Mike Parry wants support for his Wayne Rooney campaign

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Radio pundit and minor Everton shareholder, Mike Parry, wants Derby County boss Wayne Rooney to replace Rafael Benitez at Goodison Park.

Parry launched into a rant on Twitter yesterday evening (December 12), asking Everton fans if they would support him as he "makes a representation" about Rooney to the board of directors.

He tweeted: “To all @Everton fans: I am one of few independent shareholders of our mighty club. I hate it where we are.

“If I make a representation to the board that we should exit Rafa Benitez and APPOINT WAYNE ROONEY as our new manager with Dunc already in place, would you support me?”

“Wayne Rooney @WayneRooney was the youngest @Everton debutante, youngest goal scorer, the youngest ever England player and scorer and the youngest player ever to score a hat-trick in the Champions League. SO WHY CAN'T HE BE EVERTON AND THE PREMIER LEAGUE'S YOUNGEST EVER MANAGER?

“Mr Moshiri who is @Everton owner has been magnificent in his support and funding of our mighty club.

“But the policy of appointing big name managers at £1m a month has not worked.

“It was better for the 3 weeks Duncan ran things .. WAYNE ROONEY SHOULD BE EVERTON MANAGER.”

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Dennis Stevens
1 Posted 13/12/2021 at 16:27:47
It really is panto season, isn't it?!
Robert Tressell
2 Posted 13/12/2021 at 16:44:41
I've always thought of Mike Parry as a complete wanker. This has done nothing to change my opinion.
Mike Gaynes
3 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:05:25
Wayne Rooney. 25% win percentage at Derby. Renowned leader of men. Role model, example to youth. Respected football thought leader and inspirational figure. Yeah, he's just who we need.

As long as we can keep him out of the bars. And his girlfriends' Volkswagens.


Robert Tressell
4 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:16:32
I actually don't care about Rooney's misdemeanours Mike. I mind that Mike Parry - an embarrassing big mouth and self promoter on British radio - just trots this crap out to gain audience reaction. It saddened me deeply to discover he is an Everton fan.

If Rooney keeps Derby up despite a 21 point (i think) points deduction then it would be fair to take him seriously as a manager. He's not doing too badly with that against the odds. But he's nowhere near ready for a crack at the Everton job now. I hope Rooney does keep them up and does well over the next few seasons though. If that happens, who knows?

Mike Hayes
5 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:18:25
Could you imagine the granny groupies 😳
Brian Wilkinson
6 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:23:05
Can anyone remember one lone singer in the crowd, backing not forthwith, but a few fits of laughs, and a chant of your on your own afterwards.

I think Mike Parry has just recreated the chant.

Gary Smith
7 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:25:54
No…..just no.

But I’d still have him ahead of this dinosaur

Ray Roche
8 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:33:53
No,no and thrice no.

And that goes for Ferguson as well.

No ex players just because they ‘get the club’

Kieran Kinsella
9 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:34:30
Imagine Keane and Pickford thinking “wait a minute this is our former 200k a week team mate who came in with big fanfare did fuck all then was given away.” And more recent signings will reply “what James is the new boss?”
Jerome Shields
10 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:35:08
Mike Parry. Never listened to you and now never will.
Tony Everan
11 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:41:39
Is the impact he has made enough to suggest he can take on the Everton job ? Parry is being ridiculous if he thinks Rooney is the solution. There has to be some evidence first before he is considered, winning promotion to the PL or a near miss playing great football would get people interested.

Other Championship managers are ahead of him. I am not advocating Steve Cooper at all for the job, I don’t know enough , but there is definitely something about this manager. Through the in-laws side I follow Forest a bit and he has made a big impact since replacing Chris Hughton. Out of nowhere he’s got them organised, winning and scoring goals. A young (42) up and coming coach who could perform well with the DoF model.

Adrian Evans
12 Posted 13/12/2021 at 17:51:42
Choice, Rooney or continue with this shit show, Red Agent sent to destroy us.Send us to tge Championship.
Take Wayne everytime if thats the choice.
Plenty to write about in the Echo.Premier League players put through changing room doors, off the field antics.
Oh, Everton win again.
He aint no brain surgeon, or pure as a bapist minister.
Would pay himself a million a month from his personal petty cash tin.He don't need the money, doubt he us getting paid at Derby.

Apparently he was playing 18, 19year old academy players and winning matches cos of the embargo.
25 win rate, with youngsters, no structure, owner or wages.

Guess what our win rate is in the past 8 games.

Yep Wayne and big Duncan.

Oh I think he was 16 yewrs 262 days at kick off, I was there.20min in I think Lee Dixon said he was a 25year old seasoned beast of a Pro.
Genius footballer.

Think we need him not a 61 year old Spanish Sunday League player.
What sort of a genius sets up like Sun, takes off his best chance of a goal if he played him properly.

Genius Benitez on £1million a month.
Wayne ???Yep if it was put to the vote, guess what.

But that wont happen, Wayne is to smart to take this shit show on with assurances.His list would be as long as anyones arm.

So we got Jan to May.Thinknit ll be 18games.

You could bring in Pep, Tutchal, Klopp.
Could they give 100%assurance of us not going down.
There own personal £50million against Moshiri's.


That big a job, not knowing how much £ they can spend,without selling.
Oh, 6 point,9point deduction in Mar for breach of FFP rules.?

How much crap do we think we are in.

Nick Page
13 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:00:15
I despise this gobshite more than I do his big mate BPB. Have they been lunching together in London again? If you think Wayne Rooney is the answer you are clearly delusional.
Andrew Hight
14 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:05:10
Ferguson is an example of the decline of this club. Zero ambition. He had about 5 good games in an Everton shirt, in between constant injuries and suspensions. Done nothing to earn his current role, at least Gerrard, Lampard etc go out and try and prove themselves.
Joe McMahon
15 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:07:30
I saw the headline. Errrr Hell No!! Please just no.
Jay Harris
16 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:09:35
Tell me its really April fools day.

Those promoting a drunken, granny grabbing yob from Crocky to lead the blues to greater things must be smoking crack.

We need a leader and motivator who can handle big names and kids alike. Rooney certainly has done nothing to earn that right.

Rafa's tactics whether right or wrong require a lot of hard work. Some players don't like hard work or conforming to team play and that is the problem at Everton(and for that matter UTD).

Personally I would give Rafa more time even though I was opposed to him coming and am not impressed with recent showing.

These players and the Kenwright clique have seen off so many managers I would give Rafa the chance to weed out the hangers on because his skin is thick enough to endure it and at least give us a foundation to move forward with a new setup.

Brian Murray
17 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:14:43
After listening to mike parry on and off for a few years there’s no doubt he’s a character and a blue but a bit emotional with it ( remind you of anyone ). Moshiri has had enough buffoons giving him the wrong advice time and time again. Not his fault he’s not a football man. I don’t believe moshiri has actually lost interest it’s just that he’s had his fingers burned by as I say the wrong guidance so enough is enough investment wise. He’s had enough and bmd apart he’s won’t bankroll anymore 30 year old never has beens. Can’t really blame him
Brian Murray
18 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:25:01
Oh and if you remember the toffee tv lad ( ped ) was asked his views on the mike parry show why Everton are in such a state and can’t pick a decent manager ( god how we have grown lol ) Parry shot him down and wouldn’t have a word said about his teary mate. Said it all really. Case on point Mike Lyons gave his heart on the pitch and if you seen him close up his face was contorted with every sinew when he was chasing a ball ( usually as as a last ditch attempt thrown up front ). Didn’t make him a beckenbaur. Tenuous comparison I know. Just saying.
Kunal Desai
19 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:26:20
Seen this fella on the Ale with his Pal Brazil and Parlour, by the sounds of it he's still is on it.
Tony Abrahams
20 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:27:47
Moshiri uses Jim White, so Kenwright has started using that big daft divi, maybe?
Nicholas Ryan
21 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:31:47
At first, I laughed... then I scoffed... then the phrase: 'Desperate times, Desperate measures' kept going round in my head. Rooney & Ferguson for the rest of the season; if we shoot up the table, they can stay; if not, then they go at the end of the season.

It would be a massive gamble. but would it be much worse than what's happening now?

On reflection, I don't think it will happen, [and on balance I don't think it should happen]. I think Benitez will be given at least until the end of the January window. After that, I think we will improve both our play and our league position.

'The Wayne & Dunc Show' .... unlikely, but not as crazy as some people think. Boring, it wouldn't be !!

Geoff Williams
22 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:46:45
Not sure anything can be worse than what we have now!
Mike Gaynes
23 Posted 13/12/2021 at 18:48:53
Robert #4, I've never heard of Mike Parry, no idea who he is, so for me the idiocy of this idea is unaffected by the source.

I just think Rooney is utterly bereft of any qualifications to be a manager of a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store, let alone a football club. Irrespective of Derby's financial woes and pending relegation, he has directed the club to five wins in 22 games this season. 11 in 46 last season.

That's 23.5%.

The idea of bringing in a manager with no experience, no original ideas, no reputation for leadership, a miserable managerial record and a clownish personal reputation... just because he once played for us... even the words you can't use on this website fail to do full justice to that thought.

Joe McMahon
24 Posted 13/12/2021 at 19:13:18
Another thought on the Kenwright teary dream team of Ferguson and Rooney. One has been in prison and the other has done community service. How low do we need to go. Mind you the only thing Everton are good at is EITC.
Peter Neilson
25 Posted 13/12/2021 at 19:33:34
I don’t want either Ferguson or Rooney but what the fuck has their prison/community service got to do with it? Thought I was reading the Daily Mail.
Alan J Thompson
26 Posted 14/12/2021 at 05:10:00
Like Mike Gaynes, I too have no idea who this Mike Parry is. I used to know a Mo Parry but the nearest he ever got to the radio was turning the telly on, good Evertonian though.

What strikes me about the reactions posted is that a lot seem to disagree with the suggested replacement but very few that there needs to be one.

Phil Gardner
27 Posted 14/12/2021 at 07:14:20
Mike Parry, whilst entertaining in an odd way, is a Kenwright sycophant and shuts down any criticism of him, as does that other creep, Jim White, on TalkShite. Parry is indicative of the old boy's network problem that has crippled Everton to date and it is in keeping with this mentality that he would suggest – and Weepy Bill would agree to – a Rooney & Ferguson takeover and a populist ejection of Benitez.

I refuse to attach any blame for this current malaise to Benitez and I think it is embarrassing to do otherwise. To sack this bloke, to not have the courage to stick with him as he battles to overcome other people's cock-ups and negligence, would diminish the club even further and hold it up to utter ridicule.

Yes, being a Blue is to be a member of a broad church, but the likes of Parry & Kenwright should wield little influence in 2022. Let Benitez do his job and support him.

Brian Murray
28 Posted 14/12/2021 at 07:22:34
Phil. Post 27. I said as much in earlier post. The likes of Parry are music to the ears of Kenwright. Time for Moshiri to fucken wake up and see who's advising him before his new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock is all but destroyed with relegation – or at the least so toxic, he will walk away.
Eddie Dunn
29 Posted 14/12/2021 at 07:38:36
Mike Parry used to be a regular on TalkShite, creating audience reaction with ridiculous views on all things football. Pathetic radio.

Every time I have heard him, I have winced with embarrassment that he has anything to do with Everton, an odious fuckwit.

As for Wayne and Duncan. Two guys who do love our club, people who surely can pick a team and send them out. Could they do worse than Rafa?

As for people having done time or community service – look at the filthy money and sponsors of Premier League footy.

Derek Thomas
30 Posted 14/12/2021 at 07:58:17
How bad we are is the reason its even being considered, no doubt prompted by Boys Pen Bill.

Is he doing the right thing for the wrong reasons? Or the wrong thing for the right reasons?

Whatever his other faults, nobody ever said Rooney doesn't have an outstanding 'Football Brain'... Barkley should have 25% as much and he'd be a world star.

The hard part is putting it over in a manner that lesser mortals can take it on board... or even want to take it on board.

This is probably Benitez's trouble too.

Ken Kneale
31 Posted 14/12/2021 at 08:15:05
Phil 27 – spot on.

This is all part of the politics going on behind the scenes. Sensible people should see it for what it is – Bill Kenwright and his Finch Farm team manoeuvres and nothing more.

Tony Abrahams
32 Posted 14/12/2021 at 08:31:32
Nelson Mandela did a lot of jail, whilst David Duckingfield has never done a day behind the bars.
Andrew Ellams
33 Posted 14/12/2021 at 09:16:05
Whilst it's harsh to criticise anything Wayne has done at Derby, due to the absolute shambles he's had to work with, there is no way he's the man for a job like Everton.

On a side note, anybody seen the rumour coming out of James Pearce at The Athletic that Duncan Ferguson is to be replaced by Gary McAllister?

Dave Abrahams
34 Posted 14/12/2021 at 09:23:28
Brian (28), Good post... but you spelt ‘fucken' wrong it should be ‘fuckin'. I wouldn't be surprised if Terry White is on about it later today!!
Danny Broderick
35 Posted 14/12/2021 at 10:02:09
What an embarrassment we have become. Suggestions for our new boss seem to centre around Ferguson, who has been a coach forever but only ever managed 3 or 4 games as a caretaker. And now Rooney, who has been a manager less than a year with Derby County.

There was a time, not so long ago, when we appointed managers with a solid background who had skills that could be transferred to Everton. Now, the job is like a hot potato, and anyone can have a go. The alternative is Rafa staying. How depressing…

John Pickles
36 Posted 14/12/2021 at 10:44:41
I wouldn't let Wayne Rooney run a bath. I don't know Mike Parry but I'm guessing they share room temperature IQs.
Brian Murray
37 Posted 14/12/2021 at 11:47:18
Andrew @33.

Another cheating kopite, McAllister, robbed us, moving the ball 10 yards in a derby defeat which Andy Gray praises and found amusing. Kopite scab.

Ray Roche
39 Posted 14/12/2021 at 11:56:18
Mike Parry is a prat who is frequently invited onto radio programmes because he has an opinion on everything. He talks rubbish, and is as controversial as he can be, which is why talkSport, Radio 2 and others give him airtime. People listen, are outraged, so phone in. Anyone taking him seriously needs to give their head a wobble.
Kevin Prytherch
40 Posted 14/12/2021 at 11:56:22
In all fairness to this, people bang on about Unsworth or Ferguson needing to leave to get managerial experience. Rooney has taken over a complete shit show at Derby County and is currently performing admirably. If he manages to keep Derby up this season, he will have achieved more than Rafa has in recent years, in my opinion. If he proves himself elsewhere, why shouldn't he be considered?
Niall McIlhone
41 Posted 14/12/2021 at 14:26:36
I am with posts 27 to 31 on retaining the current manager, at least until we see how results pan out in January? I fear, however, that the tide is turning against RB, starting with our vocal away fans, and I continue to worry that Moshiri’s shaky hand is hovering over the trap door lever. As for Mike Parry, he has had quite a stellar career in (print) journalism prior to his jocular radio utterances, and of course, he is talking out of his arse putting forward WR and DF to replace Rafa. I do, however, think that there can be another level for Rooney to reach if he perseveres I read that he is well regarded by his players and tactically astute. It is just not the right time at all for him to be in the from to move from one car crash club in Derby County to another in Everton. I also think that one should avoid the likes of Parry and White at Talk Sport, and I wish Moshiri would use the club’s own PR team to address fans directly, either through the Everton TV or ( independent) Toffee TV. Better that than having these radio jocks with their piffle.
John Raftery
42 Posted 14/12/2021 at 14:29:21
Rooney is doing well in extremely difficult circumstances with a very poor squad, in a dire financial position and after a punitive points deduction. He may in time prove himself suitable to be our manager.

Appointing him now would do him and us no favours… in fact, it would be an act of gross stupidity.

Dave Lynch
43 Posted 14/12/2021 at 14:31:13
Parry... the most embarrassing Evertonian since Kenwright.
Tony Abrahams
44 Posted 14/12/2021 at 14:47:51
Interesting that Andrew, but hasn’t McAllister just gone to one of his ex-clubs, with Steven Gerard?

I’ve heard David Weir’s name mentioned in the past, but I don’t know how much truth there is in that, either.

Michael Lynch
45 Posted 14/12/2021 at 14:59:30
We've been through so many managers in our tragic race to the bottom, that I can't really give a shit any more. Benitez? Rooney? Eddie Howe? It just doesn't matter, we're doomed until we're not doomed. Let's face it, Carlo was supposed to be one of the best in the world but he was a poor Everton manager. Martinez is looking a world-beater with decent players in the Belgium job, but we hounded him out after some mind-numbingly bad performances at Goodison. Even Big Sam was no better and no worse than the others.

Put the tea-lady in charge, It won't make any difference.

Phil Gardner
46 Posted 14/12/2021 at 15:00:41
Andrew @33. James Pearce is possibly the most vile rabid kopshite ever to con a job as a journo. I’d believe that idiot Parry before I’d listen to Pearce who was given carte blanche by the red echo rag to slaughter Everton in print at any time of his choosing. I’ll never forget his fury when we had the temerity to get a 0-0 draw at Analfield some years ago. The abuse and mockery of Everton in his article was way beyond the remit of any objective professional journalist. The man is a class one w*nker.

His latest ‘report’ in the Athletic on the recent derby was all about ‘revenge best served cold’ for the travesty of the injury on St.Van Dijk. Here’s his old Echo report…is this the work of a balanced journo.


Mick O'Malley
47 Posted 14/12/2021 at 19:20:37
I'd have Wayne fucking Sleep instead of Benitez... but seriously, I think Wayne is doing a decent job at a basket case of a club, but he is not what we need yet... but could he do any worse than the current incumbent?

Mike @23, he has only lost a few games, they only had 3 players signed on about a fortnight before the season started. They've been deducted 21 points. I think he is making a good fist of it considering it's mostly youth players and journeyman pros who he cobbled together a week before the season started.

Dave Williams
48 Posted 15/12/2021 at 11:24:24
Parry is an idiot who says anything to provoke a debate and attract more listeners into phoning the radio station.

Rooney hasn't done anything yet as a manager to suggest he could cope at Everton. I am seriously worried that we could drop to League One very quickly with this squad. <{P>Too many changes of manager generates an attitude amongst players who don't listen or care because the next manager will be arriving in a year or so and they think it's not worth trying too hard. Only the proper professionals in the club will put in a real shift and we have too many in our squad with this attitude.

The transfer window is a huge risk – Rafa may sell some of our better players to generate some cash and, if he buys badly, we could be finished as a top-flight club. Does he deserve trust of this magnitude? And, if he doesn't, then who does?

We need someone who will give young players a chance because our squad of experienced pros does not often give 100%. I can't figure out why so many of them can't pass a ball 10 yards to a colleague and then move into space. It is not a difficult game but pass and move seems beyond our players – even though most of them cost a fortune.

Why can't we coach them to do this basic skill? Are they so poor, or so thick or just not bothered?

I don't know who the answer is but Rooney hasn't done anything to convince me that it's him!

Christopher Timmins
49 Posted 15/12/2021 at 12:18:31
Wayne Rooney is doing a reasonably good job in trying circumstances at Derby County; however, like any manager who is linked to our club, there will be a significant minority who will want him out before he is even appointed. Patience is not something that supporters of our club possess.

In fairness to Arsenal, they have stood by their manager over the past 2 years. I don't believe he would have survived at Goodison Park, and they are now showing signs of progress.

We are in need of a major overhaul and that takes time and patience. David Moyes left this club some 7 years ago and it will take a good 3 or 4 years to clean up the mess that was made after his departure.

John Keating
50 Posted 15/12/2021 at 12:40:50
No to Rooney.

However, give him his due, like Gerard and Lampard, he has at least got off his arse and given it a shot. Unlike a couple much closer to home...

Paul Hewitt
51 Posted 15/12/2021 at 12:43:38
The more I read about this once great club, the more embarrassed and depressed I get.
Ian Edwards
52 Posted 15/12/2021 at 20:23:58
I've just seen rumours about Rooney. If that happens it will be Moshiri's worst ever decision. Rooney is thick as a brick. We may as well liquidate the club. It would be over.
Robert Tressell
53 Posted 15/12/2021 at 20:35:43
Ian - out of interest, who do you consider good enough for the Everton job?
Clive Rogers
54 Posted 15/12/2021 at 20:47:46
Personally I just don’t see Rooney as a manager. Can see Kenwright pushing for him though.
Joe McMahon
55 Posted 15/12/2021 at 21:35:49
Ian @52, I'm not particularly a Rooney fan either, but you being slightly harsh.

I'm probably on my own but I'd prefer Lampard or Scott Parker, or even Dunc with Stuart Pearce as assistant. (I'll get me coat!)

Tony Abrahams
56 Posted 15/12/2021 at 21:39:40
Scott Parker, is a very good shout Joe.
Ian Edwards
57 Posted 15/12/2021 at 21:46:01
Graham Potter. Someone with experience of mid-table teams. Good Coach and tries to play football. Every Manager Moshiri has appointed has been a sit back, pack the side with DMs, counter-attacking, one up-front dinosaur.
Dennis Stevens
58 Posted 15/12/2021 at 21:55:21
I'm not sure even Harry Potter could sort out the mess we're in.
John Raftery
59 Posted 15/12/2021 at 22:05:06
Ian (57)

You say Potter is a good coach who tries to play attacking football. I think he is a good coach but he is without a win in eleven matches. Why have Brighton only scored 14 goals in 17 games? Also their fans have booed the team after recent home matches.

Mark Taylor
60 Posted 16/12/2021 at 01:25:53
I was never a big fan of Benitez getting the job but if we end up with Rooney as manager, we know who pulls the strings and thus get confirmation that Moshiri truly has lost the plot. How in god's name did that guy make £1bn plus? My view is he didn't, it was Usmanov making the bucks and he just fed off the table.
Roy Johnstone
61 Posted 16/12/2021 at 10:27:14
Mike Parry is a Blert.
Danny O’Neill
62 Posted 16/12/2021 at 10:57:37
I wish I didn't always come over as being anti ex-Everton; I'm not. But this one doesn't feel right. For different reasons.

Maybe my sentiment is born out of looking at the current possible options for ex-Everton players to be manager and having the opinion they just don't seem good enough or ready. And I always look at credentials to be manager, not whether they have previous connections with Everton or not.

Rooney could be different. The key there being 'could be'. But not now.

He is still relatively new to managing. I'll be consistent in my views; at least he is learning his trade. He's taken the jump, gone to a lower level, coached, and is now managing.

It's not just that it's Derby, but this has too many parallels with Lampard written all over it for me. And Lampard walked into a strong squad with the ability to spend on Europe's best players as well as benefiting from the output of an academy that clearly had its foundations laid several years ago.

Rooney, well, would walk into something quite different.

Too soon, but I wouldn't rule him out in future if it goes well for him at Derby or elsewhere.

Barry Rathbone
63 Posted 16/12/2021 at 11:18:36
I used to enjoy Parry as agent provocateur on Alan Brazil's radio show but he always came over as trying a bit too hard regarding Everton.

I think this is another of his wind-ups or he needs the attention. Is he working these days?? I thought he was dead.

Colin Malone
64 Posted 16/12/2021 at 11:29:31
Rooney, next Everton Manager. FFS. All these ex players talking shite on TV and radio. Thierry Henry, talked the talk, failed to walk the walk. Shearer. Talked the talk, failed to walk the walk. Gary Neville. talked the talk, failed to walk the walk. Parlour, Ferdinand, Murphy, Sutton, Kevin Campbell etc, in my opinion talk fucking shite.

Rafa is a disciplinarian who wants to change the structure / mindset of the club, which in my opinion is well overdue. Jobs for the boys, no young talent coming through for far too many years.

We have got to get behind our club, no matter who is in charge. This is a time where they need us most.

Bobby Mallon
65 Posted 17/12/2021 at 22:12:49
Mike Gaynes @3.

What has Wayne Rooney's misdemeanours with women got to do with how he would do as manager??

Bobby Mallon
66 Posted 17/12/2021 at 22:28:34
Fucking people on here slagging Rooney and Ferguson off for their misdemeanours is unreal. I have slagged Ferguson off for IMO being a lap-dog. But his prison sentence was unjustified and all to do with sectarianism.

As for Rooney, he was the greatest English footballer to play for this club. Just saying.

Tony Hill
67 Posted 17/12/2021 at 23:10:30
Rooney was the greatest player I've ever seen in the flesh, Bobby, playing for Everton (and I include Young, Ball and Harvey) - I mean, of course, the early Rooney. Indeed the best English footballer I ever saw playing for anyone, stretching back to the earlyish 50s. Vastly better than the likes of Gascoigne, Scholes, Giggs and the other fine darlings.

Indeed, at the time, he was better than Messi and Ronaldo - a fact which it is now impolite to mention. Better, for the avoidance of doubt, than the young Charlton and the forever young Edwards.

But he was and is an ugly scouser, he was unfitting, and he didn't give a fuck about his body. He declined accordingly. He doesn't have the means now - or, I suspect, ever - to be a successful manager because he lacks self-discipline and has the self-destructive reflexes of many people who are/were exceptionally gifted.

What a joy he was though.

Danny O’Neill
68 Posted 17/12/2021 at 23:24:08
@Bobby, my frustration with Ferguson the player is not a slagging off. I was always frustrated he never reached his potential. The reasons, I'll never know really. Was it injury that can impact any player? Was that impacted by lifestyle? Did he just not want it enough? That's what I always thought about Duncan. He seemed a reluctant footballer. Which is what worries me about his ambition as a coach and potential manager. How much does he actually want it long-term and full time? He spent years not wanting to speak to the press, so doesn't particularly like the spot light, which I can understand. He'd rather be in the background. But that is just an observation and opinion.

On Rooney @Tony Hill. Probably the best player in my lifetime we've produced. My Dad (RIP) would argue Colin Harvey.

I always thought Rooney had more natural talent than Ronaldo. Big shout I know, but I believe that. But Ronaldo worked harder and looked after himself better. Rooney rested on his laurels and natural street talent in my opinion.Not that he has a bad trophy count or CV, but he could have been even better.

Still Sheedy for me though!!

Tony Hill
69 Posted 18/12/2021 at 17:54:00
Colin is my very favourite Everton player, Danny @68. The soul of our club and a fabulous all-round talent, of course.

I understand your generation's love of Sheedy, another Olympian.

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