27 Campaign rebrand as NSNOW

The club needs to move away from the nepotism that runs deep, and we now need to begin to start acting with total professionalism both on and off the pitch.

This applies to us supporters who begin to relax every time Everton put in a decent performance, but it's a long time since Everton really adhered to the club's motto, and now should be the time to demand real change.

Everton belong at the top table, and it's about time we got people inside the club, ‘who really demand' this.

The phrases "easily pleased", and "get to safety" are very Everton.

This passive fanbase, especially after a once-in-a-blue-moon result today, will need to be re-educated all over again as to why we can't progress as a club.

I've said many times, any upturn on the pitch and the club sits still and won't act decisively.

Moshiri is prepared to make do with the club management he has got, who got the Premier League to relax its rules and helped him survive sanctions.

The actual first-team manager and his players are to keep working on a survival formula for play and make do with the players that the club management already have in place, plus those that they bring in on transfers.

The transfers supposedly trying to fit the profile of what the manager wants and for what positions the club management deem necessary.

In the meantime, the development of the ne Everton Stadium will go ahead, run by the project management company involved, financed by Moshiri from whatever sources he can. There is a blind eye being turned to how this is being done and how It fits with the Profitability and Sustainability Rules.

As far as all parties are concerned, Covid provided a sufficient distraction. Everton may get a new investor directly or indirectly, but not a new owner... Guess who will be staying on as long as he likes and who will be spouting about non-existent Strategic Plans?

If this is true, I think that the current view, that does seem to have more people criticising our marvellous chairman, must be starting to worry him?

That's worrying coming from you Jerome.

Kenwright Out – let's give it a shout!

It will take time, as has been the case all along since Moshiri took over, but to blame Big Billl for results since is rather strange given Moshiri has bowed to the fans' vocal concerns for the previous five management teams and has fired them.

Certain fans need to look at themselves, not Bill Kenwright. A project is a project but, unless the owner and his chosen management team are given the time and space to shape the project and turn it into a reality, then this spiral of finger-pointing is only going to continue to hinder not help the project.

The whole Everton PR apparatus is orientated to his self-preservation and will go to extraordinary lengths, with Denise as his assistant and her daft announcements on strategy. 100 percent she has been on to that Radio Merseyside presenter. The only Strategic Plan that exists at Everton is the Save Bill plan.

As I said in the post, Moshiri will let them continue. He is caught by the Profitability and Sustainability Rules and Sanctions and Bill appears to have friends in the right places.

The 27 Years Campaign has been headed off by Bill & Co, even before the fan-led review.

Name me one other club in the Premier League that has this structure, especially a successful one. He'll never let it go because he is so arrogant he thinks it is his Everton and it couldn't possibly exist without his input and over-arching control.

Unless the majority of the often delusional fan base and people in the know inside the club (I won't hold my breath, Sharp) pulls together and forces change, we're well and truly stuck with it.

Depressing. Should get Big Nev involved.

Tony, pressure does work, but Bill seems to be able to divert it to Moshiri and has his arm round his shoulder when the manager is sacked. Bill is a real expert on getting someone else to fall on their sword...

Less shrugging of shoulders saying "What's the point?" The head of this poisonous snake needs to go and then the domino effect means we will rise again.

Ask Newcastle – it just needs guidance with professional people. No sentiment.

The 27 Years Campaign is trying and some of those involved have tried previously, finding themselves banned from Goodison Park for their efforts. The extraordinary lengths that were taken to set up the FAB to head off the fan-led review. The announcement of the FAB by Everton – timed just as 27 Years Campaign was launched – shows what we are up against.

It is just not an “off with their heads” call. Take the years of financial underperformance and losses. In any other business organisation, they would have been given the bullet long ago.

Even the Premier Leagues Profit and Sustainability Rules are being bent beyond recognition, with a multi-million pound stadium being Financed by a club making huge losses. Burnley wrote a letter querying this, which they subsequently withdrew.

So the questions and accountability that 27 Years are asking for can't even be got by parties who are part of the Football organisation and when they do get answers, they have to accept them and lump it. The shareholders have no AGM to ask.

Even a concerned Everton supporter on Radio Merseyside is shot down for having a legitimate opinion and other media scrutiny is non-existent… bar Kevin Maguire asking questions and an m article in Forbes wondering what is going on.

Kenwright has known for years that most Evertonians want him gone.

Don't be so sure... 15 posts on ToffeeWeb after 36 hours "the times they are a-changing"!

He's really hand-picked by the chairman and is obviously just glad to be nodded at. We've all seen him on Sky saying he's happy with the board.

I told him he's a disgrace as an Evertonian and should step down for someone with a pair.

Also listing members is great if you have a lot but announcing you've 21 members it doesn't inspire confidence. I'd keep that metric under wraps. Fake it till you make it because it can create the illusion your movement is bigger which will in turn attract more members.

Lastly, there's not much tangible content clearly laying out plans, ideas etc, it seems a bit half-baked. I support their efforts but they need to find a mate with PR/Media skills to rally the troops.

I think that the 27 Years Campaign (NSNOW) was setup as a collective social media pressure group, trying to get the various groups to coordinate their protest and provide capable individuals with various required expertise who could talk to Everton.

The idea was a good one and was to make more effective the collective consciousness of the Everton faithful into an overwhelming protest that Everton would have to engage with.

There was initially a media window where the deeper problems at Everton were being asked about, but Everton just ignored everything, bar the Brands sacrifice and the trumped-up Strategic Review that was not a Strategic Review.

The Fan Advisory Board came from Everton' corporate offices, sprouted via the Chief Executive Officer about their meetings, never their findings, and various FAB members went on to Twitter to counter Twits who attacked the running of Everton.

Many Evertonians are not on Twitter, I find it difficult to get my head around it. Match protests are difficult because inevitability Everton are struggling for points and need support.

But the fact that websites and social media threads are still discussing it rather, than just frustrated outbursts and crying wolf that put people off, means the protest will still affect the consciousness of more and more Evertonians and there will be future opportunities for protest.

However, the present convoluted situation where the management of Everton are trying to manage, rather than run the club properly, will not change the situation one iota. Though it is unbelievable what they are getting away with, which makes a mockery of standard analysis.

Everton will only be a Premier League survivor unless Frank sprouts wings, along with Finch Farm participants and non-participants. Actually, Frank suits the present regime, since he is compliant, as long as relegation does not look to be a possibility. He was lucky last season.

Do we really just want Farhad running things? I certainly don't. Bill may be out for himself but, whilst Farhad is there, I would rather he was there too, as he's crafty enough to get the key decisions right (if we are facing another relegation fight).

You can say "Look at other clubs, they don't put up with things, they protest" and cite Liverpool and Man Utd. But those two clubs are cash cows for their owners, and so the fans know that they will never do anything to hurt the golden goose.

With us, we've got a dodgy geezer who's sunk a king's ransom into Everton for very little return. We are wholly reliant on him 'doing the decent thing' and building the stadium and selling us on in an orderly manner.

But there is absolutely nothing stopping him from doing a Burnley on us and selling us to absolute shysters. And he will be more inclined to do that if we are blowing raspberries in his ear.

It's not an ideal situation, whatever way you look at it, but I'd not be organising demos against the board. We've still got way too much to lose. Better to praise and humour him, and hope against hope he finds a benign new owner.

A sit-in demonstration is planned at Goodison Park next month (4 February) after the fixture with Arsenal, Everton's first home game after the transfer window closes.

"We invite you to join us in expressing our discontent with the incompetent management of our beloved football club by the current owner and board of directors," the group wrote in an open letter to fans.

"For too long our club has fell behind our competitors on and off the pitch.

"We believe that it is time for change and that only by holding those in power accountable can we hope to see our team thrive on the pitch once more. Therefore, we will be convening immediately after the final whistle to make our voices heard and demand better leadership for the future of our club."

Results on the pitch will determine the level of support for this planned demo. If we've gone out of the Cup and lost to Brighton, Southampton and West Ham, then most of us will be there, at least in spirit.

If we've won a few then, the revolutionary zeal will be quelled.

I'm going to totter there regardless, though is this happening in the stadium or outside?

Theirin lies the problem. The results – good bad or indifferent – shouldn't determine the level of support for change but I suppose that's human (Everton?) nature.

Let's hope the different factions joining together make the point more forcefully.

How easy is it to go from one part to another after the game, and say all gather in the Lower Gwladys? If that is the plan, it might easily be defeated by only letting people leave and not letting fans from the Park End or Bullens Road get into the Gwlady for the sit-in.

And if they are then spread around the stadium, their impact will be minimized.

We are like a sausage maker when it comes to recruiting, ie, we get some good produce and grind them into shit.

Kenwright Out!!!

The last time fans stayed behind, unofficially, to protest was against Aston Villa last season when we lost 1-0, I think it was the Villa game not absolutely sure.

About 200-300 stayed behind, mostly younger fans, I watched from The Lower Bullens, they stayed for about an hour, I got off before that.

The players were coming out of the tunnel and walking across to the Stanley Park end going to the car park, Seamus Coleman turned round and acknowledged the fans with a wave, the rest just walked ahead except for a genuine Evertonian, Jonjoe Kenny – he stopped and walked back to the fans applauding them before going back up the pitch and off into the car park.

Most of the squad have no affinity to Everton, which is understandable in a way because they come from other parts of the country and world. So the only people who care about the club are us, the fans, year after year. If it wasn't for us, Everton FC would have disappeared into the lower leagues years ago.

I know we are quite rightly proud of our very long and illustrious top-flight history but I'd take relegation if it meant we are finally to be rid of the curse, just as long as we get in sensible owners with a plan.

I know that's the stumbling block; what happens if we get in shite owners? But if we are not prepared to take a chance, after the many long soulless years we have endured under Kenwright, then he's kidded the life out of a once very defiant set of supporters who have now got to really realise that it is only us who truly make Everton Football Club.

I'm absolutely certain that, even if we were in the Championship, the new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock would still have 50,000 gates for every home game. Just as long as we get rid of the curse!

You say "and many come up with reasons not to protest". So the alternative is let him glorify in the new stadium opening as we continue to stand still or worse with his yes-men employees.

Time to go. I know you feel the same as I seen you at the last 27 Years protest march. Loads of stumbling blocks ahead, eg, gagging the fans on Radio Merseyside etc, and no AGMs.

Where there's a will, there's a relative – as they say.

“Where there's a will, there's a fight” is another one, Brian, that might be the only way some people will turn against Billy Boy when he makes his will!!

One thing is for sure: when he goes, he won't come back as a phoney bastard, because you can't come back as the same person twice!!

My eyes were opened when the background to Barmby's transfer came to light, that we were literally hawking him around everywhere to sell him. I distinctly remember Bill at the time saying "I heard the words I never ever want to hear 'I want to play for Liverpool'."

And then the Rooney stuff too. He is not only a bare-faced liar, but he told those lies to the Everton fanbase for nearly a generation. He is an appalling chap.

But, in expressing a loathing for Kenwright, we could well compromise the club. We are in an incredibly vulnerable situation. We have debts running into hundreds of millions.

Were we to get relegated, it wouldn't be a case of just dropping to mid-table and licking our wounds for a couple of years. We would enter a death spiral, the debt total would multiply, and then we would start getting fined points for our debts, we'd have to sell all sellable assets just to satisfy the Premier League. We could well go out of business.

The alternative is we bite our tongue about a chap who is now 80, and wait for him to go in the normal way, a la Doug Ellis.

Another relegation flirtation this season should make his mind up for him.

But if the club is to win anything, there needs to be wholesale changes from top to bottom to get the club run properly. This will be a tricky transition, because of what the club has been managed into and because of the parties involved.

It is better to keep the pressure on, rather than leave them in their short-term comfort zone, which they have been in for years.

I totally agree about the financial death spiral. It's very real. However, I totally disagree about Kenwright being allowed to just remain. He needs showing up for the multiple lies he's told so we need a decent PR campaign and not let it go.

He's only 77 and isn't going anywhere unless he's ousted. But the fact that he is 77 and still involved in all facets of the club, having trousered millions, is a disgrace in itself.

I just can't see the point in removing Kenwright as the goal. That leaves the arch nincompoop in total control.

At least Bill has experience of making decisions that have worked. Farhad on his own would bankrupt us within months.

If Bill was taken out but Farhad remains, the club would effectively be ownerless. Nobody coming to the games, a salaried Barrett-Baxendale supposedly running things.

Whereas if crisis hits and Bill is still there, there is the prospect of him making better decisions than Farhad and of him being reached by the appeals of the fans.

If the plan is to remove both of them, there is the real risk that Moshiri becomes resentful. He has flushed half a billion down the toilet, only to be shown up by his own fans as not being wanted.

I can easily see how that situation could also spiral out of control.

I would be nervous of relegation, firstly, because of loss of income, and secondly, because the Football League Profitability and Sustainability rules would be rigorously implemented. After the Wimbleden game all those years ago, I did think relegation was needed to sort out the club, but it is past that now.

I think the best way is to target Kenwright continuously. Getting into trying to get the club run right is too structured of a solution, which suits Kenwright's style. He has created an alternative structure to preserve his own self-interest, manipulating the structure that would have properly run the club.

He needed to do that to get control of the club with no money, and maintain his position with no money by selling off what he could from the club without accountability. He has been successful in doing this, with a lot of people employed who are directly dependent on him for their positions.

Putting pressure on Moshiri with structured pressure is mostly likely to suit Kenwright and will result in a trumped-up takeover, which will result in Kenwright staying on. I believe the recent attempted takeover was such a trumped-up takeover.

We are dealing not only with a snake, but a weasel. We are not dealing with a standard structure but a structure created by Kenwright for his own interests and self-preservation. The 27 Years approach is trying to deal with a structure that does not exist, so normal communication channels do not exist.

Kenwright has little or no control over what happens in the club or on the pitch and people are still blaming him. I get that people are frustrated at where we are currently but it seems like some people are just looking for easy scapegoats.

What is the plan to move forward? Getting rid of Kenwright or sacking the board is not a plan.

In my opinion, it's this constant belief that we are entitled to success and instant solutions which leads us to continually make short-term decisions. Instead, we actually need patience.

We need to give Frank Lampard & Co time to build a team rather than continually sacking managers, rebuilding squads, wasting money on "instant fix" transfers.

I doubt there is anyone at all that has ever said or felt we are "entitled to success". I think you're mistaking us for that other lot across the park.

I don't think a club that has fans starved of success for 28 years could ever have those fans accused of being entitled. Nor could you accuse us of not being patient.

You're barking up the wrong tree by making this about the manager and talking about instant fixes. There is some truth about moving managers on; otherwise, we wouldn't have had Martinez sacked when he was, or Koeman when he was, or Silva when he was. Get the picture?

Then again, who appoints the manager? Who sacks them? But I think you're wildly misguided if you think people are looking for "easy scapegoats".

Kenwright is culpable because he is 'time served'. I've no idea what his day-to-day role might be but it's crucial to play down his role.

The owner has been involved to a point but has kept Kenwright at the club and has by proxy left the running of the club to those that remain. That is Kenwright, Barrett-Baxendale and maybe one or two others in the background. The senior one being Kenwright.

He's also been around whilst Everton has declined. The way in which Everton has been run and has declined, during Kenwright's tenure, almost tells you who takes the blame. And if you don't blame him, well it's damn negligence to have let the club continue to decline.

A fresh new owner and fresh new board is what is needed.

Getting desperate now, Bill. Time to clear off.

"Kenwright has little or no control of what happens in the club or on the pitch and people are still blaming him. I get that people are frustrated at where we are currently but it seems like some people are just looking for easy scapegoats."

Have you forgotten that one of our top players last season, Richarlison, was sold, because of the mess of our FFP? And who was sat in the meeting with Levvy? Just the one person, yours truly Bill Kenwright, selling off yet another of our sellable assets… not be long before Pickford and Gordon are sold as well.

He misplaced the Arteta money, he sold off Lukaku and never replaced him. Pickford and Richarlison should have been the team we built around. One has gone and I will not be suprised if Pickford follows, because all Bill is bothered about is what is best for Bill, and not Everton.

The 24/7 search for a buyer when the club was never for sale (confirmed under oath by Robert Elstone at the Kirkby inquiry).

The lies... the deals, someone sometime will write the book.
Eventually, he found his golden goose, what a goose, and stripped him of his golden eggs.

He has a wagon train of cohorts in a circle defending him. There are few ways he can be brought down whilst the goose wants away without further damaging his investment.

The reality is that the only protests that will pressurize Kenwright will be:

1. Exposure of lies so bad he has to be removed. Do they exist? Probably… but it would also mean someone would probably need to break a gagging clause.

2. The sale of the club. Without doubt, the most likely way he will be deposed. Hopefully sooner than later. The pressure must still be applied before that happens to ensure prospective owners don't fall into the same trap.

Strangely enough, I would support efforts by Moshiri to sell the club if it means the removal of Kenwright and his board. No matter how well-meaning Moshiri was and is, he has been done like a kipper by Kenwright… I bet he knows it too. Dress the turkey, don't let people see how much stuffing has gone in and get out.

Protest should highlight that we need a professional board, not just a "Board Out" slogan... it's not that simple; protest for what we need is required.

Moshiri, with a professional board and chairman who had control over recruitment finance and structure, would have succeeded. Sadly, his appearance came 10 years too late and he found he was dealing with the man who knows everything.

Moshiri in all likelihood would not, or could not have made some of the decisions he did if he had gotten rid of Kenwright early on and installed a professional board.

But his error of judgement cost him money and credibility, so he should be encouraged to sell, but we should try to ensure the current chairman and board are removed by the new owner. It pays to remember, mistakes are costly.

We have recruited a number of new active members and are adopting a much more collaborative approach with other fan groups and media outlets.

Clearly, the club cannot continue to be run in its current manner, there has to be extensive change at board and executive levels. We believe the only person who can bring about that change is Farhad Moshiri. The board and executive team are not going to voluntarily disembark from the Everton gravy train.

If Moshiri is unwilling or unable to effect such changes, then he should sell the club to competent owners who would almost certainly bring professional, competent people in to run the organisation.

We made the following statement to the Echo yesterday which should help clarify our thinking behind the planned 4 Februay sit-in:

Nice one, mate, glad you have clarified the set-up.

Is it true you are not based in the UK and that in itself got you criticised? Maybe I got it wrong. In this day and age of media, I'm sure you agree the movement needs a face and an accessible one to front it.

Anyway, we are all with you, mate.

I've always thought that it is easier to be kidded than it is to admit you've been kidded. So come on, Evertonians, how can a club prosper when we have a man at the top (he's not at the top, he does nothing!) ask Levy (who has negotiated two separate transfers in the last 12 months) who has only ever been interested in self-preservation, which is also something the once great Everton have been reduced to under his very long and deceitful tenure.

How can you turn on a 77-year-old man, how could you tape his interview? He's blue through and through but he's totally kidded you, and although he's never took a penny, he's made £millions.

Do you not think that Kenwright is going to be involved in any takeover? In the last attempted takeover, the takeover parties, including Bill's Man Utd mate, had talks in London with Kenwright before they went to talk to Moshiri in Monaco.

Everton's PR people seemed to be doing the PR for the half-baked Minnesota lot, prempting their future roles – even testing the waters on Kenwright's future role – pushing through the takeover, presenting it as a fait accompli.

Even briefing that it was still on after Moshiri had announced (note) by his London PR firm, that the takeover was off. Who do you think did the press release in September that the takeover was still alive?

Actually, NSNOW could be doing Kenwright a big favour by putting pressure on Moshiri, forcing him to run, leaving his cards and pot on the table. Who do you think will be first to grab the lot, especially when he has nothing to lose?

You need to target Kenwright, or else you all will be walking into the Lion's Den. You are not dealing with a normal structured organisation or situation, where the outcomes are clear-cut.

Even Kenwright's situation with Moshiri is unknown: Who is talking to the Premier League regarding Profit and Sustainability rulles and Ukraine sanctions? The new Everton Stadium is on schedule.

I have had people tell me for years that businesses were not run properly based on end-of-year accounts, but I found them highly profitable, touch wood. The problem at Everton is the resulting end product on the pitch, whilst others are doing nicely, thank you very much.

I believe it was under cross-examination that he was asked which directors were prepared to sell or dilute their shares to a new ones, where he admitted none of them were. Which of course was not what was being said by the owner.

I used to have transcripts of some of the details but long gone now, Tony. I dare say it's somewhere but not to hand... most of it got lost in the decision to can Destination Kirkby.

Or was that something I've just dreamt about?

"I absolutely understood the friction over the proposed move to Kirkby," Kenwright said. "So I was actually saying to the lad who was advocating the shared stadium that we've got sites in mind, but my favourite one is close to Goodison - it's not outside the city limits."

I've said many times what my stance has been… and yes, it's changed over the years. I have no issue changing my stance. Especially when it's been nearly 40 years of general decline.

Taking individuals out of it, which I know is difficult, the club's decline started with the lack of investment and forward thinking by a void in vision and absence of leadership at the top – almost from the moment we won our last league title. Looking back, the attitude in the corridors of power seemed to go about as far as "We're Everton, we'll be okay".

There's no entitlement to winning, but a club of Everton's stature, traditions and fanbase that somehow keeps coming back, expects to compete.

I won't quote Sir John Moores but his words are as pertinent as NSNOW's comment that Nil Satis Nisi Optimum isn't a motto – it's our standard! So something should be done about it.

Those words should underpin the motto (standard) and be put up on one of those banners that now drape the Gwladys Street stand before kick-off.

Mr Moshiri, several years too late, needs to wake up and replace his failing board. Either that or sell. I can't doubt his investment and the new Everton Stadium will leave a fine legacy, but he missed an opportunity by not taking control, and by allowing some who have been here since our decline set in from the late 80s to run the show.

Ahead of Manchester United and Arsenal in league title counts… Manchester City and Chelsea were yo-yo clubs bouncing between the leagues. It hurts me.

Old Trafford now and then. Stamford Bridge now and then. The Emirates and Tthe Etihad… The trophy count of those teams.

Some will cite good managers being the reason for those teams' success. I don't dispute that. But investment and leadership from the top down attracts better managers, just like it does better players.

It's matchday. I'm off to get nervous, anxious, excited and optimistic.

I have written before my view that we hit a perfect storm after the last league title, with a weakened team, a club suffering from not having been able to take advantage of a great team, and a boardroom lacking vision and drive with ebbing health of Sir John Moores, who retained all the power at the club despite his incapacitation due to illness, age and house burglary.

That situation carried on after his death as the Moores family seemed torn as to who to support – notably, for me, it was not Bill Kenwright at the time.

I often ponder what the Grantchester family really knew behind the scenes and how happy they were to sell their shares to Peter Johnson – out of his depth as he was, he still seemed the preferred candidate to Kenwright's team.

Also notably, everyone in Kenwright's original and subsequent consortium fell out with him, calling him out for breaching agreements.

I think the note given by Paul the Esk is sensible; many of us are desperate for change but removing the support to the team is extremely counter-productive in the current climate and I welcome the slight change of stance by the revised NSNOW position.

Frank Wolfe – I don't think waiting 30 years is impatient; your comment suggests all this is recent news – it is not. It is a long-term managed decline with one common denominator throughout.

I think the job of an owner is to provide the money so the manager can go and buy the players he wants. Whatever else is wrong with our ownership, they have provided money – so much so that we were nearly incurring a penalty for over-spending.

For me, the fault of Usmanov & Moshiri is that they didn't want day-to-day involvement in the club, so it suited them to leave Kenwright as Chairman.

I have said many times that Kenwright should have stepped down when Moyes left, and let someone else take the reigns. But I look at a lot of clubs in the Premier League and many are unhappy with their owners, which usually is driven by poor performances on the field.

Man Utd fans have been protesting about the Glazers for years, and up to a year ago, the Arsenal fans wanted Kronke gone, but I haven't heard a lot from their fans lately… and why? Because their team are doing brilliantly.

So I think, if the team are doing well, there is little dissent from the fans; if the team aren't doing well, then a lot of the blame is laid at the owner's door.

Now that's not to say that our owners and chairmen haven't made mistakes – they have made some huge errors, mainly hiring incompetents to manage the club. This has seen the club slide further and further down the Premier League, and may ultimately lead to relegation; the owners and chairmen can't shirk away from their responsibility if that happens.

The question is: Would new owners make a difference? Well, financially, probably not as we are still not in a position with FFP that new owners could alter too much on that score. And the trend in Premier League ownership seems split between Americans and oil-rich countries, neither of which appeal to me.

Maybe when the new Everton Stadium is built and if we are still in the Premier League, we may well be a more viable proposition for new owners… but that's still 18 months away.

Liverpool fail to win last season's aims; this season, the owners want to sell, performance sees a significant drop-off, games lost, peaked last year...

Selling up because the writing was on the wall?

End of the road for Klopp; 'decline' is right Tony... owners are cutting and running!

Our previous owner cut lots – indeed Everton is death by a thousand cuts personified, Now, as Chairman, he is refusing to run.

Tony,

The problem is we are not a threat to them anymore after the last 30 years. If we had been right on their tail or ahead of them over that period, then the comfort their fans have now would have been replaced with a lot more angst on their behalf.

I still have the belief that a run of success would see any number of the Sky Darlings worried, given our history is so deep… but we are getting perilously close to the tipping point for such hope, sadly.

Kenwright hung on knowing that the value of football clubs was slowly getting much higher; if it's true he purchased Everton with borrowed money, then that just confirms that I'm correct when I call him a great 'player'.

"Forget Everton, loads of the more gullible fans are onside and are just extremely grateful that I have never allowed them to be turned into a Leeds or a Nottingham Forest, and they always believe I've always had the club's best interests at heart."

He never had us for sale, and waited and waited until he finally got the perfect deal. He obviously believed his own ego, thinking that, now we had money, everything was going to be alright, but football just isn't like that.

His sidekick, David Moyes, had a very similar ego, and after being given the Manchester United job, he actually thought he'd made it and didn't realise you have to win to stay at a football club that demands success. No wonder these two had such a wonderful relationship.

We were that plucky, we never actually beat one of the big clubs away from home, and also usually came around where our wage bill indicated we should come?

Kenwright and Moyes might have perpetrated the myth, but it was us gullible Evertonians, who accepted it.

The Blue Union, and KEIOC, both got a very hard time off a lot of fans, but who isn't grateful we are moving onto the banks of the Mersey, (1 mile from the city) rather than watching our team play in Kirkby?

Even though we would have picked up a lot more footfall, if this outrageous, selfish and pathetic move, would have been given the go ahead.

The longer range scrutiny might well be from when we won the league in 87 and let Kendall go we very much rested on our laurels but probably you can take it back to 85 I was too young to know enough about the politics but I think Everton should have fought the ban. We were the best team in the land and we were shafted.

But moving in to the 90's and this century the club has definitely rested on its laurels. Mediocre on the pitch driven by mediocre off it. If the club lacks that drive to be the best or to compete with the best, then what happens is exactly what we got. As Danny points out. You can see it all around.

While other clubs had ambition, had objectives and a plan, we stalled. The ground being the most noticeable and so too our trophy haul and our finals count. Our European exploits. The successes and 'good times' we've had.

With a weak board and no plan to succeed, we don't have success on or off the pitch. The problem is we haven't particularly changed this ethos even with Moshiri.

A well run club will succeed. I suppose it also depends on what you deem as success and how much you want to succeed. I want Everton to be the best. If you look at the likes of City and Chelsea before them, then you have to imagine it is possible. Even for us, plucky little Everton.

But that's part of the problem right there. He's clinging on when he should have moved to some kind of Life Presidency role some time ago. But by clinging on he is also stopping new blood coming through. I think it's too late now he's not going unless we are bought out or he goes feet first.

Only me, you don't want to do it like that, just give us a ring when I'm in my office, and “i - will tell you“ what Everton, would have done.

What would you say to
Everton relegated - Kenwright quits
Everton stay up and win the FA Cup - Kenwright stays.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and no again.

I've wanted Kewright gone from this club for so long I even remember when a few of those shouting loudest now, were actually defending him.

No matter what we think of Kenwright. We as a club are bigger and we are here for the purpose of winning trophies. With or without him.

I understand why anyone would like to see the back of this slippery twat. but we cant let that cloud our dreams. He'll be gone soon - One way or another - but the club wont

In the meantime we MUST keep our premier league status. Only by doing that will the serious buyers be interested in us

The new stadium will be the game changer. Either Blue Bill will step away after performing the official opening or upon completion of the new stadium the club will be sold and Kenwight's services will no longer be required. Either way the "Age of Kenwight" will come to an end sooner rather than later.

Relegation would probably be terminal for us.

All this gesturing around sit ins and demonstrations means jack shit without large numbers of fans and media coverage.

Neither will happen so we will have to let history take it's course...unfortunately.

I agree with Kevin M, but with hearing that the sale of Everton, is in the hands of the solicitors, and the deal should have been done around a month ago, I'm just getting very concerned, that something is going to stop this deal. I'm very concerned because I believe Moshiri both needs and wants to sell, and this is something I can't wait for to happen myself.

I will then thank Moshiri, for having started building the new stadium, but then I will be glad to see the back of him because of the very unprofessional way, Everton have been run under his ownership.

Anyway, hoping it is (I'd like to say assuming it is!) then I can see our overiding priority is to stay up. A number of supporters seem to blame Moshiri for the state we're in. Maybe partially, for picking DoF's and managers. But overall, we are where we are because of Kenwright, from before the King's Dock, until now, it's him who's been the major figure in our decline. I've wanted to see the shyster gone, for decades! But now, we need no distractions from survival

Without Moshiri's money, I don't think we would be worrying about our future, we'd have already sunk.

I think now, it's time to just get behind our team in every match and do everything we can to help them keep us in the Premiership.

Bite the bitter bile of seeing him opening The Bramley Moore; and just hope that Moshiri, sees whatever deal he's involved in, over the line and we have new partners or new owners.

Several writers have written that one way or another, he'll be gone in a couple of years. If we do have new owners/partners, I think, like others, Kenwright's time will be up.

Now though, although it's emotionally understandable that it would be worth going down to see him gone; it wouldn't!

The most important few months in our history, are ahead. We escaped before but there must be no last minute nail biting moments now, no distractions about our number one aim. Stuff Kenwright,
Everton Football Club. our club, Have Got to Stay up.

Everyone loves a happy ending, and they are probably a playwrights dream, so hopefully soon Everton, are sold, and the curse can be lifted, with Everton minus Kenwright, running around Wembley with the cup!

That would suit me better Derek, obviously!

New owners may want total control of the club and not the have to deal with the teary one sticking his oar in at every opportunity.

If these rumours are true, they are supposedly going to be coming with a twist, but I might be getting told the biggest load of shite, imaginable, and this is probably also making me a lot more aggressive towards the only man who has probably felt like we have had some good times, despite him being responsible for the longest barren spell in our long history.

The fact that my original source is getting his information from somebody who has been involved in this type of deal before (takeovers) does give me hope, but I'm more nervous about this than I would be about defending a one - nil lead against Liverpool at Wembley, although I'd feel more confident of holding on if Kenwright is no longer with us!

Personally, the protests should continue every home game and beyond in the summer if required. Protesting is the only way forward.

Obviously the hope being that a takeover comes to fruition sooner rather than later and Kenwright departs along with the rest of his cohorts.

I'm parked up ready to take on the rain on my walk up to Goodison.

We may disagree over certain things, but our Everton bond remains.

Any other time, I would look at either Frank staying, or various managers being linked, but I just have this feeling Bill will be all over bringing Rooney in.

In regards to signings, again I am getting paranoid that just in time for the January window, Calvert-Lewin is thrown back in the team and Simms recalled from his loan.

Whether it's the poor service, or just simply Calvert-Lewin is not fully fit, or anywhere near it, I just cannot put my finger on it, but just in time for the January window, we have three strikers in the first team squad.

After going 4-nil down and half an hour to play, with nothing to lose, why did we not give Simms the last half-hour? Yet again, like Cannon, our young striker gets the last 8 mins.

This can no longer be an issue that divided Evertonians. The evidence is irrefutable. Without wholesale change to the leadership of our club, we will continue to sink.

The whole fanbase has to unite behind the call for Moshiri to change the Chair, board & executive. Bring professional, competent people into the business. Change the culture, now.

100% agree. I think even the most passive Evertonian has now reached the end of their tether.

As I understand it, Bill Kenwright is a minority shareholder. Any buyer acquiring Moshiri's majority holding would be obligated to extend that offer to all other shareholders – though they are under no obligation to sell.

If I have that wrong or incomplete, I'm sure Paul the Esk (or another poster with knowledge of how takeovers work) will correct me.

In football or any walk of life, a team cannot perform to its potential if it doesn't have good management. Management will do their utmost to succeed and protect their people with the resources they are given.

But an organisation cannot deliver unless it provides the conditions to set the management and team up to succeed. That starts with leadership at the top.

A simplistic view of life, but probably not far off reality. All the moving parts need to be in synch otherwise the wheels fall off.

Ancelotti's "magician" quote is all the more relevant this morning.

When we were desperately trying to claw ourselves out of the 90s, our leadership viewed survival as success. Many of us bought into and understood that.

Sadly, they haven't moved on. The Moyes - Kenwright partnership gave them respite as we, the masses, succumbed to the low expectation and development of a submissive culture.

But Moshiri's money and the stadium aside, the mentality hasn't changed. Be grateful for what you have and don't expect anything.

Total lack of ambition, vision or strategy. We threw the dice, spun the roulette wheel and lost money. We are no further forward.

Not for the first time, feeling very raw this morning, so give me a pass. I'll pick myself up off the floor for Friday. They don't deserve me, but they have me.

Have a lot of confidence in Tony's incites.It could explain the delay by the Board in signing contracts and lack of Transfer activity.The whole Club 's mind seems to be somewhere else and Frank looks like he has being told to thread water.

I wouldn"t be surprised if Kenwright is a sticking point in any takeover, because he is a real problem at Everton FC.Any serious investor in Everton could not have him stay on, and he is as greedy as fuck.

The fans won't be defeated. Ever.