Onana confirmed as an Everton player

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Everton have officially unveiled Amadou Onana as the club's latest and biggest signing of the summer after the midfielder's move from LOSC Lille was confirmed today.

The 20-year-old put pen to paper on a five-year contract on Saturday in time to take a seat in the stands during the Blues' frustrating loss to Chelsea but the final paperwork due from the French club's side meant that the €36m transfer couldn't be ratified until today.

The final deal between the two clubs could end up being as high as €40m once all appearance-related terms are met and Everton have reportedly agreed to a clause guaranteeing Lille 20% of any sell-on fee. 

“I think I can play every position in centre midfield, whether that’s as a holding midfielder or a box-to-box as a No 8," Onana told evertonfc.com. "That said, wherever the manager needs me, I will play there.

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“I chose the No 8 shirt because I am a big fan of Kobe Bryant. His work ethic and the way he has inspired me so I’m happy to have that number at Everton.

“The Everton fans are amazing," he continued. "I saw their support last season and it’s also one of the reasons why I chose Everton. I am looking forward to meeting them at Goodison and, just hearing about the atmosphere, I get goosebumps.

“I’m just excited to be on the pitch and show what I can do and help the team as much as I can.”

Though the Toffees have had a strong interest in Onana over the summer, he seemed destined for West Ham just a few days ago after the Hammers agreed a €33m fee for the Belgian international. However, Everton stepped in with a similar offer and, according to reports and sources close to the discussions, better personal terms than David Moyes and his employers were prepared to offer for a player who only made 11 senior starts in Ligue 1 last season (although he did play eight times in the Champions League).

They were able to hammer out a deal with Lille that is said to have involved a down payment of less than £10m, allowing the club to sign a player whose total value looked beyond their scope this summer due to the Premier League's profitability and sustainability rules.

Blues boss Frank Lampard and Director of Football Kevin Thelwell had identified Onana as fitting a very specific profile of player and the club were prepared to back that judgement by meeting the Dakar-born man's terms.

It has the makings of a savvy signing for a player who is naturally both-footed and whose relative youth but significant room for growth should, at the very least, preserve his transfer value. 

Though billed as a holding midfielder, Onana describes himself more as a “box-to-box” man and his youth and rangy frame would certainly lend itself to that kind of role in the Premier League, particularly if fellow Senegal-born midfielder, Idrissa Gueye, finalises his switch to Goodison Park in the coming days.

Gueye has added to his game since leaving the Toffees three years ago for Paris Saint-Germain but Frank Lampard may well have him pencilled in for the number six role in front of the back four that would open up the possibility of playing his preferred 4-3-3 formation.

Sources who know Onana well spoke in glowing terms of the young Belgian international to Sky Sports correspondent, Alan Myers, with one declaring him, “potentially the best young midfielder in European Football at this point; an old-fashion leader” and that he possesses a personality that is “very rare to find”.

Other remarks made favourable comparisons with a successful Belgian import from Everton's past:

“He has incredible potential, with a Marouane Fellaini physicality. Very imposing and good at many things but he needs to find the right place to become a specialist to one role.

“His winning character and leadership at just 20 is unique, He has a huge future both at club level and internationally, a French coach told me he has a big chance to be in the Belgium senior squad for Qatar World Cup if he plays well in the Premier League between now and November."


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Brent Stephens
1 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:02:38
Signed. Another step to a solid squad.
Rob Halligan
2 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:04:59
Yep, Brent. On Sky Sports News and the club website. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Martyn Thickitt
3 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:07:56
Excellent news, now for that elusive striker.
Brent Stephens
4 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:08:44
As I typed "Another step to a solid squad", a spoonersim did come to mind about our revered chairman.
Mike Hayes
5 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:08:56
Another decent player in – we just need a striker or two.

Assuming that’s on the cards given we’ve let three go out on loan, with Calvert-Lewin injured and Rondon the only one available… 🤷

Mal van Schaick
6 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:09:06
Great to see that we scouted a player and got him. I’m sure he will bolster our midfield with his box to box energy.

I hope that he is a player for the first team now and not shoved into the background as a player for the future. We’ve had enough of them in the past.

Mark Ryan
7 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:09:13
To the tune of Agadoo, showing my age:

Amado-do-do – beat the redshite and score three,

Amado-do-do – beat the shite and home for tea.

Welcome Amadou, hopefully a better chant will emerge. Welcome to EFC UTFT

Lester Yip
8 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:15:51
Welcome! Very physical presence that's missing in CM for a long time. I'm glad the club being prepared this time even if Doucoure is going to leave, we won't be left stranded.
Will Mabon
9 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:19:47
Brent, good one. I like a roonespism.

Seems like we're doing a more considered 2016 here. To repeat Martyn above, and others, time for the forward line now. Nothing crazy, mind...

Ian Hollingworth
10 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:21:30
Welcome young man, you are a much needed recruit to our midfield.
Michael Lynch
11 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:22:44
Very excited about this, can't wait to see him play.

On a side-note, I just watched his first interview and how does a 20-year-old, born in Senegal, who has lived in Belgium, France and Germany, speak such good English? Impressive.

Mike Keating
12 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:25:08
Sounds like a real catch – unfortunate name though.

Forget spoonerisms, look up Oananism.

Andrew Bentley
13 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:25:16
Delighted to have central midfield recruitment and he looks a real physical presence.

Can’t believe he’s only 20 – if the interview is anything to go by, then he comes across as very mature, grounded and will be another leader on the pitch which we need.

Looking forward to seeing him play. Let’s not judge him too early, it will take time for him to get up to the pace of the Premier League.

Let’s hope he’s more Peter Reid than Gbamin!

Geoff Lambert
14 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:25:26
Welcome to your new home, lad. Play your heart out and the fans will love you.

Just got Sky News on and the main discussion is Man Utd decide not to sign 34-year-old has-been... FFS, fookin Sky darlings hey!

Rob Halligan
15 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:26:48
Michael # 11.I’ve just watched that as well and was going to comment on it. Think he speaks better English than me!!
Shane Corcoran
16 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:28:52
Everything sounds very positive and hopefully he turns out to be a good as they say.

However, the old git in me is trying to recall the reaction to when we signed Gbamin.

John Burns
17 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:30:25
Moshiri said to judge him at the end of the transfer deadline. So far, it's looking very promising.
Rob Halligan
18 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:32:34
Geoff #14.

I said on a WhatsApp group about the way Sky Sports News goes on about these so-called Big 6 clubs makes you want to vomit. I just wish they would all sod off and join their European Super League.

Ian Bennett
19 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:35:18
A very positive signing in an area we needed pace and physicality.

Just be patient with him to settle in. I remember Fellaini looked dreadful at first.

Shane Corcoran
20 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:35:58
Anyone hear his interview? Is it just me or does it sound like there’s an English accent buried in there?
Mark Murphy
21 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:37:19
Rob @15 he sounds more like a yicker than Coady! 🤣
Will Mabon
22 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:39:12
Michael @ 11:

while the undoubted destruction of education in much of the western world plays out apace, there seems to be something going on in Africa and other parts.

I don't know what's happening but there are many very multilingual younger people around. Many similar young foreign footballers are like this. Impressive.

John @ 17 - Moshiri said it, but if it works out, Bill will claim it.

Will Mabon
23 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:40:44
Rob - I can't watch it anymore.
Ajay Gopal
24 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:43:07
While I am happy with this signing, I just wish him to stay healthy because the last few big money mid-fielders that we signed - Doucoure, Gbamin, Allan, Delph, Gomes, etc have been plagued with injuries. We desperately need Onana to succeed for Everton to pull us back to mid-table respectability. I do wonder how we are able to afford these huge transfer outlays (Onana, McNeil) with only Richarlison being sold so far? I want to see a few exits to ease my mind - people like Gomes, Gbamin, Allan, and at least 1 out of Mina/Holgate/Keane are all sellable assets. If Thelwell manages to do that, he is a genius, as that will free up some finances to help fund the purchase of a striker or two that we desperately need.
Geoff Lambert
25 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:44:41
Been down this road many times before but IF and yes its another big IF these new guys all gell and we get in someone who can find the back of the net. top six could be a possibility. What am I saying," Dr he has got out again".
Will Mabon
26 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:44:46
Mike @ 12 - that was all discussed on another thread yesterday, think we can toss it aside now...
Dom Kearney
27 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:48:25
Delighted with this signing and Coady. Bring on Gueye and 1-2 strikers! Posted this suggestion on Coady thread last night:
Onana, Onana na na, Onana na na…Everton!
Sam Hoare
28 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:50:29
Very interesting if somewhat risky signing. £30m on a relatively inexperienced 20 year old is a gamble of course though he looks to have a lot of attributes with defensive work and ball carrying already at a high level. Looks confident and physically very imposing.

But he is raw and there will be mistakes. He may not make the starting XI for some time especially if Gueye comes (who will slot straight in). Must be patient.

The good thing about these types of signings is even if he flops you can usually shift young players with potential fairly easily (we managed to make profit on Moise Kean somehow). But if all goes well he’ll be a £50m player in 3-5 years. time.

Dave White
29 Posted 09/08/2022 at 13:56:43
‘Onana, what’s my name? Onana, what’s my name?’

Apologies to the oldies who might not know this tune!

Made up with this signing!

Bill Gall
30 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:04:54
It appears that he really wanted to come after the conversations with Lampard and Thelwell, maybe this is the start of keeping B.K. out of transfer negotiations and just signing the contracts.
I think I have been going on for a couple of seasons that our major problems have been in the midfield and hopefully if we get Gueye this provides us with an experienced midfielder alongside a promising young ambitious player whose size alone will make the opposition nervous.
That is one hurdle overcome, now we have to solve the next problem, A Goalscorer.
Paul Turner
31 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:10:29
Very impressive first interview from the young man - seems intelligent, humble and grounded.

Welcome to Everton, Amadou — make yourself a legend!

John Keating
32 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:11:10
Michael 11
yes agree. I noted how well he spoke English.
I've been down to Dakar a few times and everyone speaks French and the local stuff.
Only thing I can think of is that he went to private school.
Minik Hansen
33 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:15:37
Here's for selling on some players, and that we can afford a proper striker.

Onana, welcome to the club!!!

Steve Brown
34 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:16:00
Sam @ 30, I know he was costly but he is young, high potential and has resale value. In addition, we have added hugh experience and leadership in Tarkowski and Coady at no cost this season.
Iain Latchford
35 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:19:11
From what I've seen and heard of Onana, the player who springs to mind is Patrick Vieira. Big, strong, athletic, can pass, tackle, get up and down the pitch etc. All very exciting.

Then the spectre of Alex Nyarko creeps into my head and brings me back down to earth. Does look a great signing though (Onana, not Nyarko).

Pat Kelly
36 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:22:03
So... "significant room for growth"? We'd better raise the roof at BMD.

Only played 11 games last season. He'll fit right in. We'll lose 20% to Lille when sold on, so this is a gamble he increases in value as we're paying potentially €40M.

I'd prefer we were paying this for a decent striker. But then we can now sell Gordon as reportedly Newcastle want him for £35M, and trade up for a goalscorer.

Frank Crewe
37 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:25:38
I think Lampard is trying to build a strong spine in the team. Tarkowski and Coady at the back. Onana and hopefully Gueye in the midfield. All strong characters and good leaders. All he needs now is a good aggressive forward and that should do it.

Of course that last part is easier said than done. Let's hope he can do some business in that area by the weekend. If not, we can always go with Rondon. Not the quickest but he's no shrinking violet either.

Mark Ryan
38 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:27:22
Dave White @ 29,

That's a much better shout than my Agadoo reference.

You talking China McClain? A much better shout than Black Lace and Agadoo – and he'd probably prefer it/ but only just, ha ha!

Jim Potter
39 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:29:06
Get Gueye now and then a new striker and it's been a better window than I envisaged initially.
Brent Stephens
40 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:31:27
So is this the only money we've spent on transfers this window. And that only a £10m down-payment?

Sounding like clever stuff. And not finished yet.

Tony Everan
41 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:32:13
Very exciting signing, delighted Frank has convinced him to come to Everton, he’s going to be a top player for us.

Still very young so will grow into the team and the league as the season progresses, but I think he will be influential from the off, especially next to Gana.

A goalscorer is essential next and then we will give any team a game.

Dave White
42 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:32:42
Mark @38,

It’s Rihanna: https://youtu.be/U0CGsw6h60k

John Kavanagh
43 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:34:02
Another good signing who has the potential to be as useful to us as Fellaini was.

If we can get Gana across the Channel and (please God) a striker by Friday to keep Rondon out of harm's way, then we will have done some very astute business for a change. We're beginning to look like a professional outfit – are Blue Bill and Moshiri away on holiday?

I can then turn on Sky 6 news, put my feet up and watch Man Utd go into complete meltdown and Herr Klopp whingeing about the grass being too dry. A new fiercely competitive Everton will really give them something to worry about. Dogs of War 2 is about to be released.

Christopher Timmins
44 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:34:17
Stay fit young man!
Pat Kelly
45 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:37:52
Brent #40,

Didn't we spend £15M, potentially rising to £20M, on McNeil? And maybe a loan fee for Coady?

Mick Roberts
46 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:39:46

Sell Gordon!?!?!

One of only a few who put a shift in every game last season... really???

Brent Stephens
47 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:42:09
Pat, I bow to your greater knowledge. Probably right. Still not bad.
Julian Wait
48 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:42:23
Surely we can do something to the tune of Hey Jude?

Oh-Na na na nananana, nananana, Amadou.

Oh-Na na na nananana, nananana, Amadou.

Brian Murray
49 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:48:23
Yes, stay fit, avoid the curse. Don’t climb in lofts. Lifts sofas, Step back on signs, or carry heavy scrapbooks from the boardroom.

Coyb – giz a striker or two.

James Marshall
50 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:51:19
I can't wait to hear from whoever it was on here last week who complained that Onana would be a bad signing because he was too tall! Ahahaha! Still makes me laugh.

He seems a really bright kid, super athletic and he can play a bit too. He could be a really great signing for us, despite his height!

Pat Kelly
51 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:56:10
Mick #46,

Gordon puts a shift in but he has no end product. I'd sell him now while we can cash in and invest in a goal getter.

Jamie Crowley
52 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:56:16
Yeesssssss! Get In!!!!!

I just now saw this. This kid is going to be great. He's also the exact, Thelwell-type signing we need.

Absolutely thrilled. Haven't been this excited about a signing since we go Lukaku.

Speaking of which, if we sign Sasa this will be our best window since the Lukaku - McCarthy - Barry window under Roberto.

Great business. Really happy with Thelwell and Frank.

Ray Jacques
53 Posted 09/08/2022 at 14:58:21
I wish the lad well, but I always think back to Gbamin and the disaster he has proved to be.

Hopefully our luck will turn for the better with this signing, we are due a good one.

Mike Gaynes
54 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:01:05
Pat #51,

I see you're still running that fever. Hope it passes soon.

Julian #48, or a bit of Ringo:

Oh-na-na-, oh-na-na, he can tackle, he can fly....

Steve Brown
55 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:05:17
Pat @36, so he has not even put his boots on and you are having a pop?

He actually played 40 games for Lille last season; he started 11 league games. Get your facts right or, even better, give the young man a chance.

Pete Gunby
56 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:06:21
They’ve done it to us all again lads. Planted the seeds of hope where despair was firmly rooted.

Please, please, please let this be the change in tides we’ve been yearning for since 1986.

Steve Brown
57 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:06:26
As for selling Gordon, LMAO.
James Marshall
58 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:10:33
My posts are a mess, I'll try that again
James Marshall
59 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:12:00
He's 6-foot-5 and his name's Onana.

He's coming to England to play with Gana.

We've got no money so we paid with Klarna.

Amadou Onana!

Jay Harris
60 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:13:07
Over the moon with this signing and Coady, Tarkowski, Vinagre and hopefully Gueye but we still need to add goalscoring to the team and not just a striker.

McNeill, Gordon and Gray will not add sufficient goalscoring to the team. Hopefully Doucouré will become more prolific with the new boys in place.

Brian Williams
61 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:18:03
James #59.

Heard that one at the weekend. Not so sure about the Gana part now.

I wonder whether the club were using the chase for Gana as a distraction ploy?

Pat Kelly
62 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:20:25
Steve #55,

The article above says "a player who only made 11 senior appearances last season".

Hopefully he'll make more starts for Everton this season.

Colin Glassar
63 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:20:25
Get a striker, or two, and who knows how good we could be this season?
Tom Bowers
64 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:22:45
Fascinating now to see what the starting midfield will look like.

So many options but Doucoure, Onana, Iwobi and any other one player from a dozen gives Frank plenty to think about.

No matter what – if they don't have that class finisher, it will still be a struggle to win games.

Paul Kossoff
65 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:27:25
Onana na, Onana na, hey hey Everton.

Onana na, Onana na, hey hey Everton.

We are steaming now!👮

Martin Mason
66 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:29:18
One possible outcome, based on previous windows, is that they will all be hopeless. I think and hope that not this time.

Based on our 'istory, Frank could be out by Xmas too but I think he has what it takes. We have a fairly big hurdle to clear and getting into a losing rut again could be a very easy thing to do.

Ian Bennett
67 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:30:10
The end for Gbamin, Allan, Gomes and Davies if Gana arrives now. League Cup at best.
James Marshall
68 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:30:52
Martin, you win the cheeriest post on the thread award.
Mark Taylor
69 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:32:52
To be fair to Gbamin, he was injured almost before he kicked a ball and, to all intents and purposes, has been injured ever since. What is not entirely clear is whether the cumulative effect now renders him unfit to play at this level.

So far it seems so, but my heart tells me he deserves one last chance now he has gone many months without injury. He was good once.

Just hope we have better luck with our latest recruit. Surprised we've got him because he was actually on the radar of numerous other clubs and recently, because of FFP, we've tended to rely on cheap cast-offs...

Paul Cherrington
70 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:33:45
Really pleased with this signing and he looks a decent player in an area we are short of quality. If we get Gueye in and a top-level striker, I think this will have been a very good transfer window.

Glad to see us targeting not only proper solid pros with character for a change but also the best young upcoming talent in football.

James Hughes
71 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:34:00
Pat K... sell Gordon?! Has the heat got to you, mate?

Looks like Frank is building a decent team so his end product may increase.

Jack Convery
72 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:34:06
Welcome, Amadou, to the best Club in the World. Give us your all and you'll be fine.

Thanks to Thelwell and Lampard for getting this one done. Hopefully Gueye and a class forward (or two) are not far behind.

Stuff Villa and the ball will be rolling.

Barry Rathbone
73 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:39:45
Frank putting some real physicality into the defensive aspect of the side but it will be fascinating to see if we can score. But at least it's a plan.
Alan J Thompson
74 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:41:56
James (#68);

I think we all hope that they are all successful but we will need at least half of them to be otherwise.

And somebody correct me if I'm wrong: under P&S rules, we will again have to sell one of our better players each year to either raise transfer funds or just balance the books so that losses for the latest 3 years are less than £105M.

Also, write-downs owing to Covid must be ending soon if not already.

Sean Roe
75 Posted 09/08/2022 at 15:56:01
That's the defensive side of the team sorted. Three really strong characters by the looks of it in Tarkowski, Coady and this lad.

If we can't put the ball in the back of the net at the other end, these signings are going to be under tremendous pressure to get us a point every game, which still may not secure survival.

I don't believe for one minute that we won't end up with further attacking options.

Martin Mason
76 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:01:47
James @68,

Sorry mate. Just thinking of the worst case and I guess what has happened with our recent transfer history.

I'm actually really positive and think the window has gone amazingly well. There has to be a bedding-in period but I see a late surge after the New Year for a Top 10 position and a great future.

Craig Walker
77 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:13:16
Pleased with the recent recruits but, if supporting Everton has taught me anything, it's not to get expectations raised by how good things look on paper.

How many players have I been excited about in the past (Sigurdsson, Kean, Rooney coming back, James Rodriguez, Allan, Doucoure etc etc). As others have said, we need options up front because the spine of the team is looking good.

I was in the minority who thought Benitez did well to get rid of Digne when he did and bring in Patterson and Mykolenko (possibly one of two good things he did in his time, the other being the signing of Demarai Gray for less than £2M).

I will be glad when we get our first win because I never fancy us away at Villa and you're only ever 2 or 3 bad results from a crisis at Everton.

Mark Ryan
79 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:15:54
Dave White @ 42,

Makes perfect sense. Better than the other two... but only just!

Ciarán McGlone
80 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:16:11
Seems like a decent signing. Looking forward to seeing something different in midfield.

But – and it's a big 'but' – I'm not sure why we're after Gueye as well. Worried that two defensive midfielders on top of a 5-man defence leaves little room for attacking options.

Anyway, we'll see how it plays out.

Jamie Crowley
81 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:17:58
I just watched the interview and this kid is impressive as fuck. Well spoken, his English is sublime, he's very confident but doesn't appear cocky or a jerk, talks the right talk of hard work.

I also liked the fact he brought up his family. We need good people and hard workers, not kids that think their shit doesn't stink and possibly locker room cancers. I can't emphasize how thrilled I am with this kid signing.

For all the people who understandably are on the "wait and see" approach, just let yourself go for a day and be happy we've signed such a talented young player.

Jamie Crowley
82 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:20:58
Something else I just thought of. It will take a few games for these new players – and there's a decent number of them now – to play together and start to gel. So if things aren't looking that great on the pitch for the next 3-4 games, I'd implore patience.

We've measurably improved with our signings. It might take a bit of time to start firing on all 4 cylinders, but it'll come. And please, please God, keep the boys healthy and injury-free.

Jamie Crowley
83 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:24:44
And, three in a row is the maximum, but while I'm on a roll, why not?

In the last year, I've gone from despondent under Rafa and completely lacking any hope or excitement, to now being utterly thrilled, excited for the future, and hopeful under Frank and Kev. God it's a great feeling.

The absolute low going into the season last year, to now, is like night and day. I feel like Everton are running well under good people. I hope this feeling lasts for years.

Jack Convery
84 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:29:12
Jamie sorry for spoiling you hatrick of posts. Good points made in all of them btw.
Paul Kossoff
85 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:29:49
I really am unimpressed when grown men resort to associating deadly diseases with football just to put a point over.

Get your dictionary out, James Crowley, shame on you.

Duncan Lennard
86 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:31:45
Ma-do-do-do Ona-na-na, is all I want to say to you,

Ma-do-do-do Ona-na-na, he’s 6-feet-10 and plays in blue!

Jamie Crowley
87 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:35:24

Americanism. "Locker room cancer" is a very common phase here in The States that I've never seen anyone take offense to.

Didn't think twice about typing it. But I'll grab the dictionary and try to expand my vocabulary nonetheless.

'Shame' is a bit strong, by the way, for a simple expression. As you're giving out advice, I'll do the same. Try decaf, Paul.

Will Mabon
88 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:36:58
Paul, I know where you're coming from and your good intentions. However, nowadays the word is actually listed in the dictionary in Jamie's context. It's not pretty but it's kind of viable.
James Marshall
89 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:43:24
Cancer - an evil or destructive practice or phenomenon that is hard to contain or eradicate: "gambling is a cancer sweeping across the nation"...

It's entirely acceptable and well-used parlance. Why anyone would find it shameful is beyond me. Language is nuanced and shouldn't be diluted. There's no shame in it at all.

Billy Bradshaw
90 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:46:54
Jamie Crowley,

No shame on you in my book, mate, keep posting as normal.

Sean Roe
91 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:50:27
I'm relying on this lad to persuade Lukaku to come back.
Duncan McDine
92 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:51:06
Let’s hope that we’ve got a good’n here. Our recent history is pretty awful when it comes to big money transfers (bar one or two), but I’ve got a good feeling about this lad.
Will Mabon
93 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:53:17
Sean, there's been a distinct lack of Rom-return speculation eh? Whether it would be of any use is irrelevant, he's now in a whole other money zone.
Sean Roe
94 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:55:56
We can dream, Will, we can dream.
Dale Self
95 Posted 09/08/2022 at 16:56:45
All we need is Gana to join in and we can convince some decent striker to sign. This is a decent group for a reset and there will be some that regain their confidence and figure out how to contribute.

Thelwell looks like he is developing a good reputation for transfers and that may open the door to moving a few eventually. For now, we are one striker from having a squad that could compete for top-half and, if they find some chemistry, who knows. This is Everton after all.

Mike Gaynes
96 Posted 09/08/2022 at 17:12:15
Jamie #90,

I certainly don't find your use of the word remotely shameful, but it does bother me when applied to a specific person, as in "he's a locker room cancer" -- because it's usually just a rumor and an extreme overstatement (unless it's Ryan Leaf or Latrell Sprewell).

I'm just touchy about the word, and I have requested before that people find another expression to use. Just me.

Tom Bowers
97 Posted 09/08/2022 at 17:12:20
The current wage bill must be astronomical given that very few have been moved out and those top earners who are unavailable. Surely some will be gone, if not now, then by January.

Getting new players doesn't always mean getting a better team but one hopes this time it will.

Jamie Crowley
98 Posted 09/08/2022 at 17:22:44

I appreciate your comment and understand your viewpoint. You obviously have every right to not even want to read the word.

I think the expression frankly isn't offensive in the least. If I were to contract that awful disease, malady or whatever the heck the correct medical term is, I'd not take offense to the saying. It's an expression, and I'd view it as having absolutely nothing to do with the malady itself. By using the expression, it's not as if you're wishing that situation upon someone!

It's also very applicable and analogous. Cancer infects and then spreads. This you know all too well. A poor teammate – and I'm sure we both have seen this on teams we've played for growing up and even into adult league stuff – can literally sow the seeds of negativity, and subsequently spread discontent through a team. Much the way cancer unfortunately spreads through the body after contraction.

More to be said that I will keep to myself and the societal trends of verbal policing. You're intelligent and can fill in the blanks – not that difficult. As you, someone I respect, has exceedingly politely pointed out they'd prefer individuals find another expression, I will try to do so moving forward. I can't say I'll forget to do so in the future, and would ask you follow suit with your post and request me to find a different phraseology.

I will say, I will not cut the phrase out of my vocabulary, only out of posts on TW per your preference for another phrase.


Jerome Shields
99 Posted 09/08/2022 at 17:25:38
Sam #28,

I think your assessment is close to the truth. There was some earlier speculation about him as an attacking midfielder; none of his stats or goal tally supports this.

Charles Brewer
100 Posted 09/08/2022 at 17:30:54
I suspect that "Locker room ebola" would be a better term for the kind of player that Jamie is talking about. Cancer isn't infectious, but the attitudes and problems which cause the decline of clubs like Everton and Manchester United very much seem to be.

Over the years, we have seen various poxy players turn the heads of Everton youngsters (Rooney, Calvert-Lewin) and others who just seem to have a terrible attitude (Lukaku) which is infectious and has a shocking effect on the club. I suspect that there are players whose attitude is not deliberately destructive, but whose general demeanour, approach and air of defeatism is destructive and, if there are enough of these, the atmosphere will become toxic.

Once they infect others, the others will themselves become vectors of infection. I wonder if this wasn't what has happened to Demarai Grey, Holgate and Godfrey.

Certainly it's useful having a term for players who may have individual talent, but cause the internal destruction of teams and clubs.

In many ways, I think Frank Lampard has recognised exactly this as the main problem at Goodison and is seeking to overwhelm the negativity by bringing in an almost complete replacement team with the emphasis on character rather than skill.

Jay Harris
101 Posted 09/08/2022 at 17:32:04
Very disappointed that Gana Gueye appears to be off. I wonder if it was either/or with Onana and we're going to see Frank's boy Billy Gilmour instead.

Either way, the focus on recruitment must now turn to goals.

Jamie, having met you and your lovely family I can honestly say there is not an ounce of malice in you and I for one do not take any offence at the use of the word, in fact if more people speak about it in whatever context then we have more chance of dealing with it.

Tom #100 having removed James, Sigurdsson, Tosun, Richarlison, and Digne from the wage bill, we have saved about £25M from the wage bill so there is a fair bit of wiggle room there and none of the new recruits is coming in at over £100k a week.

Keith Gleave
102 Posted 09/08/2022 at 17:34:12
Give him 3 games and everyone on here will be selling him off.
Dale Self
103 Posted 09/08/2022 at 17:44:47
Outrageous Keith! and probably true.
Brian Williams
104 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:02:18
Mike #99.

I'm just touchy about the word, and I have requested before that people find another expression to use. Just me.

Not just you mate. Me too to be honest. When I see it used out of context (shall we say), it makes me wince, sometimes more than others, and you know why, mate.

I wouldn't have a right go at someone for using it but like you may request 'em respectfully to use another term if possible. Touchy fuckers, us survivors, aren't we? :-)

Paul Birmingham
105 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:02:58
This is a good boost to the squad and with some luck, can see Everton get consistency and playing with style and flair.

Welcome to the Everton Family, Amadou, and the very best of luck and success.

Now for a striker!


Brian Williams
106 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:09:01
Going off track for a post, has anybody raised the phenomenon of the rnr with the site gods?

It seems to happen when you edit a post.

It's like a fucking diptheria on the site (picked a rare one but no doubt someone will pull me on it). :-)

Paul Birmingham
107 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:16:31
Scratch ditty for starters... lol:

Onana, that’s his name,

Onana plays the game,

Onana he’s insane,

He’s Everton, midfield master of the game...

Dale Self
108 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:19:07
Thanks for that, Brian, I thought that was some secret code crap.

Careful with the phrase 'pull'' by the way, some yanks read these.

Will Mabon
109 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:22:23
Brian, read the latest post in the Website Update thread - explained there.
Christy Ring
110 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:23:09
Delighted Onana has signed, a young talented player who has now progressed to the Belgium first team, will give us aggression and pace in midfield.

Read the rumours about Gueye, disappointed if he's looking at better alternatives before the window closes, especially as it seemed to be a done deal. Silva reluctantly allowed him to join PSG, even after signing an improved contract, wouldn't stand in his way, you'd think he'd remember loyalty?

I see Vlasic has gone to Torino on loan, to buy for £15M. Moyes signed him last year for £30M + add ons on a 5-year contract. So does anyone still think it was a mistake, selling him?

Jason Li
111 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:25:55
If Frank can mould Onana into the next Michael Essien, then we are in for a treat. Well done Frank on attracting one of Europe's finest young talents onboard.

Happy days ahead.

Will Mabon
112 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:28:59
Christy, Vlasic can certainly play, some of the time. I think the involvement of certain people in the background disrupts the situation. Remember that when he was here?
Colin Metcalfe
113 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:36:10
To the tune from Rihanna:

“O nana what’s his name,

O nana what’s his name … “

Yes? No? Okay, I’ll get my coat.

Brian Williams
114 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:51:40

Thanks Will, will do.

Alan McGuffog
115 Posted 09/08/2022 at 18:54:25

The consensus amongst the blue cognoscenti in the Black Lion on Welsh Row just now is that he's signing. Hmmmm, right... 🙄

Neil Copeland
116 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:12:11
Alan, the sound wisdom of the Black Lion pundits is good enough for me….

I may even make it there one night for a pint!

Brian Williams
117 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:13:27

Try this for size – to the tune of The Macarena.

He's six foot four, he's Amadou Onana,

He looks even bigger when he's playing next to Gana,

He loves the music of Bananarama.

Aaaaaamadou Onana.

Ah thangyouuu.

Bill Gienapp
118 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:17:08
I have a really good feeling about this kid. Of course, I tend to take an optimistic view of all our signings (please delete all my Moise Kean-related posts circa 2019), but the way he carries himself is extremely impressive.

Have yet to see anything about Gueye's return hitting a snag from a reputable source, but it would be very disappointing if true, since I thought bringing him and Onana in together was extremely shrewd.

As Christy mentioned, looks like West Ham is on the brink of unloading Vlasic after just one season. I always thought we cut bait on him too early, but doesn't seem like anyone should be losing sleep over it now.

Ian Bennett
119 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:17:54
Vlasic, Lookman, Deulofeu and Barkley all flattered to deceive. Fitness issues, over-hyped and believing they made it without actually delivering.

Good players but a good lesson for the likes of Gordon to stay grounded.

Neil Copeland
120 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:18:31
Brian, ha ha that’s quite good!

Gana could be our secret weapon, none off the opposition team will notice him hiding behind Onana until it’s too late.

Robert Williams
121 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:20:55
Gueye having second thoughts, no wonder if he reads these pages and recent comments about his 'preferences' or not.

It's a wonder Tawkowski decided to sign after some derogatory Americanism about his ears. Oh I nearly forgot, was Coady described as a dirty Red?

So let me join in the fun, stuff Vlasic and Lukaku as far up where the sun don't shine.

Neil Copeland
122 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:22:00
Ian, I was thinking something very similar. Onana seems well grounded but would be well advised to take note also.
Duncan McDine
123 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:22:06
Brian W - 107 - that’s a good one!
John Graham
124 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:24:03
Times are changing, hopefully our luck with injuries too.

Expect with this and possibly Gana it will be the end of the road for a few such as Gomes, Davies, Allan and maybe Gbamin, especially if we are also looking to give the likes of Mills and Warrington a route to the first team.

Not sure of his injury history but seems like the others we have got in are more robust and injury-free over the recent years.

Just hope we can now pull a decent striker out of the lucky bag and then put a few games together without any injuries.


Ed Prytherch
125 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:30:23
Mike 96, I too dislike the use of "cancer" to describe non-medical conditions. I wish posters would be a bit more thoughtful before they used it.
Bernard Dooley
126 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:37:46
Delighted with the Amadou Onana transfer and, as with all signings, we need to give this 20-year-old, 1.95-metre midfielder, time to settle in.

I seem to recall that when we signed another tall Belgian midfielder, the 1.94-metre Marouane Fellaini, who was 21 at the time, Moyes pleaded patience as we wouldn't see the best of him for 5 years.

Thus after 6 years we sold him to Man Utd and, if our new lad does well, you can visualise the big sharks moving in unless we are a Champions League team by then.

Rob Williamson
127 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:48:59
Going back to the use of the phrase ‘dressing room cancer’ and whether or not it’s offensive… (Yes I know it was a while back but I’ve only just read the thread).

As somebody who is currently undergoing treatment for cancer (of the prostate kind – old men’s design fault), I have to say that I didn’t find it the least offensive. Now, if Jamie had said, “like a dressing room Rob Williamson“ that would have been different!

Oh, and I think that Onana is a great buy and it’s good to see us following the trend of buying Irishmen - O’ nana, Myk O’Lenko.

Yeh, yeh I’m getting me coat!

Dale Self
128 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:53:08
Another angle on the locker room troubles: Anyone notice Stevie Shitey G being a bit smug dealing with an unhappy Tyrone Mings?

That didn't work out too well for Dean Smith. Would love to see El Slippo step in it by overestimating his influence when Mings expresses displeasure.

Neil Copeland
129 Posted 09/08/2022 at 19:57:10
Rob 129, you missed out O’ Anthony Gordon
Keith Harrison
130 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:01:14
New song (to the tune of Agadoo):-

A- Ma- Dou-dou-dou, not pineapple, Onana,

A- Ma- Dou-dou-dou, his dong's like a banana!

Ill get me coat before the purists launch!!

Julian Exshaw
131 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:01:19
Two good positive signings today. Just a striker needed now. Onana will presumably go straight into the team at the expense of Gray or McNeil I'd imagine. Coady is a cert to start to replace Mina. The drums of renewed hope are beginning to beat.
Keith Harrison
132 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:04:45
Julian. Two? (I am not counting the Danish lady) Gueye not confirmed yet, but fingers crossed.
Btw, the Daily Star shows a pic of Coady in his Everton kit as a youngster with Walter Smith, so his kopite background is blown away!!
Ian Edwards
135 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:14:33
Transfer business certainly looking up. Coady a brilliant signing. I don't know much about Onana. However, we need a forward badly.

Hopefully Gueye falls through as he's crap. And 3 years older and crap.

Keith Harrison
137 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:17:24
Ian, you obviously did not see Gueye in a more forward role for PSG the last 2 seasons. He was superb, and got a few goals.
Rob Williamson
138 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:17:35
Keith#131….. how could I have missed that? It must be the medication! Won’t happen again.
Robert Tressell
139 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:17:58
The old Patrick Vieira song, duly adapted: He's big, he's tall, he comes from Senegal and plays for Belgium...

Anyway, this is a Champions League quality player who now needs looking after. Not the finished article by any stretch – but the finished article could be absolutely exceptional.

Can't wait to see him play. Most exciting signing for years. Probably since we bought Richarlison.

Julian Exshaw
140 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:19:40
Rob @129 all the best with your cancer treatment!!
Keith Harrison
141 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:21:54
Apology accepted, Rob (140). Now dust down your old Black Lace Lp, and get in the groove baby!! Rob Halligan has promised to start singing it on the bus to Villa this week. I expect the Royalties to flood in!!
Keith Harrison
142 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:24:29
Rob W et al, good luck to all fighting that indiscriminate disease, we all know someone affected, unfortunately.
Joe McMahon
143 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:27:09
First of all, all the best Rob!

Secondly, I've just watched Amadou Onana's interview, and like Conor Coady I do think the fact that Frank Lampard is not only known in Europe but also well respected, is a huge bonus for Everton.

Christy Ring
144 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:28:10
Will#113 If I remember back, his dad had too much to say, didn't help much?
Keith Harrison
145 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:30:41
Christy (145),

Wasn't Vlasic's sister really vociferous at the time? I think she was an athlete of some description.

Colin Metcalfe
146 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:31:54
Brian #118,

That made me laugh, his name is tailor-made for the terraces.

Ian Edwards
147 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:35:12
Rob 128 Sorry to read you're poorly... hope you're fighting fit soon pal.
Robert Tressell
148 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:36:19
Keith # 146, Blanka Vlasic is a high jumper and totally gorgeous also.
Steve Mink
149 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:36:49
Keith (145) - Vlasic's sister: second-best female high jumper of all time.
Rob Williamson
150 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:37:30
Thanks for the good wishes guys. Treatment is going really well.

Now, enough! You’ll have me crying into the phone, and I’d rather save my tears (of both joy and sorrow) for this team of ours. But thanks again.

Neil Copeland
151 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:40:43
Rob, hope you are feeling better soon
Rob Dolby
152 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:43:21
Glad that we have signed a young prospect but why do we not pick these players up earlier.

Lille must be laughing all the way to the bank. What was it £6M 12 months ago turns into a possible £40M in 5 years.

I hope the lad gets up to speed quickly. Even if him and Gana are playing. where are the goals coming from?

Bill Watson
153 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:46:37
Julian #133,

I'd be very surprised if Onana started v Villa. I think he's more likely to be introduced quite gradually.

Good to see we're signing players with good fitness records and leadership qualities. Hopefully, we'll see the end of the side giving up when they go a goal down.

Bryan Houghton
154 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:53:51
i just watched (one of) Onana's youtube video's for the first time. (I don't tend to look at them until the ink has dried)

Amadou Onana turned into a monster in Lille!

I will say he is gonna give away a lot of fouls. He seems to love the left-footed slide tackle (he's predominantly right-footed – though clearly comfortable on both feet) which, once the more seasoned Premier League players take a look at how he operates (fast, strong and prepared to go to ground with a slide), will scream like they've been shot as soon as he goes near them.

I think we need to be prepared for a number of Spurs, Arsenal, Manchester Cty, and without doubt Liverpoo lplayers rolling around like they've been assassinated. And be ready to live with the inevitable yellows and reds from our unbiased officials whimpering over the welfare of the Sky 6 darlings.

He is an imposing figure, but he's raw (at 20, weren't we all) and they will exploit that. And he has Salah and Co to deal with in a matter of weeks. We need to be patient, and give him time to adapt.

Oliver Molloy
155 Posted 09/08/2022 at 20:55:14
From what I see on YouTube, he looks strong, quick and can pass the ball.

However, the Premier League is the toughest league there is and I think we all need to see him play games before proclaiming this young player the real deal. I hope so… but been there before – have we not!

We need goals, folks, that should now be the priority.

Si Cooper
156 Posted 09/08/2022 at 21:21:28
Really hope this lad is the all-round midfielder we’ve been lacking for so long. Liked the idea of Gana coming back as that duo seemed to give us many more options for combinations all of a sudden.
Best wishes to Rob W.
Michael Williams
157 Posted 09/08/2022 at 21:30:34
Rob @152,

You wrote: "Lille must be laughing all the way to the bank. What was it £6M 12 months ago turns into a possible £40M in 5 years. Why do we not pick up these players earlier."

Actually Lille bought Onana after he played in the Bundesliga 2 for Hamburger SV for $11.5M That would have been too much money for Everton to pay last year for a midfielder who scored 2 goals and had 0 assists in 25 Bundesliga 2 appearances (only 14 starts).

The answers to the questions we ask are usually out there. We only need find them.

Paul Birmingham
158 Posted 09/08/2022 at 21:32:55
Great to see a player seemingly want to come and play for Everton.

Lukaku, and Martinez have possibly pitched in their backing for him, via the Belgium squad, to recommend Everton.

Happy Days.

Paul Birmingham
159 Posted 09/08/2022 at 21:35:35
Best of luck and a full recovery Rob@127.
Bernie Quinn
160 Posted 09/08/2022 at 21:45:19
+Rob @ 127,

Just looked at the TW this morning after a nights sleep, so can I offer belated Best Wishes with your treatment? I am still awaiting results of medical tests, so feeling rather nervous.

The nrws of all these new signings is keeping me cheerful though!

Peter Warren
162 Posted 09/08/2022 at 21:59:06
Wish our players would stay fit, think we’d be okay then…
Jamie Crowley
163 Posted 09/08/2022 at 22:04:55
Bryan @ 154,

Thanks for the link! Dude's an absolute tacking machine!!! Good Lord, it's like 150 perfectly timed, crunching tackles. Love it. Seems we're getting a bit more nasty down the spine of the squad under Frank.

Denis Richardson
165 Posted 09/08/2022 at 22:14:19
So that’s 3 defenders and 2 midfielders in - half a new team. Now we need at least a striker. Hopefully Lampard still has enough goodwill at Chelsea to get Broja on a loan with an option to buy. If we can nab him I’d take him over DCL any day.

Some welcome new faces but they’ll take some time to settle. Until then need to eek out any points we can anyhow.

Still don’t know where the goals are coming from….

Brian Hennessy
166 Posted 09/08/2022 at 22:21:56
Surely the song has to be Paul Simon.

Onana, Oh-Na na na, he's got Diamonds on the soles of he shoes

Christy Ring
167 Posted 09/08/2022 at 22:23:07
Rob #127, hope you're on the mend, best wishes.

Keith #145, Not sure about Vlasic's sister, but his father was very outspoken during his time here, probably ran in the family.

Mike Gaynes
168 Posted 09/08/2022 at 22:29:12
Jamie and Brian, thanks for your thoughtful comments. Rob Williamson, you've got some TWers in your corner for your fight. All the best. And Keith old friend, great to see you posting. I have missed your oft-warped wit here. I was just mentioning that to the wife the other day as we were polishing your silverware. It still looks great.
Mike Gaynes
169 Posted 09/08/2022 at 22:36:51
Bryan #154, that's the scouting report on the kid, that he gives a lot of fouls and takes some yellows. But he's also looks lightning quick for a man his size, and his legs are as long as lampposts, so good luck keeping the ball when he's around.

Where he is raw, according to the scouting reports again, is in the attack. The one I read described his passing as "recurrently disappointing", which implies a whole lot of work to do. That's why I strongly doubt he will start right away, although he might certainly see minutes off the bench when we're defending a lead.

Geoff Lambert
170 Posted 09/08/2022 at 22:47:22
Bryan #154,

Nothing wrong with any of them tackles, mate, ball won clean every time. VAR my arse!

Jerome Shields
171 Posted 09/08/2022 at 22:54:40
Gone very quiet regarding Gueye.
Brendan McLaughlin
173 Posted 09/08/2022 at 23:04:55
Jerome #171,

There were a few clickbait sites earlier today suggesting it wasn't going to happen.

Kieran Kinsella
174 Posted 09/08/2022 at 23:10:58

Conflicting rumors that he’s still negotiating a PSG payoff or that he’s realized there may be other options beyond Everton so is hiding his time

Rob Williamson
175 Posted 09/08/2022 at 23:16:54
Yet again, many thanks for your kind comments. Mike #158 - it does feel good to have the power of ToffeeWeb behind me and Bernie#160, best of luck with your own tests mate.
I have to say that during the second half of that Palace game last season I did count myself lucky that I’ve only got cancer and not a heart problem! Thanks again guys. Keep the faith and goodnight.
Signed Rabid Dog (see Jamie#164)
Colin Glassar
176 Posted 09/08/2022 at 23:19:48
Probably announced tomorrow, Jerome.

They are announcing a new player each day. Coady yesterday, Onana today. Gana tomorrow. The Coventry kid on Thursday and, probably, Benzema by Friday.

Kieran Kinsella
177 Posted 09/08/2022 at 23:29:03

No Friday for old times sake Bill we get a deal. Expect Rodwell & Victor on player coach deals

Mike Gaynes
178 Posted 09/08/2022 at 23:36:20
Kieran and Colin, maybe a certain South American midfielder.
David West
179 Posted 09/08/2022 at 23:36:49
I too watched the YouTube clips of Onana. I know you could make Gomes look like Zidane with some decent editing, but I was impressed. Taking his age into account he looks the real deal.

All the impatient posters now seeing progress, seeing that kev and Frank are not sitting on their arses. Broadhead going on loan is the biggest sign they are confident of getting strikers in.

A couple would be nice.

Business done so far makes me excited for the next couple of windows now as the players coming seem to be targeted for exactly what's needed in the short term but with an eye to the mid-long term too.

It's weird to say but it looks like we have a cohesive plan to make positive improvements without mortgaging the family silver.

Onwards & Upwards

Colin Glassar
180 Posted 09/08/2022 at 23:42:47
Guys, Bill will fix it. Watch this space.
Laurie Hartley
181 Posted 09/08/2022 at 00:05:28
I watched his interview on the official site - this lad is super confident. 6’5” mobile midfielder - yay!
Dupont Koo
182 Posted 09/08/2022 at 00:10:55
Exciting signing!

IMHO, his floor as a player is Fellaini 2.0 while his ceiling could be peak Patrick Vieira, a critical spinal player that can expedite the rebuilding of the team.

Now, once we have secured Gana, if we can find new homes for Gomes, Davies & Allan before the end of the month, then we shall have great relief on salaries that can be used on somebody else (a striker perhaps?).

Kristian Boyce
183 Posted 10/08/2022 at 00:12:10
As others had said about his English, it's amazing. If you were to tell me that this kid moved from Senegal to London, instead of going to Belgium, I'd believe you. While he sounds like a Londoner right now, give him a few months and he'll have a strong Scouse accent.
Kieran Kinsella
184 Posted 10/08/2022 at 00:36:34

Maybe Riquelme as ambassador of Narnia for Everton or some other fantasy recruiting ground?

Kieran Kinsella
185 Posted 10/08/2022 at 00:41:17

It is a bit embarrassing as an Englishman who went to a pretty good school and a top 20 college that I can basically exchange greetings and order food in French and a lot of my mates are well behind me. Whereas our counterparts overseas, Lukaku for example, are proficient in half a dozen languages.

Is it just that we are lazy and assume everyone else speaks English? Or are “Johnny Foreigner” types maybe … smarter than us?

Bill Watson
186 Posted 10/08/2022 at 01:12:32
Keiran #185,

I can get by in German but can't speak French.

Some years ago I was in a French village shop with a relative who was trying to ask the girl on the till if they stocked something.

I remarked that the assistant obviously couldn't understand English whereupon my relative replied, "Wouldn't you'd think they'd learn".

Alan McGuffog
187 Posted 10/08/2022 at 02:09:14
I'm fond of Basil Fawlty's approach to languages...

"Ohhh, you're German. I'm sorry, I thought there was something wrong with you."

Kieran Kinsella
188 Posted 10/08/2022 at 03:04:21

Lol – sounds only too typical. The way I see it we were cavemen and the Romans then the French civilized us. So yeah let’s rely on our betters to learn our mongrel tongue.

Lester Yip
189 Posted 10/08/2022 at 03:53:42
The idea of getting Gana back might be to show this kid how to win the ball without going to ground. Anyway, very excited by this signing.
Jerome Shields
190 Posted 10/08/2022 at 04:13:54
Brendan #173,

I remember on an earlier thread regarding his transfer, someone who had read a Senegalese Newspaper stating that Gueye wanted to stay at PSG and was not interested in a move to Everton. But enormous hype built around his impending transfer.

The problem now is that medicals at Finch Farm and at PSG have now come and gone. I actually thought that Onana was an understudy to Gueye, but now we are being told he is the real thing, with even scoring potiential, which there is no proof off. Sam earlier imo gives a realistic assessment of him. More Kean than Gueye.

I will be very disappointed if Gueye's transfer proves false.

Danny O’Neill
191 Posted 10/08/2022 at 06:17:04
Well, he certainly speaks with confidence about his footballing abilities. Reading the reviews on him, and not just Everton ones, it looks like he could potentially be a giant of a player. No pun intended.

Interesting to see him in another interview talk about Nkounkou personally influencing his decision to go to Everton.

Finally, we look to be building a solid spine. I won't say 'nasty'; Frank Lampard wasn't that type of player. But he played in a solid team with ability. I would use the words 'commitment' and 'desire'.

Slowly but surely, the depth we've been craving seems to be being put in place. None of this first 11 with an okay 14 and little behind it. That's not the modern game. You need depth and better quality in a larger squad.

On the language thing, yes, stereotypically when it comes to languages, we English speakers are lazy. Because generally, we can be.

I used to speak German to a good standard and can still get by with having decent conversations about football and politics. But it has deteriorated as I don't use it as much. I still read well, can write okay and watch the news. But speaking goes if you don't practice in my experience.

A high percentage of the Dutch speakers of Belgium and Netherlands speak great English. The Germans are okay depending on the region – still a lot of areas with the legacy of the British and US militaries being there for the best part of 60 years after World War 2.

The Scandics are great. But in these countries, they start English at 6 years old. I don't know what it's like now but it was the 3rd year (old speak) of senior school before we chose between German, French or Spanish?? By that point, they are practically fluent in English. Whereas we were just starting the basics.

Anyway, pleased to have him with us from what I read. And he chose Everton; a good sign. But like others have said, remember he's 20 years old and still developing. So be patient with him.

And with the other players regardless of age and experience. Sometimes adding lots of new players at once can be initially disruptive until they gel and understand each other.

Anyway. Welkom, Wilkommen and Bienvenue a Everton, young man. Please introduce yourself to Henderson in a few weeks time.

Jim Lloyd
193 Posted 10/08/2022 at 06:45:26
Kieran (186),

I think the Romans civilised a few chieftains; the rest were left alone or whizzed off to Rome or the galleys, mines, farms etc as slaves; or used as Gladiators if hard enough.

As for the French, they took most of the common land and turned it into great estates or royal forests. They certainly didn't educate the serfs or freemen... just took their land and many of their freedoms, and first dibs at their daughters!

As for now, I think the elite still get the best chance at Universities; and many kids are given an education that keeps them happy doing the mundane jobs in Mcdonald's, or supermarkets etc.

There's obviously a decent proportion who get a decent education; both at home and at school; the rest; it's the comps and get what jobs they can but don't get educated as to who really pulls the strings in the western world... y'know; they meet at Davos each year.

As for the question mark over Gana Gueye, I read somewhere, that the problem was getting a visa; but who knows. He's a top midfielder, by all accounts; and if he wants to come and that problem is solved, then I'd be made up; but if he's waiting for a better offer, then I hope we wish him good luck; and find players who want to come to EFC.

We've still got 3 weeks, so we've got time to look for alternatives; and if we've learnt anything from our past mistakes, we won't be held to ransom by any player, no matter how good he is, especially when he's 33.

Jerome Shields
195 Posted 10/08/2022 at 08:07:29
Jim #193,

If you were a 33-year-old player transferred to a top Club which added to your game and had kept you fit to play at the highest level. Would you want to go back to a Club that you know has questions over the ability of Medical Services, training and attitude in the dressing room? None of which have changed.

If Gueye does not arrive imo this would be the reason rather than terms, if he wants to continue to play at the highest level consistently.

Tony Everan
196 Posted 10/08/2022 at 08:09:40
With regards Gueye what’s going on? It seemed done and dusted.

I read Forest offered him a 3-year deal which he rejected as he doesn’t want to go there. So perhaps the sticking point is we’ve offered 2 years and he is adamant he wants 3 years?

Other reports saying it’s about the amount of severance money from PSG.

Brian Murray
197 Posted 10/08/2022 at 08:18:33
As for Nkounkou, unless Ashley Cole really takes him under his wing and teaches him awareness of defending, then he can still be potent with his pace further up. Failing that, if he’s a lost cause at this level, so be it.

No coincidence our two full-back / wingbacks are revelling in the coaching they are getting. As for Gueye, if it’s an either/or scenario, we need at least one striker so let him stay where he is, not wanted but made for life, like most of our headaches we can’t get rid of.

Tony Abrahams
198 Posted 10/08/2022 at 08:19:23
I left school without a qualification Danny, and although this is something that has never bothered me, I really do kick myself, for never learning another language, especially because it was well within my capabilities, meaning I was a really foolish teenager.

I know my 8-year-old kids learn a little bit of Spanish in school, so things are getting a little bit better, but they had sports day the other week, and I don’t think anything has changed since I was a little kid. If it’s not broke, don’t try and fix it maybe? No wonder I sometimes think there are so many lazy people in society!

Jerome Shields
199 Posted 10/08/2022 at 08:28:22
Apparently it has now been reported that Gueye has agreed a deal with Everton. Interesting to see the details of the deal if this is correct.
Dom Kearney
200 Posted 10/08/2022 at 08:40:12
Danny, in 2005 the government made languages optional at GCSE and compulsory at KS2 (age 7-11). I became a French teacher the same year. The experience primary pupils get of languages is extremely varied. Additionally, languages are seen as a difficult GCSE, so there has been a gradual decline in the uptake of them.

With the introduction of EBacc (an arbitrary range of subjects including passes in English, Maths, a science, a language and a humanity eg, History, Geography or RE), a number of schools make languages compulsory to most but the numbers are still low nationally.

A-Level uptake is even worse – many schools don’t offer them, or have to collaborate with other local schools to offer classes. So, the picture isn’t great but I love my job! Oh, and delighted with our signings – just need a striker or two to make this a very good window!

James Marshall
201 Posted 10/08/2022 at 08:59:20
Gana posted 3 'fire' emojis on the Everton Instagram page reacting to the Onana signing. Make of that what you will.

I don't use social media but players seem to use it to express their feelings & intentions these days so there might be something in it.

Christopher Timmins
202 Posted 10/08/2022 at 09:10:29
Danny, let's hope he realizes his potential and who stays fit during his time with us.

If we can get one more in the door before the window shuts then it has to be a striker and one of sufficient quality that he is not just a back-up to Calvert-Lewin but a viable alternative.

Tony Abrahams
203 Posted 10/08/2022 at 09:18:58
We are all battling an illness called Everton, Chris, but I suppose they keep us going really, and especially the people fighting real illness, but maybe one day in the future, Frank Lampard is going to dance around the corner flag, for us boys in blue! I read that another reason Onana wanted to play for Everton, was because he knew Gueye was coming back?
Brian Harrison
205 Posted 10/08/2022 at 09:41:04
I think what is blindingly obvious is that this transfer window is being led by Lampard and Thelwell, and it's just a pity we have had to wait till a lot of the money had been wasted before letting the football people do their jobs.

No interference from Moshiri via his agent friends, just proper football decisions being taken by the manager and his DoF who also seem to be on the same page which is the way it should be.

I have been critical of Lampard and Thelwell for not bringing in an attacker before now, but apart from that if they can get the Gueye deal over the line and bring in a striker I think it will have been a very good window. Moshiri did say judge us at the end of the window not in the middle of it, and it looks like being a very good window.

Lampard spoke at the end of last season of building a more robust squad and that's exactly what they are doing. Bringing in Coady, a captain of Wolves and a current England player, as well as Tarkowski who has already given us glimpses of his ability, and both bought for no transfer fee.

I think if all football decisions are left to Lampard and Thelwell, then I believe the club will be on a sounder footing than it's been for quite some time.

Finally, I don't know if it's been mentioned on any threads but a huge pat on the back for Ashley Cole who has now taken over from Paul Clement our dead ball plays both for and against. Not so long back, if a team had come to Goodison and had about 16 corners, we would have conceded at least twice, but on Saturday they posed little or no threat.

Jerome Shields
206 Posted 10/08/2022 at 10:12:14
Dom #200,

Three weeks left and I'm hoping regarding strikers also.

My daughter has a joint honours degree, part of which is French, she has a teaching qualification with a French specialism. She teaches in Australia, but avoids French. In her Erasmus Year, she taught in a French Secondary School.

The Je Suis Charlie movement took off. She was quite fluid in French, but was appalled by the level of right-wing racists on Facebook and in conversations. I am trying to get her to attend French Conversation classes at the moment.

Like Tony, I left school without a foreign language. I had to give up French because the teacher was a political opponent of my father and singled me out for special treatment.

I was playing for the same team as him. When he was surrounded by other players, I stuck my boot in him. He thought it was an opposition player and got a hiding for his mistake. The rough-looking opposition player came over to me at the end of the game and said, 'Hey boy'.

Tony Abrahams
207 Posted 10/08/2022 at 10:38:54
At least you’ve got an excuse, Jerome. I actually took a French exam a couple of months before my 14th birthday and got a mark of 8%. This wasn’t because I was poor at the language, it was because I was quite good at it, and chose to get the answers wrong, because of a stupid "Who wants to learn French?" attitude.

I was in France twice during the 1998 World Cup, and because most of my time was spent in pubs, talking shite on the ale, I was amazed at how much I could converse with the locals, and made me badly regret wasting so much of my education, when in school.

Too many kids waste their education, and it’s why I think that every top football academy in the country needs to spend more time educating their younger players.

We do a lot of good things in this country, but like Everton on Saturday, we could do so much better with a little bit of thought and more care!

Pete Neilson
208 Posted 10/08/2022 at 10:48:50
A bit of background to the structure of the recent deals from iNews this morning. (Warning, Kenwright praise alert.)

"There is particular satisfaction at Goodison Park at the way the club has been able to box clever in spite of financial fair play restrictions.

One of the conditions of the deal that took Richarlison to Tottenham was that Spurs paid the £50m fee up front, giving Everton room to re-invest in their squad.

They have supplemented this by working on loan deals and transfers that have been structured in the club’s favour.

The deal for Onana involves a small down payment and the rest of the £33m is structured to be paid over five years. Everton were able to gazump West Ham, who believed they had agreed a deal for the Lille man last week.

Amadou Onana has signed for Everton in a move that the club consider is a real coup. Similarly, the Coady deal was initially proposed as a permanent transfer but is instead a loan switch with an option to convert it into a permanent deal at the end of the season, which again affords the club room to manoeuvre in the transfer window.

Director of football Kevin Thelwell paid tribute to chairman Bill Kenwright’s contribution to the deal and I understand he has taken a more front-line role in negotiations, pushing hard to extract good value. While the Richarlison fee was widely regarded as a decent return on the Brazilian, he had been pushing for closer to a £90m valuation."

Tony Abrahams
209 Posted 10/08/2022 at 11:02:57
Maybe it’s taken the thought of losing Moshiri (let’s face it, he brought him in, and will be finished once he sells) that’s made Bill Kenwright start treating the club's money in a much more prudent way?

I’m aware it’s the only way the club can currently operate, but I’m also sure that this is the proper way to run a football club!

Rob Dolby
210 Posted 10/08/2022 at 11:06:14
Michael @157,

You wrote "The answers to the questions we ask are usually out there. We only need find them."

I did find a kind of answer by asking the question.

Dom Kearney
211 Posted 10/08/2022 at 11:25:00
Jerome and Tony - I think languages are the biggest regret most people have regarding their education.

Sorry to hear about your daughter’s experience, Jerome - funny story after though. I was an assistant in a lycée in France as part of my French degree, taken at Liverpool University. Made some Moroccan friends at the residence I was at.

Learnt some expressions which still stand me in good stead to this day. Was very handy getting regular discounted or free kebabs and pizzas on Lawrence Road, Wavertree, in my final year!

Knowing some expressions and making an effort is appreciated wherever one goes, I find.

Jerome Shields
212 Posted 10/08/2022 at 12:16:41
Justine did make friends as well, but the only French speaker is an English girl, a student at the school, whose parents upped and went to France. She didn't like France, but now works for a Movie Company in Montreal.

As you say a lot of people have regrets regarding speaking a foreign language and wish the French League was better than it is, outside the top teams, as can be seen in the hopes of this thread.

Brian Murray
213 Posted 10/08/2022 at 12:26:16
This clinging to the hope of Broja smacks of Man Utd chasing the Dutch fella. We did it with Sigurdsson – let’s hope we have learned our lesson.
Sam Hoare
214 Posted 10/08/2022 at 12:47:03
By most accounts, Gueye will sign in next few days for a fee around £8M (possibly including bonuses) but the hold up is him negotiating severance bonus with PSG. Most people think he’ll be signed in time for Aston Villa.

And then it will be one or two forwards coming. Supposed ITKs claim the players we are talking with include Gyokeres, Broja, Batshuayi, Terrier, Boadu, Doku and Ajorque.

I would love Terrier, Broja or Doku but all 3 would be expensive. Quite like Ajorque as a hard-working option and Che Adams and Moussa Dembele are both available on the cheap and could probably do a job.

I’d also have Hudson-Odoi on loan in a shot as he beats players for fun. If we got him on loan and Broja on a permanent I’d be pretty excited.

Colin Glassar
215 Posted 10/08/2022 at 12:48:27
I’d add Zouma to that, Brian. Chelsea strung us along until it was too late. Hope it doesn’t happen again.

Bobby Two Shoes said Onana is a “unique player”. He didn’t say phenomenal but unique. That’ll do for me.

Dave Abrahams
216 Posted 10/08/2022 at 12:58:03
Pete (208),

Kenwright negotiated the Dele Alli deal with Spurs, let’s see how that works out.

And if he was pushing for £90M for the Richarlison dea,l he would have been talking to himself… although he did well getting £50M for him.

Chris Badley
217 Posted 10/08/2022 at 13:09:11
Anyone heard him speak on EvertonTV? Sounds years beyond his age. And speaks perfect English.

May not count for much on the pitch but sounds like one hell of an impressive guy. Got a good feeling about him.

Jim Lloyd
218 Posted 10/08/2022 at 13:31:43
Hello Jerome (206),

I take your point; but I said that if he wants to come. Now form what the papers are telling us (well, they tell us all kinds for this clikbait thing!) he's a fit, able top class player and I'd love to see him back with us.

However, if he's delaying things looking for another club to come in, and not the visa delaying things, I'd back the club if they said "Thanks very much but, no thanks!" I'll say that, if I was a 33-year-old, top-class player, and Everton's manager and DoF talked to me, I'd come.

As for our Adamau, I've just been listening to Roberto Martinez talk about him. If we get 2 years with Gana in our engine room, I'll be chuffed to bits! Any more and that's a massive bonus. Amadau will learn form, him and I think we'll have the midfield we've been crying out for, for years,

Pete (208),

Thanks for that good informative post: and Tony (209) I agree with your view of Kenwright's miraculous conversion to something approaching the "sensible"!

Will Mabon
219 Posted 10/08/2022 at 13:32:36
Colin - having joined Everton, Onana is now officially in "an incredible moment".
Brian Murray
220 Posted 10/08/2022 at 13:35:51
The club (not coaching and DoF) set such a low bar for themselves that we are applauding them for getting things right like a normal set-up.

Give it time...

Jim Lloyd
221 Posted 10/08/2022 at 13:43:12
Brian, :) Maybe the penny's dropped.

Well, in our case half a billion smackaroos!

Derek Wadeson
222 Posted 10/08/2022 at 14:07:38
Brian @220,

Your comment: "Give it time."

Sounds like you will take great delight if the club get the present set-up wrong with their appointments.

224 Posted 10/08/2022 at 14:28:57
Jim #218,

Onana learning for Gana would be what most of us are hoping for. Everton appear to be negotiating better than before and appear to be achieving their objectives, but they still have to overcome reticence regarding Everton being a career destination.

Brian Murray
225 Posted 10/08/2022 at 14:36:05

No because I’m an Evertonian, not a masochist – although the lines sometimes become blurred between the two.

Tony Abrahams
228 Posted 10/08/2022 at 14:44:11
I thought Brian excluded Lampard and Thelwell, Derek.
Tony Dunn
229 Posted 10/08/2022 at 14:52:41
Slight backtrack and slightly un-Everton-ish, I speak fairly okay French and Spanish, which to be fair I did learn in St Eddie's, next to Bellefield. I also did Latin for 2 years, which was very useful, not just at mass (ho ho) but also in seeing how European languages are very similar.

I worked in Germany in the early '80s and was thrown in the deep end of learning German, when by virtue of being a decent footballer, I was promoted to being a "neutral" referee in a match.

I soon learnt 'arschloch', 'ecky', 'frei stoss' and all the other German, slang and Bayerisch phrases I needed. I spent long parts of the next 3 years in Germany and still speak it quite well but mostly this is due to daily immersion in the language and a willingness and necessity to learn. Not every school child has or indeed wants this.

We also have to deal with the very English attitude of not needing to speak foreign languages and a "servants and masters" approach from the upper classes to anyone wanting to better themselves.

BTW, my German came in very useful in '84 in Bratislava, where I was the official food and drinks translator for our group during our time there and in Vienna. Although when I ordered "Zehn bier bitte" in a Czech bar, one of the lads said "Can I have lager, I don't drink bitter..."

Brian Murray
231 Posted 10/08/2022 at 15:21:59
As for the English Language, in my experience, the hardest and longest sentence is "I do."
Peter Neilson
234 Posted 10/08/2022 at 16:27:02
Dave (216),

I’ve heard a couple of times that the Dele transfer fee was written off as part of the Richarlison deal. This was in addition to the £50M. As ever with such rumours, no idea if it’s true.

Jay Harris
235 Posted 10/08/2022 at 16:36:40
Kevin Thelwell is hardly gonna say "Kenwright's a nuisance and is holding up all the deals."

Nonetheless, I am very pleased at the business we have been able to do with pocket money.

Let's just hope we get Gueye over the line for Villa and get the best striker we can asap.

Jim Lloyd
239 Posted 10/08/2022 at 17:17:18
Derek (222),

I take the same standpoint. We've got a long road ahead and on top of that, we've got players who are not good enough; but we can't get shut yet. We do appear to be negotiating better than before. As I think Kenwright has been told to make every penny count... or else!

I also think we've got a really good team in Frank and Kevin, who are attracting players to us and attracting them by their vision (not quite Golden yet, but give it time!)

If we have some smattering of good luck for a change, then I see us climbing away from where we are. In a couple of years, I think we'll be challenging regularly for the top eight; and possibly higher.

Jim Lloyd
243 Posted 10/08/2022 at 18:20:42
Jerome, 224 (Confusing, but I get it now)

Yes, I totally agree with players' reticence. But I think that will come as we begin to see better football at Goodison, combined with the pulling power of Frank and Kevin. And, of course, how much money we have available for both transfers; and also wages.

Still, we are where we are and I think we have got and will continue to get players who want to come here, within our budget.

Keith Harrison
245 Posted 10/08/2022 at 19:05:10
Slightly perturbing today to read that Onana wanted West Ham, but had no guarantees, so he came to us. Never mind, he's here now, and making the right noises. I'm a lot more optimistic than last year, especially if we can start moving some dead wood on. Davies and Gomes would be a start.
Ray Roche
246 Posted 10/08/2022 at 20:06:29
Keith, it's always possible that Onana ‘wanted' West Ham until Everton made a play for him.

As I understand it, Everton were a bit late to the party so he's not going to sing our praises if we're not, at that time, interested.

Ted Donnelly
248 Posted 10/08/2022 at 20:31:25
I was just thinking whether anyone can see a bit of building going on? Or is it just me... two centre-backs worthy of the name... two okay fullbacks... an aggressive midfielder with hopefully Gueye to come.

The emphasis seems to be not to concede, which will do for me. Now to get in a goalscorer.

Danny O’Neill
249 Posted 11/08/2022 at 03:38:56
Building on and off the pitch, Ted.

Read Paul Traill's last match report.

John Keating
250 Posted 11/08/2022 at 06:11:11
Short term, until January, maybe even the full season, we couldn't do any worse than signing Juan Mata.

The guys got more skill at 34 or whatever than all our midfield put together.

Michael Lynch
253 Posted 11/08/2022 at 09:34:03
I'm not too surprised to read that Onana was seen by Moyes as heir to Declan Rice, but he refused to guarantee him a starting place. It did seem strange that he chose us over them, and that was the only reason I could come up with.

Which is why you have to ignore all those positive and gushing interviews on the OS. Why did Onana sign for us? Was it really because Everton are a big, big club, Lampard was a top player, and watching the fans against Crystal Palace gave him goosebumps? No, it was because he wanted to play every week and get into the Belgium World Cup squad.

Why did Coady sign for us? He gave pretty much the same reasons as Onana in his interview, but of course it was really because – just like him – he was guaranteed a start every week so he could fight for a World Cup place.

Those interviews are a joke. The truth is always blindingly obvious.

John Keating
255 Posted 11/08/2022 at 11:30:53
I agree, Brian, I would never look at someone like Mata as a long-term deal.

However, someone like him, for half or even a full season, would give us a bit of a breathing space to get a more long-term target in, and possibly help us with FFP.

Can you also see the benefit to the youngsters having someone with his skill around Finch Farm?

James Marshall
256 Posted 11/08/2022 at 12:49:45
Michael @253,

Are you suggesting we shouldn't believe everything we see on the Internet!? Or that news outlets and football clubs like to bend the truth!?

I'm glad I'm sitting down.

Robert Workman
257 Posted 11/08/2022 at 12:56:21
If we are looking for a song for Onana, we could try Paul Simon's 'Diamonds on the Soles of her Shoes'.

Okay, the chorus does sound more like "Danananana" than "Onananana", but I really think it would work.

"Onana na na, he's got diamonds on the soles of his boots!"

Well he will cost over £30million. That is a lot of diamonds!

Andrew Keatley
258 Posted 11/08/2022 at 13:18:30
Michael (253),

I think that's an unfairly solitary reading of the situation. There are lots of motivating (and demotivating) factors for footballers signing for new clubs.

The fact that Coady and Onana will undoubtedly be wanting to be playing first-team football in order to get selected for their respective national squads for the World Cup is fair enough. But the football club, the city, the league, the fans, the manager, the other players, the contract terms, the bonuses, the perks, and any number of other factors are all going to be part of the equation – and no player is guaranteed a starting spot as per their contract. Football just does not work that way.

A player can be told by the manager that they are in pole position to play, but ultimately performances on the pitch and in training will always dictate who starts games of football – not a verbal promise prior to signing a contract.

Peter Moore
259 Posted 11/08/2022 at 13:47:15
We need to update our vibe and, if he is the mutt's nuts, we can make him Captain, then replace Z-Cars playing as the lads run out to Oh-NaNa by K.A.R.D. It's 2022 after all.

And I should stop drinking early in the day. Would be interesting though! Full blast, would be immense!!! 😁

Alan McGuffog
260 Posted 11/08/2022 at 14:27:52
Absolutely nowt wrong with a player having "preferences". I'm sure the delights of the capital city outweigh long autumn evenings on County Road. Doesn't mean he won't give his all for us.

I'm meeting up in my local for a few cold ones later. To be honest, I'd prefer to be tucked up with Kylie Minogue but we can't agree on a time and date. I'm sure I'll enjoy myself anyway.

Lloyd Brodrick
264 Posted 12/08/2022 at 01:33:33
How about a song to the tune of Eddy Grants, Gimme hope Jo'anna?

Gimme hope O'nana
Gimme hope O'nana
Hope O'nana
Fore the season come!

Gimme luck O'nana
Win a cup O'nana
Win it fore the seasons done.

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