Barnsley reject Moyes claims over Stones fee

What a fraud he has shown up to be! (At one time, I was one of his biggest fans, and still appreciate what he did the first 5 years of his 11 year long tenure). He fooled us all into believing that only the monied clubs could be successful in the Sky Sports Premier League age.

Leicester (much poorer relatively than Everton ever were) are showing us how wrong he was! They are challenging for the title – not as 'plucky underdogs' , but they are going toe-to-toe with the big boys. Moyes always had us believe that we were overachieving and that we were lucky to have him as our manager. What a loser!

Alex Ferguson stated in his book that Moyes agreed to join Man U in December 2012.

Did BK tap up RM and did RM tell EFC to sign Stones (who was on his way to sign for Wigan)?

X-Files is back on TV.

The truth is out there. Maybe.

What I can say is that at my Wigan based family's Christmas party in 2013, a senior Whelan employee was confidently forecasting the managerial scenario that was duly played out in the following spring.

He told us that David Moyes Snr had been Fergie's youth time coach and a strong link existed between the families. Wigan's FA Cup exploits had not yet begun but he said 'You can lay bets on who will succeed Moyes at Goodison.'

As a betting man, it is one of my greatest regrets that I held off 'executing my commission' on the sequence events until the real gossip started late in the season – although I did end up a tidy sum!

My brother-in-law really 'cleared out the satchels' with an 'up, down and double' in early New Year. Let me assure you the proceeds more than paid for the party !

I would sooner you explain how Mustafi, the only Everton player who went on to be a World Cup winner since Marco Materazzi, never got a look in whilst Tony Hibbert was being used as a centre half. I won't talk about Eric Dier at this moment – the abandonment of Barkley and Rodwell can wait till another time.

How wrong he was indeed AJ, taking Everton to 4th himself.

Us and Leicester, in 14 years of top 4 football that's 2 out of 56 opportunities taken by those without big money. Just how wrong was he?

Moyes is the biggest bluff merchant ever!!!!!!!

I have read neither book, as football biographies whether unofficial or ghost-written are seldom interesting (maybe Roy Keane's was a little bit), but I do recall extracts of his 2nd book being published in various news sites where he definitely suggested it was wrapped up in the December.

These extracts may have been tasters before the final publishing date, so may not have made it into final copy, and may have been embellished, but there's no way Man Utd rushed such a decision, and no way their #1 candidate backed by Taggart didn't know well in advance. He was on ٢m a year FFS, why would you stall on signing a new contract?

(You do the math..SSSSS!)

Wonder if the difference is a clue as to why we haven't heard (American accent) "Doo diligence has now been compleeded, we are now the owners of the Evertonshire Candymen. WOOOO!!"

By the way, now must be a strange time for David 'Icarus' Moyes.

For the 11 years he was at Everton, all for him was stability and relative calm.

The worst he ever got from supporters at games was occasional anger at certain substitutions (eg: Spurs at home, 0-1) but for the most part it was 'He's got red hair...' etc.

He was in charge of everything, no transfer committees, no pressure to win stuff, earning fortunes and anyone who thought of crossing him got...the stare!

Arms folded, he was a man who appeared thoughtful – a 'football man' to be taken seriously.

A 'young coach' who 'studied the game' and was 'going places' (although 11 years with us suggested rather than going places, he was taking fucking root).

At Everton, for many, he was practically a cult (yeah, yeah, too easy).

These days (especially after reading about his time in Spain) he seems kind of pathetic and jittery, a figure of fun who is now probably a little gun-shy (irony?) re management.

When Wigan got drawn against Everton, in the cup, I thought Martinez, gave the game away then.

Back to Stones, I wonder when he will play for Everton, again?

Many of us believe that RM was lined up in January/February hence there was no interviews for the job apart from a token meeting with interested club insiders.

As regards the fee, we will never really know what Stones cost because of the way these deals are done with add-ons, agents' fees, etc – and the sell-on clause.

Moyes...? History. 'Nuff said.

I would be absolutely astounded if he doesn't. It would be of no benefit to anyone to send Stones into exile until the end of the season. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see him start our very next game.

He is going to make us a nice little earner, no matter what we ended up paying.

Is this going to be our annual 'have a go at our previous manager' post?

Isn't the current one causing enough arguments?

Big changes coming up with the Premier League big money. Let's pray that Everton get on board. Let's hope that Everton come to the party with a proper game plan. Let's hope that we do not squander this opportunity by having Martinez keep the team hovering in mid table. Let's hope that we approach this era with a proper manager. As said, Spurs and Leicester have shown the way. Martinez is not that manager. Nor was Moyes. But they are out there. So no more fooking dithering. Let's get one in. Let's rock and roll. Let's get with the plan. COYBs

It's not bad enough that he took the piss to the tune of around £18 million in wages... then got the Man United gigg on the back of that piss-taking.

Now we have people saying things like he should go back to Dumbarton thinking THEY are the ones doing the ridiculing!

Not sure which of his mansions he is counting his money in, or how much more he will make from the game as a pundit/manager/reporter, but by my reckoning he has already trousered about 30m quid.

The richest failure in sport had the lot of us over (even his critics believed he was an honourable man). Yet we still have people on here thinking THEY are taking the piss out of HIM.

Oh the fucking irony...

Can't see anyone even suggesting that.

Anyway, what about a skit on Moyes watching Everton as a pundit. I'd write one myself but I have a tin ear and, frankly, no discernable talent.

"It was in the January and the last signing of the window. We were trying to bring a striker in that we needed but we didn't have the money."

Maybe his memory is not what it was but Stones signed on 31 January 2013. A full three days after Everton announced they'd agreed to sign Leroy Fer for circa £8.5m. Which kind of flies in the face of (a) trying to sign a striker and (b) not having the money to so.

It's almost as if an out-of-work manager is using his media chums to give him the platform to desperately try to remind the great British public of what a top, top (TM) manager he actually is...and not a failure two jobs on the spin.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Everton-transfers-alvaro-negredo-is-now-1564287

Moyes confirmed it in the following Feb.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2013/02/02/3719957/Moyes-confirms-failed-Everton-bid-for-negredo

As for Stonesy, I hope he's back ASAP. Our best defence is JS and Jags. Funes Mori doesn't inspire me with too much confidence.

I think Funes Morihas done really well. I was sceptical at first given the fact that he came from, in many respects, an inferior league. But, I think the fella is not a bad player at all, and will probably get better with experience.

That said, John Stones is pure class and those that don't appreciate his obvious talent are arseholes who do not deserve to watch such precocious ability and would be better off watching Mitch Ward or such like.

I completely respect your opinion though.

It's obvious Moysey is ready for another job, when the rewards are astronomical. Pimping himself on TV is a just another way of saying, "I'm not skint, but I might just be the experienced manager you're looking for!"

I know Darren brought up the money, Tony; I just don't know why as it isn't relevant to him not knowing how much he paid for his own players.

I just cringe when I see some of the "Haha, look at him" stuff.

Martinez is often dismissed as a fraud who takes the piss, but when it comes to piss-taking, he doesn't hold a candle to this fella. For years he was allowed to manage expectations here and he is still kidding the rest of the footballing community.

To suggest he can't get a job in football ,as Colin did, is foolish. He could walk into another job any time he wants... but even now he is waiting for a premiership side. Who would be surprised if in 2-3 years time, half a million Geordies were eating out of his hand because he had delivered mid table security for them?

The worst thing about this con man is... he doesn't even have a trick, Unlike Martinez he s completely without charm, although he has kinda got sincerity off to a tee.

I never understood how his stock got to be so high, despite never winning anything... and I still don't get how people can mock him.

It's a bit like mocking a burglar who turned your house over because the clown forgot to take your 10-year old toaster

I laughed out loud when read your posts about him and his Mrs on Holiday.

I guess anything is good, if it's funny.

Once Martinez gets his defensive structures right, he might just survive in this job. Unlike some other teams, we have not had a settled line-up all season. Cleverley, Baines, Besic, McCarthy, Mirallas, Jagielka, and even Coleman have all had long layoffs and then it takes a few games for them to get up to speed.

Having said that, I thought Galloway was very unfortunate to get dropped. Stones and Funes Mori are just not experienced enough and there was a distinct lack of leadership on the park.

But we didn't sign Leroy Fer, did we?

We made up some bullshit story that his knee was still suspect even though he had been playing for 8 months since the injury and has played regularly since.

I know Moyes let us and himself down badly in the last season but we need to respect the transformation he brought about in the club on a shoestring budget.

Roberto big licks has had far more to spend and only taken the club backwards.

Maybe it was a good thing we went for the pay-in-installments approach!

BUT

To deny he did a great job for us is just being bitter

1) he stabilised us away from relegation candidates

2) he cemented top half finishes (something we can no longer take for granted)

3) he had us competing for European positions regularly

4) he had us playing some brilliant football at times (Baines/Pienaar axis; Arteta on the right wing was amazing; the Yak and Cahill combining together; Saha in his pomp etc)

5) we reached a cup final and finished 4th

Yes he's done some stupid things but you know what? I'd take him over the current fella every day of the week

Deserves respect?!?! Are you right in the head? The prick knew he was leaving and then tried to steal two of our players on the cheap. Then again, a man leaving a job and moving to a competitor should have cleared his desk and left.

Oh no, Comedy Central – aka Everton Football Club – allow him and pay him to stay and sow his seeds of discontent and also gain knowledge of future plans. You could write a good comedy series based on this.

And I have read comments on this site from supporters who would welcome him back, more fucking losers. The man is a liar and a charlatan.

What the heck are you on about? Was Moyes here at the club only 6 months? did you miss all of the positives? Wait, your rambling hate-filled bitter rant just wouldn't be the same if you actually used facts would it? How did he try to take two players on the cheap? He made a package offer, not a back-room agreement with BK and the offer was rejected. He then paid a large fee for Fellaini right? Also, what is the current offer for Baines from the line of suitors?

Plus, exactly which manager were you referring to when you used the term "Liar and a charlatan?" It seems you are mixing the current manager with the former one.

It does seem that some of you would only be pleased if any Evertonian, player or manager, died on the pitch or the technical area and was carried off on his shield. Sparta is a long way removed both time-wise and distance-wise.

It seems there is no other way to leave this club than with loads of venom being hurled at you. . We have people objecting to testimonials because hey, the player got paid a ton of money to play a game. Other players that are aging are now money-sucking arrogant bastards. Some that try, but are not good enough, are lazy, money-sucking bastards, Others that talk about higher aspirations are disloyal, arrogant, greedy, money-sucking bastards. God forbid if they happen to get a very nice car or something as the fans must pull up to the games in oxen carts. Of course none of the previous comments apply to the only player to hand in a transfer request as he is nearly sainted by many on here.

Moyes is gone. he was good for the club. He is not coming back. Get over it.

May I suggest that