Posted 20/12/2013 at 11:11:54
That we win. Everything.

Ray Roche
42 Posted 20/12/2013 at 11:19:28
Jim Potter @ 521

"Angelina Jolie begs me to satisfy her urges "

You'd be disappointed with her.

I was.

Eugene Ruane
43 Posted 20/12/2013 at 11:57:23
New years wishes?

1) Ratboy signs a 6 year deal with them. However in his first game after singing he breaks both legs - at the thigh.

2) Our smirking, bent, hopeless 'leader' - him with the head the size of a lodging house cat - becomes a greenpeace activist and gets a large japanese harpoon up his third eye.

3) Peace and goodwill to all men but obviously not to..them. In fact I hope they all get conjunctivitis (up the arse!)

4) Top 4.

I might have considered an Angelina wish too but I wouldn't want to go there after Ray Roche who, although I've never met him, I'm guessing is one dirty bastard and has probably left the girl in a shocking state.

Col Wills
44 Posted 20/12/2013 at 12:28:56
Eugene, I wouldn't think Ratboy is any good at 'singing'!!
Mike Hughes
45 Posted 20/12/2013 at 12:37:50
New Year Wishes: -

1. Stuff the red filth at Anfield.
2. We win a trophy, qualify for CL and look back on this season as a landmark, pivotal one in our future dynasty as perennial champions of England and Europe.
3. Future TW mailbags bemoan the fact that we've only won the league by 6 points - it was 9 points last season etc etc.

4. An end to the spawniness of the RS. A deal with the devil? Well, here's yet more of the stomach-churning evidence. They face Cardiff tomorrow. Manager likely to be sacked / team unsettled. Last week - AvB unsettled / sacked. Last season they played Swansea days before their first cup final - the Swans simply bent over and took it up the arse. The same thing with Wigan before the cup final - Wigan played a weakened team and got slaughtered. I won't go into twat refeering decisions that have favoured them over the years or the dirty scum tackles that go unpunished or 39 dead Italians. But FFS, this surely can't go on forever?

Mike Hughes
46 Posted 20/12/2013 at 12:48:27
Ray #605

I completely agree, mate. And she cooks a lousy breakfast.

Paul Smith
47 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:02:18
I said the other day would sell Jelavic and buy Long with that money, would then sign N'Zonzi for about 6 mill as he is a tidy footballer who gets round the pitch well and his size is a bonus at set pieces. I would also not be surprised to see RM go back to Wigan for either Maloney or McManaman and this would make me happy.
Phil Sammon
48 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:08:37
Same wishes as everyone else really:

1. Angelina Jolie to sign a 4 year pay-as-you-play deal with Everton.

2. Jelavic to satisfy my most primitive urges.

3. Kenwright to be an integral part of China's next mission to the moon.

Shaun Sparke
49 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:11:18
Spot on Kevin #598 You can now add on David Cameron to that list, who has predicted a 3 nil win for Swansea on Sunday (Via Mark Lawrenson at the BBC). As if I needed another excuse to hate the smarmy bastard!
Phil Walling
50 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:14:07
What a lovely chap you are, Ruane!
Mike Hughes
51 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:27:49
Shaun #615

If you scroll down to the actual write-up of the Swansea v Everton match on Lawrenson's predictions, you'll see that Cameron has predicted an Everton win. It's Lawrenson and the Troops who have predicted Swansea wins.

Mike Hughes
52 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:33:00
Shaun#615 - CORRECTION
You are right. They've changed it from last night - it was the other way around.
As you rightly say, "the smarmy bastard".
Andrew Ellams
53 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:48:09
See, this is why I NEVER watch MOTD. Swansea to win, what a load of shite. At least Paul Merson etc. don't shy away from praise when it's due.

As for 2014, hadn't really thought about Shane Long but the idea is growing on me now. Need to find some cover for Barry and McCarthy, Osman looked out of place in that position against Fulham, what happened to the guy from PSG we were linked with over the summer?

Will Hughes would be great but probably cost a relativefortune, and Tom Ince doesn't seem to be having the same impact this year.

Dave Lynch
54 Posted 20/12/2013 at 14:00:21
Mine is just to continue the way we are going at present.

Sam Higgins
55 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:54:30
I think its quite indicative to how we really feel about Wayne Rooney that a lot of people would like to see him back. It seems people are ready to forgive. I for one would love to see him back.

Gerry Quinn
56 Posted 20/12/2013 at 14:12:51
Eugene the Prophet #607
Looks like you got #1 right so far about signing the deal - I hope the second part now happens! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ray Roche
57 Posted 20/12/2013 at 14:32:13
Eugene Ruane @ 607

Eugene, Guilty, as charged.

Mike Hughes @ 612

I skipped breakfast, Mike, didn't want to be late for Katy Perry who was waiting outside.

Wayne Smyth
58 Posted 20/12/2013 at 13:31:22
Shane Long? Bloody hell, what low standards.

This is someone who's scored about 1 in 4 during his career, including significant time in the championship and is about as good as he's ever going to get.

Admittedly he runs about a lot for the team and probably has a first class attitude, but if we're going to the next level, we need a 20 goal a season striker, not someone who is just hard working.

If we didn't make top 4 this season because Lukaku got injured, its not a disaster. I'm in complete agreement with David Chait (431) in that we need to be spending our money on the next Lukaku or the next Barry. We simply can't afford anyone who is already the real deal... and we certainly don't want more players like Long who won't improve the quality of what we have already and will just add bodies.

Let's get some really promising young players in who can provide cover from the bench for now, but maybe will be ready for more first team action next year. Supplement the youngsters with another loan signing or cheap transfer for someone who is at a decent level already (eg, McGeady) and we'll be in a decent position come the 2nd half of the season.

If we approach the problem with a short term and long term view and ensure both bases are covered we'll be fine. If we sign players who are 'okay', like Shane Long, and who wont get any better, then we're making our lives unnecessarily hard.

Danny Jones
59 Posted 20/12/2013 at 14:23:39
I don't wish for an influx of players. Just a few changes. More backfill than new faces.

Has Garbutt got first team potential? I've seen him a couple of times and I thought so. If so, he should be Oviedo's understudy if/when Baines goes. No money spent.

Assuming Heitinga is going we need a replacement. We're ok for numbers in defence, and Barry can play centre half in a pinch, so I think we need Barry cover to replace Johnny H. I don't see Junior making the grade although I may be wrong. So who? A young lad or an old hand? I think that position needs maturity and Gareth Barry's performances bear testimony to this. So someone probably needs to be brought in. Don't know who but I would go for someone who already plays in this country as it seems to take a year for new boys to get the hang of this specialised position in this league.

Shane Long? I fear that he's one of those players that looks good twice a season. He can't hold his place at West Brom so what chance at Everton? Are we looking for back up for Lukaku or next year's number 9? I can see us loaning another hired gun next season. So, look to the kids again. Is there anyone who is going to make the grade? If so, start putting them in the squad. Bring them on if possible. What's to be lost?

Sam Hoare
60 Posted 20/12/2013 at 15:27:52
Wayne, it's very subjective though right and hard to predict? A lot of people on here thought that Barry and McCarthy were 'okay' or worse when we bought them and they have been stellar. Long and McGeady don't fill me with hope but if Martinez reckons those are his men then I would back him to get something beneficial out of them.

We can only get one more loan and that has to be European and not domestic. So I would be happy to loan McGeady and buy Will Hughes for 8M or so. Mirallas and Jelavic seem decent striker cover for Lukaku, not sure we will get much better in January.

Kevin Tully
61 Posted 20/12/2013 at 15:28:55
I would like to see a manager appear on TV and when asked about another manager getting the sack, they say ; "Yeah, not surprised he got the bullet, he deserved it didn't he? If you're getting 3m a season, you have to get results. They haven't won a game for months. Surprised he got the job in the first place a right bluff merchant if you ask me."

Fucking sick of every single one of them saying ; "Who, Carlos? Can't understand it myself, he's doing a fantastic job up/down there. Look at the win he got in 2009 against Utd. He's been working non-stop to bring someone in."

All about the money. They won't say a bad word about each other in case they need a job.

Just. Fuck. Off.

Iain Johnston
62 Posted 20/12/2013 at 17:54:08
Last few years if you'd mention Long or McGeady I'd have said no.
Now I'm not so sure, they are both comfortable with a ball and can pass.
They both suit our playing style, Long knows where the net is when played to his feet and McGeady can sign a pre contract in Jan.

I'd like Diame too, well worth it at 4-5m..

Wayne Smyth
63 Posted 20/12/2013 at 19:06:18
Sam there's certainly no guarantees with Long or McGeady. Neither really fill me with much excitement. I'd be happier with the McGeady as I know less about him, we know he plays to a reasonable standard and would be cheap.

Long is more of a known quantity and that is what worries me. I don't see him as a step up on what we have to be honest and he isn't going to get better. I'd rather see Jelly given another go.

For both of these players its fan talk rather than manager talk which is promising...but if Roberto brought them in, I'd keep an open mind and assume he knows what he's doing


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