If the worst happens...

I mean I went over the exact same thing in my head but there it stayed.

But i'm sure such websites are not that accurate and other sources say he is on £10k p/w which seems more likely; though he signed his new contract in 2020 before he had really established himself in the first team so it could be lower.

Dominic back to his best with two or three goals very soon, Richarlison finding his shooting boots, midfield getting a grip of the game and adding a goal or two, defence fighting and concentrating for the whole game and putting their bodies in line no turning their backs on the ball along with Pickford guarding and controlling his six yard area the whole squad playing for each other talking and shouting to and at each other until we've got enough points in the bag.

I don't see this a catastrophic event personally. Horrible, depressing and damaging, but realistically we (along with every team outside the top six) were relegated a long time ago. The Premier League is made up of those six that can aim to qualify for the CL each season, and the rest. We are one of the rest.

In our favour is that we are one of the biggest, best-supported clubs of the rest, and will (hopefully) soon have a world-class stadium. Barring the kind of disasters you mention (administration, back to back relegation), if we can steady the ship we should find ourselves back in the Premier League relatively quickly, and return to being one of those teams with no chance whatsoever of CL football or winning the title, but an outside chance of Europa League football or a domestic cup final.

It's a different game now, we're no more a top six club than Aston Villa are. And it could easily be Villa in our position next season, the way they've played recently. Villa, us, West Ham, Newcastle - all big clubs who will spend as much time looking over their shoulders as they will looking up the table for the forseeable future.

As I say in the start I still think it's very far from a foregone conclusion. Somewhere around 50/50. And if it does happen then I genuinely think it could be seen as an opportunity to carve a better, new style and direction which is needed whatever happens.

I guess I'm saying that long term (whatever happens in the next few weeks) I think we should be ok; so long as the board is capable of learning from past mistakes (a big IF perhaps).

Those on high wages will be very difficult to move on – why would anyone want a player that they'd have to pay £100k a week or more for when they've performed so poorly this season (and, for many, in previous seasons as well)?

The unfortunate reality is that we're more likely to get interest in players like Pickford, Gordon and Gray (in addition to Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin who I think are nailed on to leave).

Leaving us with having to try and battle it out in the Championship with the majority of the players you're wanting to ship out.

Sorry to burst your bubble!

Do we want him to stay/will he want to? I'd keep him but it's anyone's guess.

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1. Will we survive the drop?
(a) Likely
(b) Evens
(c) Unlikely

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2. If we are relegated, when will we return to the PL?
(a) After one season
(b) After two seasons and into Bramley-Moore
(c) Become a Sunderland Tribute Act

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3. If we return immediately, what would be our PL finish?
(a) Relegation repeat like Norwich and Fulham
(b) 11th to 17th place
(c) Top ten berth

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4. What will be your attitude if we are relegated?
(a) Absolute disaster
(b) A minor blip, we are too good for Champioship football
(c) A real opportunity to sort out the deterioration in the running of the club for a more positive model and identity?

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5.Who should be the driving force to establish NEW EVERTON?

(a) Moshiri and Kenwright

(b) Thelwell and Lampard ONLY

(c) All four of them together

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Just a thought!

I would go .... 1B 2.B 3.B 4.C 5.B

If (IF) the worst happens, I think we would be more of a Newcastle and Villa than a Sunderland.

But. BUT. It hasn't happened yet so I'm just looking forward to my trip on Sunday.

I'll be surprised to see Pickford, Mina, Allan, Richarlison or DCL at the club next season either way.

Trevor @ 13

1. b
2. b
3. b
4. a
5. The Championship is a notoriously tough league to get out of, especially if you have financial issues so to go down and not come straight back up could set the club back a long way for a long time.

I only hope the rumours about no relegation clauses in contracts are just that.

It really does depend on how well the club is run and, with our current ownership and board, perhaps Leeds is in fact closer to our reality.

Anyway, Villa spent three seasons in the Championship before coming back up through the play-offs, whereas Newcastle have bounced back at first time of asking twice. So, maybe we need to analyse what the barcodes did right.

But I tell you what, if it does happen, then the biggest Evertonian in the world can shove his legacy where the sun don't shine. It's primarily down to him for the years of neglect and shady relationships, Moshiri must have little to do with him. But the failure to bring in a professional board after the shares purchase, and then allowing Kenwright to stay on, is Moshiri's failure.

I can't say we don't deserve to be relegated; I can say it will be a great achievement if we are not. That in itself is a damming indictment on the running of this club. Many of us have been saying it for so many years now, it's been like a train crash in slow motion.

The Fat Controller pulled all the wrong levers, right from the very start. Got into bed with the wrong people, conned the fans, I bet he believed himself in the end. A charlatan out of his depth. Love isn't enough in business, incompetence born out of arrogance and delusion. There is no satisfaction in prediction, only sadness.

Personally, I have parked thoughts relating to either the owner or chairman. No matter what happens on the field, their stewardship has been truly awful. So, for the next month, I will be cheering on Lampard and his team every day in the hope they can do enough to ensure survival.

I like Lampard, he speaks his mind and not afraid to either. I think he is a man trapped by circumstance but he was employed to find a way out of the mess he did not create. I wish him well and hope he does.

I cannot think of Everton in the Championship, it won't make a blind bit of difference to my love for the club, but I will fear for its future.

No need to overstate the obvious about this season's performances but you get what you deserve no matter how big you were in the past.
The dreaded drop has happened to big teams in the past.

We just have to pray results go our way in the next few weeks no matter how poor they play.

It's hard to like many of Everton's players, but they were better on Sunday, simply because they showed fight and aggression, and although I didn't want Mykolenko to play, I think he's one of us now, and that's the first time I've felt like that about any of our new signings, since Richarlison joined the club, and this has got to become the mantra whatever happens.

We will sink into the abyss with these idiots running the show if as expected we fall.

Whatever happens, it's a good critique of a squad that needs work.

The difficulty is in shifting players who are surplus to requirements but on big wages. So we won't be able to get rid of everyone we'd like to.

At the same time there may well be interest in Gordon and Branthwaite as two of the relative few very good young English players not already at a very rich club. Calvert-Lewin, Richarlison and Mina will also attract plenty of interest.

I'd be delighted to shift about 10 players on and bring about 10 players in but this won't be the reality.

If we bring in two or three quality first-teamers I'll be happy. Perhaps along with a couple of teenagers / speculative signings.

They don't need to be glamorous or expensive. They just need to be a good fit for the club with a clear role.

The key will be bringing in attacking options that can excel at Championship level. If we haven't already tapped up Dwight Gayle's agent, I'd be surprised, he could do a job for a season.

As you say, energetic and can pass and he seems to have intelligence, nous and the right amount of aggression. An upgrade on many of our current midfielders. I imagine he would command quite a price though, but certainly think he would do well in either the Premier League or the Championship.

That is an horrendous midfield in your predicted team.

I've decided we're not going down. I got my crystal ball out, and we're going to lose to Chelsea and Leicester, and look death square in the face.

Then we'll beat Watford, Brentford, Palace, and Arsenal in succession to survive. A "Great Escape" that will be spoken of 100 years from now.

And Ernie Baywood will go mad with glee realizing the impossible happened.

If he is not held accountable and forced out by the upcoming anger of our supporters, then nothing else matters. I personally may well not bother any more until he's gone, one way or the other.

I would gladly accept all of the current shite players at our club to be with us next season if Kenwright was forced out because I'm sure the whole deep-rooted malaise at the club would change with him gone. We will never move forward with him acting as father figure to us.

As we discuss things on here about our future in the Championship that horrible lying weasel is probably lining up Wayne Rooney to replace Lampard.

I've certainly not given up! Just my way of coping with the current predicament!

I'm sure there would be interest in the likes of Gordon and Branthwaite but as I see it we don't have to sell anyone who is on a long contract and on affordable wages. We would certainly raise money through the sale of Richarlison and probably Calvert-Lewin but after that we are at liberty to turn down offers on players who fit our requirements.

Jamie @33, my heart attack aside, I hope you are right!

There is a World Cup in November, if we do go down then any player who has even a sniff of a place in a qualified international team will be pushing to leave, so Pickford (incidentally Sam he is currently 5th in the saves table and is top English keeper), Calvert-Lewin, Richarlison, maybe even Mykolenko or Patterson will all wish to remain in the top flight to ensure their selection for the World Cup in Qatar.

Whatever happens I hope Frank and his new team will be with us next season. I see no point in making yet another change of manager and would hope that Frank be given sometime to build his own squad.

However, we really need an urgent change at board level as the Club have continued to stumble from one crisis to another under the current personnel. We clearly need more people who have the right level of expertise and experience and let's draw a close on those who think this is a part time hobby.

It's all up in the air really. If we do go down, Moshiri would go, which would be an unmitigated triumph, rid of that ridiculous buffoon at last. The reason he has been such an awful spender is it's clearly not his money.

I've seen him at games with Kenwright, not even following what's going on, and then jumping up half a second after Kenwright if something happens. Otherwise absorbed by his spreadsheets of Kazakhstan or wherever the fuck. We've just been an entry into development of the docks, and a vehicle to launder stuff.

But paradoxically, if we stay up, we keep the bellend and god knows when we get rid. Kenwright is entirely to blame for the whole mess, he had control and sold us to gangsters for a top price. Cheers, Bill.

Let's all hope the worst does not happen, I am hoping we can put the following results together over the final 6 games to bring us up to 40 points and safety. Not a lot of wriggle room but it can still be done, as Tony keeps on saying there will be plenty of time to discuss the fall out should the worst happen.

Chelsea (d)
Crystal Palace (w)
Brentford (w)
Arsenal (l)
Leicester (d)
Watford (w)

I also think it'll be Leeds that join Norwich and Watford in the bottom three.

You're either moonlighting Sam or somebody is stealing your work mate.

For me, we've got to take a calculated risk and try and get straight back up, but in a way that creates a platform too. Obviously we'll need to cash in on the likes of Richie, DCL and Pickford (and anyone on a wage above £60k who isn't out of contract the next summer anyway)…..but really want to see us keep the and supplement the young lads if we can! At least 22-25 players needed for the extra games next year….

1st 11:

[New goalkeeper]
Patterson Godfrey Branthwaite Mykolenko
Doucouré Onyango Iwobi
Gordon Simms Gray

2nd:
Virginia or Tyrer
Kenny Welsh Gibson Nkounkou
Davies Warrington [New midfielder]
Mills Dobbin Broadhead

Everyone else can go… let's hope the DoF has a few 19-year-old pearlers in there, or Frank can still get a few of Chelsea's gems without Roman there.

I agree on all your points though I fear Mykolenko and Gordon may be among the few attracting bids. Gomes could prove to be our Jack Rodwell in terms of Sunderland (uselessness, massive salary) comparisons.

But it is my feeling that whoever decided on Benitez who should take responsibility for getting us into this mess and take with him whoever failed to oppose the move.

Delph, Holgate, Davies, Allan, Doucoure, Gomes, and Rondon can go. Sold or otherwise. Calvert-Lewin looks like he wants out.

If we stay up, add decent quality signings to those who remain, put this season behind us and learn from our demise.

If we go down (I hope we don't), keep Lampard and let him build around those who stay, that's all we can do.

Attack

Fulham's goal difference is +60, the next two +30. Mitrovic is the Championship Player of the Season. Can Calvert-Lewinmatch Mitrovic's exploits? I think Dom and Rondon will give us enough firepower at that level. Gordon is a menace and getting better so he's a certain starter. Gray's end product is concerning me, running into blind alleys, nearly every shot blocked. I'm expecting better from him.

Midfield

Tom Davies is possibly not strong enough for a central midfield berth in the Championship. Sell or keep as a challenger / back up. Allan will be gone, also Delph, also Mr X. Iwobi and Gomes I would sell / loan if possible. I think the central midfield is where we need to be massively focused on buying two durable fighters who can boss games and play good technically too. I would keep Doucoure and play him as the central attacking midfielder, free him up and let him play the game he wants to, his height and athleticism will be a big asset in most games.

Defence

I share the sentiments about Branthwaite, we have a fantastic player. Can't wait for him to be starting every week. Mina will be gone, Keane I'd keep for squad depth, same for Holgate who can cover for Patterson. I think we need to sign a hard no-nonsense centre-back who can keep us strong and resilient strong through a long tough campaign. James Tarkowski is a free agent in June. He's not a cultured player but he is a right hard bastard of a centre-back. Him on a free could be good business and allow us to strengthen those midfield enforcer roles.

Kids

As you say, there are prospects coming through, but some may be the best still a bit young. Broadhead and Simms have not done much wrong on loan and deserve to stake a claim preseason. Warrington also. However, I would fully expect Dobbin to make an impact and be challenging to start, especially in Gray's place.

- Virginia / Begovic
- Kenny / Patterson
- Mykolenko
- Keane
- Godfrey / Branthwaite
- Davies / Gomes
- Doucoure
- Iwobi
- Gordon / Townsend
- Gray / Dobbin
- Brereton-Diaz / Pukki (or similar)

This is because we may well have next to no transfer budget despite about £100m of player sales.

Whatever budget we have needs to be spent on goals.

Players like Pukki and Brereton-Diaz are both out of contract. Good chance we could get them (unless they prefer to warm a bench in the Premier League).

Quite where this would leave Dele Alli, I do not know. I suppose Newcastle might take him off us but there's a good chance we'd have no takers at all.

Some of the U23 players might get a few games but not many. They're not even holding their own in Premier League 2.

They said they are really enjoying competing in a league where any game can be won by any team.

PMA and UTFT!

Talk about enjoying playing in the Championship brooks no positive with me. Let us just remind ourselves of 9 league titles and give one last push to the finish line of safety, then concentrate on getting rid of the anchor weights at boardroom and Finch Farm.

Many years ago, and some years after the changes (money grab) to the "Funding" of Police at matches, I was party to some of the figures charged to clubs, and it was what I'll call, eye opening.

With that's going on, nationally, internationally and, frankly closer to home, fretting over the fate of a mismanaged club full of overpaid hired hands seems small-minded in the extreme. But, it's the way I feel and I guess the way most of us feel.

So, Sam, your article is therapeutic, reassuring and confirms that we will be fine no matter what. I suffer from extreme acrophobia and one of the real dangers is the pull to jump off a height to escape it. Get it over with. These are unbearable days; slow, drawn-out misery. There is a match coming soon that will be the one. The Wimbledon day.

Jamie Crowley, I would love to be looking back in June and marvelling at how incredible it all was. I couldn't take that scenario, Jamie!
Let's beat Chelsea and see Burnley and Leeds lose. Let's do this as easy as possible. Let's not do it the Everton way.

Kenwright and miss dynamite aren't fit for purpose. In order to get promoted back should the inevitable happen we'll need some savvy and intelligent people appointed on the board.

The current lot need booting out and it may be that these leeches won't need much convincing to leave especially as the big money won't be flowing in to the Championship.

There has to be a thorough clearout at the top with a revamped board capable of taking the club forward.

If Everton beat Chelsea on Sunday, Bill's face will be zoomed onto, either by Sky cameras, or on the big screen, doing his happy clapping at ft, with Sky saying he bleeds Blue, or some shite like that.

He has us over a barrel, chances are we will still need points for our last home game, we have to get behind the team, giving no time to vent our feelings towards the board. They are going to get away with it yet again, there is nothing we can do, we can hardly protest, when we need to get behind the team.

Our full focus has to be these 6 games, but like I say, how can we hold the board accountable.

We cannot go down this route next season, if we survive, need a damn good clean out, from the top.

Stop giving out long contracts and huge wages, recruit better, but as long as Bill and Ben are still in charge, nothing is going to change, until we invest in professionals to run our football club.

You shouldn't have put your picks at the bottom of your post. I was picking as I went down the list and came up with the same as you.

Six games to play - let's make it three points under our belt and five to play by Sunday night. It is still in our hands.

“We will FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, with all our might for the boys in the royal blue jersey.”

How many times have I sang those words with all my heart with my dad (God rest his soul), home and away during the 60's before I emigrated. I hope those words rattle the stands at Goodison on Sunday and summon the spirit of days gone by.

Your 12,000 miles and early hours dedication puts my 410-mile London to Liverpool round trip, literally on planes, trains and taxis on Sunday into insignificance. Respect sir.

But we are all there behind them in one shape or form. I hope the club and the team feel that.

I'd love to know if Moshiri cares or is even aware why his club is run so badly? Strange for an accountant to just sit on his hands especially.

I'm not quite ready to indulge in this kind of thinking. I recall the old saw: "Forget any Plan B, make Plan A work."

I have said on the live forum and elsewhere, if we can show the fight and tenacity displayed against Liverpool, we will escape, probably just.

However, my current nightmare scenario is needing something from the last game at Arsenal.

Zoom? Ah hey Laurie give us a bleedin' chance I'm just getting used to the landline telephone!!

A baggies fan back in early March said "you need a win". I said "playing you next season in the championship". I was serious in the run we were on and still remains. Statistical data can tell you everything. We have no form and pressure to perform and get 3 wins, sorry I don't see it.

All that money spent and no 20 goal striker! Lukaku exit left a massive hole and that was years ago! We must find strikers for next season whatever league we are in.

First we must get dyche as manager. A must we have a manager with championship experience and players suited to that league. The championship is a grind week in week out! It's a fight to the finish. Also Our financial plight, who knows the outcome.

All I know championship football is very likely or if we do stay up. Change must happen. The gradual decline of this great club is very sad.

I have a 4am start on Sunday morning and won't get home until about around midnight.

I don't care, just make it worth my while Everton.

The only team with a worse record than us at the arse end of the table in recent weeks is Villa, albeit they have eight points and plus seventeen goals difference compared to useless us. Stating the obvious, every one of our shitty team rivals has a way better recent record, and especially the "mighty" Burnley whose squad cost way less than a tenth of ours,

We are royally fucked this season. Other current threads steadfastly ponder just who has created this catastrophe, as if it hasn't been blindingly obvious for decades.

Those of us who recognise that April is always followed by May are just a touch more savvy.

For us fans and the players it has to be the furthest thing from our minds.

We have to give our total support and the players have to give everything they have and go a little bit further.

We will survive.

Then I'd gut the entire squad and give our youngsters a real go, stop instantly the diving culture that has sadly crept into our club, play in a retro Toffs kit... with amber socks, with no sponsorship neither.

A total blanket ban of all national press when we play a Premier League team in both Cup ties (fuck 'em)... and go for both promotion and a League Cup win.

We also need European ties to look forward to back in the big time and with our new stadium looming too, as well as scouting young British talent and not overpaid fucking foreign Mercenaries.

Rant over... A good article too, Sam, btw.

How the hell a team is going to emerge from managerial after managerial change. The Board is a different matter, it is a cut-throat business and we need a cut-throat chairman CEO and directors while Kenwright still shoots his duff at The Wizard of Oz.