Manchester City vs Everton

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Dominic Calvert-Lewin will be in the squad that travels to the Etihad Stadium but may not start

Everton face a massive challenge if they are to avoid closing out 2022 with what would be a fifth successive defeat in all competitions as they travel to the home of the Champions on New Year's Eve.

The Blues resumed their Premier League campaign on Boxing Day with a hugely disappointing defeat to Wolves that has turned up the heat on manager Frank Lampard and increased the pressure on the team to start picking up points as a matter of urgency lest they drop into the bottom three at the turn of 2023.

In all honesty they will need a minor miracle against Pep Guardiola's free-scoring outfit and on a ground where an Everton side hasn't won for a decade. City were in action only yesterday when they won at Leeds but the sheer depth to their squad means that even a heavily rotated starting XI would pose a huge test for Lampard's men. 

Nevertheless, the Toffees' boss has been boosted by the availability of Dominic Calvert-Lewin who will be in the matchday squad after the decision was taken not to risk him against Wolves following his triple injury concern heading into the break for the World Cup and a general lack of match fitness.

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There are those among the fanbase who feel as though the striker should be withheld from the line-up until next Tuesday's clash with Brighton, a more winnable fixture, and it's possible that Lampard will start him on the bench at the Etihad Stadium.

"[Dominic] is in the squad," Lampard said in his pre-match press conference this morning. "Having Dominic back in the fold is a great thing for us because players who can make a difference at the top end of the pitch like that mean points. It's as simple as that at times."

Meanwhile, in defence, Yerry Mina is expected to travel with the squad after it leaving the fray at Goodison early on Boxing Day with suspected cramp but Conor Coady is expected to start regardless, perhaps in a back three, after having to sit out against his parent club.

There are, however, some question marks over some un-named members of the squad who have come down with illness in the past few days which could complicate Lampard's selection.

"Defensively, we played well against Wolves but you'll always miss Conor because of his input in terms of personality and quality on the pitch so it's great to have him back," the boss explained.

"We will find out about Yerry today. He is training today. He had some cramp in the game against Wolves and a bit more of a sensation around his hamstring - very low level - so he'll train today and then we'll make a call.

"We've got a few people who are slightly unwell so we've got a few checks on that."

It's almost five years since Everton beat Manchester City and the Citizens have done the double over the Toffees in each of the past four seasons and the form book coming into the this game only points to another victory for Guardiola.

The perennial mantra for this fixture is, however, that when it's 11 vs 11, anything can happen as the likes of Crystal Palace have shown already this term. If they can remain in the contest and execute an effective counter-attacking game-plan with the kind of clinical finishing that was almost wholly absent against Wolves, they stand a slim chance of coming away with something.

Anything would be a huge result.

Kick-off: 3pm, Saturday 31 December, 2022
Referee:  Andy Madley
Lee Mason
Last Time:
Manchester City 3 - 0 Everton

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Patterson, Coady, Mina, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, Gordon, Maupay 


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Ray Roche
1 Posted 30/12/2022 at 11:25:08
I can't see us getting anything from City so I would save Calvert-Lewin for the Brighton match.
Mal van Schaick
2 Posted 30/12/2022 at 11:30:28
How Lampard thinks that we will be anywhere near the level that they play at is beyond me.

Sorry, I can only see a thrashing with the players that we have and their current playing level. Please prove me wrong.

Jeff Armstrong
3 Posted 30/12/2022 at 11:32:35
Agree Ray, put him on the bench and give him 20 minutes to get a bit of match fitness for Tuesday night.
Tony Everan
4 Posted 30/12/2022 at 11:34:46
There's no way he will be playing a full game Saturday and Tuesday after the long lay-off.

I don't think he will start, as Ray says above, the Brighton match on Tuesday will be the one he is targeted at. Especially as the home game against Brighton will be massive for Frank Lampard and Everton.

Will Mabon
5 Posted 30/12/2022 at 11:41:53
They realized the stadium updates weren't cutting it...
Minik Hansen
6 Posted 30/12/2022 at 11:49:30
Mal, it's a Premier League game, regardless if it's Everton, anything can happen!

A starting line-up with Maupay and Cannon at the front would be interesting.

The last match of the year... Give us something, Blues!!!!

Colin Glassar
7 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:08:49
Don’t be surprised if we play out of our skins and get a result (draw) against Man City.
Paul Hewitt
8 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:22:42
Colin @7.

I wouldn't be surprised, I’d be bloody amazed!

Ian Riley
9 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:24:40
If City take their chances, it could be over after 20 minutes.
Colin Glassar
11 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:25:28
We sometimes raise our game against the bigger teams, Paul. Last season we pushed Man City all the way and this season we were better than Liverpool.
Danny Baily
12 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:31:28
Gray up front in the Richarlison role from last season will at least give us a chance to nick something.
Christy Ring
13 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:32:23
I'd give him 20 minutes max against City, we'll be on the back foot, especially at the Etihad, and chances will be limited.

We need a pressing game, so Tuesday at home and a start against Brighton would be a huge lift. Hopefully his injuries are behind him.

We desperately need Calvert-Lewin on the pitch, we're definitely lacking his physical presence, and even try and play Maupay beside him?

Christopher Timmins
14 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:38:49
Glad to hear that Dominic is going to be involved and he needs minutes. Start him and hopefully he plays for an hour or more and impacts on the game.

A very sad state of affairs that so many feel that we have no chance tomorrow and the best we can do is avoid a hiding. What's more, this had been the way for so many years against the top teams, Ferguson used to play a second-string team against us back in the day and still come out on top.

Not many good times since we last won some silverware.

Will Mabon
15 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:40:05
Colin, we've done that lifting of our game against better teams so often over some years now, that it always raises the obvious frustrating question.

I have an anything-could-happen feeling for tomorrow, but... since the probability realistically is maybe 80% that we lose, then why not just go for it a little? The same old same old will deliver nothing.

Christy Ring
16 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:46:43
I just read an an article where Big Nev said he learnt a lot from the LGBT community, and he said, “Everton fans, would it bother you if we had the first player to come out? It wouldn't bother me.”

He got a reply, “It would be good if one of them came out as a fucking footballer at the moment!!”

John Raftery
17 Posted 30/12/2022 at 12:54:55
Surely Calvert-Lewin won't be risked tomorrow. Save him for the next two home games which may determine Frank's future.

For tomorrow, use a 4-5-1 with the aim of frustrating City and pinching a goal on the counterattack. If we continue with the 4-3-3, we will be battered.

Stuart Sharp
18 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:00:01
Can anyone recommend a good safe pub not too far from the ground?

For some weird reason I haven't got to the bottom of, I appear to be going to the game tomorrow.

Matthew Williams
19 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:00:20
I'd leave him on the bench for the game against City, save him for the Brighton home game.

As for the Citeh game, I can only see one-way traffic... a comfy home win for them, as our lads don't seem able to win away against anyone these days!

Pat Kelly
20 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:08:58
If he's fit, play him from the start. An early goal for us, unlikely as it is, would give us something to fight for.

No point bringing him on when we're three-down.

Ray Smith
21 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:09:23
Hospitalised for 2 days, back home in bed, bored.

So I looked at the next 2 fixtures from Palace down, and here is my morphine-induced predictions after those fixtures.
Not pleasant reading, but you never know.

Palace 20 pts
Villa 19 pts
Leicester 18 pts
Bournemouth 1 pts
Leeds 16 pts
West Ham 16 pts
Everton 15 pts
Wolves 14 pts
Forest 14 pts
Southampton 13 pts

So any 3 from 9. I think the morphine's wearing off! 😂😂😂
Hopefully 3 pts against Brighton and a fluke draw against City would give us 18 pts!! 😂😂😂

Nurse says there's a spare place in the asylum!!! 😂😂😂

Kim Vivian
22 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:12:56
Sounds a bit defeatist but I'm inclined to agree with Ray (#1).

However, it would be good for him to get some proper game time into his rehabilitation so it would probably be good to start him and see how we fair in the match.

If we go a couple of goals down I'd pull him off early to be safe – maybe half time – and give Tom Cannon a proper blooding alongside Maupay and Gray. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

If we are holding our own, leave Dominic on as he could just nick one or set something up and who knows, at 9-1 for the draw or 25-1 for the win, someone might be celebrating tomorrow evening.

Dean Williams
23 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:27:19
Give him 20 minutes. 🤣🤣 He only needs 2 mins to break down again.

Yerry and Dom are the footballing versions of DeLorean.

Joe Hurst
24 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:33:59
We’ve seen him in worse, but he’s got a bra on now?
Will Mabon
25 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:41:08
Joe, that's not a bra, it's a boob tube.

Obviously, you do know what it really is?

Sean Roe
26 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:41:27
Ray @ 21,

Speedy recovery.

Sean Roe
27 Posted 30/12/2022 at 13:56:43
I would honestly play 4-4-2 with Mina or Calvert-Lewin upfront with Maupay; hit Mina or Calvert-Lewin DCL every chance we get for flick-ons.

No, I haven't been drinking.

Ray Smith
28 Posted 30/12/2022 at 14:02:18
Sean @26,

Thank you! 👍

Joe Hurst
29 Posted 30/12/2022 at 14:02:27
I know Will (25) it's a bit of chest-supporting ‘kit', but I've always seen them as ‘bras' as they look that ridiculous.

Like I said: we've seen him in worse – and I'm not misogynistic – the fact that it has branding that ties it to the horrible links to betting is the real crime.

Paul Hewitt
30 Posted 30/12/2022 at 14:03:59
If we score 5 goals early, we might hang on.
John Keating
31 Posted 30/12/2022 at 14:54:44
Realistically, we'll get nothing at City, except maybe a stuffing.

Glad he's back in the squad but I would not start him but maybe give him 30 minutes in the second half.

Brighton is a more winnable, more important game and hopefully he can start against them.

Neil Lawson
32 Posted 30/12/2022 at 15:02:05
Stuart @18.

Can I suggest your nearest alehouse with a big screen, and ask them to put on The Guns of Navarone?

Safe, far less expensive, and as with the game at Man City, you already know the outcome.

Will Mabon
33 Posted 30/12/2022 at 15:03:34
Joe, I'm not the biggest fan of branding everything either, whatever the subject.

As well as holding players' tits steady, those things also house electronic monitoring devices that transmit and/or store body performance parameters, and track the players.

Ray @ 21 – I second Sean's message. I hope tomorrow's performance at City doesn't set you back. :-o

Brian Murray
34 Posted 30/12/2022 at 15:08:26
Once again, a very small-minded and dangerous attitude if we even remotely rely on Calvert-Lewin in any way. Pretend he's not here and plan ahead this window without him.
Tom Bowers
35 Posted 30/12/2022 at 15:16:57
Obviously on current form, City will walk all over us and, even if we were playing at our peak (whatever it is), we would still be hard-pressed to get anything.

The situation is dire and that result against Wolves was so bad, it begs the question what is the board doing about it.

It's hard to take when you go up against fellow strugglers, score first and early, then lose all 3 points in the 95th minute.
Such setbacks are indicative of a team ready for the drop.

The next three games will show if they have any mettle left and may just be the turning point for Lampard, who has the team playing like the old time West Ham team but without the strike force.

He hasn't sorted out the midfield which is all over the place at times and must give confidence to any opposition – never mind Man City.

Terry Murray
37 Posted 30/12/2022 at 15:22:42
Is the Man City game on TV in England?
Jerome Shields
38 Posted 30/12/2022 at 15:44:44
Everton used to play better against Top 6 sides because they were given more space in midfield and the opposition had not set up shop against them.

This seems not to be the case now, with the midfield not able to retain possession. It will be more luck than anything if Calvert-Lewin has any impact, if he plays.

Hopefully the midfield will get their ability back and no errors in play occur.

Joe Hurst
39 Posted 30/12/2022 at 15:51:30
It's a Saturday 3pm game, Terry, so – unless a handy stream can be found – it'll probably get past our defence quicker than most teams seem to be able to do (although I hope to ‘the powers that be' that they don't).
Ray Smith
40 Posted 30/12/2022 at 15:52:12
Will @33, thank you. 👍

As an Evertonian since 1964, I, like many on TW, have lived through the good times and the bad and very bad times.

I'm not looking to bash Bill Kenwright, I want him out like the majority of Evertonians, but what's he produced? Diddly squat.

He won't go, and another relegation battle appears on the horizon; and this after only 16 games.

Oh well, here's to tomorrow and Tuesday, 🤞 2 or 4 points; morphine just kicked in again... 😂😂😂 Hopefully 3 points or even 2 points... COYB

Mark Ryan
41 Posted 30/12/2022 at 16:08:08
He doesn't inspire me, even when fit, and so, when I see and read the strapline that he might be in the squad, I simply think "So what?"

If he plays tomorrow, he doesn't score; if he's benched, he doesn't score; if he stays away, he doesn't score.

0-4 and I'm being generous to us.

Mark Taylor
42 Posted 30/12/2022 at 16:10:24
I quite like the idea of Gray up front. He's the quickest we have and I think City can be vulnerable to the long ball punt.

The real problem is going to be at the back. I think we'll have to drop off and maybe man-mark De Bruyne.

Geoff Lambert
43 Posted 30/12/2022 at 17:03:09
We have just been beaten at home by a rubbish bottom-of-the-league team and some on here talking about a win or draw away at Man City. We will be lucky to keep Haaland to 5 never mind the fookin team.
Stuart Sharp
44 Posted 30/12/2022 at 17:05:53
Neil @32,

Best advice I've had all year.

Jason Hewly
45 Posted 30/12/2022 at 17:13:16
Whether Calvert-Lewin is in or out, we're probably going to be battered. It's a free hit. The Brighton game is much bigger.

We need a CF on 1 January. Get Lucas Moura on loan for the rest of the season.

Jay Harris
46 Posted 30/12/2022 at 17:35:28
Time for Frank to show if he has any tactical nous. We played well against them at home last season but that was with Richarlison.

IMO, our only chance to nick any points will be based on having a really solid midfield and fast forwards who can score on the break – and therein lies the problem.

I would drop McNeill, Maupay and play Coleman just behind Patterson, who is good at breaking forward and is direct. My lineup – not that Frank will pay any attention to it – would be:

Coleman Coady Tarkowski Mykolenko
Patterson Onana Gana Iwobi
Gordon Gray

Kieran Kinsella
47 Posted 30/12/2022 at 17:45:01
I would play Calvert-Lewin. Given his track record, there's no point wrapping him in cotton wool as he stands a good chance of being injured come Tuesday, whether or not he plays tomorrow.

If he is actually fit tomorrow, use him; the rainy day may never come that you're saving him for.

Dale Self
48 Posted 30/12/2022 at 17:45:42
Danny 12 and Mark 42,

I like it. He's got to be told to not worry about it, just keep shooting. Getting into the final third and just getting a shot on goal is needed to get back smoothly against City.

We may not get through midfield often but just having a go outside the box or not is better than a turnover while Frank has Onana offensively committed.

Not sure about pairing Gray with Maupay but really – why the fuck not give Maupay something finally to play around? Do it Tony's way and just run them as best we can, get into them and get the damn second balls occasionally and maybe we'll have something to play for after 25 minutes.

It's risky and they could get done on the break but we can go to the low-block mentality after we're two or three behind if that's how it goes.

We occasionally get one over on City when everyone least expects it. Invoke the Cahill days and take them out with some honest tackles. Make them fight for it.

Derek Knox
49 Posted 30/12/2022 at 17:47:00
What's that projected forward line going to attack them with? Feather dusters! Laughter may come to our defence when City see what they are up against. :-)

As always, hoping for a result but, after Monday's display, I can't see anything other than a game of 'hide and seek'. We'll try to hide but they will seek us out.

Kieran Kinsella
50 Posted 30/12/2022 at 17:54:00

Hopefully Pep saw Monday as well and decides to give Scott Carson and maybe some of the cleaning staff a run out.

A feather duster showdown.

Ian Bennett
51 Posted 30/12/2022 at 18:05:48
Apparently it's 9 wins in the calendar year, and that followed a pretty barren 3-month stretch after Brighton away.

Can't afford injuries or a mauling. Hobson's choice...

Kunal Desai
52 Posted 30/12/2022 at 18:13:41
Damage limitation excercise.

Pack every defender, all seven, on the goal line and 3 defensive midfielders in front of them; hope for the best and move on.

Kieran Kinsella
53 Posted 30/12/2022 at 18:20:22
Frank has 34 points from 34 games total.
Rafa had 19 from 19.
Mike Walker had 27 points from 31.
Kendall Mk III had 40 from 38 games.
Terry Downes
54 Posted 30/12/2022 at 18:49:45
What the fuck are Everton doing – does anyone know?

We talking about signing a £20M striker from Coventry when we have one of own playing and scoring for Sunderland now? This guy Simms seems to score everywhere he goes but is never given a chance with us.

Surely given his recent form, we should bring him back and even take a punt on his partner Stewart – they're both back from injury and both scoring!

But knowing us, there's another royal fuck-up on its way.

Neil Copeland
55 Posted 30/12/2022 at 18:58:10
Time to drop all the negative shite and get positive!

COYB — close out this year as we mean to start 2023.


Anthony A Hughes
56 Posted 30/12/2022 at 18:58:49
Come on, lads – let's be positive, City could be shitting themselves right now… :).

(Haaland – put down that calculator, son.)

Nick Page
57 Posted 30/12/2022 at 19:03:39
Kieran 50, we'd still get battered playing their cleaners, lol.

After 40 years of this, and actually being there to see us win stuff and compete vs now, I've honestly never been more disillusioned with EFC (and its myriad of problems).

I just want them to give 100%, bit of fire in the belly, and get stuck in. It's not rocket science, Frank – just have a go for fuck's sake. After all, God loves a trier. UTFT.

Luke Welch
58 Posted 30/12/2022 at 19:15:48
Expecting the usual horror show tomorrow.

What is in interesting is what happens after; if it's a complete mauling, Frank's last nail could be the Brighton game.

Tony Hill
59 Posted 30/12/2022 at 19:24:34
I was one of the ranters and among those booing at the end of the Wolves game, and legitimately so, but I'm damned if I'm giving any more ammo to our opponents and those who hate us.

In supporting the team to survival – and in backing a manager who I think may yet be a success with the club – we will not be excusing the arseholes on the Board; we will be honouring Everton — something which cannot be bought or sold.

Fuck everyone else, let's concentrate on us.

Gary Johnson
60 Posted 30/12/2022 at 19:25:48
II hate the 'sit back and block' shite. It's a hiding to nothing against a team as skilful at passing as these… not a chance in the world we'll keep these out or stop a cricket score.

Attack them hard and fast with pace on the counter. Make them think about throwing too many forward. Select mostly on pace…

Patterson Godfrey Tarkowski Mykolenko
Gordon Iwobi Onana Gana Gray

Neil Copeland
63 Posted 30/12/2022 at 19:31:18
Tony #59, cracking post that mate.


Dale Self
65 Posted 30/12/2022 at 19:46:39
Yes, Tony 59,

The good old geriatric and avuncular Arsenal man came to look down his nose at me yesterday. He said, "Well, Arsenal are doing well."

I just gave him a look and realized how often this creep will come in for a pile-on at just the wrong time and ends up eating his words. I think he sensed his future peril.

We will get a couple of unexpected results so let's just hang in there without losing all the enamel on our teeth.

Brian Wilkinson
66 Posted 30/12/2022 at 19:49:46
If anyone is feeling brave you can get odds of 28/1 for an Everton win tomorrow.

Or for the perfect double against the odds, Everton 28/1 and Leicester City 10/1.

Don't be surprised if the Leicester one comes in, Liverpool always seem to slip up against lower teams.

Ashley Roberts
67 Posted 30/12/2022 at 20:01:29
Gary #60,

I cannot believe you have included Godfrey over Coady??

Calvert-Lewin definitely needs some
match fitness if he is going to be any use to us and so I would definitely start him with the view of giving him 60 minutes at most.

Starting cold against Brighton does not sound like a wise idea to me. At least with some game time against City there is more of a chance he will be better prepared for Brighton.

I would like to see what Calvert-Lewin and Cannon could do up front. Both have good speed. I think playing Maupay from the off is a waste of time as he just does not have any pace to get behind the defence.

I think Iwobi, Onana and Gana will play in midfield and I was wondering, if Gordon cannot play there, if we go with playing Price?

So I would try 4-4-2 so we don't get overrun in midfield and not leave Calvert-Lewin totally isolated and a spectator. I am of the opinion that going and parking the bus will not work and we ultimately learn nothing from using this pointless tactic.

Tony Hill
68 Posted 30/12/2022 at 20:03:47
While I'm in an optimistic mood, I'd like to add that I think we have in Patterson a right-back who is going to be truly top (maybe world) class.

Ditto Onana in his position despite his appalling form and apparent bewilderment, and further ditto Gordon who is one of us and hugely gifted.

Going even wilder, I think Maupay is going to come good as a finisher and effective forward presence, and I'm also backing McNeil who has great talent if only he can be persuaded to believe it. These are, mostly, very young players with their careers ahead of them.

Finally, I'm going to say that Calvert-Lewin's recent difficulties will prove a benefit for him and us. He's too physically majestic to be a crock despite his injuries and despite my scepticism. Perhaps the best leap I've ever seen in football and with many other skills (and, yes, weaknesses).

Stick with them all. Why should they not remain ours and form the basis of a renaissance?

Oh, and James Garner, whose loss has been damaging but who is another with enormous potential and who has the entire look of a born Everton player.

Andy Crooks
69 Posted 30/12/2022 at 20:11:18
Frank and his team need to banish the fear and give it a go. Our best will give them a proper game.
Anthony Flack
71 Posted 30/12/2022 at 20:57:10
I just put my £10 on …
Laurie Hartley
72 Posted 30/12/2022 at 21:24:39
That Chris Sutton of the BBC predicted we would be beaten 5-0. They are starting to take the Mickey out of us now.

This is not the time to roll over. If Calvert-Lewin is fit, he should start – end of story. If he is fit and doesn't start, that's us waiving the white flag.

I wonder if Frank has ever heard of the Dogs of War? My starting 11 would be:-

Patterson, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko
Gordon, Gana, Godfrey, Onana, Gray

I would put Godfrey on Haaland and tell him to stick to him like glue.

Sean Kelly
73 Posted 30/12/2022 at 21:32:17
I know a lot of us are dreading tomorrow but I think we can get something from this. It's an opportunity for those on against Wolves to prove themselves.

If they put in an honest shift and leave everything they have on the pitch, who knows what will happen? Frank needs to put his gameplan into action and demand a performance from this squad.

They are looking for leadership and now it's time for Frank to step up. Prove me and others wrong Frank. The support base is there now, just give us something to support.

Gordon and Iwobi need to show why they deserve a new contract and Maupey needs to show why we signed them.
It can be done.

Regardless of the result tomorrow, if those mentioned above can rise to the occasion, it's then up to us supporters to demand at least an 8/10 performance for the rest of the season.

That will earn us survival. Anything else I don't want to think about.

Alec Gaston
74 Posted 30/12/2022 at 21:33:46
Tony @59, I agree.

I got sucked into the booing but quickly realised we were the difference last season...

So, unless we want to be back where we were (no sleep and constant worry), we need to get behind the team... win, lose or draw.

I can't see another way out with this squad of players.

Danny Baily
75 Posted 30/12/2022 at 21:36:15

Forest and Wolves were the games to get behind the team. We needed 6 points from those and picked up just 1.

Paul Kernot
76 Posted 30/12/2022 at 21:39:34
Tony #68.

Can I please have some of whatever you're on, mate?

Obviously you got it from Danny O. You two just about have me believing again.

Here's a question: If we get a mauling by Man City, then lose to Brighton, and Lampard goes, who would take over short term and who would back them?

Now Ferguson has gone, I can't see Leighton Baines & Co being up to the task of saving us, even in the short term.

Tony Hill
77 Posted 30/12/2022 at 21:49:33
Paul @76,

I've quoted Marshall Foch on here before, naturally, but here he is again:

"My centre is yielding. My right is retreating. Situation excellent. I am attacking."

Good advice, probably, for life; good advice, certainly, for footy. Force of will is what we need, right through our beloved Club.

Alec Gaston
78 Posted 30/12/2022 at 21:51:55

I agree but, like last season, I feel things are slipping and can't see us getting out of it unless the crowd changes.

Rob Halligan
79 Posted 30/12/2022 at 21:57:46
Alec, I've just watched West Ham get beat by Brentford, and they were absolute gash. They will be in the mix at the end, and are struggling to score goals, as most of the bottom half are.

It was two easy goals for Brentford, while West Ham offered next to nothing. If nothing else, we have a pretty decent defence, much better than any of the teams around us.

A striker or two next month, coupled with our defence, and we will pull away from the bottom.

Dave Abrahams
80 Posted 30/12/2022 at 22:03:52
Another of our strikers scores the only goal of the game for Derby County, Dobbin!!
Tom Bowers
81 Posted 30/12/2022 at 22:06:25
It's not a bad thing being optimistic but, in all reality, there has been nothing shown from this squad, manager or strategy, to say we even have a snowball's chance in hell of getting out of this game without a good hiding.

Okay, Brentford won there a few weeks back with 25% possession but they have finishers.

We keep signing players who cannot get into regular starting elevens and they play one or two good games here and then show why they were not starters. Townsend, Gray, Maupay, Iwobi... and what about Walcott.

Okay, Iwobi has improved this season but Gana is not what he was and Onana seems to be under a cloud also.

It will be a rearguard action tomorrow but, once they concede, the floodgates are likely to open. I hope I am wrong but there is nothing to suggest this team has any resilience.

Paul Hewitt
82 Posted 30/12/2022 at 22:58:25
Lampard wants Simms back in January apparently. So that's our new striker then.
Tony Abrahams
83 Posted 30/12/2022 at 23:06:10
Hopefully this means that Moshiri is close to selling the club and just wants to get out without spending another penny, Paul?

I was just reading about how much money the Russian Oligarchs have lost since the sanctions started. Although Usmanov wasn't in the top four, it was saying that the likes of Abromovich have lost around 50% of their net wealth.

So, even though they are still seriously wealthy individuals, they will all be very, very worried, about their finances, and also aware that most things they do will currently be under a much larger spotlight.

Robert Tressell
84 Posted 30/12/2022 at 23:21:39
Tom # 81.

Nothing wrong with buying players who aren't starters at their present clubs. Bergkamp, Vieira, Henry and Coutinho all fell into that category and did okay. Pienaar, Arteta, Howard, Neville and Saha likewise.

A few of Brentford's team are cast-offs too.

Let's face it, Gray and Townsend were tremendous signings given the price – and we'd have certainly have been relegated last season without them.

The price, age and career trajectory need to be taken into account but other (usually) richer clubs' reserves are often an excellent place to go shopping.

David McMullen
85 Posted 30/12/2022 at 23:34:57
Has Haahahaland scored 20 league goals already?

Dixie might have some competition. Especially if he bags about 4 or 5 tomorrow.

Trying to be "glass half-full" might be difficult but here's hoping we silence City and come away with a shock win. (Another one in Manchester next week too please!)

Things are much more positive when you've had a whisky.

Brendan McLaughlin
86 Posted 30/12/2022 at 23:38:11
Bottle of?... David #88
Paul Birmingham
88 Posted 30/12/2022 at 23:47:53
Time for Everton to stand up and be counted and get in City's faces, upset their play, and take any chances that are made.

Looking for a positive response and to play for the shirt, and to prove a point for themselves as a squad tomorrow, that they can play football and play well.

“What's Our Name?”


Sean O’Hanlon
92 Posted 30/12/2022 at 23:59:53
I was watching the highlights of the Championship games from yesterday. Everton will struggle in that league after relegation this season.

No way are they a decent Championship team. Successive relegations on the cards.

David McMullen
94 Posted 31/12/2022 at 00:03:14
Whyte & McKay Brendan. To quote Bryn in Gavin & Stacey, www.
Kieran Kinsella
96 Posted 31/12/2022 at 00:30:31

Who is Jerry Yates?

Don Alexander
98 Posted 31/12/2022 at 01:35:20
Keiran, Jerry Yates is a forward playing for Championship Bottom 3 side Blackpool.

Recently, various TWers have touted him as a viable answer to our goal-scoring problems with one or two even pondering whether he's akin to Jamie Vardy when he was at non-league Fleetwood Town years ago (Blackpool and Fleetwood are neighbouring towns).

Back then, Vardy had blistering pace and menace and a fabulous scoring ratio, but a dubious mode of off-field personal behaviour. That now fabulously wealthy cretin, Steve Walsh was allegedly in charge of recruiting at Leicester (and that was way wide of the truth to anyone but Moshiri and Kenwright who ruinously signed him on for us) and authorised Vardy's signing on but it took Vardy a season or so, under Nigel Pearson's direct daily control, to develop to first team contention.

Jerry Yates is a journeyman pro aged 26. Only since joining journeyman Blackpool has he knocked in just a few exciting goals, but nothing startling. He's Maupay-like in stature and has a lack of startling pace, vigour , and aggression.

I know it's boring to some but when the fuck will Evertonian Jerry Yates, and his like, fans forcefully object to the inept owner and boardroom who've reduced us to this?

Kieran Kinsella
99 Posted 31/12/2022 at 01:52:06

Cheers for the info. I wondered cause when I typed his name in Google the predictive text filled out “Jerry Yates obituary” which didn't sound encouraging.

Just the other day one of the clickbait sites had a typo and an article billed as “Everton to gamble on 120 year striker.” So nothing should surprise me I suppose with Blue Bill running the show.

Brian Murray
100 Posted 31/12/2022 at 02:19:46
Don @105,

I thought he was Bill's old mate off Corrie, the window cleaner.

Oops – that was Eddie Yeats.

Jay Harris
101 Posted 31/12/2022 at 04:04:54
I’ve watched Ellis Simms in quite a few games this season and, although his off-the-ball movement and 50/50 challenges are poor, if it comes to him in the box, he knows where the net is – unlike Gordon, Maupay and McNeil.

The only forward we currently have with a nous for goal is Gray and he is inconsistent over 90 minutes.

In midfield, Doucouré is the only one I would back to score any goals but his form has gone right off since his injury.

I don't know who is available but we need goalscorers in the Richy mould and neither or youth nor the current squad can oblige.

Derek Knox
102 Posted 31/12/2022 at 04:22:11
Kinell Brian, there's a name from the past, Eddie Yeats, aka Chamois Davis Junior, who also played Vernon Scripps in Heartbeat.

Sadly passed now, but if still alive could probably have done a job for us. :-)

Gerry Killen
103 Posted 31/12/2022 at 06:50:38
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is the X factor – Pickford!

I can see him up against Haaland, Jordan is as brave as they come and he will give the big fella the St Virgil treatment and that will put the shits up them. He loves the big games, he is more focused and will galvanise the the rest of the team to raise thier game.

The rest is up to Frank to make sure every player knows what his role is and anticipate where the ball is and where the open spaces are. It’s a simple game really, anyway, good luck and don't be afraid, Come On You Blues!

Danny O’Neill
104 Posted 31/12/2022 at 07:34:00
It's an interesting one, Don. I know it's a different game these days, but there is always a gem to be found shopping around in the lower leagues. And by that, I mean home and abroad.

Too often these days, our incompetent negotiating panel seemingly goes in trying to convince the club receiving of our money to accept more than what they expected.

Trevor Steven, Peter Reid, that bin man from Llandudno. The reserve player who couldn't get a game for Liverpool. I won't name him. Tim Cahill.

Even that lot spotted that dislikable fullback playing for Hull having come through the Scottish league, who now has a Premier League title, Champions League and FA Cup amongst other medals to his name.

Anyway. It's matchday. To Rob @79 and all those travelling, best wishes. I'll focus on the team today. To those of us nervously pacing up and down, I'm with you. Regardless, let's get behind the team today.

We can do the politics tomorrow and Monday before Tuesday comes.

And then almost 10,000 will march to Old Trafford on Friday. If that can't inspire and get a reaction, I don't know what can. There should be no requirement for a team talk.

Andrew Haizelden
105 Posted 31/12/2022 at 08:03:08
Will @33.

Heart attack for a moment. Thought you were predicting the final score. :-)

As long as they put up a fight and stop the backward passing when near the City area, I will be happy.

Frank Sheppard
106 Posted 31/12/2022 at 09:13:08
If we keep it below 5 goals against, I can hear the “It's a defeat but we can take some positives out of the game”.
Luke Welch
107 Posted 31/12/2022 at 09:25:24
Can we just make Tuchel a wage offer he can't refuse?
Danny Baily
108 Posted 31/12/2022 at 09:41:20
Luke 114, now there's an idea! Promise him we'll back him in the transfer window by recalling Simms and loaning El Ghazi.
Luke Welch
109 Posted 31/12/2022 at 09:46:16
Well, I was thinking more of the lure of leading us out in the new stadium. If he gets us safe this season, there might be a few quid for the summer.

Andy Crooks
110 Posted 31/12/2022 at 10:57:22
Here's how we can win today:

City have better players and a better coach, we can't match or outdo that but we can run harder, work harder and kick harder.

But... here's what our lads have that no City players has today. The chance to be a hero. No matter what any of the talented players have, anything they do today will be expected, then forgotten.

The chance to be a legend doesn't come many times for most players. It's waiting for one of our lads today.
Seize the day, Everton!!!

Darren Hind
111 Posted 31/12/2022 at 11:16:36

I can honestly say I have never heard of odds that big for a Premier League game. Shows what the odds-makers think of us.

I know our chances are slim, but a fiver gets you £140.

I'll have a pint less today and have a go...

Brian Harrison
112 Posted 31/12/2022 at 12:48:27
Heard a whisper that Calvert-Lewin starts, Gordon out with a bug and Godfrey starts in a back 3.
Ray Jacques
113 Posted 31/12/2022 at 12:59:19
Knife to a gun fight, we aren't even taking a spoon.
Joe McMahon
114 Posted 31/12/2022 at 13:13:49
Brian, on this season's form, no Gordon is not a bad thing.
Raymond Fox
115 Posted 31/12/2022 at 13:24:46
There was more pressure on the players in the Wolves game.

This one is a free shot, nobody expects us to get anything out of this game.

Will Mabon
116 Posted 31/12/2022 at 13:27:33
Andrew @ 112,

Prediction futile and any attempt would be a complete guess. Sadly likely to lose on paper but you never know with Everton.

As ever, I always want to see a performance, a bit of cohesion and bravery. We cannot offer more yet but effort and "standing up" is always possible. Let's get to it!

Eddie Dunn
117 Posted 31/12/2022 at 13:40:35
I have no hope today. Dom takes several games to get near his best and City's defenders will pull out their deckchairs. I bet they won't have an easier ride all season.

I am watching Wolves and now find myself negatively wishing ill luck on all the lower-half teams, because the possibility of three worse teams than us is all that will save us.

Sorry to be so bleak, the whole house has flu.

Will Mabon
118 Posted 31/12/2022 at 13:47:49
Eddie, flu = realism.

But you never know.

Mark Taylor
119 Posted 31/12/2022 at 13:59:34
I cheered myself up by watching a re-run of our 4-0 thrashing of City in 1986 with Lineker scoring a hat-trick and a team full of club legends.

As for today, I'm in Eddie's camp. I know football throws up the unexpected but surely not that unexpected. At this point, I'm reminded of John Cleese's famous quote from Clockwise:

“It's not the despair. I can stand the despair. It's the hope.”

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