Reports suggest Gueye move under threat of collapse

19/08/2022 37comments  |  Jump to last

Idrissa Gueye looked as though he would finally an Everton player once again this week but reports now suggest that negotiations with Paris Saint-Germain have been called off.

Protracted negotiations over a two-year contract appeared to have been concluded more than two weeks ago but a reported wrangle between the French club and the player over a severance package held the transfer up.

Now it appears as though PSG have changed tack and are seeking a fee for Gueye rather than simply terminating his contract with less than 12 months of it to run.

With the transfer deadline looming and more than four weeks having passed since a deal appeared to have been struck, Everton are said by L'Equipe in France to have stopped talks with PSG, a sign, perhaps, that they will move on to other targets or a move designed to force the Parisiens' hands if the midfielder is, indeed, surplus to Christiophe Gaultier's requirements. 

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Gueye has agreed personal terms with his former club and has already undertaken the first part of a medical.


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Dale Self
1 Posted 19/08/2022 at 18:28:32
So we've stopped talking to PSG about Gueye. We've agreed terms with him but PSG is getting weird.

I guess they've got the money to mess about but it certainly seemed that they needed him off their books.

Pat Kelly
2 Posted 19/08/2022 at 19:38:52
How old will he be before he signs for us?
Martin Reppion
3 Posted 19/08/2022 at 19:44:27
File under 'would have been good, but move on.'

If, as it appears, the club have called PSG's bluff then that shows a sign of bottle previously lacking in transfer dealings.

If the player or his agent now force their hand we can go back to the table. But I see this as progress.

Bobby Mallon
4 Posted 19/08/2022 at 19:46:09
Well done, EFC, move on.
Colin Glassar
5 Posted 19/08/2022 at 19:50:39
I'd have liked Gana to have returned but we shouldn't be held to ransom by anyone.

I still think we'll get him though.

Dale Self
6 Posted 19/08/2022 at 19:51:53
Thelwell is using the fuck right off card nicely. We'll be back on track before long if Frank hangs in there.

Everyone can see this is PSG fucking with us because they think they're big enough to get away with it.

Kieran Kinsella
7 Posted 19/08/2022 at 19:56:42
Seems like both parties want their cake and to eat it. Gueye wants to leave but wants them to pay the rest of his contract. PSG want him to leave but don't want to pay him and want us to pay a largeish fee. Neither realized we don't have any cake. We don't even have digestive biscuits to offer.
Mark Frere
8 Posted 19/08/2022 at 20:01:25
According to Alan Myers the deal is all but done:

Everton reportedly finalise deal for Idrissa Gueye

Paul Jones
9 Posted 19/08/2022 at 20:07:18
I'm not so sure Kieran.

We may be short of digestives, but we've got a few (Hob)knob(heads) in the boardroom.

Facing our 3rd game of the season and still nobody on the books who vaguely recognises that we can put the ball between the goalposts.

Jack Convery
10 Posted 19/08/2022 at 20:15:41
We could have had Cheikhou Kouyate, in on a free a month ago. Same age, knows the EPL and plays alongside Gueye at international level. Viera wanted him to sign a new contract at Palace but he wanted out. Now at Forest!

No doubt giving Gueye his severance cheque, PSG now want us to pay for him, to get their money back !! Cheeky sods.

Joe McMahon
11 Posted 19/08/2022 at 20:16:43
Pat, he'll be 50.
Soren Moyer
12 Posted 19/08/2022 at 20:20:40
Barry Rathbone
13 Posted 19/08/2022 at 21:04:20
Good news if true.

He wasn't all that first time around and a reprise of his bemusement at opponents running past to plunder our porous defence shouldn't be part of Frank's game plan.

We need to stop recruiting end-of-career players because, as mentioned elsewhere, we're not a rehab centre, neither should we be a retirement home.

Of course the news actually means he's at Finch Farm right now signed up and singing Karaoke with Bill...

Mark Ryan
14 Posted 19/08/2022 at 21:23:09
Another one that got away...
Jerome Shields
15 Posted 19/08/2022 at 21:24:28
Right at the start of this saga, a poster informed us that it was reported in a Senegalese newspaper that Gueye wanted the stay at PSG and was not interested in joining Everton. The report has proved correct.
Tony Everan
16 Posted 19/08/2022 at 22:01:41
I'd be happy if we get the deal done.

We should seriously consider James Garner too... Man Utd want £14M – do they do "buy now, pay later" deals?

The midfield three of Gana, Garner, Onana is almost melodic.

Mark Ryan
17 Posted 19/08/2022 at 22:14:09
Tony @ 16, their names could almost could be sung to the tune of La Bamba!
Bill Gienapp
18 Posted 19/08/2022 at 22:25:06
Pretty outrageous, if true. PSG are one of the wealthiest clubs in the world, they want Gueye gone, and they pull this nickel and dime shit when the deal's at the finish line? Fuck them.
Steve Shave
19 Posted 19/08/2022 at 22:27:42
Tony 16, yes, I would like Garner too, him and Onana together has a lot of potential.

£15M for Garner, £15M for Brereton Diaz, Kudus on loan and as I just said on another thread, Vasquez from MLS as Thelwell's cheap diamond in the rough 2nd forward. I'd be happy with that.

Bill Gienapp
21 Posted 20/08/2022 at 00:46:08
Mike (21),

Unfortunately, Camara's already made a move to Monaco. Fee was only around €13.5 million too – I was under the impression it would have been much higher, I definitely think we missed an opportunity there.

Dean Williams
22 Posted 20/08/2022 at 07:50:23
Of course it is. Have you ever known a club to protract transfers like our beloved etc.
Peter Hodgson
24 Posted 20/08/2022 at 08:32:17
I read yesterday morning that PSG had changed their mind and wanted a fee to release him. Move on promptly.
Matthew Williams
25 Posted 20/08/2022 at 08:41:12
If Gana wanted to come back, then he'd be here already... waiting for a pay off?... the bloke's minted already!

More greed in the modern game... sigh... he was way overated anyroad.

Christy Ring
26 Posted 20/08/2022 at 10:03:16
Lot of different views, but the bottom line is that Everton have agreed a 2-year deal with Gueye, and maybe a signing on fee, but PSG want a transfer fee.

The club are right to walk away and call their bluff, let them keep a player they don't want, and pay his year's salary, but I think they'll change their stance.

Kim Vivian
27 Posted 20/08/2022 at 10:17:45
I said this on a previous Gana thread and stand by it...

"I'm probably going to get burned for saying this, and my memory may be skewed, but I think we may dodge a bullet if he doesn't come back.

I thought we did to get him from Villa but my recollection with Gana is that he actually came in for a lot of stick in his early time with us for whatever reasons. After the initial interest in the 18-19 winter window when PSG started sniffing around many thought he would basically sulk and see the season out but he put in the best few months of his spell with us. I think most of us recall this final half-season when thinking about the player.

I am not getting the impression that Gueye is actually busting a gut to come back here. We need players who are here because they want to be here and we may just be better off letting this one slip through the net, especially if viable alternatives are in the frame."

Other than for the money I'm not even sure why Gana would actually want to come back to Everton. What's the appeal? He has a year left (I think) on his PSG contract and we are hardly an attractive proposition these days, and I think the prospect of relegation with another club (as he may see it) is quite discouraging.

Anyway, with the latest shenanigans, it's time to tell PSG and Gana to do one and move on to the next chapter.

Brian Harrison
28 Posted 20/08/2022 at 10:25:02
I said a week ago that Everton need to put a deadline on this possible transfer and, if it's not done by that date, then walk away, and that looks like what we are doing.

Obviously Everton thought they had a deal agreed with both Gana and PSG but now one or both of them are trying to move the goalposts, so walk away, Everton.

All we have done since Moshiri came in was pay whatever clubs and players wanted, but now – because of FFP – we can't pander to these clubs and players.

So ignore anything these players put out on Twitter – their only loyalty is to their bank balance.

Jim Wilson
29 Posted 20/08/2022 at 10:38:19
This is the one signing where Everton had to do what they had to do to get it over the line.

It is the essential signing.

Gueye would not only protect the defence properly with his tacking and covering he would keep the midfield ticking over with his passing.

But not only that, he was perfect to get the best out of Onana.

A defeat against Forest and PSG will know they have even more bargaining power.

A huge mistake not to pay PSG what they want, huge!

Alan McGuffog
30 Posted 20/08/2022 at 11:11:36
More than happy to eat humble pie regarding this. My memory is not what it was but I always thought that in his spell here he was so so. It was only in his last six months or so that he really showed his ability ? 🤔
Anyone share this view ?
Rick Tarleton
31 Posted 20/08/2022 at 11:23:15
Alan McGuffog, I agree with you. His creative contribution was limited, excellent at breaking up attacks by the opposition, but that was it.
Colin Glassar
32 Posted 20/08/2022 at 11:45:15
Rick and Alan, like Lee Carsley that was his job. He was used as a defensive midfield player. He was a spoiler. He was there to break up attacks and cover his defenders not be creating chances at the other end.

For his country and PSG he is another animal but then he's surrounded by better players. Remember how we suffered defensively when both left. Neither was replaced promptly and we suffered for it.

Sean Roe
33 Posted 20/08/2022 at 12:06:39
Further to what Colin is saying, his tackling stats for the Premier League were:

2015-16 - 2nd in the league
2016-17 - 1st
2017-18 - 2nd
2018-19 - 2nd

Ian Cowhig
34 Posted 21/08/2022 at 09:33:10
Sean@33 & Colin@32
Both Spot on. Which was why PSG paid the money and why we’ve been searching for a replacement, to do what he did, since he left.
Pete Neilson
35 Posted 25/08/2022 at 09:44:05
Reported this morning that PSG Director Antero Henrique is willing to allow Gueye to sign for Porto or Sporting on a free transfer, but he wants a transfer fee for him to sign for us.
Lester Yip
36 Posted 25/08/2022 at 11:46:04
I read that too. Probably a way to squeeze a fee out of us.

Looks like Thelwell is not a push-over. It will be a last-24-hours deal. I hope we'll land him. He'll let Onana time to grow into the Premier League as he provides stability and experience to mop up mistakes.

Jim Wilson
37 Posted 25/08/2022 at 14:41:22
Trouble is we keep losing points while we wait.

Gueye is a vital signing for the team and Onana's progress, so we should have the sense to make a compromise and get the deal done.

Kevin Molloy
38 Posted 25/08/2022 at 14:45:52
if we end the window having swapped Richarlison and Gordon for Onana, McNeil, Diaz Adams or Pedro and Gueye, that will be a remarkably shit transaction, even by the standards Everton have set these last few years.
Robert Tressell
39 Posted 25/08/2022 at 15:14:26
Kevin, in fairness, you need to add Coady, Tarkowski and Vinagre to your list of ins and outs.

On balance, the squad as a whole is possibly stronger for all that business – albeit the First XI may be a touch weaker until Calvert-Lewin is fit again.

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