Lampard confident that Gordon is going nowhere

He'll have a long way to catch up to Dave Hickson's scoring exploits, though. His average was 1 goal in two games. I think he scored 111 goals in around 240 games. Only Dixie Dean had a better goal record.

But as Frank has said, it's now too late.

If we can somehow bring in Gueye (even now, somehow, it's an *if*, such has been the endless delaying nonsense) and bring in Diaz, I'd say this has been a very productive transfer window.

More important than any incomings for me, however, is that Frank persists with four at the back. It made such a difference last night.

Evertonians are like the fans of every other club. They love a local boy making good, but you only have to look at the treatment Tom Davies receives to know their judgement will not be clouded.

10m for a player "who can't shoot or score goals" ? I sometimes wonder how Kenwright gets away with fooling such a large proportion of the fan base, but not often.

Let's hope AG can bag the winner against RS. His value could rocket to 12m in the blink of an eye

Tom Davies has never been coached properly, never been allowed to develop within a consistent and stable system or position, much of it because of the way our basket case of a club has veered from one disaster to another, almost since his debut.

At this point, his most notable contribution to the club will likely be the few million quid that his sale brings in once his critics finally get their own way.

It's a gamble, for certain. If we stay in the division, and allow the boy to mature for another season, his value will increase drastically. Staying is absolutely the right decision for him, it remains to be seen if the club will benefit.

The way some need to scape goat players, to jump on their backs the second they aren't perfect is insane and not replicated anywhere else (to the same degree) in the PL. We are the English Valencia, a sleeping giant weighed down by expectations created in the past. They are worse tbf, they wave the white handkerchiefs if the coach loses two in a row. Do we want to be like that?

The treatment of Tom and Barkley (yes I know he acted like a knob at the end and cost us a fortune with his skulduggery) was at times disgusting. Not homegrown but I have also been so disappointed in the treatment of McNeil, he's 22 and played 3 games FFS and only last night was he in a more comfortable position for him, I thought he worked hard and did OK, certainly undeserving of the popular knee-jerk narratives some spout on here. Why do some of you need a fall guy? Do they provide a focal point for your disappointments? People blame to give themselves a sense of control, that of course doesn't happen and their anger and frustration makes them feel more out of control. Whilst busy with that we miss opportunities for objectivity and understanding. It's unfair and unproductive.

Can Frank continue to unite us and encourage us to support in the right ways because lets face it we as a collective can be as incredible as we can toxic. I would be a hypocrite to say I wasn't tempted by some of the money mentioned for Gordon but I can see that him staying this season at least is the right thing.

I think with Gana Gueye coming (love him as a player) this solidifies our midfield for 2 years. Keeping Gordon means if there is any money left we should look for a versatile forward who can play up front as a two or drift out wide or even fill in as a 10 (any suggestions Robert and Sam?). I like the look of Gapko from PSV, looks like the big boys have had a sniff and don't see him as their option, he is versatile, would improve us immediately and could play with DCL and Gordon.

I doubt we have cash for that option now we are keeping our Anthony, Brereton-Diaz or Kudos might have to do. I wouldn't sniff at that but with Anthony staying and Gana coming I think it spells a less dramatic end to our window that we had suspected. Onwards. Frank, McNeil et al, you have my full support. COYB!

Also, even if we did get a load of dosh for the lad, our track record on wasting money is spectacular.
Him staying gives us all hope.

to sell him would be ludicrous and would help push us towards relegation. the cost of relegation would be fr higher than any fee.

we won't get a good replacement in time, so selling would be a disaster.

his value is going on one direction. he is a couple of good goals away from an England place for the world cup, and 10+ goals this season and he'll be at Jack Grealish levels of valuation.

keep him. offer him a massive new contract and try our best to build a team good enough for him.

and if we sell, ensure we get real top dollar. English attacking wingers are overpriced, so demand as such - in 2 years.

If Anthony's going means we will get these two players in then I'd sell him because if Anthony is staying and the only new player coming in is Gana Gueye then we can look for a long fight to stay up this season and watching more ultra defensive football for every game we watch Everton play throughout the next eight or nine months.

Personally I still think we'll sign one of the 457 players we've been linked with over the summer.

I've also just read that we're about to sign James Garner from Man Utd for 㾻m according to SSN which would be great news - he's an excellent all round midfielder.

11pm tomorrow and the window shuts. I just hope Maupay doesn't end up being our replacement for Richarlison. He'll give 100% but he's not going to be bulging the net often and I can't see DCL lasting the rest of the season with no further injuries. Looking like a season where we'll be looking to grind out results.

I've written off the next two games so anything other than 0 points would be a bonus. Looking like we'll be on 3 points and no wins from the first 7 games - then our season really begins.

Would be good to get the likes of Gomes, Rondon and Keane off the books. Lampard doesn't rate Rondon at all so may as well save his wages.

I repeat though I don't want to watch this defend at all times with very limited attacking football which cost us points versus Chelsea, Villa and Brentford, I've had enough of the Tories without playing conservative football!!

Given, also one or two other seemingly useful additions to the offensive side of things I think there is real hope the team is shaping up and the lad could be the ace in the hole.

Everton may be better suited to playing a top 6 side since they have more space to play in midfield. Against Lower table sides that set up shop and push up give them more problems.

If Maupay plays it will give Everton a better shape, helped by the four at the back and three in midfield.If they can get the Guyene transfer through it would be a bonus.

Gordon seems more confident.With the transfer shackles off he will be able to concentrate on his game better.

I am actually optimistic.Think Frank may have stumbled onto something without realising it.Some of the players coming in have decided what needs done and are doing it.

Maybe Frank is into Free Expression.

Much as I loved Richarlison's attitude and workrate, he wasn't exactly a goal machine!

Jim #7.

One thing I have in common with Boys Pen Bill is that we both idolised Dave Hickson. He was a defender's worst nightmare come true.

Years later I actually met him and we chatted about the time the Charlton goalie, Willie Duff, was sent off (very rare in those days) for punching Dave in a cup match at The Valley. Dave said,

"Yes, but I'd been battering him at corners and free kicks. Elbows, the lot. He must have been black and blue".

Surely the established Everton striker with the best goal-scoring ratio is Gary Lineker!

Surely puts Gordon's valuation at 𧴜M or thereabouts.

Broja and Gallagher plus 㿔M to 㿞M should do it.

We need to keep him as I see his value increasing. I would much rather have him than both Borja and Gallagher.

The daftest post on here for some time.

When Rooney and Arteta departed on deadline day, can you remember how much of the money was reinvested by Kenwright on new players in the next window? Answer: next to nothing.

David Currie @30

Agree with you 100%, Gordon staying is excellent news.

It looks like he walks toward travelling blues with a face like a slapped arse as though to say "Sniff that, gargoyles!"