Lampard issues 'red line' warning to Chelsea over Gordon

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Frank Lampard has challenged Chelsea to come up with an offer Everton can't refuse for Anthony Gordon well before next Thursday's transfer deadline or forget about signing the Blues' winger.

The Londoners have had two well-publicised offers of £42m and £45m rejected for Gordon but, while there have been media reports of informal chatter between the two clubs about a potential bid of £60m, it hasn't progressed beyond that, possibly because the structure of any proposed deal doesn't suit Everton.

The situation has the potential to run to the end of the transfer window but the Toffees' manager says that neither he nor his new club will allow things to go that far.

In comments made in the print media portion of his press conference ahead of tomorrow's trip to Brentford, Lampard insinuated that, unless Chelsea were prepared to make a concrete move for Gordon this weekend, there would be no further discussion on the matter. 

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That is because Lampard and Everton will need as much time as possible to secure replacement players before Thursday's 11 pm deadline.

“It is absolutely not happening at this point and that is where we are at," Lampard emphasised. "The situation we are in [now is] Anthony is not leaving this club.

"There absolutely has to come a time where we have to understand what the squad is going to be and especially a player of the level of Anthony, I have to know he is going be here. We are at that situation. We have drawn a red line.

“In seriousness, there is that point and I won’t say where it is but I think you understand I am getting very close to it.

“This has to be a positive for Anthony. My feeling is Anthony is going to be a top, top player for club and country and these are all experiences he is going to gather over his career so what he will have to do is just take those experiences and get a bit better for them.

“He just has to get his head down and keep working the way he is working and the way he has done since I have been here and his career is going to go in one direction after that.”



Quotes sourced from The Independent



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Tony Abrahams
1 Posted 27/08/2022 at 00:39:21
Interesting comments, and hard to know if he’s calling Chelsea’s bluff, or just hasn’t got any interest in selling Anthony Gordon, unless they give Everton a massive amount of money, and maybe a player or two.

Jay Harris
2 Posted 27/08/2022 at 00:54:12
Tony,

I think Frank is trying to outflank them. He really does not want to lose Anthony but realizes what he could do with c £50M and a couple of loanees from Chelsea.

However, I really believe he has a plan and Anthony is part of that so, in his own way, he is pushing Chelsea away.

Paul Kossoff
3 Posted 27/08/2022 at 01:02:30
I think Gordon will still be here after Thursday. Chelsea are taking the piss now and think we can be walked over.

Tell them to do one, Frank! £60 million and a loan player.

Pete Clarke
4 Posted 27/08/2022 at 01:48:16
Hard to know what's really going on behind the scenes. Maybe they were offering X amount with the rest to follow after appearances which doesn't help with us getting more players in and also doesn't satisfy Moshiri and Kenwright who want some hard cash.

Either way, if it doesn't happen, then I know I'll be happy for him to stay. There will be a lot going on in his head though so hopefully he can shake that off and perform on the pitch to show us what we would have missed.

I would much rather we were in a position to have told Chelsea "He's not for sale, full stop" and instead it was us making an offer for one of their bright stars. Where did all Moshiri's money go, I wonder?

Larry O'Hara
5 Posted 27/08/2022 at 01:52:17
Very pleased Frank is playing hardball.
Kieran Kinsella
6 Posted 27/08/2022 at 01:56:20
Tony,

It reminds me a little bit of how Moyes reacted to Man City's courting of Lescott. In that instance, Joleon sort of forced Moyes's hand with that lacklustre effort v Arsenal.

Hopefully Anthony is too professional to pull that stunt. Let's not forget Man Utd and Moyes wanted Fellaini and Baines. Rumour had it they both wanted to go but one demanded to leave, the other got on with his job and honoured his contract.

James Flynn
7 Posted 27/08/2022 at 02:15:39
Have to take Frank's side.

Gordon default is the First XI and Frank wants Chelsea (or whoever else) to shit or get off the pot. He needs to settle his squad and it's much easier to do keeping young Anthony than waiting on some maybe/maybe not from an opposing club.

As for waiting to the last minute, Roberto Martinez pulled off that Barry, Lukaku, McCarthy coup at the last minute. Deal made that 13-14 season.

Bernie Quinn
8 Posted 27/08/2022 at 02:58:29
I am certain that Frank wants Gordon to remain at Everton. Despite media posts, I don't believe that Gordon wants to leave the Club.

As Frank says, Chelsea have not yet increased their offer, so quite rightly he is calling their bluff. After all, he is building up his squad and can't wait until the last moment for Chelsea to stop playing silly buggers.

What I would really like to see is the club openly state that Gordon is not for sale and give him a new contract with a good increase in salary. But as usual, that numpty "Luvvy Bill" is bound to interfere.

Julian Wait
9 Posted 27/08/2022 at 03:18:13
Can't fault Frank here. We know everyone has a price, at the right time. It's already a minute to midnight.

£60M plus £10M in realistic add-ons, plus Broja on loan to buy and Gallagher on loan.

Otherwise, see ya next season….

Kieran Kinsella
10 Posted 27/08/2022 at 03:28:18
Bernie,

Yes, I think it's weird the whole “Gordon wants to leave” thing is based on him not signing a new deal when he has three years left as it is and no one has said whether we offered him a good deal or an extra 50p. His performances certainly don't reflect someone sulking and seeking an exit.

Bernie Quinn
11 Posted 27/08/2022 at 03:46:20
Thanks, Kieran, I hate all these media and pundits rumours. I'm just concerned that numpty Bill's eyes are glistening with the thought of £60M coming in and will sell Gordon without conferring with Frank.

I wish Christine would add her twopennyworth to this thread – I would be interested in her opinion.

Christine Foster
12 Posted 27/08/2022 at 05:31:23
Well, Bernie, for what's it's worth, which is diddly squat, I think Frank is spot on: put up or shut up.

The fact is it's obvious they haven't offered cash to anything like that but stacked the deal with players they want to get off their books. (Our crap can be your crap and we will tell you what a fabulous deal it is!)

Perverse really; if we take it, we will have no money and a couple of extra players costing us couple of hundred thousand a week for the next 3 years, not playing and then we are stuck with them!

Have I got a deal for you! Money talks, Frank, Gordon goes nowhere unless they come up with the readies.

I do like this manager... heart on his sleeve.

Jerome Shields
13 Posted 27/08/2022 at 06:26:52
This gives a bit of realism to the situation. Gordon can stay if Everton don't get what they want and the media speculation turns more realistic going into the final week.
Brian Williams
14 Posted 27/08/2022 at 06:27:22
We can't have two loan players from Chelsea as we already have one player on loan (Coady) from an English club.

Ideally, IMO, we'd get Gallagher on loan as part of the deal and then we'd have money to buy Ben Brereton Diaz outright and have plenty left over to help with FFP.

If that happened, I think we'd have had the best transfer window in a long, long time.

Brent Stephens
15 Posted 27/08/2022 at 07:10:28
Nice article in today's Guardian "Gordon to Chelsea: nonexistent transfer that encapsulates a grotesque industry". Describes 5 stages of a failed transfer: excitement, denial, blame, grief and finally acceptance.

Makes the point that Chelsea already have 7 players in Gordon's position "all of whom are probably better". It says Gordon is already in the right place; he will play and improve; moving to Chelsea will threaten this.

"What is the point these days of Everton FC" is a final question raised!! The suggestions are interesting.

Brent Stephens
16 Posted 27/08/2022 at 07:17:38
Ciarán McGlone
17 Posted 27/08/2022 at 07:18:50
If wish people who stop going on about Gallagher. There's no place for him in Frank's default set-up.

Interesting question, Brent... What is the point? 40 years of misery with the odd moment of euphoria. Strange old affliction this.

Brent Stephens
18 Posted 27/08/2022 at 07:21:52
Ciaran, I wish I knew the answer, mate! Just about to take my two hamsters for a walk and listen to what they predict about today's game.
Bernie Quinn
19 Posted 27/08/2022 at 07:55:14
Thanks, Christine, for your reply. I feel better now as I must be saying the right things as you seem to agree with me!

Brent @18, According to The Hitch-hiker's Guide To The Galaxy, the ultimate answer is 42. You're just asking the wrong question.

Brent Stephens
20 Posted 27/08/2022 at 08:24:25
Bernie - I'm slowly making my way to 42.

I have a good feeling about today - just hope Gordon's mind is in the right place.

Ciarán McGlone
21 Posted 27/08/2022 at 08:26:09
ps: Block Chelsea's number.
Jim Lloyd
22 Posted 27/08/2022 at 08:45:35
I don't know this writer from The Guardian so I've not read any articles from him before.

What he's written seems to be a) an assumption that Chelsea haven't made a bid; and b) If they have made a bid, why would they want to when they've got loads of players better than him? and c) Everton FC would be stupid to sell him anyway... and d) he might regret it as he wastes away in some football wasteland.

I think I'd rather see what Frank writes and wait to see what happens.

As for this feller's assertions that Everton are a feeder club, somehow existing to fill the football gobs of the Top 6, that is mindboggling.

We all know why we're in this position. EFC have spent half a billion £s on a dysfunctional procession of managers and players. To the extent that we are now financially straight-jacketed by the P&S and maybe the FFP rules and that we are still in danger of relegation. It looks very much like we have to sell, so that we can reinforce the squad.

Whether we think he's the best player in our team or not, and whether Chelsea have actually made a bid or "expressed an interest", thereby unsettling the player... who knows?

I'd view his sale (if it happens) as allowing us to bring in up to three or four players who will help us to move away from relegation; and stay away. That is the first step to rebuilding a squad that nearly saw us drop into the Championship.

Tony Everan
23 Posted 27/08/2022 at 08:58:47
Well done to Frank, he is putting our best interests first here. It's time for Chelsea to put up or shut up.

I see it that Frank wants Armando Broja or Gallagher as part of this deal. If not, we will reluctantly accept that, as long as Chelsea pay the full price in cash. We don't want Barkley etc as makeweights.

The (midnight Sunday?) deadline is very fair as we need to sign players, who themselves may want to come here but will also have other options on the table. They will be demanding some answers and, if they are not forthcoming, we may lose out on those targets.

Stick to your guns Frank. If we can get the rumoured non-Chelsea targets in, Diaz and Garner this weekend, Gueye coming in to replace the outgoing Allan and keep Anthony Gordon, we will be good.

Iakovos Iasonidis
24 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:06:27
I don't think Gordon is shit but I surely don't believe he is the player the majority thinks.

My opinion is the transfer money mentioned are way more than his quality or potential. £60 mil?? Are we fucking kidding? £60 mil and a player? If true, these prices are crazy and we would be total morons if we don't accept them!

I like what Lampard is saying, he smells blood and wants the very most for an asset of ours. Reinvesting this money into the team with young, hungry, high potential players is the right way. Sell one in order to buy three or four.

Ciarán McGlone
25 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:15:25
There is no £60 mill bid...
Sam Hoare
26 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:29:55
Personally, I'd sell him for £50m plus but, if he stays (which sounds likely at this point), then it will be interesting to see whether he is a £60M player or a £16M player in 2 or 3 years time.
Trevor Peers
27 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:33:37
I'd say this deal is now dead. Chelsea would've improved their offer to £50 million plus add-ons amounting to a possible £60 million, but don't want to offer any players on loan in return. Something Lampard was insisting on.

We might live to regret not taking the money as it would've solved a lot of problems including FFP issues. Now he's almost certainly staying, hopefully we can gain from some of the benefits of the talent Gordon is said to possess. I'm talking about goals and assists! That's what Gordon will be judged on.

Let's hope he's as good as Chelsea and others think he is; otherwise, by the end of the season, his value will of plummeted and we will look like the biggest mugs in the Premier League, as usual.

Brian Murray
28 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:34:16
I cursed Lampard as Chelsea manager when he wouldn't play ball over Zouma, he knows when to dig in, so fair play on that.
Mick Roberts
29 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:59:54
Anthony Gordon loves this club and I have no doubt he will give his all if a deal is not done.
Kevin Molloy
30 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:04:38
Gordon is not worth £60m to Chelsea, but I reckon he is to us.

The reason they sat up and took notice was the game last season, when he charged around like a lunatic. And he did that cos he's invested in this club the way Calvert-Lewin and Holgate never will be.

And if he moves to Chelsea they won't get out of him that same commitment. Certainly we can keep him for another three years, and still sell him for a bomb. What's the bleeding hurry? He kept us up last season, and this season is looking equally perilous.

Alan J Thompson
31 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:20:10
And have we heard anything from the DoF or is this "good cop, bad cop"?
Johan Elmgren
32 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:29:13
There's a lot of debating in the tabloid press about the (supposed) fee of £50M + £10M, that it is ridiculously high, way too high for Gordon, and that we should snap their hand off. Pundits and reporters complaining that it's an outrageous fee...

The same tabloid press reports are saying that Chelsea are agreeing a fee with Leicester for Fofana slightly below £80m, but there are no questionmarks about that fee. No-one saying he is over-priced...

I don't get it. Why? In my eyes a good forward is harder to find than a good defender. Sure, Gordon hasn't produced goals and assists in any amounts yet, but you can clearly see he has the potential. Goals and assists often come with experience.

The pace, the nutmegs, the control is already there and are an indication of his potential. There should be no debating over £60M being too much, in my eyes it's too low... but I guess only time will tell if he'll be worth more.

But as a comparison, Jadon Sancho for example, last season when he was 21, had 3 goals and 3 assists in the Premier League and cost Utd £76.5M. The Premier League isn't an easy place to produce for young players. The clubs that spend those amounts on young players, aren't paying for the finished product, they are paying for potential...

Brian Harrison
33 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:46:50
After yesterday's press conference, Lampard stated that the figure offered by Chelsea was nowhere near £60 million, so the press can now stop printing this fictitious figure. But equally Lampard didn't say he won't be sold – only that he is our player (for now) – or try and kill the prospect of him going. So I take it that, if Chelsea put the right package together between now and next Wednesday, then Gordon will be gone.

Who would have thought that, 6 years ago, when we got our much-wanted billionaire owner, we would again be back in the position of having to sell our best players, Richarlison and possibly Gordon? The manager is having to buy players that were only probably 5th or 6th on his list of players he would like.

I am sure if he had really wanted Maupay he would have done this deal weeks ago, not wait till Fulham were near signing him. I think the next few days will be important as, unless the striker position is addressed, I think if it isn't, it will leave a team that doesn't score many even more exposed.

I know Lampard said Calvert-Lewin might be back training with the first team next week, but after a long layoff last season and picking up another injury, they will be very cautious of getting him back playing again. Another injury to Calvert-Lewin, and with only having Rondon or Maupay, it will be very precarious.

Mark Ryan
34 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:53:04
We were told he'd asked to leave. Many were saying "Fuck of AG"

We were told they'd bid £50-£60 million and many said "bite their hands off"& many said "he's not worth that".

Frank then says there is no bid and quite rightly we say "Well done, Frank" for finally letting us know what the hell is going on, which now seems very little.

Are we now saying that he's still got Everton on his Instagram account or has it all been removed? Such a shame that we as supporters are so badly informed about our club. I'd be very happy to keep the lad. I hope he stays. He's worth more to the club than the money.

The huge shame is that Frank has nit been playing him and protecting him in case he gets a massive bid did come in for him and then he gets injured. I hope he plays today and scores and we say "Not For Sale"

Brian Harrison
35 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:57:20
Mark @34,

I agree with all you say, but Lampard wouldn't answer when asked "Had Gordon said he would like to move to Chelsea?"

So I guess he and Lampard have obviously spoken about the interest from Chelsea, and I think, if the deal is right for Everton and Lampard, Anthony sadly will be sold.

Robert Williams
36 Posted 27/08/2022 at 11:03:42
If not Chelsea then who? Spurs in with a crafty bid – wouldn't put anything past that slimy Levy.
Danny Baily
37 Posted 27/08/2022 at 11:28:53
Robert, there was a comment in The Guardian that this was a statement signing for the new Chelsea owner, and that statement was that he doesn't know what he's doing.

There won't be any other top clubs in for him, and no-one else will pay this kind of fee. If and when the offer lands, I say take it.

Mark Ryan
38 Posted 27/08/2022 at 11:46:01
I think Frank will refuse or walk, I really do. I think he believes that Anthony Gordon is that important.

He knows in 2 seasons he has the potential to be excellent and by then, with the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, we will have overcome our FFP fiasco.

Neil Copeland
39 Posted 27/08/2022 at 11:50:32
I see Chelsea have reached a reported ‘verbal' agreement if £70M with Leicester for Fofana.

Seems like a lot of money to me.

I think Frank is a decent bloke who doesn't want to be seen misleading supporters hence the no denial approach. Chelsea have probably put out the £60M figure themselves to fuel the media and gauge reaction. They seem to have adopted a similar approach to the Cucurella and Fofana deals/bids.

If we can bring in Brereton, Garner and Gana without having to sell Gordon, then that would be amazing business. But, assuming we paid £15M for Maupay plus £12M for Brereton and say £6M for Gana, where is the money coming from given that we have already bought McNeill and Onana?

Unless there is something else happening that none of us are aware of or the Arteta and Kings Dock money has suddenly appeared, I simply can't see how we do those deals without selling Gordon.

Also, if Chelsea were to actually bid. £60M upfront can we realistically turn that offer down? Personally, I would prefer to keep Gordon but the club is bigger than any single player and if his sale helps keep us in the Premier League then so be it (as an alternative to us being relegated when keeping him – may not happen of course).

Mark Ryan
40 Posted 27/08/2022 at 11:57:38
Richarlison and Gordon kept us up last year and so yes, he can help keep us up moving forward. His passion counts for a lot.

Fuck off ,Chelsea, we're Everton. How does that sound?

Robert Tressell
41 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:01:44
Neil, I don't think we'll show any further interest in Brereton Diaz. He's too similar to Maupay.

If we sell Gordon, I would hope we invest the money in someone who, like him, has the ability to be a Champions League quality player.

Neil Copeland
42 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:02:07
Mark, sounds good to me!

UTFT

Neil Copeland
43 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:18:21
Robert, I am not particularly well clued up on players styles so thanks for the information.

We still seem to be getting linked with Guirassy or maybe, as many have said already, Broja remains the real target. In which case the whole Gordon scenario may just be part of the transfer game.

I think I read somewhere today that Aubameyang to Chelsea is in danger of falling through, if so, unless they have someone else in mind, I think that would make a deal for Broja less likely.

Jerome Shields
44 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:29:16
Brent# 16

Thanks for the link. For me, the most telling part of that article is:

'What is the point these days of Everton Football Club? Is it to compete, to strive through smart moves and homegrown talent to match the top tier? Or simply to service those entities( top six clubs) to exist as a backdrop?'

I don't think this move is in Gordon's interest and, even if Everton do get a inflated transfer price, it will only support a existing self-servicing underperforming structure, not the play on the pitch.

Trevor Peers
46 Posted 27/08/2022 at 13:19:19
Saying Gordon will be good in 2 years time is farcical, I've heard that ridiculous argument before about Barkley and Davies. We need Gordon to provide and score goals, goals, goals! this season, otherwise we should cash in on him.

Frank obviously thinks he will provide something special, if he does stay, so let's see if he's right. It's a huge gamble on his part and Gordon has a lot to live up to after all the hype, starting today at Brentford. Good luck to him I hope he scores a hat-rick !

Tony Abrahams
47 Posted 27/08/2022 at 14:01:03
Every time I see a picture of Bill Kenwright or read something about the man which is connected to Everton, I think I have the answer to that question, which was posed in that article Brent.


David West
48 Posted 27/08/2022 at 14:14:10
Brian 35
I think Lampard has adopted the honesty approach. He's not denied bids have been made, not denied that Gordon may leave, not denied that all players have a value.

I think he would have adopted the same approach with Gordon, we may never know but I'd say their conversion goes like :
FL - Ant, we don't want to sell you we want you to stay.
AG - I don't want to leave I'm happy I'm a blue.
FL - But if the money gets too silly, we will have to consider it Ant.
AG - I understand after all I'm a blue and know the shit we are in financially, still don't want to go to them Cockney twats.

I think that's the real issue, that he has no desire to play for Chelsea, it may be different if it was city after him and he could carry on living at home and commute to Manny.

Johan Elmgren
50 Posted 28/08/2022 at 12:35:11
According to a report in Football Insider, Chelsea are now contemplating a bid of £25M + Broja and Gallagher.

Don't know how trustworthy that site is, but I'd take that if it was offered... Much as I love Anthny Gordon and would like him to stay, getting that amount + two players with great potential is too good to turn down!

Iakovos Iasonidis
51 Posted 28/08/2022 at 13:18:53
As mentioned:

"Chelsea have offered a new solution of midfielder Gallagher and striker Broja plus £25m in exchange for Gordon"

If true, that would be great piece of business!

Martin Clark
52 Posted 28/08/2022 at 13:33:41
Totally agree Johan. I think that offer would be impossible to turn down. Both players are already full internationals and are of similar age and potential to Gordon with a bonus £25M on top.
Frank Crewe
53 Posted 28/08/2022 at 13:37:05
"Chelsea have offered a new solution of midfielder Gallagher and striker Broja plus £25m in exchange for Gordon"
Bite their hand off before they come to their senses.
Frank Crewe
54 Posted 28/08/2022 at 13:37:06
"Chelsea have offered a new solution of midfielder Gallagher and striker Broja plus £25m in exchange for Gordon"
Bite their hand off before they come to their senses.
Tony Hill
55 Posted 28/08/2022 at 13:39:37
I doubt very much that this is true. Apart from anything else, would either Gallagher or Broja wish to come to us?
Johan Elmgren
56 Posted 28/08/2022 at 14:00:55
Yes, it has a sense of "clickbait" to it, so probably not true.

On the point of them wanting to join us, it's hard to tell, but Lampard could be a draw, plus the prospect of being first-team players, instead of bit-part players...

Tony Everan
57 Posted 28/08/2022 at 14:51:43
More clickbait nonsense, like the £60M that Frank said was not true. These websites just can't help themselves.
Justin Doone
58 Posted 28/08/2022 at 17:03:13
Any deal has to include permanent incoming players.

No Loans!

Otherwise, it's a £70M plus add-ons.

Brian Williams
59 Posted 28/08/2022 at 17:14:08
Broja, Gallagher and £25M?

Who the fuck makes this stuff up – then has the audacity to publish it?

Brian Wilkinson
60 Posted 28/08/2022 at 17:26:23
If that deal was on offer Brian I would snatch their hands off for those two players plus cash, we can but dream.
Brian Williams
61 Posted 28/08/2022 at 17:55:22
Me too Brian. As the saying goes I'd drive him to London myself. That deal would solve two problems in one go.
I just wish it WAS true mate.
Danny Baily
62 Posted 28/08/2022 at 19:18:45
I reckon we're done with the transfer market this window, with the possible exception of a Gordon exit and anyone involved in that deal.
Tony Hill
63 Posted 28/08/2022 at 19:24:59
Correct, Danny@14. If you do the sums, we're finished with our business. Gordon is staying.

Is that a good situation? No.

Paul Kossoff
64 Posted 28/08/2022 at 00:00:33
Chelsea just offered Gallaghar, Broja and £25 million for Godfrey.
Pete Clarke
65 Posted 29/08/2022 at 00:26:49
Paul.

I’m assuming the G is the only letter that’s correct in the players name there ?

If not then that is a bite their hands off moment.

Lee Jackson
66 Posted 29/08/2022 at 00:47:54
Pete, for that offer, I would suggest they can have any player in our squad regardless of letters in their names :-)
Jay Harris
67 Posted 29/08/2022 at 00:59:27
Paul,

Sorry to tell you but both clubs have said that is a total fabrication.

Chelsea have not come back for Gordon and are allegedly looking at Zaha now.

Denis Richardson
68 Posted 29/08/2022 at 09:04:16
Beeb saying Gordon for Broja, Gallagher and £25M.

Don’t care if Gordon scored last game personally I think that is one hell of an offer from Chelsea. I’d bite their arm off.

Effectively paying £35m for Broja and Gallagher. Compare that to paying £20N for just McNeil….

Kevin Prytherch
69 Posted 29/08/2022 at 09:07:43
Is Broja any good?
Neil Thomas
70 Posted 29/08/2022 at 10:17:49
Chris #14

That as about as much legs as a snake. Are we seriously going to believe that Chelsea are going to offer us, one player, who’s value is equal to Gordon’s, then give us a striker, when they haven’t got one themselves, and be stupid enough to splash out £25m on top. Lol give it a rest.

The Gordon deal won’t be going through this window. And certainly not at those prices.

Denis Richardson
71 Posted 29/08/2022 at 10:24:21
Kevin 28, time will tell with Broja, he's only 20.

He's well over 6ft, has pace and good feet. Had a half-decent season in a poor Southampton side last year. His first in the prem.

If we're looking to the future and want to bring in a decent if a bit raw striker to lead the line you could do a lot worse imo. If he's effectively costing £17.5M and ticks the home grown box (been at Chelsea since he was a kid) it's a no brainer for me. I can't see us losing money longer term.

Gallagher had a great season last year on loan, we should definitely sign him to add quality to the midfield.

Broja be good competition for Calvert-Lewin, also as he's now quite I jury probe (I'm assuming Calvert-Lewin won't be at Everton next season as it is).

Rob Halligan
72 Posted 29/08/2022 at 10:25:42
Many Twitter accounts now saying it's highly unlikely that Anthony Gordon will be moving to Chelsea.

I'm really undecided about this one, do I want him to move for the ridiculous sums allegedly being offered, or do I want him to stay and hopefully become the player we all hope he can be? Many Twitter accounts just talk a load of bollocks anyway, so let's see what happens in the next four days.

Meanwhile, another Twitter account saying Man Utd have made enquiries about Anthony Gordon. Who are they going to offer in any deal, Wan Bissaka and Phil Jones?? Doubt this rumour to be true anyway, but I'd be telling them to shove their enquiry where the sun don't shine.

Ian Edwards
73 Posted 29/08/2022 at 10:27:59
Latest word is that Chelsea no longer want Gordon... which means we have no money for any further signings.
Kevin Molloy
74 Posted 29/08/2022 at 10:34:59
Take Gordon out of that side and I would say we are near certainties for the drop. We have to keep him. I can't believe we are even contemplating it.

We don't need the money, the squad as it is, is sufficient. He's just going to get better and better. More goals, more assists, superb work rate, and a boyhood Evertonian. We'd be fucking nuts to sell him.

Robert Tressell
75 Posted 29/08/2022 at 10:54:39
Ian # 69.

We've already bought 6 players – which is a lot to bed into a squad.I wouldn't be too down-hearted if there are no more incoming players.

Gordon is as likely to score/create as many as Broja. Allan is broadly the same standard as Gueye. There's still a chance of loans too if we really need more.

With Maupay on board and Calvert-Lewing etting closer to fitness, we should be on course to pick up enough points for a mid-table finish. That, sadly, is progress.

This season isn't about glory, it's about building the foundations for something special in a year or two from now.

Bill Watson
76 Posted 29/08/2022 at 10:57:44
Kevin #70,

I totally agree and can't believe those who say we should bite Chelsea's hand off. What for? Some cash and a couple of makeweights they no longer want in exchange for one of the brightest English prospects with skill, pace and a tremendous work ethic? Madness.

Chris James
77 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:06:52
Gallagher and Broja plus £25M, if true, is a total no-brainer. Gordon is decent and, under different circumstances, I'd keep him, but we need forwards and goalscorers (which fits the 2 mentioned).

I'd also take Pereira given the chance. He was class for a very poor West Brom side.

Rob Halligan
78 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:07:36
Robert # 71.

Tend to agree with most of what you say in your post, but I do feel another striker is essential, even if it's only a loan. To have only two out-and-out strikers (hopefully Rondon is moved on) is dicing with death, seeing as Calvert-Lewin has been having injury problems for the past 12 months. If he breaks down again, we are left with Maupay (and Rondon) and Gordon is definitely not an out-and-out striker.

Surely we can scrape together £15M for Ben Diaz if that's what Blackburn are asking, or a 12-month loan deal for Borja. This season is definitely one where we need to maintain our PremierLeague status because I doubt there will be anyone wanting our last season playing at Goodison to be in the Championship.

Dave Abrahams
79 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:09:10
Robert (71).

“I wouldn't be too down-hearted if there are no more incoming players.”

I'd say they were absolutely essential because, without any new players coming in by Thursday, then this squad will have a very hard time keeping us up – especially the way Frank Lampard uses them – and we've already had a few injuries depleting this inadequate squad.

Peter Carpenter
80 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:17:21
I agree with you, Kevin and Bill. Gordon is better than both of those two over-rated players.

Gallagher – one good season, Broja – half a good season.

Can't understand the obsession with them. Madness to sell your best players.

Brian Murray
81 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:21:29
We really need a clear run at any targets and not have the likes of newcastle sniffing round as well. I’d be happy with the blackburn lad as giving up on broja. Plus he adds goals anyway.
Nick Page
82 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:25:08
If you sell your best players you do it at the start of the window not at the end, when there is no time to reinvest, sensibly. This being Everton and run by The Clown Show of Kenwright & Co, we NEVER reinvest well; we always overpay (wages included) and we never get the best out of the players because the structure and ethos of the club is in a diabolical state. It’s more like a holiday camp than a professional sports club. So selling our best young homegrown player now is a disasterclass of Everton proportions.

I’d challenge every single one of the Everton board or senior management to come on here and debate this issue. But they’re all cowards hiding behind their overpaid desk jobs and wouldn’t engage with the fans at any level. Shameful.

Brian Murray
83 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:28:44
Nick. I won't comment on your first paragraph, I'm on too many yellow cards on here for that but this so called re vamp should seriously look at our scouting network. The next Drogba is out there. Unknown cheap as chips.
Robert Tressell
84 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:37:06
Dave # 74, we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think it's anything like essential. Add Maupay to the teams that played Chelsea, Villa, Forest and Brentford and we'd have 4 or 5 points now. We should be okay.

Rob #73, I can't see the sense in buying Brereton-Diaz now we have Maupay. Both v similar. I can see the sense in getting Broja on loan if that is still a goer though - as he offers something different to Calvert-Lewin and Maupay.

I also think Gordon will have a good season for us.

What's more essential than new players is that Lampard better organises the ones we have. We can see he's a good man manager with the way he's transformed Iwobi and shown similar positive signs with Holgate and Davies. Just needs to sort the defensive set-up in particular.

Joe McMahon
85 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:37:43
Many comments on this thread to agree with. If Chelsea offer £60 million (cash only) for Gordon it has to be accepted surely. As I've already stated that's more than Liverpool paid for Sadio Mane and Salah (and they are absolutely at a different level).
Dave Abrahams
86 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:51:09
Robert (80), yes fair enough Robert and I wish I could swop my pessimistic outlook for your optimistic one but I won’t if the Thursday transfers don’t bring in at least two new good additions!!
Paul Smith
87 Posted 29/08/2022 at 11:56:41
Gordon should not be sold he is one of our best players and got us a point on Saturday. His name was sung from start to finish by the away blues – he's a tonic [no pun intended].

Watching Richarlison yesterday – he was a steal for £60mill – what a player... gutted!

To lose Gordon as well would be shit to say the least. FWIW, I think he will stay for at least another season.

Btw I think Gana Gueye is much better than Allan, but yes, they are similar. That is the one I want to see before transfer deadline day.

Joe McMahon
88 Posted 29/08/2022 at 14:54:40
Nick@94, we did!

We replaced Lukaku – who had just scored 25 Premier L eague goals in his last season for Everton – with a gassed out Rooney for £160k per week.

James Hughes
89 Posted 29/08/2022 at 15:26:30
Denis, #92,

I am in the "Gordon to Stay" camp but what you have posted is very hard to argue against and very pragmatic. As you say, there is never any guarantee any player will kick on.

I am still concerned about our Premier League status and Lampard's decision to play three at the back has not made it any rosier. That system needs quality players and we do not have them here.

I will contradict myself here as Chelsea won using that system under Conte and turned Victor Moses into a very good player, albeit for one season. So Maybe a couple of ours could start playing like quality players rather than just decent players?

Stu Darlington
90 Posted 29/08/2022 at 15:37:06
Just been announced Ross Barkley has left Chelsea by mutual consent.

He couldn’t possibly — could he??

Tony Graham
91 Posted 29/08/2022 at 19:39:13
Is Chelsea's latest offer true?

Two players plus £25M...???


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