Reports claim Gordon wants to go as Chelsea prepare £60m offer

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Anthony Gordon has reportedly told Everton and Frank Lampard that he ‘wants to leave’ the club with Chelsea now said to be ready to pay £60m to sign him.

It's the latest development in what threatens to become a transfer saga unless a deal is done quickly in the face of additional reported interest from Tottenham Hotspur, Newcastle United and Manchester City.

Having insisted he wasn't for sale a few weeks ago when Spurs were first linked with his signature, Everton turned down bids of £42m and £45m for Gordon last week and though the 21-year-old played the full 90 minutes for Everton against Nottingham Forest on Saturday, speculation has continued regarding his future.

Gordon set tongues wagging on social media yesterday when he removed links to Everton from his Instagram profile and now, according to David Ornstein of The Athletic, the winger has informed the Blues' hierarchy of his desire to leave.

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Sam Hoare
1 Posted 22/08/2022 at 23:22:15
Gordon goes for £50m plus £10m in add-ons. We get Broja on loan as well with purchase option of £35m. We get Gueye in for £3m and Kudus on loan and have £20-30m to spend on a new goal scoring winger (Gakpo, Brereton-Diaz, Rutter, Wahi, Trossard, Diaby, Thuram, Pino etc)

Easy right?!

Ditch the 5 at the back and play:

Patterson Holgate Tarkowski Mykolenko
Kudus (or Onana) Gueye Iwobi (or Doucouré)
Gakpo Broja (or Calvert-Lewin) Gray (or McNeil)

Geoff Lambert
2 Posted 23/08/2022 at 08:30:03
Sky now reporting £60 million bid for Gordon coming in today, other reports he has taken all his Everton links down from his social media.

Looks like he is Chelsea-bound today. I hope we can make some improvements with the incoming funds.

Ciarán McGlone
3 Posted 23/08/2022 at 08:45:22
If Sky are to be believed, now £60 mill+.

If Gordon wasn't interested in going, it wouldn't have got to this point. Time to get it done. Pity.

Let's pray we are allowed to spend the money and it's spent wisely... but that's a matter of infinite hope.

Danny O’Neill
4 Posted 23/08/2022 at 09:38:34
I hate to say it, but £60M. We have to take that, as much as I loved watching Anthony Gordon develop last season and think about the player he can become.

Providing we allow Lampard and his DoF to reinvest that, it will be good business. And that is key.

Sad to see him go, but as they say, sometimes there is an offer you can't refuse.

I know Michael might shout at me, but dare I say, follow our cousins' example Everton. Regularly sold their best assets but reinvested wisely to gradually and steadily improve the team to the point of challenging and achieving success.

Messaging with a few this morning, the important thing here is that Frank and DoF make the call. To lose another manager will be far more disruptive that losing a player with potential.

Craig Walker
5 Posted 23/08/2022 at 09:40:18
£60 million? Snap their hands off and get it done. Get two or three quality replacements in this week.

I like Anthony Gordon but I think a valuation of that kind would turn out to be the peak valuation. I can see him being another Jeffers, Barkley or Rodwell who moves for better things and it doesn't pan out: he certainly isn't Rooney where everyone could see he would become a great player.

Which is better, keeping Gordon or getting two or three attacking players in who will contribute more in terms of goals and chances? If we cannot afford to keep him and get in options then I think we should sell and do it quickly.

Out of the saleable assets we had, I'd have been in favour of losing Calvert Lewin and keeping Richarlison and Gordon but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I was upset when we sold Lineker, Beardsley, Rooney and Big Dunc. It's just business now. We need to recruit attacking players to stay in this division. Sentiment counts for nothing.

Oliver Molloy
6 Posted 23/08/2022 at 09:43:50
Gordon for us right now is a more important player than your man was for Brighton.

So if he goes, the fee surely has to be on a par to that of Cucurella - £60 million, anything less would be another failure from the board.

Brian Harrison
7 Posted 23/08/2022 at 09:44:15
Rumours seem to suggest that Chelsea have upped their offer to £60 million and even suggestions that Spurs are also very interested. who would have believed that we would sell our 2 main assets in the first couple of weeks following our relegation battle.

I think that unless Lampard is allowed to spend it on the strikers he will want and need to give us any chance of avoiding relegation then I think we might lose our manager before the window closes.

With Richarlison leaving and now Gordon, then I can't see Pickford signing a new contract, so we could lose him before next season, unless some quality players are bought before the window closes.

So Moshiri said "judge me at the end of the window"… well you have 8 days left and at present the judgement is a total failure.

Michael Lynch
8 Posted 23/08/2022 at 09:48:51
We'd be mad to sell Gordon at any price right now. What does it matter if the club have got £60M in the bank if we get relegated? Or worse, we blow the Gordon money on yet another over-priced, shit player who gets injured in the first match?

I wouldn't trust this club with 60p yet alone £60M in the transfer market. We need Gordon if we want to stay up, we need his energy, his commitment, his running, his skill at turning a defender and leaving them for dead. He's irreplaceable right now in my opinion.

What we need to do is keep Gordon, and give him a fucking striker to play alongside. Brereton Diaz would cost about £15M and wants to leave Blackburn. Just sign him, and play him with Gordon and Gray.

Trevor Powell
9 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:02:32
Just to point out that three of Gordon's four career goals to date have been from fortuitous deflections. He needs to be playing off a good striker.

I don't know who is advising him about moving to Chelsea but we have seen this all before with the likes of Rodwell, Barkley who then became non-entities in the Premier League. The only one who went away with great success was Rooney but he had done so much anyway by Euro 2004.

Brian Murray
10 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:07:14
Not really our interest or our problem what a player does when he leaves here. All worn a bit thin, the badge-kissing Sky-era players. Just spend the fee right for once.
John Keating
11 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:09:01
In our present position, £60 million is extremely difficult to knock back as long as Lampard is given the lot to invest on a couple of strikers and a decent attacking midfielder

As much as I want all our homegrown players with massive potential to stay it is more important to get players in who will keep us up.

At the rate we are going if we don't get someone to put it in the net we will be in bigger trouble this season as we were last

Sam Hoare
12 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:15:58
Michael, we'd be mad NOT to sell Gordon at that price. The end product that he is bringing to our team currently could be easily replaced for a third of that price giving us funds and flexibility to improve the team in other areas.

The fact that Gordon is an academy player means that this money would be all profit which actually means we'd have the room to spend twice as much due to the way FFP works. His sale would give us huge flexibilty in this and the January market, which could be crucial. I understand your point about not trusting the club to spend it right but by that remit, we'd never sell anyone. We have to have faith that Thelwell would invest it more wisely than his predecessors.

Even if Gordon did deliver on his potential then £60m would be a decent price and as we know many players never quite get there. No-one wants to see talented young players leave but there are other good young players out there.

For years people on here have asked to see Everton run like a smart business, like other smart clubs (Dortmund, Brighton, Leipzig etc); being a well-run club includes selling your good players for premium prices when the opportunity arises. That is exactly what we have here. A premium offer for a player that currently is not providing consistent goals and assists. I really feel it would be crazy to decline.

Dean Williams
13 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:20:55
Let's cash in as I'm not sure he's gonna hit the heights Chelsea do.

And if he does good luck to the lad because he won't be winning anything with us.

Joe McMahon
14 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:21:02
Trevor, I'm glad I'm not the only one to note that. At least 2 of the goals should have been awarded to Richarlison.

I'd be over the moon if we got anything more than £30 million. Up to £60 million is insane.

Danny Baily
15 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:37:31
Just take the damn money, Frank. I like Gordon but I don't see how he would feature in plans going forward, given the system we've committed to.
Charles Barrow
16 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:45:23
We don't know if he wants to move or not - he could well be pressured by his agent (who benefits by millions) or by his family who see £ signs or indeed it may be the club who want to make this 'business decision'.

And he may or may not have been a red but what is clear is that he puts 100% effort on the pitch and could never be accused of going through the motions. So there's no reason why anyone should have a go at him. The reality is players come and go and kiss the badge and then leave and kiss other badges! There's no point demonising players, particularly kids like Gordon.

It looks like he's going to Chelsea for big bucks - let's accept it and move on. I'm disappointed and think it's wrong move but if its happening lets hope the club allow Frank to buy some decent forwards with the dosh,

Michael Lynch
17 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:48:52
Sam, that's a persuasive argument, except that you say "The end product that he is bringing to our team currently could be easily replaced for a third of that price ".

Easily replaced? If that was the case, Chelsea would be targetting that £20m player rather than spending three times as much on our player.

The money is worth nothing to us unless you trust our club to identify and buy the £20m player that Chelsea seem unable to find, despite them being a much more attractive proposition for any footballer. Oh, and we have a week to do it.

Alternatively, we lose our best player to Chelsea, and then get fleeced for another Dwight McNeil, or Gbamin, or Moise Keane because we're desperate and stupid.

Sam Hoare
18 Posted 23/08/2022 at 10:57:41

Chelsea are paying that much money for his potential, for what he could be in 3 or 4 years time (a newish approach for them as they’ve spent big money on young lads from Villa and Italy too).

Whereas we need money to buy players who can deliver end product now. Gordon is probably a 6/10 player now who could be a 9/10 which is why Chelsea want him; whereas we could do with a player whose 7.5/10 now, even if they’ll never be more than an 8.

I agree that the argument on selling him depends upon the club making sensible replacements; something we have not done in recent years. But I’m an optimist and for us to ever progress we will have to start recruiting better so hopefully Thelwell etc have appropriate targets lined up. I like Gueye, Broja and Kudus as options.

Ray Robinson
19 Posted 23/08/2022 at 11:02:21
I’d be sorry to see him go because there is undoubted talent there but at the moment it’s largely untapped potential. In an ideal world, we’d keep him but we could strengthen elsewhere with £45 to £60M.

The lad is wholly committed and talented but he’s no Rooney.

If he does go to Chelsea, I see him going the way of Rodwell, Jeffers when they joined a “bigger” club. At best, a John Stones – a big pay packet, some nice medals but just a bit part squad player.

I honestly don’t see a £60M player in him – so I’d accept such an offer provided we have alternatives lined up. Absolutely no use selling him on deadline day and just banking the money.

Derek Thomas
20 Posted 23/08/2022 at 11:04:48
After pursuing, in the manner of foxhunting, success by throwing unspeakable (and badly aimed) amounts for unsuitable players, I thought the whole new paradigm – both Brands and post Brands – was to have a conveyor belt of 'buy cheap - sell dear' players, rather than the other way around?

If Gordon doesn't fit that description – who does?

£60Mill? – Snatch their arm off!!!

Len Hawkins
21 Posted 23/08/2022 at 11:36:11

Can we not persuade them to take Rondon & Kean too for a round £100 million? That would be £39.75 million for Kean and a few bob for Rondon plus a large bag of Everton Mints.

Lester Yip
22 Posted 23/08/2022 at 11:50:54
Looks like the bidding war has started and driving the value up near £60M + potential add-ons.
Raymond Fox
23 Posted 23/08/2022 at 11:53:29
It seems to me that Gordon will be sold, I would guess that some kind of a deal with Chelsea will occur, money and a player.

We need a decent goal scorer or two from somewhere, I think that's why there will be a deal.

If Gordon wasn't to be sold, Frank could have said Gordon is going nowhere, end of.

I wouldn't blame Lampard, I've no doubt he would like to keep Gordon and buy half of Man City's team but…

Shane Corcoran
24 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:01:13
El Bobble saying personal terms agreed.

All about the fee.

Tony Everan
25 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:09:20
Yes, Shane, looks almost a certainty now. I think there will be hard negotiations about the player(s) we get from them going on that will be very difficult to agree on.

They will want to loan only Broja we will want that plus a fixed fee option to buy, or a permanent deal. Maybe another player in the mix too as part of the deal?

Matthew Williams
26 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:34:26
So Gordon wants out, it seems, and Chelsea are offering £60 million!

Sell, as we need players here that are committed to our cause.

Shane Corcoran
27 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:36:20
So he wants to go, according to the usually reliable Athletic.

Of course, Everton fan wants to play for Chelsea.

Out to fuck with ya. The money will be payback for the Barkley deal. Another true blue.

Christine Foster
28 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:36:45
TalkSport now reporting he has formally told the club and Lampard he wishes to leave and join Chelsea for £50M plus £10M add-ons...

I wonder what the real story is?

Nick Page
29 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:43:43
If he is sold, Kenwright is finished.
Michael Lynch
30 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:43:49
I just hope we announce some incoming players at the same time as announcing Gordon has gone. If we're letting him go without a nailed-down plan, we're setting new standards of incompetence.

But as we're picking from an ever-diminishing pool of available players, I'm not sure what we can do this window that won't reek of Dusty Bin options.

Barry McNally
31 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:44:31
Buy Richarlison back!
Brian Harrison
32 Posted 23/08/2022 at 12:52:14

Chelsea agreed a deal with West Ham some 4 weeks ago for £30 million for Broja but Broja couldn't agree personal terms with West Ham. So Everton should play hardball and say we want Broja on a permanent deal and will pay exactly the same fee they agreed with West Ham.

A loan deal doesn't do us any good, if he turns out to be the player Lampard and West Ham believe he can be and scores 15 + goals then at the end of the season Chelsea recall a player who has proved his worth. So then his price is in excess of £70 million if you want him or Chelsea keep him now, how does that benefit Everton?

I think the reason Lampard hasn't gone for any of the rumoured strikers we have been after is because all along he has wanted Broja. Let's not forget, Lampard gave him his debut for Chelsea. He has worked with the lad so knows exactly how good he is.

Terry Downes
33 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:02:49
For £60mill I’d tell em Broja and Gallagher in a straight swop – that’s got to be better than the Che Adams rumours?

Broja is young enough to learn an improve and Gallagher is a ready-made replacement for Gordon? Win-win.

Eddie Dunn
34 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:11:57
I wonder about the truth in the story that Gordon has asked to leave? It could be a move by Kenwright to put the blame on the player if he goes.

If we do get £50 or £60 million, I suggest we make an offer to Leicester for Iheanacho, not Broja.

Soren Moyer
35 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:24:29
Don't be tempted yet, Everton!

You can still squeeze even more money from them! Hold on for £80mil.

Andrew Ellams
36 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:33:47

You probably said the same thing in 2004 when Rooney was sold…

Pete Clarke
37 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:46:37
Regardless of the money he goes for, it is just another sickening blow to myself as a blue. I had high hopes that he would grow into a top player under Lampard's coaching and also keep the hopes up of other young players coming through.

This just sets the trend for young players to think that they can just simply make big money in future transfers but in reality they lose their focus on what they should be doing.

I’m also saddened that there will be thousands of very young Everton fans who watched him last year and probably had their mums and dads running around the sports shops looking for a top with Gordon on it because he was their hero and favorite player.

Similar story with Richarlison I suppose with regards to being a hero of many a youngster although losing a local lad hurts a lot more. We now only have Davies and Coady as local lads in the first team which is piss-poor for a club of our size in a football mad city.

Of course it is understandable for a working-class family to have sat down and realized that this is a life-changing moment for them all with mum and dad instantly retired and they could go and watch their boy play football wherever it is.

Hopefully they are not watching him sat on the bench which is where I see him for this season at least. That’s a difficult team to break into but good luck to him.

As a Blue I can’t imagine anything better than my boy playing for Everton. I mean, how much money do people need?

So the cycle continues with us selling our best players whilst holding on to numerous other players who have failed us year in and year out. Players who are happy to be sat on the bench picking up absurd wages and other players who can’t play because of the slightest injury but who know that their contracts have them covered for years.

So much for football being a working-class game.

Kieran Kinsella
38 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:48:35
What odds this drags on to deadline and, as with Arteta, Bill says we didn’t have time to spend the soon-to-disappear money?
Michael Lynch
39 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:52:47
Don't worry, Pete, all those little lads can buy Dwight McNeil shirts instead.

As you say, Richarlison and Gordon are more than just our best players – they were the club's heroes of the season. Without them, we completely lack personality.

Charles Barrow
40 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:55:04
BBC reporting he doesn't want to go!!

So we don't know whether he does or doesn't as media outlets are contradicting themselves. No point blaming the player. We need someone positioned in Calderstones Park to ask him when he walks his dog this afternoon!

Shane Corcoran
41 Posted 23/08/2022 at 13:55:16
Pete, I hear you, but you’re in the wrong sport.

If Gordon truly wanted to stay for the love of the club, then he can stay as he has a contract.

Young players coming through know if they’re good enough they’ll make the first team and then it’s up to them if they want to chase money/“glory” with a richer, currently more successful club.

Take up watching your local amateur team or some other amateur sport. I know I do and it’s much more fulfilling.

Frank McGregor
42 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:03:24
I was wondering if Gordon has heard of a gentleman called Ross Barkley, it could happen that he could be sitting on the bench with him.

At least they could talk about the times they played regularly on Merseyside instead of sitting on the bench.

James Newcombe
43 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:18:26
£60M including add-ons… Who knows what anyone is worth in this daft game these days, but it sounds like we were mugged off for Richarlison!

We should make a move for Joao Pedro and try to sign some of Watford’s scouting team.

Joe McMahon
44 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:22:11
An insane amount for "a prospect". This is more than Liverpool paid for Salah, Sadio Mane and many others who are world class

It just shows, the Brazilian international was worth a lot more than what Spurs and Levy did us for.

Nick Page
45 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:23:09
Some of the tripe written on here is absolutely hilarious. Thanks for the laughs.

So … accordingly, we sell our best player and current most attacking threat for £60M, again, and we still haven't replaced the first one (nor the last one) and his goals….and we buy some Sky 6 cast-off for half the value, which is inflated anyway because of the selling club, who if he was that good they wouldn't be selling. And this is good business? Hahaha LOL.

Chelsea know exactly what they're doing and this is how they operate, ie, putting young players that won't make it in the window to “trade”. It's called the greater fool theory in the market for a reason.

To add to that, even if we do sell, we have one week to bring in this striker – we probably need two – whose value has just inflated by at least 50%. It's not Anthony Gordon's fault …. nor is it Chlesea's.

Caveat emptor!

Brett Jonathan
46 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:29:12
Sell, Sell, Sell!

I was happy to sell him at £40 million, so this is fantastic news! Can't assist, can't beat the first man, can't score. £60 million for someone with 'potential'? Yes, please!!!

Great to be on the other end of a transfer instead of the usual overpaying for average players.

Charles Barrow
47 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:29:30
BBC is reporting just now that he doesn't want to go. It seems it all depends which media outlet you read/listen to. Only way to find out - go along to Calderstones Park this afternoon and ask him as he walks his dog!
Michael McGrath
48 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:40:12
Have Gordon chauffeured down to Chelsea in a Rolls,collect Broja and bring him back on loan with an option to buy.

Then call into Southampton with 20 million for Che Adams.

Soren Moyer
49 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:55:45
If we have any funds available, we should go all in for Joao Pedro. Been saying this for weeks!!! Pacey, skillful, powerful, young and WITH Premier League experience. What's not to like?
Carl Manning
50 Posted 23/08/2022 at 14:59:13

That's a shocking assessment of John Stones since he left.

He's slightly more than a bit part player. As for a few shiny medals…. 4 prems? He's also played a World Cup semi and European Championship Final.

He's been proven right to have left. To put him only slightly above Rodwell and Jeffers is laughable

Scott Robinson
51 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:05:07
I don't know why the lad is in a hurry to leave. He only 'broke through' into the team last year and has hardly set the town on fire, unlike Rooney.

I get that the Everton 'project' is looking pretty wobbly right now, but I think he's better suited helping his home team right now, knowing that a future away from Goodison is only just a matter of time.

Barry Rathbone
52 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:05:34
We should have been relegated at least once in the Premier League era but up popped salvation via. the Rooney money and now we're at it again on the verge of a similar lottery win with flash.

We have to be the jammiest club on the planet considering how amateurish the club is.

The new guys at Chelsea are utter lunatics.

Rob Dolby
53 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:08:54
Lampard must be wondering when he is due a bit of good fortune.

Rescued us by the skin of our teeth, with Dele coming alive for 45 mins to then go back into hibernation once the season started.

Sells our best player who can't get off the subs bench for his new club.

Our only decent striker gets injured trying on women's tights ( I made that up but you never know!)

We buy the phenomenal Onana which translates as baby giraffe and now our new Number 10 and future of the club wants out.

It's like 'Carry on Football' – Frank is Jim Dale. Dele is Kenneth Williams, Calvert-Lewin is Charles Haughtry, Moshiri is Sid James, Kenwright is Hatty Jacques, Gordon is Barbara Windsor and Michael Kean is Bernard Breslaw.

Infamy Infamy, they all have it in for me.

The whole thing is a farce, how can we expect to stay in the division or even achieve mid-table mediocrity with the current goings on.

Bill Gall
54 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:13:07
The only person who knows if he wants to stay or go is Gordon. If he truly wants to go he can just put in a transfer request. Lampard wants him to stay and says for him to leave it will be a business decision.

All players want to win trophies and if Gordon asks to leave that means he believes that staying at Everton he will not have that opportunity.

What chance do we have of signing ambitious young professionals who want to win things, when players are leaving because they believe they can't do it at Everton?

You cant build a successful squad selling your best players, unless you are able to improve the squad by doing it, and once Everton have financial backing they are at the mercy of selling clubs who because of Everton's position, prices are inflated and with no guarantee that incoming players will fill the void left by the outgoing player. You can't change quality with quantity.

This is a no-win situation for Everton, they are damned if they do or they are damned if they don't. We all have our own opinions and I think he will go, but my preference is that he stays.

Jay Harris
55 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:15:19
I can't understand some of these claims that personal terms have been agreed and he wants to go without Everton having agreed anything. What happened to "illegal approaches" if this is even true?

For those wanting to sell I agree £60M is very tempting but what could we do with it.

Take a chance on a few £20M plus players. No top quality player wants to come to Everton. They all want Champions League clubs or at least a chance of Europe. We currently offer neither.

The Top 6 clubs will swallow all the talent to reduce competition even if they don't intend to play them. I believe Chelsea had about 40 players ourt on loan a couple of seasons ago. That should not be allowed IMO.

Steve Daniells
56 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:19:08
He wants to leave!
Oh no he doesn't!
Oh yes he does!
Pantomime season starting early this year...
Bjorn-Ivar Pedersen
57 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:20:43
Everton should tempt FK Bodø/Glimt with €10 mill, for Joel Mvuka. He is fast, he is skilled and have already played in European football for Glimt, still at 19 I think he is a better player than Gordon. Everton should try to buy for 10 mill and sell for 50 three years later. This club need to start earning money the only way that make sense.

But if we get 60 for Gordon, that really tells me how cheap the bastards at Tottingham got Ricky for.

Steve Shave
58 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:20:45
Rob @35 I usually like your posts but this one is way too negative and narrow minded. I agree frank has not had a lot of luck and I also agree we are farcical at times.

However, selling Gordon for that price is good business and not indicative of how badly run we are. We would be selling because it would enable us to put a squad of players together to play how they want to. It means sacrificing Gordon for the greater good.

Also, your assessment of Onana is typical of some of the knee-jerk, negative, anti-young talent nonsense I expect from some others. He's played about 30 mins in the PL!!!! Give him a chance.

Pete Clarke
59 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:22:15
Shane. Funny enough I am spoilt for sport over here in Auss. I watch the NRL on a Friday night. Now there’s a tough sport where they earn their money. It’s taken me nearly 20 odd years but I’m now able to watch and enjoy the AFL. Still frustrates me a bit but good to see men battle it out and give it everything.
There’s loads of sport going on in the local parks which is great to sit and watch with a beer at the weekend. My youngest lad plays basketball too so although I get a good sport fix every week it’s the Everton bug that spoils it all.
Gordon looks like he’s gone now although reports of him asking to leave may be off the mark. He’s probably listening to the clash “ should I stay or should I go ?”
I know alot of people have mentioned that’s it’s alot of money for a player with potential but you can be sure that any players coming to Everton will not be the finished article. We have paid top money for shit players for far too long and my only hope is that Frank Lampard is as good in the transfer market as he was on the pitch because if we don’t get a proper striker with a good eye for the net very soon then we will be doomed by Xmas. We probably need two actually and Lampard knows this.
I like some of the players who have come in so I can see what Lampard is doing. Our two full backs are young and still learning and soon they will need to get forward a lot more.
I like Tarkowski despite last week, Coady is a decent football player and the new midfielders are young and promising. Iwobi has surprised us all with his resurgence so we do have the foundation of a good tea. Goals win games though and I’m hoping we find a hidden gem somewhere.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
60 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:22:44
If this happens, it will be bittersweet. Gordon’s the first homegrown player since I started supporting the club to show real top-level potential, plus he seems to truly love the club. I actually was caught up in the old fantasy that players might actually want to remain loyal to the club that raised them. But money talks. And if we somehow manage to get the Gueye deal done, along with an attacking midfielder and 1-2 solid strikers/wingers, for the incoming £60 million — and they’re decent signings — that’s good business. And as others have stated we damn well better have these signings lined up already, so we don’t get squeezed at the deadline. In other words, if we avoid a relegation scrap this season with whoever we bring in, it will be worth it. If not, well, it will be another painful season to watch.

As for Gordon, I believe he’ll come to regret the decision. It feels like he could easily be another Pulisic, who went to the same big club 2-3 years too early for big money and doesn’t get the game time he deserves if only he were with a team like ours. Without an end product, he’ll be back playing for a mid-table team for half the price in a few years. I’m actually more concerned with his inconsistent deliveries than his lack of goals preventing him from being a top top player.

All of which is to say I think Sam #1 gets it spot on. He may or may not become a 9/10 and we sure could use him this season, but as we all know, every player has a price. I don’t begrudge management for letting him go at the stated price; I begrudge Gordon for walking a couple years too soon — especially to go to Chelsea. And of course will thank him for always playing his heart out.

Nick Page
61 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:23:27
Bjorn-Ivar @40….I agree - this is exactly the sort of business Everton should be doing. Rather than buying over-priced rubbish from Sky 6 windows.
Ian Bennett
62 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:26:23
Adama Traore? I mean fucking really. Lennon 2.0.

Cornering the market in non goal scoring, non goal creating shite.

Ray Robinson
63 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:28:16
You’re right Carl #32! Very unfair of me. Should have used Barkley as an example instead. The point I was weakly trying to make is that the likelihood is that Gordon will probably get lost in the bowels of the Chelsea squad - much like Hudson Odoi, Abraham etc. I’m not sure a Chelsea move will be good for him. Re John Stones, though, good as he obviously is, he’s never really been Guardiola’s go to centre back. At some point, money and medals notwithstanding, don’t players just want to play regularly?
Stu Darlington
64 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:32:03
I think we need to hold our horses here.
Who said Chelsea are “ ready to pay £60m”
I don’t believe they actually bid £40m in cash.
A player transfer value site I looked at a couple of months ago valued Gordon at£18-£20 m.About right I would argue
If Chelsea are allegedly so desperate to sign him why is Lampards much touted special relationship with his former club not being used in negotiations?
Sounds like media hysteria to me.
We’ll end up with a striker or two no doubt,probably Rondon/Tosun/Niasse/Sandro ( add your own nomination here )look alikes.
Don’t mind me,it’s being so cheerful keeps me going !
Bill Gall
65 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:32:15

You are talking about tapping up. There is a law against it, but it has been explained on here before by supporters, that with today's ability to communicate privately without the club knowing about it, that has gone out the window.

Mike Gaynes
66 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:32:22
Fine young player, fine young man, and I will never forget watching him sing with the fans after the Palace game.

But if he really wants to go and £60M is the real number, it would be the most spectacular piece of business this club has done for years.

Brian Murray
67 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:32:23
Not sure why fans are interested what happens to gordon or richy or anyone when they are gone. Not our problem. Mean sod all just another in a long line who know our limitations and do one.
Michael Lynch
68 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:35:27
I don't blame Gordon one bit if he does go. However much he loves this club, it's a shit-show right now. A footballer's career is short, and I don't think he wants to spend a season being played out of position in a grim fight against relegation when he could be in a top 6 club with ambitious new owners and a star-studded squad. Let's face it, even with Lampard here, there's absolutely no sign of the club kicking on and competing for honours, at least not until the new stadium is built and paid for.

In Tuchel he will find a manager who clearly sees him as integral to the kind of style he wants to play. And, obviously, he gets to earn a fortune and the chance to live in a world-class city with plenty of money to enjoy the lifestyle.

He knows he won't play every game, but he'll be working day in day out with some top players from around the world. His only risk is that Tuchel might be sacked, and then he could find himself loaned out by the new manager.

We're the losers if this deal happens, not Anthony. I wish him the best of luck, and I'm just sad he has to leave when we need him most.

Danny O’Neill
69 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:41:10
I think I learned quite a few years ago that it's easy to point the finger and blame the player. I wouldn't blame him for wanting to take an opportunity to better his career.

But I also don't believe for one minute that these young players have a full say in matters.

Agents, selling club, receiving club. All whispering and influencing young players for their own respective benefit. Left to his own devices, I'm pretty sure Anthony Gordon would rather remain and play for Everton. Just as Alan Ball would have liked to by all accounts.

Unfortunately, they only get so much of a say.

Mike Doyle
70 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:44:57
Charles #32,

Take Rob Halligan with you – Calderstones Park is one of his hangouts – and hit Anthony with a Good Cop / Bad Cop routine.

Also ask him if any of the current squad know what happened to the Arteta money.

Eddie Dunn
71 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:46:56
Talksport this morning were absolutely cock-a-hoop that Gordon "Wanted to leave Everton". Jim White nearly came in his kilt and Simon Jordan smiled on radio. Such London-centric media tosspots.

I hope we hang on to the lad and improve his terms.

If he goes, it might be good business but not if we tumble out of the Premier League.

So depressing to see how the Moshiri project has unbuttoned like my keks after Sunday dinner.

Garry Martin
72 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:49:35
Done deal, Frank diplomatically telling us how much he wants Gordon to stay but realistically EFC need to 'cash in' on him to balance the coppers.

We can only hope we have a good forward lined up to balance EFC.

Ian Bennett
73 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:49:57
Take a chance on a few £20M plus players. No top-quality player wants to come to Everton. They all want Champions League clubs or at least a chance of Europe. We currently offer neither.

I think we did that Jay, and the 4 or 5 years later gave them free contracts Mina, Gomes, Tosun, Walcott etc al.

Anthony A Hughes
74 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:52:39
I can't say I blame the lad really.

The chance to go to a club to win trophies, play in the Champions League and possibly push his claims for a place in England's World Cup squad.

Or stay with what is a mess at the moment and we may never challenge at the top again.

Jamie Crowley
75 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:52:44
This is nuts. £60 million you take all day long.

It's a business, for fuck's sake! That return on investment is through the roof.

Sorry to see him go, but there's absolutely no choice now.

Mike Morgan
76 Posted 23/08/2022 at 15:58:58
If we had replaced Richarlison immediately with a reasonable backup or second striker (possibly instead of spending the money on an inexperienced midfielder), we could have taken the Gordon money and been in a much stronger position.

They've made a real mess of the priorities this summer. We could survive without a winger but not without a centre-forward. The first job had to be to replace Richarlison.

We will probably now get the money for both but not have time to replace Richarlison or Gordon. If last season was tough with them, imagine what it's going to be like without them!

I hate being so negative but we've had months to replace Richarlison and to not do so is just bad management at all levels.

Bill Gall
77 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:03:15
Danny #63

While teams may have come to an agreement on the financial aspects of a transfer, only the player himself can decide to move or not.

A player is legally permitted to deny any transfer moves if they are still under contract with their parent club and wish to remain there for the contract's entirity or remaining duration.

Not to say that there are whispering in his ear by certain people who will gain financially if he moves.

Brian Murray
78 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:04:36
Give it a week and we will hear "It's always been my dream to follow in the footsteps of great wide players like Charlie Cooke (after googling it)."

We or most have seen Chelsea relegated along with Spurs and Man Utd... but of course football never really existed pre-Sky.

Danny O’Neill
79 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:13:32
I'm 50 years old. Only 3 teams haven't been relegated from the top flight in my life time.

Liverpool and Arsenal.

And Everton.

Anthony A Hughes
80 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:13:54
As you know, Brian, very few modern footballers give a fuck about what a club did 30, 40, 50 years ago – it's all about the here and now.

Right now, to the modern footballer, we're an average club playing in an old stadium with no silverware for a quarter of a century. Even our own want to leave.

I'm hoping Lampard is some sort of miracle worker who can fabricate a team worthy of the new stadium and we can reclaim past glories.

Les Callan
81 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:19:04
I'm 74 years old.

Only 2 teams haven't been relegated in my lifetime ...

Danny O’Neill
82 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:20:55
Not so sure about that Bill, especially with young players.

I think the keys are in the hands of the agents and clubs.

Older players, maybe, but like in any walk of life, when you're young, you are more easily influenced.

Rob Dolby
83 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:28:35
Steve @57.

I just find the whole situation to be one drama after the next. Lampard is conducting the band on the Titanic. Someone likened us to the Black Night in the Monty Python film. It's gallows humour.

Our freshly honoured Number 10 wants out after a half-decent season and 4 goals. £60M is madness and shouldn't be rejected.

On the football front, I think Lampard has made us harder to play against this season. We need multiple players that have a goal in them.

Having seen Onana for 30 minutes, I don't think he is ready to play central-midfield but I do think he can be played down the middle, similar to what Fellaini did for us. The lad has bags of potential. I only likened him to a baby giraffe for a cheap laugh.

Shane Corcoran
84 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:39:06
Nick, nobody else seems to want to play Sky 6 bingo.
Steve Daniells
85 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:39:49
Somebody mentioned earlier than we used to be a club that sold our best players to survive financially, and after spending half a billion quid we’re a club who has to sell our best players to survive financially. That to me is Everton in a nutshell, and deeply depressing.

I want Gordon to stay, not just because he’s one of us and one of our best players, but also because my six year old is called Gordon (after my late dad) and I was toying with idea of getting him a shirt with Gordon 10 on the back. As someone who got Speed 10 on a shirt as a teenager, I learned my lesson and glad I waited…

Martin Mason
86 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:43:55
£60 million? Total insanity.
Iain Johnston
87 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:45:22
Dwight McNeil is a prime example. Back in January they were talking £40m for him - 6 months later we get him on the drip for £15m plus £5m add on's.

Then of course there's Barkley. Didn't City offer around £50m at one point? we hold on because 'he's one of our own' and end up with £15m.

We need players, we need finance. If Chelsea want to give us £60m for a player with potential who'll probably get to play a few CL minutes, warm the bench on a Saturday and be the star of the show for Chelsea as they beat someone like Southend in a cold & rainy 3rd round FA cup tie, I say let them... get it done.

Brian Harrison
88 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:45:44
Well in 8 days time we wont have to read about who we are after or who we may be selling, the window will be closed, so at least we get a break from all this nonsense.
I have thought for a long time the window should be open from the end of the season to the week before a new season starts, so what you have at the start is what you are stuck with. We now have 26 man squads so you should have plenty of cover if your squad is a well balanced squad. The window closing after 4 games have been played then opened again in Jan just favours the richest clubs.
Alan McGuffog
89 Posted 23/08/2022 at 16:51:53
Les 81. How are you buddy ?...Sin Tellins seems a lifetime ago !
Mark Taylor
91 Posted 23/08/2022 at 17:04:25
If you take away the hype and the fact he's 'ours', if we were bidding £60m for a player of Gordon's status, I suspect we'd think the recruitment team had gone tonto. If Chelsea's new American owners have the money to burn to take a risk that big on a far from proven player, good luck to them and let's take the money.

By my reckoning, FFP means we'll have about £35-40m of it to re-invest. I think buying Onana for the sum we paid meant this was always inevitable. That money didn't exist without a further major sale, now or right at the end of the season. It may have been Pickford, DCL or as now, Gordon. Can we re-invest that £40m widely? I understand those who say not but if they are correct, we are finished as a football club anyway. With our current financial position, we have to trade to survive.

Joe McMahon
92 Posted 23/08/2022 at 17:15:20
Mark @9, some very good points. Particularly as DCL's value is probrably dropping, injuries, plus as Arsenal (where we all thought he was going) brought in Jesus.

Jack Convery
93 Posted 23/08/2022 at 17:32:23
Raheem Stirling went for £50m to Chelsea. To get around the £60m mark for Gordon is ludicrous. We must take it and re-invest it wisely - that's the gamble. Will EFC re-invest it wisely. It's ok getting the money in but what we do with it, is what matters.

Broja - loan seems nailed on but we need another forward to compete with him. DCL must be considered a liability for now, until he proves he can stay fit. I've noticed the Senegal CF - Keide Balde is on free transfer, after being released by Caligari, after they were relegated last season. Don't know much more, than what's on Transfer market but he was once bought for £27m by Monaco. He's 27.
Gueye - should arrive !!!! but so should another CM. Onana looks very raw right now.
Januzaj - on a free looks likely.

Move out Gomes and Gbamin, even if its only on loan to get some money off the wage bill, though we will no doubt need to contribute some of it.

Bill Gall
94 Posted 23/08/2022 at 17:43:26
Danny # 82

It does not matter about his age. A.Gordon signed a 5 yr contract with Everton on the 1st September 2020 and as he is under contract he is legally permitted to deny any transfer moves.

Bill Gienapp
95 Posted 23/08/2022 at 17:49:39
Let's be honest... we've had so few homegrown players break through in recent years, it's sad to see one who actually did depart almost in the blink of an eye. BUT...

... 60-million is insane. Insane. This would go down as one of the most batshit deals in Premier League history. People bemoan the FFP situation forcing our hand, but even if we were the best run club in the league, it would be crazy to turn that offer down.

Danny O’Neill
96 Posted 23/08/2022 at 17:51:36
Or hand in his notice Bill.

I, probably like you am under contract, but I can hand in my notice whenever I want.

I'm just suggesting that young top flight footballers are probably under more pressure from external influences than you and I will ever be.

I wouldn't underestimate Everton's role in this if it's going to happen. If they want to sell, they will.

I revert back to Alan Ball. When the club get's offered good money and doesn't want you anymore, you're gone.

Anthony looked dejected as he headed over to the Gwladys Street on Saturday.

Don't mistake me agreeing with it. I just think that agents and club are at play here more than a young player.

Mal van Schaick
97 Posted 23/08/2022 at 17:59:33
If Everton take the money, can we trust them to recruit the quality players that we desperately need, given three games and one point. We have been here before and squandered money on guesses and players who have rarely pulled on a shirt.

Moshiri wants to be judged on transfer business at the end of the window, by that time we may be rock bottom with one point because of board mismanagement.

Jeff Armstrong
98 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:17:13
Chelsea fans fuming at spending £60 million on Gordon apparently, they feel Hudson-Odoi is a better player anyway.

Kenwright needs to get on the phone quick before they bow to fan pressure and change their mind.

Dave Cashen
99 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:22:29
I smile when I see Evertonians mocking and even talking down the value of Gordon. It's as if they are more interested in having their opinion of the player vindicated.

Newcastle and Spurs were sniffing around at forty million. That's because Gordon is already a very good player with a lot more to come.

I despise Chelsea. A dirty club built on dirty money. They are jumped up arrogant pricks with an over developed sense of entitlement.

I loved it when Brighton charged them top dollar for a bang average full back. I am really enjoying watching Leicester use Chelsea's arrogant don't-take-no-for-an-answer attitude to make them pay through the nose for Fofana -Three knock backs so far.

I don't get the attitude of some of our fans. I even saw one poster claim we would take ten million if he wasn't a scouser. What does that even mean ? It's a bit like watching the haggling scene from Month Python " Ten ? fuck off. I won't take a penny more than five".

If the going rate is forty. Then it has to be fifty for Chelsea. if Anthony has had his head turned and wants to go. We have to make sure we squeeze every last penny out of these classless bastards

Frank Kearns
100 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:22:48
If your head has been turned, (by your agent), then off you go. Yesterday’s “man”.
Dave Williams
102 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:25:09
No one mentioning how brilliant our negotiating team has been to get the fee up to £60M?

This has to be a contender for deal of the decade if it happens. We cannot turn this down and risk him being finished by a bad injury. Sometimes in life you just have to be realistic, appreciate our current financial position and see that £60m for a home grown player will completely change the landscape and banish our FFP fears.

Yes, Frank and Co will have to spend the money on the right players but we must conclude the first part of selling Gordon. He is good but not great and has a lot to do before becoming a great player. We can't afford to risk that not happening.

Brendan McLaughlin
103 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:31:52
Jeff #98

I'll wager there are irate Chelsea fans embroidering several sets of silk bedsheets with anti-Gordon slogans as we speak.

Christy Ring
104 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:40:19
Gordon's head is probably turned. He's still nowhere near the finished article, but to offer £60M is a huge gamble, you couldn't turn it down.

Pedro, Broja, and a midfielder, would make us a much stronger team. Keeping Gordon, and trying to scrape a loan deal for another Rondon, would be another season trying to survive.

By the way, in my opinion, I thought we were sold short getting £60M for Richarlison, but this would more than make up for it.

Dale Self
105 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:40:19
Good stuff Dave, you almost have me hating them as much as Spurs. And don't you know those bed sheets will be of the 2000 thread count variety, bourgeois shite.
Bill Gall
106 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:45:42
My comment at #54 mentioned he could put in a transfer request if he wanted to move, Danny.

The only contract I have was the one I signed in St Swithins Church in Croxteth. in 1961.

(Little of myself. Born 87 Scarisbrick Road. Norris Green. Littlewoods one end Broadway the other end on 6 October 1940

Support of Everton 1952-53 season played on Goodison Park changed in the home team dressing room. After that, the normal progression: Boys Pen, standing under the Gwladys Street Stand end and then a season ticket holder in the Paddock before emigrating to Canada in 1976

I can't begin to imagine what the cost has been since with trips back home, telephone calls, having papers sent out and more of the usual expenses supporting Everton.

Andy Crooks
107 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:51:11
Barry Rathbone, @52 I think you are spot on. Even in the days of Moshiri lunacy this site would have melted down at a rumour of us paying £60 million for Gordon if he played for, say, Aston Villa.

Good player, blameless in the Everton shambles by the way, but if true, grab it and run. This is no Rooney.

Christine Foster
108 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:51:37
Dave Williams 102# – are you Kenwright by any chance?

As Chairman, he is solely responsible for the lack of duty of care in ensuring FFP wasn't breached the way it was. Because of that singular dereliction of responsibility, Gordon will be sold.

The club's survival in the Premier League was and still is under threat as a direct result of the almost comical, if it weren't so tragic, management of the owner with more money than footballing sense, having trusted Kenwright to run (or was that ruin?) this club.

Plaudits to the negotiation team? My backside. That we are where we are is an absolute disgrace. James gone, Digne gone, Richarlison gone, Gordon now...

In their place we have loans, freebies, players bought on the never-never, blame the player, blame the manager, blame the DoF... but no, we all know the broken record everyone is sick of hearing.

It truly is shameful mismanagement of Moshiri but most of all Kenwright, that has led us to where we are. It would not surprise me if Lampard walked. I hope to God he doesn't because, if he does, I think we are done. I think we are at a Tipping Point.

Iakovos Iasonidis
109 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:52:17
More than Richarlison... why are we still discussing it! If buying wise by selling one we can rebuild almost the whole squad with high potential, young players.
Jeff Armstrong
110 Posted 23/08/2022 at 18:58:21
Brendan #103,

Maybe the 5 or 10 Evertonians who want to keep him despite a possible £60 million offer will help them with the cross stitching then eh.

He's no Ball, Rooney or even Richarlison loss,
more in the category of Jeffers, Rodwell and Barkley...
sell while his stock is high.

Colin Glassar
111 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:01:03
1000% spot on, Christine. This mess has only one owner and that is Bill Kenwright Esq. He was left alone like Kevin McCallister and, unlike young Kevin, he burnt the house down and stole the silver!

Kenwright out!!!

Joe McMahon
112 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:02:31
Internet saying the £60M has been rejected. If true, it's madness, he shoots like Calvert-Lewin and can't pass. We need players that can score goals now!
Brian Murray
113 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:06:20

As soon as I see posts like that it puts us back another 2 years and creates divisions which he thrives on. Crafty bastard that he is.

Peter Neilson
114 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:07:29
Dave (99) thanks for a good post. He’s worth what Chelsea’s need is. It’s based on 50+ league games. He’s not “unproven” and this isn’t the “potential” from a player straight out of the academy. God knows why some think we should have an inferiority complex.
Christine Foster
115 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:07:57
Joe, it's more likely the worth £60M deal is makeweight players to the value of rather than a straight cash deal.

The valuations may be off, the players offered may not be who we want etc.. Payment may be over the contract years, etc etc..

Ian Pilkington
116 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:13:15
Christine @108,

Furthermore, the Kenwright regime appears about to reach a new low with two key players sold in one transfer window for the first time.

Christine Foster
117 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:13:51
Brian, posts like mine create divisions? Set us back two years? Heard it all now..
Anthony A Hughes
118 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:17:32
Okay if we're rejecting £60million, then they'd better tell us we don't need the money and they're bringing in a couple of strikers.

Our whole season could rest on this, what did you say, Moshiri? Judge you are the end of the window?

Brian Murray
119 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:19:39
Christine, no no no, you are preaching to the converted. I'm with you sister. I meant Luvvie has still got fans on here. Can't stand the guy. I was forefront at the 27 Years Campaign protest, for what it's worth.
Christine Foster
120 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:24:07
Apologies, Brian, read that post differently... as I have said in a reply to Bernie on another post, I don't hate Kenwright, but I do despise him for what he has done and how he has done it.
Brian Harrison
121 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:33:03
Most reporting that we rejected the latest bid from Chelsea which was £60 million and Leicester have also turned down a 3rd offer for Forfana. Will be interesting to see if either Everton or Leicester blink first or will they stick to their guns and hold on to their players. Whatever we do we must somehow get a striker or 2 in before the window closes.
Brian Harrison
122 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:33:03
Most reporting that we rejected the latest bid from Chelsea which was £60 million and Leicester have also turned down a 3rd offer for Forfana.

Will be interesting to see if either Everton or Leicester blink first or will they stick to their guns and hold on to their players?

Whatever we do we must somehow get a striker or 2 in before the window closes.

Trevor Peers
123 Posted 23/08/2022 at 19:43:52
Wouldn't be a surprise if we kept Gordon, only Everton could blow a 'gift horse' deal like this one.

£60 million for a player who neither scores or creates goals would be insane, no doubt we don't have the money to sign any strikers, just more crap midfielders.

It's going to be a long slog this season, entertainment will be zero.

Roy Johnstone
125 Posted 23/08/2022 at 21:23:39
Dave @99. Best post of the entire thread.
Brian Murray
127 Posted 23/08/2022 at 21:44:39
Bill post 106. A boys pen lad jeez you made of sterner stuff than me. Different factions of the city let’s say steal your dinner money putting it kindly. Luckily I was a protege of scarf tied by dad in gap in st end like thousand of others so no crush.
Adam Oakensworth
128 Posted 23/08/2022 at 21:48:22
Feels like we have to sell to buy at least two strikers so I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this goes through. Frank and co must be regretting spending 20 odd million of already limited funds on McNeil. Wasn’t the type of player we needed and is showing that with every performance
Roger Helm
129 Posted 23/08/2022 at 22:04:27
I say take the money. He’s good but not that good. There’s not a lot of product in terms of goals and assists. Since Rooney, how many players have left us and taken a big step forwards? Even Stones and Lukaku have had mixed fortunes.

I think we are probably seeing peak Anthony Gordon, let him go and be a squad player at Chelsea if that’s what he wants.

Pat Kelly
130 Posted 23/08/2022 at 22:20:30
If Gordon stays we have a £60m+ player we didn't know we had ! He still won't score but it'll be like a new signing.
Steve Cotton
131 Posted 23/08/2022 at 22:27:27
Good to see Josh Bowler who our powers that be decided that he was crap, now in demand for a number of premier league teams. Only 23 and probably a 25 million player.. Well done Unsy and the team, well done...
Kevin Molloy
132 Posted 23/08/2022 at 22:34:55
Now that it looks like he's off it's worth pointing out what an exemplary player Gordon has been in the short time he's been an Everton player. Carried the whole club it seemed winter last year, took that horrible responsibility of keeping us up onto his shoulders and tried his damndest.
I really hope it works out for him
Dave Williams
133 Posted 23/08/2022 at 22:38:56
Christine- my comment was tongue in cheek!!
That said the FFP debacle has to be down to the Finance Director and his team, or even the CEO but not the chairman. Is this why Ryzantsev or whatever his name is departed!
Brian Murray
134 Posted 23/08/2022 at 22:40:32
David. Guess who employed these people.
Jack Convery
135 Posted 23/08/2022 at 23:34:34
The scene. Bills London Office. With 48 hours to go in the transfer window,

Secretay - Mr Kenwright there's a call for you.

CFC DOF here Bill we're pulling out of the Gordon talks.

Secretary - Mr Kenwright there's another call for you.

D Levy - Hi Bill hope you don't mind but were pulling out of the Gordon talks.

BK shitting himself rings the Toon Army.

Hi Toon Army - Gordons Alive and still for sale do you want him.

TA - Yeh Bill We'll take him. How much ?

BK - £60m.

TA - no way Bill.

BK - How much are you offering then ?

TA - £25m,

BK - Shit !

TA - What was that Bill ?

BK - Er nothing. I've promised Frank £60m, so he can buy Broja, Gueye and A N Other,

TA - Well thats nothing to do with us. Tell you what. We'll make it £15m plus Almiron. Total £30m.

BK - Thtat's Fantastic. We can get Che Adams with £15m ! We have have a deal. I can't wait to tell Frank.

BK rings Franks mobile - Frank, Frank, Where are you Frank. Frank please answer. Frank, Frank. FRANK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pete Clarke
136 Posted 23/08/2022 at 23:39:18
Just wondering if this reportedly 60 million is to be paid in a similar way to how we got Dele? We may not see much of the cash until Gordon has made 40 appearances and scored 10 goals which could be never.

Anyway, we move on after another one of the better players leave us and now have very little time to set the team up for the next game. Who is now going to play up front with our super striker Rondon ? Who is going to fill that void in getting the ball into the box and give the opposition something to think about? We are undoubtedly weaker going into the next critical 3 pointer and my head is spinning at how badly this club is run.
Many of us are split on how good Frank Lampard is with some thinking that he’s out of his depth. My thoughts are that in a similar way to Martinez and Silva he is still learning his trade and will make mistakes but we need to stick with him. He is our only hope of building for the future. Let’s hope he gets the striker we need so badly and soon.
This mess is not his fault but that of poor leadership at the helm of the club. Who else is out there with the magic wand to turn this mess of a club around should he leave or be sacked because no matter who comes in will always be hamstrung by the jokers at the top.

Laurie Hartley
137 Posted 23/08/2022 at 23:47:28
I have posted on here a few times that I think Anthony Gordon will go all the way to the top and I still feel that way.

But —- regardless of whether the lad wants to go or not, I personally put Broja in the same category. I would like to have them both in the team but that is not going to happen so I am hoping Broja + comes the other way. The + being maybe enough to sign Diaz from Blackburn.

Shane Corcoran
138 Posted 23/08/2022 at 23:50:50
Gordon needs to issue a statement detailing the number of stories he’s read about his future, the number of these that are true and letting us know when his follow up statement to clarify his aforementioned future will be released.
Jack Convery
139 Posted 23/08/2022 at 00:03:34
I've asked about Keita Balde on a couple of other threads. Does anyone know why this guy, who was once on the radar of City, RS and Juventus and who Monaco spent £27m to buy him from Lazio is now a free agent at the age of 27. He's Senagals CF and only 27. Two footed. So whats gone on ?

Career Stats ( Transfer market) :

Played as... games / goals / assists.
Left Winger 95 30 18
Centre-Forward 69 20 7
Right Winger 30 4 6
Second Striker 24 7 4
Attacking Midfield 2 1 0

Bob Hannigan
140 Posted 24/08/2022 at 00:04:57
Note the operative words

“…has reportedly…”

Let’s wait and see.

Mal van Schaick
141 Posted 24/08/2022 at 00:07:13
On the recent news that Gordon wants to leave, let him leave.
Jack Convery
142 Posted 24/08/2022 at 00:11:11
Gordon will have to sign a non-disclosure agreement before this transfer takes place, Mark my words.
Kieran Kinsella
143 Posted 24/08/2022 at 00:47:54
Frank again tonight reiterated his stance on Gordon.

If the figures quoted are true, then it makes me think one of two things are going on:

A) Frank is being bloody-minded and bitter towards Chelsea. Or;

B) We are all naive thinking £60 million equates to a transfer kitty. Could it be that some or all the money will go to the bank, the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock etc, and that Frank won't have those funds to replenish the squad?

I remember in the Moyes era one summer we tried to get someone in June, probably Riquelme. It didn't work but come August, Moyes said something to the effect “We had money then but now we don't” – ie, a loan got called in or something? >Moshiri has said he's seeking new investment. Costs are rising. His rich friend can't bail him out any more. Could it be we need the Gordon money to stay solvent?

Could it be in Moshir's Vegas or bust worldview that he won't sanction a deal after our poor start as the unlikely riches of the Champion League seem even more improbable than a month ago?

I just smell a rat, fellows and I don't think it's Frank.

Laurie Hartley
144 Posted 24/08/2022 at 01:23:02
Kieran #143,

That is a valid question regarding the stadium financing. £60 million is almost 12.5% of the agreed build cost of £500 million. We will find out soon enough.

Jerome Shields
145 Posted 24/08/2022 at 05:28:20
Any transfer money will be gone. What we will get is loan deals
Garry Martin
146 Posted 24/08/2022 at 07:26:16
If true, £60 million would get us 2 half-decent forwards.

When and if Calvert-Lewin ever gets fit, I'd move him on to some mug of a tea… if anyone would take him!

John Kavanagh
147 Posted 24/08/2022 at 07:36:38
If Gordon wants to go then there's no point in keeping him. He can go to the Chavs if the money is right and become the new Franny Jeffers. But there must be no way back ever or in any capacity.

Figures of up to £60 million are being floated, but 'up to' is a range from zero to the figure stated. The 'add-ons' will likely include targets like captaining the first manned mission to Pluto. As for whether any of the money ever sees the light of day in terms of incoming transfers, I have my doubts. Arteta Money 2 is the long awaited sequel in the Kenwright franchise.

The whole rotten situation perfectly encapsulates what we've become under new improved pragmatic Blue Bill's stewardship; a small club and getting smaller every day. We will soon become the new Coventry City.

Jim Lloyd
148 Posted 24/08/2022 at 07:45:53
I think if £60 million is the sum that's offered, and the club sell him, I think that's good business. He's a good prospect; but we are in need of more players this transfer window. Whether he becomes a world class player, only the future will show. We need a goalscorer and a midfielder (at least) and if we can get those players in, then this transfer window will have been a good one.

I don't know enough about Broja to rate him or not. Some seem to dismiss him and some look at him as a top class prospect. I think if Frank and the DoF want him then that's their call and fine by me. They seem to have done okay so far.

Moshiri said to wait until the end of the window before judging, so there's a week to go to bring players in and (hopefully) get some players out but that's going to be hard to do. So I'll see what's happened during this window, in seven days. It's been a good window so far.

I think this period is the first step towards us attaining Premier League safety, I don't see any further goals than that, this season. Anything more will be a bonus.

Danny O’Neill
149 Posted 24/08/2022 at 08:13:10
Morning Bill.

I've had to sign up to a contract or agreement for every job I've had. There are terms for release on both sides. I can serve notice, the company or organisation can terminate.

Don't get me wrong, I would like nothing more than for Anthony Gordon to stay at Everton. For once, I agree with Stanley Mills's dad who recently said it would be better for him to stay at Everton and play regularly rather than get splinters at Chelsea.

There are many who chose that path down the years. Scott Parker's move from Charlton to Chelsea always springs to mind and there were a few who chased the dream to early moving to the likes of City only not to play very much. Can't remember the names, but I'm sure we could all provide examples.

Yes, it's always the player who is ultimately forced to come out and say they want to go. My point is there are many behind-the-scenes factors such as agents and clubs that influence that decision. Especially with young players when those agents and clubs know they are going to get their cut or profit off any transfer as well.

I've stopped blaming players for moving long ago. Some handle it better than others admittedly. Richarlison versus Lescott for example.

Ian Hollingworth
150 Posted 24/08/2022 at 08:13:37
How Kenwright can escape this is beyond me.

The absolute dogshit of a mess this club is in has to be laid firmly at the feet of the owner and the board.
They are the ones responsible for running the club and it has been run very badly for too many years now.

Here we go again selling the crown jewels. Don't get me wrong Gordon ain't worth that amount of money but teams out there challenging for honours seem to think he is. Frank wants to keep him.

The player would like to go because he knows there is zero chance of Everton challenging in the next 3 to 5 years, if at all.

So we need the money, okay, but remember why we need it. Thanks, Bill and Co.

The sad thing is even with this money we wont move forward as it will be a loan of a very average striker and most of the money going to pay off whatever debts etc this useless board have caused.

Sack the Board – Kenwright Out!

Tony Everan
151 Posted 24/08/2022 at 09:33:03
Kieran 143,

The rumours that we turned the £60M down because we want either Broja or Gallagher ‘on loan' as part of the deal. Not to buy, but a loan only. Feeds in to what you are saying.

Alternatively making a £25M rising to £42M offer for Gibbs-White last week says we have money to invest. But that offer at one minute to midnight may have been a nonsense to try to appease Frank that they are trying for him.

I think the same as Jim @153, and many others, unless those two players, class forward, class midfielder, arrive in the next few days, we are going to be in a season-long Bottom 6 fight.

It's so important to the future of the club, can we really afford to let this run until deadline day? We will get held to ransom if we do that and if we think that other clubs will be benevolent, keep loose promises, or help us out, then our DoF and board are deluded on a grand scale.

The time for action and concrete decisions is now.

Brian Murray
152 Posted 24/08/2022 at 09:44:12
At the Chelsea End (fan site), they are saying they bid £25M plus add-ons rising to £40M and urging them to move on from this. So the odd scrambling loan on the last day looks about right.

Frank, if I was you, I'd take your wife and kids away from here while you still have some standing in the game as it's not going to end well for you.

James Marshall
153 Posted 24/08/2022 at 10:02:41
My bet is Everton are going to flog him at the last minute and maybe grab a couple of loan deals – then they placate us peasants by saying there was no time to spend the fee. The money then goes into the giant sandpit and keeps the wolves from the door.

Next window or next summer, they'll do the same thing with Calvert-Lewin until the new ground is paid up. All the while hoping we somehow magically stay in the Premier League.

Brian Harrison
154 Posted 24/08/2022 at 10:13:23
Lampard on the radio this morning has said that he and the board both have major inputs into what transfers happens. He said that thats they way it should be.

He went on to say that he makes the footballing decisions but he also said that the board have to consider the financial aspect as well.

Brian Murray
155 Posted 24/08/2022 at 10:20:08
So Frank saying he sanctioned the letting go of two forwards and paying £20 million for McNeil. If I was him, I'd stay quiet.
Raymond Fox
156 Posted 24/08/2022 at 10:37:52
All this stuff is rumours, admittedly some turn out to be true sometimes.

The players we desire have to want to come here for starters, plus all the contracts, values etc have to be agreed, no easy task.

We are not exactly a glittering attraction either are we at the moment, we will still be in a probable dog fight whoever we might sign.

If Gordon has said he wants to leave and become an International, he's a better chance of becoming one staying here, rather than sitting on his backside at Chelsea, I can tip him that.

James Head
157 Posted 24/08/2022 at 10:40:57
Bill Gall(106), I was also born in Scarisbrick Road some 20+ years later, it was always an Everton Stronghold as like my grandparents (Fleming) a lot of people had moved there from Vauxhall as that area was cleared and Everton always had a strong following down there, I digress, Broja on loan must be part of this deal or whatever we get in for Gordon will be wasted by the clowns running the circus that we've become, sadly I wouldn't put it past them to take the £60m and piss it away on some injury prone phoney with two left feet, Kenwright OUT!
Danny O’Neill
158 Posted 24/08/2022 at 11:00:50
As we are talking about where we were born, I was introduced to the world and Everton at the then Sefton General Hospital on Smithdown Road. My last visit there was on my wedding day to see my dear departed Auntie who was being treated for later stages of terminal cancer.

It's now the site of an Asda Superstore.

I digress too. I don't think Anthony will ever forget his roots.

That's an interesting point Brian @158. On one hand, is Frank just talking common sense and reality? On the other has he be tainted by the blue Bill narrative?

Len Hawkins
159 Posted 24/08/2022 at 11:08:30
When going online my homepage is MSN News, this morning it said Samuels from the Mail reckons because of our FFP plight we have to get in £80million of sales so I think the Gordon money is already spoken for. Kenwright is going to put it in the account with all his other dealings Arteta, Fortress Sport, Kitbag etc.
Ray Jacques
160 Posted 24/08/2022 at 11:48:06
Danny, I was born in Sefton General too. Think it is under the bakery at Asda now!!

I would sell Gordon as the lad obviously has potential and wants to better himself, so why stay at Everton??

Issue is that any monies reinvested on new players will be wasted. Gordon knows this as well.

Wonder if we could get a team together of lads born in Sefton General. Would probably beat the current Everton team, lol.

Pete Clarke
161 Posted 24/08/2022 at 11:54:32
Brian. Sounds like Frank has been lured into the circle by the two loonies and he is just disguising what the actual truth is. I hope I’m wrong on that.
This Gordon move to Chelsea only came about after Moshiri had told us to judge him after the transfer deadline so the money for Gordon would not have even been in his equation. It sounds to me like they just want the money coming in but leave Frank with little of it to spend.
We not only need a striker, we need a top goal getter who can hit the ground running ASAP and guess what ? Even if we got $60 million for Gordon and it was all given to Frank it would be near impossible to find a top striker for that money and little chance he’ll choose us.
The only other hope is that we get a Kevin Campbell Mk2 on the cheap ( 30 mil ) from somewhere to pull us out of this shit.
Moshiri has put plenty of money into this club and we can’t fault him for that but the way he had allowed this club to be run is beyond negligent. If we allow him to carry on running the club this way then you can be sure chubby chops will have his statue outside BMD.
Tom Bowers
162 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:03:33
What Everton need is obvious to all and without it we will be struggling again all season.

Gordon has talent but is not the answer to what we need so being caught between a rock and a hard place has to be resolved before the deadline.

The lad could be a World beater but like Barklay could become a bechwarmer at Chelski.

If the lad insists on a move why keep him here unhappy.

Gallagher and/or Broja in part exchange may be tempting especially Broja being mainly a striker.

If nothing happens then we are in for a miserable season yet again. The writing is on the wall for management to see.

Tony Everan
163 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:04:38
Now a few rumours including the Athletic that we are currently in talks with Man Utd to sign James Garner for around 14m. Good business if we can do a deal .
Alan McGuffog
164 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:10:07
Support your local Man U cast off.
Justin Doone
165 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:10:40
Bring in Cavani on a free.
Gallagher only as permanent as part of any deal.
Please no loans involved!

Once incomings are sealed sell Gordon to Chelsea for £60M plus £2.5M each of the next 5 seasons they qualify for Europe. Discounted for Gallagher £30M.

So not £40M plus additions or £60M including add-ons. It's £60M plus..

or like Leicester, no thanks!

Brian Murray
166 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:17:05
Tony post 163 If true about yet another midfielder it’s either another suicidal blow to our chances of getting a striker or two and surviving or we are so very confident tat the forward line players are already signed sealed and deliver or as good as. Or just a another lazy news day and them gobshites at goodison are fair game for anything we tell them
Charles Brewer
167 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:22:03
Leaving out the "he's one of us" and so on, it may well be better for everyone if he goes for anything north of about £40 million.

Given the results so far this year (last night doesn't count), it is perfectly clear that the current side cannot win with Gordon, whatever he brings isn't enough to give us the required number / quality of chances to win matches even against dross like Villa and Chelsea. That said, I suspect that the current team could not win with Alan Ball, Kanchelskis, Duncan McKenzie or Peter Reid. On the other hand, if Gordon played with a Duncan Ferguson, Bob Latchford or Alex Young, he'd probably be very successful.

This team is currently heading for relegation because no matter how much improved the defence is (and it is, enormously), how good the wingers (or those doing the role) are, or how effective the midfield is (and I've seen no-one better than Iwobi in any match, anywhere this season), drawing half your matches 0-0 or 1-1 and losing the rest 0-1 is going to get you relegated.

Gordon does not score goals and neither do any of the other resprayed midfielders like Iwobi or Gray (though he does get the odd one).

If he stays and Everton don't get a proper goalscorer, Gordon will be a member of a team that looks terrible and gets relegated. If he goes, and Everton buy someone who can benefit from the Patterson / Mykolenko / Iwobi etc delivery machine, he will look like someone who left a side which succeeded.

I did a postgraduate course in counterfactual conditional logic once, and our conclusion was that "what ifs" are loads of fun, but a very poor method of reaching reliable conclusions.

Nick Page
168 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:23:03
There should a moratorium on this sodding club dealing with the Sky6 gobshites
Robert Tressell
169 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:27:14
Very odd transfer saga. Looks like it will happen.

Otherwise very difficult to predict the look of the First XI after the window closes.

Perhaps Onana and Garner as the central 2 and Gray and McNeil either side of Broja or DCL.

That has, at least, a nice balance to it and scope to develop / improve as a unit.

Derek Wadeson
171 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:43:08
Brian @ 166

Who do you mean with your "gobshites of goodison" comment?

Brian Murray
172 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:44:39
Derek. That’s the way we are treated by the press / sky etc. Feed us any old jangle.
Tony Everan
173 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:45:23
What’s gonna happen, is Gana a gonner? Is it Garner instead of Gana or Garner plus Gana ?

I think if PSG relent and we can get Gana without a fee he will come in too.

Michael Lynch
174 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:49:40
I know nothing about James Garner, except that he was on loan at Notts Forest.

So my question is why, considering they are buying just about every available player on the market, aren't Nottingham Forest trying to buy him?

Derek Wadeson
175 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:54:21
Brian, sorry for one moment I thought you were being negative about Everton.
Kim Vivian
176 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:59:42
Why does Martin Samuels seem to be the oracle in the know regarding our finances? Or is he speculating?

If that £80m figure was accurate surely there would be far more talk about it in the light of recent rumours. I'm taking that with a serious pinch.

Tony Everan
177 Posted 24/08/2022 at 13:00:04
Robert 169, who is the third midfielder Iwobi ? I need help. It’s all beyond me these days with the 352s and 343s on how the players fit in to it and who gets left out. Then how it works in practice rather than theory.

I think if Garner comes in then Allan will be sold if we are getting Gana I can’t see us having both. Gomes will probably go out on a heavily subsidised loan in the hope he does well and then someone will take his wages off our books for his final year.

Rennie Smith
178 Posted 24/08/2022 at 13:17:00
Garner, Gana, sounds like an episode of Police Squad (only people of my age will get that so apologies to 90% of you).
As sad as I would be to see "one of us" go, you can't knock back that kind of money. But who knows how the deal is structured, Frank might not see much of it straight away.

Can we hope for an Iwobi-style rebirth for Rondon? (that is another joke by the way)

Jim Lloyd
179 Posted 24/08/2022 at 13:49:46
Charles (167) I think Gray is capable of scoring more goals. He did fairly wel last season before he got injured. I think he got 5 whereas Richarlison got 10. I think what the problem has been (one of several) in goalscoring, is that we haven't functioned as a team that is set up to score goals

I thought we did so on Saturday. Someone reckoned we made 8 goal chances, which isn't bad, if we could learn to put more away. If we do get a goalscorer, I hope he doesn't depend mainly on crosses to is head, which DCL seems to concentrate on. I hope we can find someone who can make more ways of scoring, and also provide chances for team mates. Young was adept at scoring with his head and feet, and also making chances for his oppo roy Vernon. They're not a bad example of what I mean.

Rory Grant
180 Posted 24/08/2022 at 14:33:36
Charles #167, getting to the point.

It is obvious that unless Gordon is sold, there are no funds to buy... anyone. Chelsea know that and are not in hurry so £40M must do. We are not in a position to negotiate and, with the current squad attacking options, we are as good as relegated.

Money can buy but our club being so incompetent means we are too late already. I wish we could get real and already prepare for the worst: championship, new stadium with humongous debt and clueless owners.

I do believe Lampard and Thelwell are doing their best, but our club is facing an existential threat – and it has nothing to do with 3-4-3 or 3-5-2.

Rob Halligan
181 Posted 24/08/2022 at 15:01:05
Danny # 158 and Ray 160. I was also born in Sefton General hospital. My gran was a nurse there at the time and I’m pretty certain she was there at my birth. Our family home at the time was Granville road, almost opposite the hospital, the other side of Smithdown road. We’ve got enough so far for 3-a-side!!
Brian Murray
182 Posted 24/08/2022 at 15:06:05
Tori post 180. Chelsea as you say are probably in no hurry for gordon so are treating Everton like everyone else does. A dinosaur club living in the past but if we don't put a deadline on this deal ( tomorrow) We will be left with nothing but scrambling about the last few hours which will mean a frank walks or b we fail to score goals. Or both.
Tony Dunn
183 Posted 24/08/2022 at 15:12:17
This transfer stuff is doing me head in. . fairly obvious we cant do anything til Gordon goes and contrary to the general publics perception,quite a few of these deals are scheduled a long way in advance. I.E. if such and such happens will you be willing to sell him or if we get that one do you want this one. Money men mostly advised by football men, obviously not in our case. Anyway I 'll sign up for the Walton hozzy 5 a side against Rob Halligans sefton hozzy selection
Ray Robinson
184 Posted 24/08/2022 at 15:13:29
Another one born in Sefton General! We almost have a 5-a-side. I’d have to play in goal though. My knees are knackered.
Dave Cashen
185 Posted 24/08/2022 at 15:23:43
"He can go to the Chavs if the money is right and become the new Franny Jeffers. But there must be no way back ever"

Bloody hell John mate, that's a bit harsh. Last time I saw that much venom it was directed at Putin.

I think many on here are falling for West End Bill's three card trick. The one were it's always the departing players fault.

We yearn for players to come through our system into the first team. Anthony Gordon has done that with bells on. His skill and desire to run through brick walls was one of the major factors in us staying up. He won the hearts of the Goodison faithful and they showed their appreciation. The song "Oh Anthony Gordon" rang around not just the old lady but everywhere we played.

I understand why some think the offer is too good to refuse, but why stick the boot in ? He can't shoot and doesn't score goals ? Anybody who thinks this boy can't shoot either doesn't watch the games or has memory issues. He forced two very good saves from a very good keeper four days ago. One on the turn from just inside the box and the other, an absolute screamer from twenty five yards.

As for scoring goals. Dave Thomas didn't score goals. He just served them up because he played with proper strikers (a luxury AG is yet to experience). He is a wide man who does more than his fair share of defensive duty's. so much more so than the prolific and much vaunted striker Broja with his epic haul of 6 EPL goals

some of the names being put forward as replacements make my blood road in cold. If we buy enough bench warmers and Championship players we will surely end up there.

We had all this "Get rid " nonsense with DCL but without his goals we'd have been drowning even with Carlo in charge. Now he's had a sustained period of injury. He's shite again.

The other mans grass isn't always greener, If a player isn't proven in the premier league he is unlikely to improve our situation.

Let's at least aim high. We have something Chelsea want and they have a supremely talented Yank who desperately needs first team football this year. We can virtually guarantee it. Unlikely ? Maybe, but that avenue is screaming out to be explored. So is Stevie Me's unhappy striker.

If Gordon has to go let's at least test the waters and try to trade up. Years of paying through the nose to trade down hasn't worked

Danny O’Neill
186 Posted 24/08/2022 at 15:38:46
We're building the foundations of a promising side Rob.

Are you at Arsenal away? Catch up for a drink?

Kevin Molloy
187 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:05:25
Terrifying midfield, that, Robert, if we're under the cosh (which we are). And if we add the lad who went on strike at Southampton, I'm not feeling any better.

But Everton lashing out £110M and going backwards is no longer a surprise to me.

Jay Harris
188 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:19:38
Michael #174,

Forest have made an enquiry for him. Personally, I think he's a better footballer than Conor Gallagher but I would like Pulisic and Loftus-Cheek accompanied by Ollie Watkins. Then we would have a team to compete.

John Keating
189 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:26:50
It's all getting a bit boring now... Another week and another game looming without a striker.

Get him sold and get a couple of strikers brought in asap. Let this weekend's game be the last with nobody up front.

Michael Lynch
190 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:29:07
Jay @188,

I didn't realise they'd made an enquiry. He's certainly rated by the Forest fans.

If it's a choice between Notts Forest and us, it will take some persuading for him to come to Everton, especially as he and his family are all RS!

Shane Corcoran
191 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:38:56
I don’t agree that no business can be done until the Gordon money comes in.

All talk is just talk until the deal is done, but surely the Gana transfer wasn’t dependent on Gordon going considering how long ago it’s been.

And the gauson from Ajax is only a loan, so again not likely on hold until the cash comes in.

Brian Harrison
192 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:42:15
I see Gana Gueye is pleading with PSG to cancel his contract. I don't know why PSG are playing hard ball with Gana, obviously they must have their reasons.

Strange that they have cancelled Anders Herras
s contract and he has 24 months left on his contract whereas Gana has a few months.

I will be glad when the window shuts. As someone said yesterday, since the window opened, according to the press and other outlets, Everton have been linked with 116 players.

I can just imagine Sky on the last day of the window they will have us trying to sign about 6 players, hope they have hired extra doctors that will be needed to complete the medicals.

Brian Murray
193 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:48:17
A professionally run club in the top flight would say "Enough is enough. The cut-off point is now over Gordon."

Why risk our survival waiting for them cockney no-marks until they are good and ready if they feel like it? A crucial few days for us...

Dale Self
194 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:55:18
If the Garner thing is true (thx, Tony) and we get Broja, which looks likely, this is where we can get good bang for the buck – sorry, an American phrase.

Picking up well-trained young professionals at struggling big clubs who are reassessing their career paths and may not wish to leave England is something we could benefit from with considerably less risk than picking up some stars in weaker leagues.

We do have to contend with the sharks on the other side of the table but, if we make a stand on a good offer, some of these will work out. Resist being a loaner club and there is a market there.

Paul Kossoff
195 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:57:52
Bite their hands off! If he goes, I hope he does great for Chelsea and wins the Premier League.

Important that we spend the cash wisely and not throw it away on more defenders and useless wingers who are no better than those we have.

Striker please!

Bill Gall
196 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:05:10
I don't like posting on here as the comments seem to be "Fuck Off, Bill"... but I will try.

Yes, we need a striker but most of what is quoted are either not for sale or have an inflated price we cannot afford. And another thing that keeps getting asked: What is our recruiting department doing as there are lots for sale out there?

West Ham, playing in Europe, home ground in fashionable London with a reputable manager.

David Moyes quotes: "I have lost count of the number of bids West Ham have made for new players this summer. We have bid for a lot of players, maybe we are trying to go way above our station, maybe I have tried to go even higher than we are ready for, but generally the club tried to get really top players."

There are 19 other clubs in the Premier League looking for players, and I do not believe that Everton's recruiting team is not trying – I just put Moyes's quotes in to show the difficulty we have.

Do not sell Gordon – it is not that easy to replace him with money, and we don't have another winger in the club as good as him.

Sean Roe
197 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:09:29
I guess he is typical of today's youngsters. He wants instant success this minute and doesn't want to put too much work in to get it.

Get the best possible deal for Everton FC as soon as possible and move on.

If these players are media trained, perhaps they should make these players aware that fawning all over a club and then wanting to leave the minute another club shows interest is not a good look.

Paul Kossoff
198 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:15:28
Micheal @174.

James Garner is a bit of a cowboy, a maverick. He does lay his cards on the table and sometimes comes up with a winning hand.😀

Alan McGuffog
199 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:16:01
A little harsh, Sean.

When you were his age and another employer offered to pay you a much larger salary with better working conditions, what would you have done?

Brian Murray
200 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:17:14
Paul @198.

I'm not sure. Haven't seen the files on him.

Brian Murray
201 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:19:50
Bill @196.

"For the good of the club, could you kindly leave the premises."

How's that for you?

Matthew Williams
202 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:27:50
So Gordon is on his way it seems.

I'd replace him with Ryan Kent from Rangers... could form a decent partnership with his old mate Patterson.

Bill Gall
204 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:32:13
Brian @201,

That was just a tongue-in-cheek comment in that I thought the Fuck Off was to me!

Alan McGuffog
205 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:34:04
Ooh, Matthew. We couldn't do that, surely...

Isn't he an ex-Red?

Shane Corcoran
206 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:34:18
Alan, it's absolutely fine to compare Gordon's job to any other as you've done.

However, this is a forum full of Blues. Gordon is a Blue and so we think he should feel how we would feel in his position.

In fact, I'd love it if Lyndon or Michael would set up a poll to ask what contributors to this site think they would do in Gordon's shoes, regardless of the reasons.

Martin Conroy
207 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:35:27
If needs must then sell him and move on. Personally I would prefer to keep hold of Anthony.

Danny, I'm another one born in Sefton General, lived in Portman Road right opposite until I left home in 1971. Happy days getting the 46 bus to the sheds on Carisbrooke Road and walk up to Goodison.

Danny O’Neill
208 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:37:55
We have 4 Martin. Can we make 11 by Saturday?
Sean Roe
209 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:44:04
Alan @199,

I would go but then I am not and never will be in a job where I have thousands of adoring fans that hang on my every word.

I am not actually getting at Gordon and don't blame him for wanting to go, more the media training that these young lads receive. I don't doubt his love for the club but the training should include wording things in such a way that they don't come back to bite you on the ass in the future.

How many club badges did Robbie Keane kiss while announcing ''This is the bestest club in the world and I've always supported them''?

Shane Corcoran
210 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:47:38
Sean, in fairness to Robbie I think he said it was a dream come true to sign for Liverpool and for Celtic.

Quite a common thing for a young soccer fan in Dublin.

Sean Roe
211 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:57:57
Shane, that's fair enough but the vast majority of fans wouldn't know that which brings me back to the media training. I just thought he was a prat. Bloody good striker though to be fair.
Neil Copeland
212 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:09:56
Danny #186,

I was born at Sefton General too, so we are up to 5 now I think. My knees aren't good either do may need to turns in goal with Ray.

Rob Hooton
213 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:19:10
If I was Gordon and someone was offering me an extra £5 million a year, Champions League football, and a chance to win trophies whilst living the high life in London (and probably going to a World Cup just because I'm a big money signing to a Sky 6 club), then I would seriously think about it.

For about 2 seconds… and go for it.

Derek Taylor
214 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:22:27
I have little doubt that the lad will go to Chelsea. Whether it be £50M or £60M coming in, I also have little doubt that the club will blow it in exactly the same way half a billion has been blown in the Moshiri era.

One thing is for sure: the Lampard and Thelwell duo are not much of an improvement in the market on those they replaced.

Colin Metcalfe
215 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:27:13
I don't think for one minute he has told the club he wants to go, it's just a spin by the club to soften the blow. I really hope he stays, he has a lot of potential and will only get better.

I would love the club to just stand their ground just once and say "Stick your money!"

Derek Taylor
216 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:42:54
Colin, we haven't had many 'star' players in recent years but those we've had have all been sold to balance the books.

Without fail, their replacements have been dross as we've sunk nearer to the brink. Pickford to Man Utd in the next window is a good bet!

Julian Exshaw
217 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:56:11
I think if the club is actually offered £60 million for him then we have to accept it.

What would worry me is if the money will be reinvested in the squad and if so, on whom?

It's going to be an interesting few days and the club have to get it right with no scrambling for bargain bin replacements at midnight next Monday!!

Dale Self
218 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:58:28
This has all gone on for so long, just Riquleme already!
Bill Gall
219 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:59:04
Just read an article from the Royal Blue Mersey on the Pros and Cons of a loan move of Christiano Ronaldo to Everton.

Surely he is too old?

Will Mabon
220 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:24:13
Derek, the last 6 years have been a constant round of trying to despatch and replace "Deadwood". The very deadwood the club itself has brought in during this period. How many players have we got in, kept injury-free, and improved in fitness and performance... that are still playing now?

As you allude, if they can so much as tie their laces, we'll sell them.

Later last season, many here speculated that if we were relegated, Calvert-Lewin or Richarlison, Gordon and Pickford would be gone. Well. we weren't relegated and now look...

I think they've calmed it a little now, but Watford aside, who else at any level has done this transfer dance, with almost half a billion spent and still needing to balance the books? It's pathetic, you couldn't do a better job of it on purpose.

We had accepted the loss of Richarlison, mostly as a result of him wanting to go, it was said. We apparently had "No money" due to FFP etc. No real mention of many players, save for needing a forward – and perhaps some of the money from the sale could facilitate this.

Still to this point, the club have not mentioned at any time, having to sell Gordon or anyone else to fund a forward. Now, it's being accepted and discussed like it's some sort of inevitability that was there all along. People seem so used to the spin, they do it for the club now.

Meanwhile, we finally actually have saved some salary costs with players leaving. So we go get that forward we desperately need then? Nope, still no sign. Just endless speculation of a string of frequently no-mark players in every position but forward.

2016 Part II – with enhancements.

Mike Gaynes
221 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:52:02
Will #220, I would just point out that the club hasn't said anything about anything on transfers until announcing them as completed. Thelwell is a Sphinx on his deals. Nor has the club clarified its position on FFP. Guesswork is all we really have.
Brian Wilkinson
222 Posted 24/08/2022 at 20:00:09
Bill, let's hope it's not the other Ronaldo, although nothing would suprise me anymore.

It makes me wonder in our dealings are we deliberately trying to get Frank the sack, so we can go for an emotional return for Duncan Ferguson, this one tongue firmly in cheek.

Will Mabon
223 Posted 24/08/2022 at 20:13:34
Mike, accepting there being no actual club statement to say "We're in FFP trouble", I feel it's pretty well understood that this is the case. Work by Paul the Esk has reasonably confirmed this by accepted measures and parameters, using the formal accounts. I don't pretend to fully grasp it all (Who does!).

I don't allude to Thelwell in what I said. I'm saying that there has been no statement, no "Insider" reveals, no rumours or anything else to indicate that selling assets was a requirement of the club's squad plans for this season – and yet it's now being widely discussed as almost a given for us to acquire a forward (and God knows who else from the now twice-daily mootings of a string of players in positions for which we already have cover. This said accepting the role of speculation).

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Larry O'Hara
224 Posted 24/08/2022 at 20:44:00
Not YouTube but I just saw Dinamo Zagreb striker Petkovic score a fantastic overhead goal against Bode Glimt. Anybody fancy him? More likely to be available if Bode can rescue the game of course.

Regarding Ronaldo, egotistical prima donna, no team player. But would I have him on loan? In a heartbeat, yes!!!

Ted Donnelly
225 Posted 24/08/2022 at 21:38:06
I saw Lampard talking about the Gordon scenario and for me he looked totally uninterested.

I wouldn't be surprised that, instead of getting sacked, if Gordon goes and no one of note comes in, that he'll walk away saying "Fuck this for a game of soldiers," because at the moment Everton are a joke. No ambition and no direction at all.

Michael Lynch
226 Posted 24/08/2022 at 23:04:34
We're over half-way through the week now, and no sign of anyone incoming. If we do sell Gordon to Chelsea, that's one less player in the squad for Brentford on Saturday.

It's not a problem for Chelsea, they've got a big enough squad not to have to play Gordon til he's ready. We, on the other hand, don't have that luxury.

Even if we signed someone tomorrow, it'd be too late for them to be in contention for our next game, so the forward line would literally pick itself. No Gordon, no Dele, which leaves Rondon, Gray and McNeil up top. There are no alternatives, and no attacking option on the bench. Not even a youngster like Simms or Dobbin.

If we pick up an injury between now and then, we'll have to put Keane in as centre-forward.

What a shambles of a club.

Tony Hill
227 Posted 24/08/2022 at 23:16:08
I'm afraid that's right, Michael. We are putting ourselves into yet another Premier League game without a proper attack. It is characteristic of our dreadful recruitment over recent years but this is a new depth of negligence.

Who else can be to blame but those who direct the Club? They are a continuing disgrace and they are taking us all for fools. At least Moshiri has put big money down. Kenwright and the Professor are stealing it. They have no shame.

Will Mabon
228 Posted 24/08/2022 at 23:27:28
I'm starting to think it's part of a scripted drama, Tony. This looks very like how someone might write it. The perfect mistakes to cause failure seem to follow, one after another, yet looking as a hapless shit show of random incompetence.

"Life in the Top League" season 2022-23, final episode – "Shock and controversy as one of the originals falls!"

Tony Hill
229 Posted 24/08/2022 at 23:37:14
Quite, Will.

I wonder, meantime, what has happened to the Professor's job search? She was exploring pastures new when things were looking dodgy last season, wasn't she?

Perhaps, as with other significant employees we have had (and continue to have) on our books, no-one else is prepared to pay her so much for delivering fuck-all.

Pete Clarke
230 Posted 24/08/2022 at 00:01:35
Time to get the anti-Kenwright banners out, I think, and put some pressure on Moshiri to get shut of him. It's not only Kenwright of course because there are other members of the board who are no more than nodding donkeys and they need to move on to pastures new as well.

Whether Frank Lampard has accepted his fate at Everton that he is under total control by the owner and his sidekick, I don't know... but, with very little time left to bring in a much-needed goalscorer, we are as a club, once again showing the football world how not to do things.

Last season was a near disaster with some of the worst results against poor opposition... and yet here we are facing a long season ahead in a far weaker position, with Rondon (he's older than Roger Millar) leading the line instead of the departed Richarlison, and now we are caught up in a transfer saga with our next best player about to leave.

I can't believe Frank actually plays Rondon but he has been left to deal with the mess by a board that has no ambition and no idea how to run a club properly.

I can only imagine that Kenwright is linked up to Frank's phone with regards to transfers and it's more business talk than football talk going on. No wonder Ancelotti left us.

So where are our goals going to come from this season? Rondon may get a two or three! Gray is already showing that he can possibly get into double figures! There will be a few others who will maybe get one or two and, by the time Calvert-Lewinis up and running, he may get a few but unlikely to be lethal enough to stop us falling into the Championship.

It is going to take a truly great striker coming in and staying fit plus a monumental shift in tactics to get us out of this mess. That's what Lampard has on his shoulders right now to go with the never-ending voice of Kenwright in his ear.

Up the Toffees. Sack the Board.

Mike Gaynes
231 Posted 25/08/2022 at 02:29:59
Will #223, yep, what little I know about FFP is from what I've read in The Esk's multiple analyses. And a good deal of that sailed over my head.
Mike Hayes
233 Posted 25/08/2022 at 08:21:57
Unfortunately the only way to get Moshiri to sit up and take notice is for fans to stay away, citing Kenwright as the cancer that is killing this club. Too many gobshites hanging on to his coattails – but there is no way fans will stay away but, for me, there is no other option. 🤷
James Marshall
234 Posted 25/08/2022 at 09:28:40
We won't sell Gordon this week because we need him for the game on Saturday. We'll sell him on deadline day for so many reasons that are so blatantly obvious that I can't even be arsed to list them.

The paranoia and sense of panic on here is understandably palpable but not really helpful to your own health! I'm pretty sure he'll be sold and the money will be assumed into the coffers of the FFP saga and stadium shenanigans. Then we'll get a couple of last-minute loans and stagger onwards hoping to stay up.

The Internet (papers) are still rife with speculation on over 100 players so I take it all with a huge pinch of salt. Everyone is sucked into the hysteria of the online world and again, it's not good for you to be so involved in such hearsay.

One thing I've noticed this season is that the gaps in teams appear to be smaller – everyone is already beating everyone else, a scenario that helps the shitter teams like us. We definitely look more toothless than anyone else though but I'm not going to get too freaked out unless deadline day passes without at least one decent striker through the doors.

Judge us at the end of the window, wasn't it...

Kevin Molloy
235 Posted 25/08/2022 at 10:17:47
My big concern when it became clear that Moshiri was desperate to sell, was that he would fall back on Option B once he realised how much the club was worth. Option B being, sell the assets to recoup.

Who are the assets? Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin, Gordon and Pickford.

Calvert-Lewin ruled himself out, which left the other three. Richarlison is gone, and right at the start of the window, lots of clubs were linked with Gordon. Out of nowhere. And him and Pickford, despite being our best players, not having had their contracts improved during the last 6 months. So Gordon's on buttons, and Pickford is ticking down to the last 2 years.

As things stand, Moshiri's taking out £110M worth of value out of the side we all watched last season (and the replacements not getting into our first eleven), and Pickford's new contract still remains unsigned. If we'd been told this just after the Palace game, would anyone have thought we would be anywhere but bottom this season?

Pete Clarke
236 Posted 25/08/2022 at 10:36:25
Moshiri is clueless but he did ask us to judge him after deadline day. Tick tock, tick tock, Farhad, the deadline is approaching but, in typical Everton fashion, you are leaving it late to get players in or maybe your happy for Salomon to go it alone and save us. (Money as well!)

We may as well go out with a bang and throw Michael Keane up front. He scored a goal against Palace that any striker would be happy... with or maybe we should try to get the other Kean back and give him a second chance!

Laurel and Hardy springs to mind with these two running our club. “That's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Bill!”

George Stuart
237 Posted 25/08/2022 at 10:50:52
Is it just me or was his body language just a bit off in the Forrest game? Could just be me. He's looked excellent to me in his previous games but this one. I dunno.

The almost allowed VAR refused goal. He was hugely offside and struggled to get on, which he failed at. The 1 on 1 with the keeper, move the ball to the left and toe poke it into an empty net.

3 deflections in 4 goals, £60 million. It's a good deal. Lamenting the departure of an academy product, for sure.

Give Frank the £60 million. But then again he signed Dele Alli. Really???

It's going to be a long season. IGTBALS. Seems apt.

Brian Murray
238 Posted 25/08/2022 at 11:06:03
I'll ask again, when is the cut off for this transfer or or we going to let Chelsea decide our fate this season? A last minute deal doesn't help us one bit and they know it. Draw a line today. It's called being professional and looking after the club.

As for the months of clinging onto this hope of Broja that also is reckless, especially with no Plan B. Even with a Plan B, it's so desperate and amateurish.

Michael Lynch
239 Posted 25/08/2022 at 11:18:00
The club is reporting we've signed Marc Darcy. Not heard of him, but I'm assuming he can play up front?
Tony Abrahams
240 Posted 25/08/2022 at 11:21:40
I think it's going to be or has got to be a big few days with regards Everton and some comings and goings, Brian.

Only one thing seems obvious, though, and that is that we haven't signed a centre-forward, and this leads to the conclusion (to me at least) that Everton need to sell before they buy, or can only operate with clubs who are prepared to really stagger out payment.

Brian Murray
241 Posted 25/08/2022 at 11:31:34

I want to be staggering out the boozer celebrating something (a derby win?) before I'm priced out of the Tories' 9-pounds-a-pint threat.

Staggered payments, as you say, is our only hope unless Gordon actually goes in time, not last minute.

Lester Yip
242 Posted 25/08/2022 at 12:01:37
Brian 238. I feel the same.

Checking the transfer news so often hoping that there will be some certainty. But my mind told me to get the best deal out is probably wait. The one who blinks first loses.

If Chelsea is desperate, they might throw in Gallagher or Broja plus a loan and a large sum. It looks more likely to happen in the last 24 hours. Such a long painful wait for the fans.

Brian Murray
243 Posted 25/08/2022 at 12:09:03
Lester. Chelsea and most clubs we dealing with are in a position of strength or at least not banking on the likes of gordon. If it’s last minute because it suits chelsea or ajax or blackburn or whoever. What if it doesn’t get over the line and we left with rondon. 18 points at least are at stake or more until dcl is ready which in itself is iffy
Alex Gray
244 Posted 25/08/2022 at 12:23:48
I'm guessing we're waiting on the sale of Gordon to pursue some more expensive targets. I've felt largely positive with the window so far apart from McNeil.

Got to admit, though, if this goes to Deadline Day and we have no striker, that's 6 games wasted – not to mention getting said striker up to match fitness and hoping they fit our system.

It's worrying seeing teams strengthen around us. I actually rate our defence and midfield with Onana, Iwobi, Doucouré and hopefully Gana.

Our attack is bad though. With Gordon and Dele gone, our only fit options are Gray, McNeil and Rondon. We need two strikers and a goalscoring winger and that's without injuries that we always get.

We're playing a risky game.

Laurie Hartley
245 Posted 25/08/2022 at 12:25:27
It's like watching grass grow this. How about a few fireworks (on here and on the pitch) – offer to take Morelos on loan from Rangers.
Mike Keating
247 Posted 25/08/2022 at 13:02:47
I see Declan Walsh on Goodison News headlines on NewsNow that the deal has been ‘sealed' in a ‘big money swap transfer'... which turns out to be the ever-reliable Danny Murphy thinking out loud on TalkSport.

I should know better!

Joe McMahon
248 Posted 25/08/2022 at 14:24:53
So no striker in for Saturday. I said 3 weeks ago we won't win any of the first 5 games, I forgot Liverpool is the 6th.

I hope Moshiri and the others will be happy with relegation then. And there was us wanting 60k capacity for the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

Derek Taylor
249 Posted 25/08/2022 at 16:20:22
I guess we are never satisfied.

When Moshiri's naivety let managers and advisers sign players like buying fruit drops, we moaned.

Now Old Uncle Bill is back in the negotiation seat, we accuse him of parsimony!

Who'd be an Everton Chairman? ... Cough!

John Kavanagh
250 Posted 25/08/2022 at 16:57:51
Derek @249.

Chelsea have said they are pursuing their interest and are now 'negotiating at a high level'. The very thought of Blue Bill negotiating any deal fills me with dread. Bet Chelsea are now revising their offer with less cash up front and even more impossible to achieve add-ons, like the ones Leicester have just rejected. Their greatest difficulty will be trying to keep a straight face as Bill works his magic.

We'll now be lucky to come out of all this with £20 million and Ross Barkley as a sweetener, but I'm sure Blue Bill will be delighted with the results of his efforts. Oh and there won't be any time left for signing any decent players before the deadline either. Blue 'What would Everton do' Bill will make sure of that proving to himself what an ace negotiator he is.

Ian Riley
251 Posted 25/08/2022 at 17:05:57
Gordon will be sold! Staggering to think £50-60 million! Hope the lad wins medals! Feel we have to sell and all these stories are far from the truth!

Remember, staying up is an achievement! Those with higher expectations will be disappointed!

We need points. A relegation battle has started, even at this stage!

Kunal Desai
252 Posted 25/08/2022 at 17:08:13
Joe #248. I predicted after our last pre-season game that we'd get 2-3 points from the opening 5 fixtures, that's looking highly generous now and probably won't even be 2/3 points by the time September is over.

7th is Arsenal away, write that off as it will be how many we can keep the score down to and Moyes will come to Goodison and do his usual number on us like the last two seasons.

This club is embarrassing, why are we putting up with this shit every season? Isn't it time to behave like kopites.

Pete Clarke
253 Posted 25/08/2022 at 18:25:23
As supporters of Everton Football Club, we are really going to regret not taking really strong action against Bill Kenwright. He's a constant reminder of failure and also a thorn in the side of any manager who is trying to make progress.

If it's relegation that finally leads to his departure, then we may not have long to wait.

Next home game should be a full-on show of dislike for Kenwright with his "good times" quote rammed down his neck. No more light-hearted approach as we are in a perilous state right now and need a change of board.

Moshiri should not be exempt from criticism but he has put a lot of money in even without having a genuine love for the club. His biggest mistake was allowing a so-called great Evertonian to stay on at the club and it's difficult to fathom why he has stuck by Kenwright.

Letting another one of our promising local lads go is sickening to me, regardless of the size of the fee, because he gave us an identity. This doesn't seem to matter to our owners.

Brian Murray
254 Posted 25/08/2022 at 18:38:22

As was the other month at the protest don't get the message mixed and even mention the owner because the malaise is because of one man and all he employs and all he believes in from the 20th Century. It's not, repeat not, the owner.

He entrusted his empire to a supposed football man with a business acumen who would make sure this club kept well away from FFP restrictions plus getting a savvy CEO whose remit is to have a vision and earn the club money with decent sponsorship and marketing. Same as any top or even mid-team club. The opposite of all that is happening.

Neil Copeland
255 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:05:52
Sky Sports News are claiming there will be “developments” in the next few hours regarding Gordon going to Chelsea.
Brian Murray
256 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:16:08
Gordon deal on the go. Aubameyang close to Chelsea deal...

Maybe this may be a decent weekend after all. Not counting on the pitch though unless we can sneak a draw.

Now or never, surely, over Broja.

Dale Self
257 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:19:57
So our terms on wanting Broja as part of the deal required Chelsea to get Aubameyang before they would agree the Gordon combo deal.

I imagine Robert, Sam and Paul the Esk would all have to do mushrooms and some dark arts ritual to come up with a flow chart that would make sense of all our options and contingent deals.

Kieran Kinsella
258 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:28:44

If we sell him, I sincerely hope it's not tonight or tomorrow right before the Brentford game as, when you look at our lack of goals so far, we'd be sans two more attackers against a team that tend to have old-fashioned highest-scoring shoot-outs.

Unless of course Tommy Cannon and Isaac Price have suddenly made a quantum leap forward this week in their development.

Shane Corcoran
259 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:29:48
Neil, perhaps a biro lid removed, a throat cleared or a bowel movement relieved.
Neil Copeland
260 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:33:45

I was thinking similar. Our front three would be Gray, McNeil and Rondon I think. No problem with Gray but McNeil needs time to settle and Rondon, jeez……

Neil Copeland
261 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:35:18
Shane, ha ha, yes that sounds about right. Maybe it's someone getting the coffees in (not Kenwright obviously).
Shane Corcoran
262 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:38:35
The Transfer Show on Sky Sports News is more Partridge than Partridge.

Kieran Kinsella
263 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:40:27

I just saw the original report said Sky would have an update at 7pm. Well, that was 40 minutes ago.

Wouldn't Bill be settled in for the night by now watching Corrie anyway?

Brian Murray
264 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:43:09
Too late for Saturday so Cannon should be at least on the bench. Desperate maybe or maybe make a name for himself.
Neil Copeland
265 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:58:35
Brian, I don't think he would be any worse than Rondon. May even make a name for himself, who knows.

I'd much rather us take a risk (albeit a huge one) than just revert to the same old toothless crap we have seen so far.

Kieran Kinsella
266 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:25:26

To your point, we've rolled the dice out of desperation in the past and done okay with Cadamarteri, and Chadwick neither of whom, like Jeffers or Rooney, were really seen as long-term solutions.

Granted, they didn't make it long-term but they both popped up with some important goals while driven by the exuberance of youth.

Neil Copeland
267 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:32:36
Kieran, I agree mate.

Tom Cannon is full of confidence at the moment and we are creating chances. If he comes in and scores only a couple of goals it may just be enough to make a difference. The chances are that it will be too soon for him but as I stated above we need to do something different.

Having said all that, Sky Sports News reporting that we are not yet willing to sell Gordon and are pursuing a striker through a separate deal (Brereton Diaz?)

Brian Murray
268 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:38:12
Young unknown Jeffers kept us up, along with Campbell.

Cannon can finish and, as has been said, Rondon is like playing with 10 men, he's that bad.

Joe McMahon
269 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:41:42
Brian, true but it was a different and easier league over 20 years ago. Here and now, many teams are full of goals?
Denis Richardson
270 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:52:29
Well, looks like an incredible 4th game with no one but Rondon to lead the line. The Gordon transfer seems to me to hang on Chelsea sorting other transfers out so they're in no rush to do us a favour in the striker dept. Must be too late to sign someone who can play Saturday.

Our defence is better but I just can't see us causing Brentford any problems and Gordon will presumably not be in the squad. Forecast a narrow defeat 1-0 or 2-1 (own goal for us). Plucky Everton, lot of huff and puff but toothless at the end of the day.

I predict one point from 4 games, doesn't not make pretty reading, especially when only 1 of those games has been against a top 6 side. Early days but we're going to need a really good run of results at some point before Xmas otherwise the anxiety of relegation will start to hang like a thick fog.

Really didn't see us being where we are now, even a month ago – I never learn.

Brian Murray
271 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:52:42

I just want frank to see beyond Rondon and don't fall into Benitez's mindset.

Joe McMahon
272 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:58:16
I understand, Brian, we as fans have had our full share of shite for decades.

I'm just shaking my head here but sharing a city with a trophy hunting club just rubs it all in.

Brian Murray
273 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:58:49

Exactly. Have a cut-off for the Gordon saga this weekend instead of letting them dictate the speed of it.

Or even try a Levy and ask for £70M, lol. Is Kenwright that savvy? Okay, stupid question.

Dale Self
274 Posted 25/08/2022 at 21:42:07
Oh no, the rest of us are calling a tailor and we're getting you both a custom fit. Frankly, both are good lines.
Neil Copeland
275 Posted 25/08/2022 at 21:55:47
Not sure what to believe really as there are lots of different outlets reporting that we are close to signing Brereton Diaz also.

I have never been overly impressed by Maupay but I know next to nothing about Brereton Diaz. So, don't know whether to start getting excited or not!

Terry Downes
276 Posted 25/08/2022 at 22:01:06
If Chelsea want him that bad, I'd take Broja and Gallagher in a swop? No-brainer to me.
Michael Lynch
277 Posted 26/08/2022 at 10:36:48
Lampard says there has been no £60M offer from Chelsea, so Gordon is going nowhere for the moment. Hopefully he plays on Saturday.

On another note, he gave the impression that Lewis Warrington will go out on loan again which I think is a shame. I know he needs the minutes, but he looks a lovely footballer.

Also, Frank seems certain that we will be bringing a striker in.

Tony Everan
278 Posted 26/08/2022 at 11:46:06
On Gordon, Frank’s saying “they haven’t bid £60M”. So it’s a much lesser fee, plus unwanted deadwood, plus add-ons?

Sick to death of this now, time to tell Chelsea to do one and keep him if they don’t like our terms.

Dave Cashen
279 Posted 24/08/2022 at 12:34:15
I don't know if any Evertonian who would hang into the words of a young boy. They didn't take Gordon to their hearts because he said he loved the club. Any player can do that. They took him to their hearts because he showed them.

Speaking to the press. Frank said he had worked with top-class youngsters at Derby and Chelsea. Players with a current value of around £100m. His verdict? "Anthony is in that bracket".

It's difficult to understand why we have fans so ready to trade a young thoroughbred for one or more of the carthorses being spouted.

Frank sees him every day and is desperate to keep him. As are the Goodison Park faithful. that encourages me. Get a decent striker, (not another journeyman) and keep our best player.

Colin Glassar
280 Posted 26/08/2022 at 12:46:12
Rumours are starting to circulate about Michael Keane to Nottingham Forrest. I’ll carry him there if needed.
Jamie Crowley
281 Posted 26/08/2022 at 13:01:27
Well, on the bright side, I'll probably be tuning into Sky Sports on Deadline Day this window.

All of this seems to be dragging out in eternity. I was impatient a week ago. Now I'm just complacent. Whatever happens, happens. All I know is we need 3 points on the weekend.

Christine Foster
282 Posted 26/08/2022 at 13:46:57
Lampard was more relaxed and himself at the press conference, such a difference from his last one. Perhaps signing a striker has put his mind at ease. let's hope it does the same for us!

Re Gordon, still our player and they haven't bid £60M... sounds as if it's a case of some cash and players as makeweights. By the sound of it, we probably don't want who is offered or don't agree with the valuation... could be Gordon isn't going anywhere.

Philip Bunting
283 Posted 26/08/2022 at 16:37:30
Did Gordon ask to leave? – is the question... for me, it speaks volumes.

If so, get rid, no sentiment here, cannot stand the double standard of acting like the big clubman, big blue etc etc, but in reality looking out. Most of us would play for buttons to have the opportunity of pulling on that blue shirt.

Everton made Gordon, not the other way round, so I would like to know the facts here as it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Gordon, Everton... sort it out, please.

Stephen Graham
284 Posted 26/08/2022 at 18:53:47
Michael Lynch
285 Posted 26/08/2022 at 19:53:58
Yes Stephen, @284 but perhaps not so much "fun" as "fucking depressing".

As Barney says in his piece:

"Even if Gordon stays, Everton will have had five league matches with this noise buzzing around their best young player. And in the end the real question Gordon to Chelsea raises is the most basic one: what is the point these days of Everton Football Club? Is it to compete, to strive through smart moves and homegrown talent to match the top tier? Or simply to service those entities, to exist as a backdrop?"

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