Usmanov hints at possible Everton involvement

Tuesday, 2 October, 2018 67comments  |  Jump to last
Updated Alisher Usmanov says that he could yet help out his friend, Farhad Moshiri, in his attempts to get Everton to "where they should be," although he acknowledges that the current political climate constitutes a significant obstacle.

The Uzbek-born billionaire has long been linked with some involvement with the Blues, a possibility that was strengthening significantly following his recent decision to sell his 30% stake in Arsenal.

That has freed him up to take an interest in any Premier League club and while Usmanov doesn't specify when or how he might invest in Everton or, perhaps, the proposed new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, he hints that he could provide Moshiri some assistance in the future.

"Everton is still far from where it should be," he is reported to have said on TV channel, Russia 1. "We will also help him. And how. This is my friend's club!

"In Britain, sports are too political a sphere, so to speak. There is a great deal of tension today in business. Therefore, it is not known [how easy it would be for me to get involved]."

Moshiri, who sold his own shares in Arsenal to Usmanov in 2016 to facilitate his takeover at Everton, increased his holdings in the Blues to over 68% last month, a sign that he very much wants to be in the driving seat at the club.

It looked to preclude Usmanov from taking significant investment position in the club but there are numerous sponsorship and potential construction avenues open to the Russian that could assist his long-time business partner in his vision for Everton.

Update: The suggestion that Usmanov could invest in Everton has been played down by Jim White on his talkSPORT programmer.

Citing what he described as a reliable source, White said that the help that Usmanov was referring to in the context of the Blues was moral support rather than financial.

 

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Derek Knox
1 Posted 02/10/2018 at 01:46:43
If the price is right, "Come on down, you won't regret it."

One proviso I would invoke is: Make sure any future available transfer money is spent wisely.

As we are all aware, we have craved investment for years, yet the majority of the money thus far has been blown.

Tom Dodds
2 Posted 02/10/2018 at 02:29:32
One glaring obviousness in all of this, you would think, would be the use of his steel in the construction of the Bramley-Moore Dock stadium — that at least has to be a given.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

3 Posted 02/10/2018 at 02:29:57
This is going to be an interesting thread to follow.
Mike Gaynes
4 Posted 02/10/2018 at 02:41:39
Never mind the money, can he finish in the box?
Trev Patterson
5 Posted 02/10/2018 at 02:55:12
I would love to see Usmanov invest in our club but don't want to get my hopes up too much as we're always let down one way or another.
Kieran Kinsella
6 Posted 02/10/2018 at 04:07:44
Based on his track record, I think he will invest. I say that because, when rumors first started, he said he would never sell his Arsenal shares. Then he decided to. Then he said he would never sell to Kroenke, then he did. Then his spokesman said he wouldn't invest in Everton...
Martin Nicholls
7 Posted 02/10/2018 at 05:17:09
Trev#5 sums up my feelings!
Alan J Thompson
8 Posted 02/10/2018 at 05:38:24
Well, there's the smoke, now we only need to see if he has the fire.
Sam Hoare
10 Posted 02/10/2018 at 06:24:41
Even if he does invest, money is less an indicator of sure success these days, just look at Manchester United!

There's quite a few clubs with deep pockets and we still will struggle to persuade top players to choose us over them till we have some progress to point to as a sign of our upwards mobility. Patience again is the key.

One thing/person that has not perhaps been commended enough is Marcel Brands. I really thought he did excellent business this Summer. The contrast with Walsh is very stark. I feel far more confident now that what money is made available for transfers will be more sensibly spent.

Jerome Shields
11 Posted 02/10/2018 at 06:49:58
Well, Everton are being watched very closely, from the Niasse instant to the academy coach tapping. No other Premier League Club is being watched to this extent.

The Watford case is still unresolved and they seem to be getting encouragement from somewhere. The funding of the Moshiri take =over was the subject of a current affairs program; I bet that's being looked at as well.

Usmanov is well aware of this and is being very careful. I don't like any of it myself.

Dermot Byrne
12 Posted 02/10/2018 at 06:57:04
I would imagine one of May, Boris or Corbyn can fuck this up for us!
Colin Glassar
13 Posted 02/10/2018 at 07:42:36
“There is a great deal of tension today in business”. Is he talking Brexit? If so, it would be sodding typical of our luck that just when we get ourselves on the tight track the politicians go and screw it up. We are cursed I tell ya, cursed!

Just do it!

Dave Evans
14 Posted 02/10/2018 at 07:58:43
Colin. I could be wrong but I would have thought he was hinting more to relations with Russia and the threat of restriction to selected Russian business activities.
I expect the moral scales and political high grounds to be seen on this thread.

My view like yours is just do it. When all the present day 'dusts' settle future generations of supporters will have a modern stadium built on the banks of the Mersey.

Alan McGuffog
15 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:00:30
I just have this image...Usmanov has got all these steel girders piled up behind his shed. His missus is giving him loads and he’s telling her they’ll come in handy one day
Colin Glassar
16 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:04:35
That too Dave, but isn’t he from Uzbekistan which would/could keep him out of all this Russian stuff?
Mark Andersson
17 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:04:40
Sam 10 how can you proclaim that Brands has done well with his signings when some of them arrived injured and still to play:

Anyway I'm sure the powers that be will be trying to throw spanners in the works if any of this is true...

On a side note Kevin Keegan was on the Chris Evans radio show of all the teams he played for and managed he bleated on about Liverpool this coming from a Gordie who managed his boy hood club Newcastle.

He bleated on and on about how Klopp was so in tune with the Liverpool fans and the city of Liverpool. So they will do all they can to keep us where they want us, that being the little club we have become.

Also I watched a preview of the Golden Vision Alex Young documentary, they were the days eh and followed by Everton V Manure in 1967 where a 19 year old Joe Royal had united run ragged not to mention how the beautiful game was played with such sublime cohesive football that had the 67 thousand Goodison faith full after going 3 nil up shouting EASY EASY EASY...

Yes we have history and now we have 30 years of NOTHING. I would love nothing better to see Liverpool knocked back to where they came from, however it wont happen in my life time so I will glow in the fact that I witnessed the great sides of the mid 80's...

Dave Evans
18 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:04:58
Alan @15 Lets hope the cabinet at the back of the shed marked AK47'S stays shut.
Ray Smith
19 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:15:07
I sincerely hope Usmanov throws his hand in, however, it will be work in progress to get into a top 4 position.

You still have to attract top 4 players that would want to come when we can’t offer them champions league football.

That type of player is already a multi-millionaire.

I see us building like Man City over the next couple of seasons before we really take off.

However, I remain positive that this “could” be the start of something good.

COYB

Simon Smith
20 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:38:24
Just get involved ffs uzzies blue army 💙👊
Martin Berry
21 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:47:51
Despite the obesity crisis, Azi will still have surplus steel after making all those corsets !.
Of course he will be involved, he just has to be careful how he proceeds, ethically and legally.
You can be sure he will get the bug like his pal has for our great club, and when he sits in the new stadium well .the rest will be history.
Victor Yu
22 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:50:25
I will believe it when I see it.

It would be wonderful if we can pull this off.

Laurie Hartley
23 Posted 02/10/2018 at 08:51:21
Build us a 60k stadium Mr Usmanov and lease it back to us on a 30 year lease. We will do the maintenance and pay for the utilties.

I am not sure what the politics of such a move would be but I couldn't imagine any government blocking 4 or 5 hundred million of foreign investment into something that can not be picked up and moved once built.

Or if you don't fancy that lend us half a billion quid.

Such an arrangement would leave your friend free to build the team and get us back where we belong - at the top.

Also I am sure you are aware of the other opportunities that will emerge on the waterfront once the stadium construction kicks off and Joe Anderson has got 2 or 3 hundred million that he is looking to pump into a joint venture.

Mark # 17 - I was at that game - its a great three part youtube video and worth watching whether you are a young or old Evertonion. It also proves the point that if you are good enough you are old enough.

As far as seeing the new stadium being built; noone knows when their time is going to be up, but if you have a life expectancy of 4 or 5 years, my advice is don't give up on the dream.

Dave Round
24 Posted 02/10/2018 at 09:37:00
Mark 17. Keegan wasn't a Geordie. He was born and raised in Doncaster who rejected him for being too small. He was picked up by Scunthorpe and went on from there.
Alan McGuffog
25 Posted 02/10/2018 at 09:48:19
Mark...and Keegan was so in tune with Liverpool that he couldn't wait to cash in and feck off to Hamburg
Sam Hoare
26 Posted 02/10/2018 at 10:03:23
Mark@17 I ‘proclaim’ (that’s a grand word) Brands has done well because he managed to find homes (temporary or other) for a lot of the deadwood and of the players bought in two have arguably been our best players this season (Richarlison and Digne) another has already shown a few signs that he may have the type of football brain often lacking in recent times (Bernard) and another who has started quite well and seems a certain improvement on what we had (Zouma). Even those 4 alone and the players shipped out would constitute good business to my eyes. Hopefully Gomes and especially Mina will continue that trend.

In terms of arriving injured I’m not too bothered. We have a recruitment team now that’s looking at what a player could bring to us over 4-5 years rather than taking a short term view. All good changes.

Clive Rogers
27 Posted 02/10/2018 at 10:07:35
If he is coming they had better look at the new stadium capacity again. With him and Kenwright, that’s four seats gone already!!!
Len Hawkins
28 Posted 02/10/2018 at 10:16:48
Well if Putin gets involved and wants to really disrupt the status quo of the British way of life he could order the propulsion of Everton to the football elite and order the round up of all redneck "pundits and football experts?" and banish them to some salt mine in Middlewich. The FA Headquarters will move to Salisbury and Perfume shops selling Le Boule Bleue will spring up all over the Country nothing more will be heard of Beckham and his Judy and the bin lids.

Sandbanks will become the model for the Aintree Archipelago a place where the rich will build their dream homes and the Leeds & Liverpool will provide access for the Superyachts to Melling Marina. The Kirkby Ski Centre will be resurrected facing the other way and the World's rich will turn their back on Verbiers and Klosters .

Comrade Hatton will be the new Mayor of the Mersey Massif and all Conservative Clubs will become workhouses for the fallen elite.


Remember you heard it here first.

Craig Walker
29 Posted 02/10/2018 at 10:17:47
King Kev is always good for a quote. Here's some other legendary quotes from the man himself:

“The tide is very much in our court now.”

"I don't think there's anyone bigger or smaller than Maradona."

“I came to Nantes two years ago and it's much the same today, except that it's totally different."

“We deserved to win this game after hammering them 0-0 in the first half.”

“The good news for Nigeria is that they're two-nil down very early in the game.”

“They’re the second best team in the world, and there's no higher praise than that.”

“Shaun Wright-Phillips has got a big heart. It's as big as him, which isn't very big, but it's bigger.”

“Gary always weighed up his options, especially when he had no choice.”

“Chile have three options – they could win or they could lose.”

“In some ways, cramp is worse than having a broken leg.”

"I know what is around the corner - I just don't know where the corner is. But the onus is on us to perform and we must control the bandwagon.

Mark Andersson
30 Posted 02/10/2018 at 10:18:31
Laurie 27... wow that must have been some atmosphere with 60 thousand scouser high on good football..

It seemed to me that team were playing for each other and the fans... The players looked like they were enjoying there football a Rolls Royce of a team. More than one leader on the pitch yet so many of them only young men... men who were proud to be a Everton player and played without fear...

Mark Andersson
31 Posted 02/10/2018 at 10:18:31
Laurie 27... wow that must have been some atmosphere with 60 thousand scouser high on good football..

It seemed to me that team were playing for each other and the fans... The players looked like they were enjoying there football a Rolls Royce of a team. More than one leader on the pitch yet so many of them only young men... men who were proud to be a Everton player and played without fear...

Lee Jamieson
32 Posted 02/10/2018 at 10:49:18
Just to have the 37th richest guy in the world talking about investing in Everton Football Club is impressive. This would have been out of our wildest dreams ten years ago
Don Alexander
33 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:07:07
Only the 37th richest??!!!

Typical Kenwright is what I say. Doesn't even try to get the top three dozen!!!

:)

Tony Everan
34 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:15:00
Usmanov’s investment would be welcome .I am sure he would help in facilitating the ways and means of financing the stadium. It would be good for the club and the economy of the city.

As a poster alluded above, I hope we are not being targeted by people behind the status quo and the accepted football royalty. The sky6 will not want to become a sky7 . It make me wonder whether there are dark forces lobbying against Alisher’s involvement in EFC. Possibly under the false guise of the current difficult political relations .

Another important point is that any investment is well spent. It’s the most important thing for sure, but there is a lot more than that involved in becoming a perennially successful football club.

Pat Kelly
35 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:24:19
Usmanov's sponsorship of USM Finch Farm was a toe in the water and a marker that he's interested in getting more involved with Everton. He's reported to have said there would be a huge amount of nuances in any such investment. Political relations between the UK and Russia have been soured over the Skripal affair and other tactics by Putin. Although the UK hasn't taken any further political action since the outing of the two Russian agents following their whistlestop tour of Salisbury cathedral there is talk of further sanctions against Russia. Hasn't Abramovich had issues about his visa ? Although Usmanov is from Uzbekistan it is a former Soviet Republic and they still have close political relations. But business is business and the UK will not want to cut itself off from investment post Brexit. This could be a slow burner.
Colin Malone
36 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:25:52
If he comes on board now, all negotiations and commitments for Bramley-Moore Dock would come to a halt, which might set us back a year or two.
Laurie Hartley
37 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:32:36
Mark # 30 - everything you said (and reiterated at 31 (smiles)), is correct.

However, we were disappointed when Charlton scored their consolation goal. We have always been demanding - (smiles again).

I can't remember where I ended up that night.

I thought Kenneth Wolstenholme's comment was very pertinent. It went something like this:-

"Much is spoken about formations these days but to me it looks like Everton are playing 1 9 1". That's how good we were as a team.

We will be great again.

Jerome Shields
38 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:38:32
Craig#29. I remember it all so well and Ron Greenwood taking over the commentary , right in the middle of answering a question. Those where the days. The football was good though.
Laurie Hartley
39 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:41:06
Len # 28 - spoilsport.
Derek Thomas
40 Posted 02/10/2018 at 11:45:23
Usmanov to set up 'finance company' with 'assets' of say 650M... more or less what he pulled in for the Arsenal shares - Alisher's your uncle and access is your flexible friend.

Gets back 200M in steel sales over the first few years

Sorted.

David Ellis
41 Posted 02/10/2018 at 12:00:48
lend us half a billion...that's what Utd make every year, year after year. It's a massive gap.
Ray Roche
42 Posted 02/10/2018 at 13:07:51
Mark “17
Keegan was a Yorkshire man, not a Geordie.
Nick Armitage
43 Posted 02/10/2018 at 13:19:59
Meanwhile on Twitter - thousands of kopite heads fall off.
Kev Jones
44 Posted 02/10/2018 at 13:35:49
‘When all the present day ‘dusts' settle, future generations of supporters will have a modern stadium built on the banks of the Mersey'.

Just as Liverpool's banks arose on the backs of chained slaves, we will do a little dusting and as those golden motes drift and settle in the glow of Alisher's new sun, the quality of Mersey will have sunk to a new low.

Mark Andersson
45 Posted 02/10/2018 at 13:36:20
Laurie... When Charlton scored, he took the ball from the net but looked pissed-off because he knew that his goal meant nothing. Another true pro who only ever wanted to win – the team was more important than his own achievements.

If any team in this current enviromant had the same attitude, then games of football would be a lot more entertaining and passionate.

We can only hope that Silva finds the right blend of winners and talent to produce such a team for the future. The reality is it won't happen.

John Malone
46 Posted 02/10/2018 at 14:19:16
It'll be just our luck that Usmanov makes himself available but politics out of his control put barriers in the way of him joining forces with Moshiri.

You get the feeling talks are going on behind the scenes in regards to funding the new stadium but it's as if something is stopping Usmanov going the whole hog in a full takeover alongside his pal.

On a positive, the noises coming across that Everton are nowhere near where they should be can only be taken as a positive and shows the intentions to take us the top are still there.

I'm still dreaming of the new stadium being built and Diego Simeone being at the helm!

Raymond Fox
47 Posted 02/10/2018 at 14:50:21
As Pat @35 says, Usmanov is already on board with regard to Finch Farm. I said in a previous thread about Usmanov, that he's a racing certainty to get more involved with the club in some other form.

We are still crying out for more investment in an attempt to bust the glass ceiling and stay there; it's all down to his judgement: Are we a worthwhile risk or not?! I think he'll take a punt.

Tony Abrahams
48 Posted 02/10/2018 at 15:02:32
That's the positive, John @46. Everton are nowhere near where they should be. Hopefully the negatives don't stop us getting back up there... please god.

I read it on ToffeeWeb the other week. Second Division Everton had 76,000, at Goodison on the same day First Division Liverpool, couldn't even get 30,000 at Anfield on an FA Cup weekend in the 1950s.

Maybe it was a long time ago but the only thing I'm certain of in this life is that history will always repeat itself. Well, I fuckin' hope it does anyway!

Dave Roberts
49 Posted 02/10/2018 at 15:35:34
Please stop calling him a Russian. Uzbekistan is now an independent country. He may have robbed all his money from the former citizens of the Soviet Union but he is not Russian.
Daniel Lim
50 Posted 02/10/2018 at 16:08:33
Scary thought Tony, scary thought. You sure you want history to repeat itself?

Second Division Everton had 76,000, at Goodison on the same day First Division Liverpool, couldn't even get 30,000 at Anfield on an FA Cup weekend in the 1950s.

Tony Sullivan
51 Posted 02/10/2018 at 16:37:27
Len Hawkins @28,

If only... especially the last paragraph!

Terry Riley
52 Posted 02/10/2018 at 17:52:01
Don't get worked up about this
Gordon White
53 Posted 02/10/2018 at 19:03:19
I'm with Trev #5

But it would be amazing! Everton would be truly at the top table.

I'm still having to pinch myself. We're bringing in quality players. There's a new stadium on the horizon, and it's going to be fabulous! Right on the waterfront. Our offices are in the Royal Liver Building.

It wasn't that long ago that I would have laughed if you had told me this.

I really hope he does. Really, really.

Dave Evans
54 Posted 02/10/2018 at 19:34:39
@44
'Just as Liverpool's banks arose on the backs of chained slaves, we will do a little dusting and as those golden motes drift and settle in the glow of Alisher's new sun, the quality of Mersey will have sunk to a new low.'

The dusts referenced were of the conscience-tugging political polemics chosen by those on their righteous chargers who shit non-equivalences for effect.

Blinded within the lyricism of the 'golden motes' of righteousness, you fail to mention that the whole of the western world was at the time built on the backs of slaves and most of current corporate business has at least half a pinky in what is today termed modern slavery.

I still hope our stadium gets built.

Kev Jones
55 Posted 02/10/2018 at 20:04:01
Golden Vision

When at last we win the champions league,
Deep in the bowels of the new main stand,
I'll tear his steel urinals off the wall,
Tip, raise the trough to full and puckered lips,
Blow hard victory's full and burnished horn.
Let wash the golden nectar and white froth,
Of 60,000 souls burn my throat, soak,
Soil my shirt and badge of tiny tower
Erect, upheld by sturdy girders clad,
Suck Alisher's teats of victory ale.
Be Gwlad! belch, cheer, roar! Come back for more.

Gordon White
56 Posted 02/10/2018 at 20:22:53
And
Kev?
Tony Abrahams
57 Posted 02/10/2018 at 22:28:05
Daniel, Everton getting 76000, is a scary thought? I might not have been born, but I know the game was famous because of the bravery and the passion shown by Davie Hickson.

Just been to Goodison tonight, and although football has always been my passion, it’s hard to feel anything but anger and frustration at watching such a passionless display from my team.

Is there a more fraudulent sport than football in the EPL, right now? I’ve just watched the slowest player on the pitch constantly try to run down the sides, and people wonder why he got no service?

If your centre-forward doesn’t show for the ball, then I can’t believe he’s allowed to stay on the pitch, but that second half was a shambles, whatever way we were meant to be playing, and if Silva, doesn’t get us back to the basics, we are going to need more than Usmanov’s money, to take away those very scary thoughts.

Lawrence Green
58 Posted 03/10/2018 at 12:08:39
According to the ever reliable Liverpool Echo (?), Jim White claims Alisher Usmanov has been offered several clubs in Italy and there is ‘categorically no likelihood' of the Russian billionaire investing in Everton.

We'll all have to rely upon Mr Moshiri and his gang to implement the changes that help move Everton to the next level then — mind you I'm not sure which direction the next level will take.

Tony Abrahams
59 Posted 03/10/2018 at 16:02:17
Funnny, Lawrence, I had a bitter red phone me about 11am, telling me to put Talksport on the radio because they were going to be talking about Usmanov not going to Everton.

I think that was the only thing that's cheered me up today, because, if he's not coming, then it's a non-story, which makes me realise how many people are getting concerned that this might just happen!

Warped logic? Maybe. Living in hope? That's me mate, especially if I know those other bastards are getting concerned!

Alan McGuffog
60 Posted 03/10/2018 at 16:17:13
Isn't this a bit Groundhog Day? Didn't we have this claim and counter claim about 6 months ago?

I'm certain of one thing... neither Jim White nor any other hack knows what he is planning to do.

Tony Abrahams
61 Posted 03/10/2018 at 16:37:39
True Alan, and it would just be our luck for Jim White to finally get one right!
Alan McGuffog
62 Posted 03/10/2018 at 16:41:43
Ha ha... how very true, Tony!
Ken Williams
63 Posted 03/10/2018 at 21:19:43
Believe it when it happens...
Brian Wilkinson
64 Posted 04/10/2018 at 07:11:36
Whenever Usmanov is linked, the media cannot wait to dismiss it.

This is far from over yet and will roll on and on.

Neil Pickering
65 Posted 04/10/2018 at 08:00:17
Even if he invests, and it's a big 'if' for me, I think we have shown that it doesn't matter how much money we have, we will still find a way to piss it away on average players.

Under Moshiri, with all his money, we have gone backwards on the pitch; even after the clear-out in the summer, I don't see any real progress.

I Think I liked it better when we didn't have any money, if I'm honest, as at least I had the hope a billionaire would come in and turn us into Man City. Now we have that billionaire but, rather than it being a dream, it's more of a nightmare.

Stephen Driscoll
66 Posted 04/10/2018 at 13:32:41
Thanks for the quotes, Craig – I need it to laugh after Tuesday night.
Jim Bennings
67 Posted 04/10/2018 at 13:53:20
There's having money but there's having money and spending on creating an identity.

We have lost our identity.

We have signed some decent players but none seem to create that same identity that was there when the group was small and players like Carsley, Cahill were in the dressing and before the the 1995 Cup winners team and League winning sides of the 80s.

We have no real identity anymore; it's just like watching an expensively assembled mess... and has been for more than 2 years.

Tom Dodds
68 Posted 05/10/2018 at 08:42:58
Late to this thread.

But I would've thought everyone would've (obviously) figured that Jim White was used (yet again) as a conduit for Moshiri (or vice-versa, Usmanov) to deflect away Russian anything-ness in the current Russo-cyber-hacking climate?

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