Blue till we die

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Two quotes from Frank Lampard this week have raised little reaction (to my admittedly imperfect knowledge). Both illustrate exactly where this once great football club now lingers:

"Our aim is to stay in the Premier League" (Source: post-match interview, BBC Radio 5 Live, after Bournemouth 4-1 Everton)

"We were probably favourites to go down at the start of this season. There was a reason why we ended up where we did last season." (Source: post-match interview, BBC Match of the Day, after Bournemouth 3 (should have been more) - 0 Everton).

I don't blame Frank, though I personally never wanted to appoint an unproven coach. Nor do I agree with those on here and elsewhere who (rightly) opine that either he should go now, or we should stop over-reacting and focus on what we (once) delivered - against Palace (this season) - and indeed Liverpool when we were not overawed for the first time ex-Ancelotti.

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The reality, I believe, is that this once fine club is dying. It's surely on its last breaths. Only a radical overhaul can stop this patient from dying – and I don't just mean a euphemism for relegation.  I'm talking about our very existence.

At the moment I only see a future for Everton if they re-merge with Liverpool and complete a reversal in history. A thought full of horror.

I know, I know, it's ridiculously extremist even to think it – but I (we) are on the floor here. Again. While the life-support machine (the fans) are close to being finally switched off.

Survival seemingly remains in the hands of the fans and, I'm sorry to say as a former board member of ESCLA, we – the impassioned, gathering, blue-smoke mourners in waiting – need to force change.

I don't know how, and it's only my opinion. But I believe without it we will be dead.

Blue till we die.

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Paul Kossoff
1 Posted 14/11/2022 at 17:06:34
David, the only thing I don't agree with you is the club will die. It won't and never will so long as, you yourself said, Blue till we die, which is the one thing that will keep our club going.

I, like many others, will never stop supporting Everton. Not the players or the board matter but the club itself and what it stands for. Kenwright has to go, along with Barrett-Baxendale and Sharp, and anyone else that holds sway with Kenwright. Moshiri is on his way out. As soon as he can sell and not make himself look a failure, then he'll be off.

Lampard and the DoF must take responsibility for bringing in players that are simply not good enough. Who we get in to replace him? Well I hope it's not Dyche, because even he can't plug the hole in our dam that is getting bigger and bigger as we watch? Always a Blue.

Barry Rathbone
2 Posted 14/11/2022 at 17:29:22
With what has happened across the park since their emergence from the 2nd Division, we probably shouldn't have any fans younger than 50 years old but we do – loads of 'em.

The defiance in the face of adversity has become our stock in trade. To all intents and purposes, we were relegated last season but the fans leapt out of the trenches, charged the guns of every expert, and shoved them down their throats.

If we go down, the wailing will be unmerciful, but the pride of this club will rise phoenix-like to face the challenge. We won't fall limply into the abyss or indulge vultures trying to pick over our bones, we will fight back. I absolutely promise you we will fight back.

I've said this before but it is as true now as it ever was. Our roots drive further into the earth than almost any – it's why new generations of blues continue to flower and blossom and, whilst modern times haven't been good to us, we are still arguably the most successful of all the clubs who invented the English league.

Our lineage is almost unmatched, we are the eternal flame of English football. We will never die.

Paul Kossoff
3 Posted 14/11/2022 at 17:37:19
Well said Barry!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Rob Halligan
4 Posted 14/11/2022 at 18:12:57
Barry, excellent post, but don't forget, football was only invented in 1992. Every stat, every record is always “In the Premier league history” not, in the football league history. Apparently Alan Shearer is the greatest goal scorer EVER, in the premier league. To me EVER means just that, Ever since football began. Dixie Dean is the greatest goal scorer EVER in English football history.

You also say we are still the most successful of all the clubs who were football league founders. Very true, and probably will be for all eternity, and as it stands, we are still the fourth most successful club in terms of league titles won.

Tony Abrahams
5 Posted 14/11/2022 at 18:54:16
Inspirational, Barry, just like the younger Evertonians, you mention.

I've been hearing little whispers that there are soon to be big changes at Everton, god knows we've waited long enough.

Paul Kossoff
6 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:01:16
Rob, Alan Shearer scored 283 in 559 appearances.

Dixie scored 354 in 399 appearances for Everton.

Dean's greatest point of note is that he is still the only player in English football to score 60 league goals in one season (1927–28). At that season's end, he was 21 years old. Middlesbrough's George Camsell had scored 59 league goals the previous season, although this was in the Second Division.

Who is the greatest? Dixie Dean, of course.

Paul Birmingham
7 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:06:59
Inspirational, Barry, on par with Churchill's rousing 2nd World War speeches.

Kunal Desai
8 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:07:35
#5 Come on Tony Abrahams you can't just leave it there and tease everyone. What are these whispers?
Danny O’Neill
9 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:09:13
This club will never die.

It's been a tough couple of weeks and a lot of travelling for many Blues only to be let down by poor performances and results. The 2 x walk to Bournemouth station and trip towards London on the train back wasn't a great place to be in last week.

Those young supporters continue to amaze me. I can at least relate back to what I witnessed as a young lad and believe that it's coming back. They have had nothing but stories from the likes of me and older generations that fuel their passion and commitment.

Total respect.

Paul Kossoff
10 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:09:20
Tony, come on, what have you heard?
Paul Kossoff
11 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:18:53
Just a reminder to all how great Dixie was.

Everton were already the champions when Arsenal visited Goodison Park ON THIS DAY in 1928… but there was still a tense atmosphere around the stadium.

That’s because, the title in the bag, all the attention was now on the 21-year-old centre-forward William Ralph ‘Dixie’ Dean, who was three goals away from immortality.

Twelve months earlier, Middlesbrough’s George Camsell had scored 59 goals in the Second Division to create a record that many thought would last forever.

Dean had other ideas, though, and set about scoring with stunning regularity.

With nine games to go of that 1927/28 campaign, Dean was still 17 goals short of creating a new record.

He found the net eight times in the next half-a-dozen matches, which meant he still required nine from the last three… surely too big a target even for him?

He subsequently scored twice against Aston Villa, and then four times against Burnley to set up a dramatic finale on 5 May.

James Shaw gave the Gunners the lead in the second minute but, shortly after, Dean headed home the equaliser to give the Evertonians hope.

Then, in the eighth minute, Dean was fouled in the penalty area and when the referee pointed to the spot, there was only ever going to be one taker.

He scored!

The record had been equalled and Dean had the best part of the match to complete his hat-trick and overhaul Camsell.

Everton defender Jack O’Donnell put through his own goal before half-time but nobody really cared. The outcome of the match was totally secondary to Dean’s record attempt.

The second half ticked by and, despite having chances, the Everton and England centre-forward was thwarted time and time again. Would it be a case of so close, yet so far?

No, it wouldn’t!

With eight minutes to go, Alec Troup provided the most famous assist in the Club’s history when he delivered a beautiful corner-kick into the Arsenal box, allowing Dean to power home a header.

Goodison Park went absolutely berserk and the ecstatic cheering for their 60-goal hero continued unabated even when Shaw scored another Arsenal equaliser before the end.

The referee wisely allowed Dean to leave the field before the final whistle, for fear of a pitch invasion. What a day!

The newly crowned champions may not have won their final game of the season, but history was made that still hasn’t been matched… and probably never will be.

Tony Hill
12 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:22:08
Yes, top one that, Barry @2. Blue Blood.
Neil Copeland
13 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:26:09
We are Everton, the greatest football club in the world bar none. Evertonians are born and always will be, so no, we will never die.

This club is no ordinary club, we are special – bonded by very special supporters young and old,

Last season showed what it means to be an Evertonian, we don't give up and won't this season either. We will find a way,


Tony Abrahams
14 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:44:27
I've heard whispers that would make me very happy, but I've heard them before and been left disappointed, so until something concrete happens (if it does happen) then I'm just going to keep dreaming of Everton entering a new era without our saviour!
Rob Halligan
15 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:46:34
Tony, is that a clue, your last sentence?
Tony Abrahams
16 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:53:50
I'd say it's more of a dream, Rob, but if I was going to Dubai for 10 nights, I wouldn't be worrying about Everton that much for the next couple of weeks, mate!

Brian Murray
17 Posted 14/11/2022 at 19:58:20
Tony a. Hope there is a god and there is justice. The domino effect would be a game changer for the club big time.
Dave Abrahams
18 Posted 15/11/2022 at 19:56:54
Tony (14),

My favourite Everton song is “We Shall Not bBe Moved”.

“Our Saviour” thinks that song is about him!!

Tony Abrahams
19 Posted 15/11/2022 at 20:15:11
He's put himself in the same position as Hyman Roth, Dave, because with the money he's made out of Everton, he could pay a couple of million, just to take a piss pain free.

But, hopefully soon, we will be free of the lying bastard, and Bill Kenwright can go and do a Bill Shankly, in his final years, and swap watching Everton to watching Liverpool, because I'm sure he'd fuckin love to do that.

Dave Cashen
20 Posted 15/11/2022 at 20:33:00
Barry -post 2

I was sifting through all the worry and anxiety of the past couple of days. Then I came to your comment

Superb post. You've brightened my day

Tony Abrahams
21 Posted 15/11/2022 at 21:07:37
Go on to Paul’s post@11, now Dave!
Danny O’Neill
22 Posted 15/11/2022 at 21:23:28
What a post Paul @11. Pride and passion over generations that is unrivalled.
Dave Cashen
24 Posted 15/11/2022 at 21:33:33
I saw Paul's post straight after I posted Tony.
That was brilliant too.

It's easy to get despondent for Evertonians sometimes. Then you read something like this and you realise. Its who you are

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