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Everton interest in Jesse Lingard
Reports claim Everton are hoping to sign Jesse Lingard on a free transfer after his departure from Manchester United.
The 29-year-old is now officially a free agent after his contract at Old Trafford expired yesterday and he has been a target of former Blues boss David Moyes at West Ham after spending a productive loan spell at the London Stadium the season before last.
According to Paul Joyce of The Times and the Liverpool Echo, Everton have registered their interest in the England international who is attractive due to the fact that he wouldn't command a transfer fee, although he is rumoured to be seeking around £150,000 a week in wages.
The Echo claim that talks have already taken place for the attacking midfielder but he is one of a number of options being considered.
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2 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Lingard is 30 in December. His wage will likely be astronomical as he is a free agent and I can't see him signing anywhere for less than 3 years.
Atrocious decision making if the board wish to pursue this.
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4 Posted 01/07/2022 at
I think he is a good player but maybe a squad player not a direct replacement for Richarlison.
He still has two or three good years in him.
But maybe free transfers is all we can do at the moment until maybe the takeover happens.
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Had a decent spell at West Ham over a year ago now and yes he is a decent footballer but he's not the future.
It would be another very typically Everton move, offer a player a fat contract and a nice cushy place back close to home.
At a push I'd take him on a free or a loan deal (given his wages are likely to be well above what we should even consider playing)
12 Posted 01/07/2022 at
If he was happy to take a £60k contract plus performance bonuses for 3 years then maybe there'd be some value there. But by most accounts he's expecting twice that.
Let's try and give playing minutes and money to players who will develop and improve and then be a sellable asset for the most part. A few experienced and inexpensive pros to help guide the youth is useful but we already have Townsend to do this.
13 Posted 01/07/2022 at
With regards to his attributes, they stray onto what Dele Alli brings. Are the club thinking that we can get Lingard on a free, then offload Dele to avoid the four 㾶M fees? If the wages are right, it could be a pretty shrewd move.
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It's easy to say play the kids and give them a chance but we need some proven Premier League players at the same time; otherwise, our near-miss flirtation with relegation will become the real thing.
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I don't think (if there is any truth in this) that it is a matter of our club failing to learn, I think Frank and our DoF think he is the best available. None of us know the financial situation we will be in come the takeover, and this coming season might be one of "Make do and mend." Not so much a matter of who's best for the job, but who is the best that we can afford. I think that what Tony Everan says in his 2nd paragraph especially, is very near the mark!
I hope that from somewhere, among all our other needs, we can bring someone in who can stick the ball in the net around the 15 a season mark, at least.
Then if we can get a midfield general, it would be a decent start for the coming season. Any other weaknesses that can be addressed would be a brilliant start.
19 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Over his career he has roughly 50 goals in 270 appearances. Around 1 in 5 (though some may be sub appearances). It's pretty decent and better than most of our wingers but obviously not as impressive as his West Ham stint.
Like I said earlier he's a useful player but I'd be wary of huge demands when really we should be looking to develop the next Lingard or similar.
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The end of the transfer window is the 1st of September but better to get most the business done before the start of the season. Easier said than done though.
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23 Posted 01/07/2022 at
We simply can't afford to keep going this way. We need to invest in unknown players and turn them into stars, sell one every year and keep rising in the league. I wasn't a big fan of Moyes as manager but clearly he did his homework on recruitment for the most part (Richard Wright, Diniya Bilyaletdinov, and Simon Davies I will forgive) with people like Lescott, Baines, Coleman, Jagielka, Fellaini, Cahill, Arteta and Pienaar all bought for relative buttons and all could be sold on for big profit.
There are players out there of this ilk, but our recruitment has been poor since Martinez took over. Yes, Lukaku was great, but still big money; Barry excellent (McCarthy not bad until injured) but our recruitment must be the worst in the league this last 10 years.
The only unknown quantity bought who has succeeded during this time is Calvert-Lewin.
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He fits the bill perfectly for our recruitment model over the last 6 years.
26 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Apparently he's free.
27 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Boost the numbers and give us an option? Maybe.
But for those who are advocates of the buy young with potential and sell on value, he'll be 30 half way through this coming season and has never really established himself as a regular.
Worth a punt on loan? I'd say so. But not on a contract that I suspect we can hardly afford.
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29 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Hoping this is agents. However, I felt the same: "How will he play them both?" when we signed both Donny van de Beek and Dele Alli in January.
We also seem to be constantly linked to attacking midfielders elsewhere. Please Lord (Kendall), make Frank not be another Koeman who plays 11 good players and works out a system later.
30 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Let's remember agents go into overdrive in a transfer window, feeding journalists all sorts of nonsense to keep their clients in the public eye.
Let's hope, with the new owners likely to take over shortly, then our DoF and Frank Lampard will be in sole charge of transfers, as should be the case.
How much dialogue is going on between our manager and our DoF with the new owners I don't know but hopefully they will allow them to pursue the players they are after as long as it comes within what budget they have set.
31 Posted 01/07/2022 at
I didn't think I'd see the words 'Gomes' and 'capable' in the same sentence ever again after last season's performances.
32 Posted 01/07/2022 at
If Lingard signs, then I can see us selling a midfielder as he's not a forward like Richarlison.
Anyway, I liked us better under Moyes when we didn't have a pot to piss in. We had a defined style, were organised and hard to beat. I wouldn't mind a bit of that next season.
33 Posted 01/07/2022 at
My view though, is that, if the DoF and the Manager both are keen on him (again, if it is not a rumour, like the Spurs lad was), then I'd go with them, not fellow supporters. No slight intended but those two men, if they stay in their positions come the takeover, are going to rebuild this team.
The financial circumstances are, at best, very iffy. Then there's the problem of attracting good players to a possible relegation candidate this coming season. Good players want to leave us, not join us.
I haven't seen much to make me think Dele Alli is going to do what he was doing 4 or 5 years ago; and he might be going back to Spurs.
So I'm rather thinking that this club has learnt nothing, I'll wait and see what players we choose and what financial circumstances we're in…
34 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Now, is he worth that?
Sam #16, a whole lot of those games are sub appearances, and often brief ones at that. Lingard has 165 Premier League appearances, but they total 9225 minutes, or an average of only 55 minutes a game. In those games, he scores a goal every 318 minutes and has a goal involvement every 200 minutes, which is really pretty good for a winger. That's way better, for example, than Andros Townsend -- a somewhat similar player whom we signed on a free, and with whom most of us have been pleased.
I give this idea a cautious thumbs-up. If Lingard came to us with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove, as Gray and Townsend did, he could be a major contributor.
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37 Posted 01/07/2022 at
You beat me to the punch with the point on amortization of a transfer fee which is also an upfront payment so does not help cashflow either.
A lot of players as we have found are now running their contracts down in the interests of getting a big salary (eg, Tarkowski).
My only question is are these the sort of characters to build a squad around and how the rest of the squad feel about these guys getting twice what they are being paid.
38 Posted 01/07/2022 at
I expect on top of those wages there will be a hefty signing bonus. Maybe somewhere between ٣M and ٦M. I also expect he'd be on a 3-year contract surely?
Without doing the exact maths, it could be similar I expect to paying 㾼M for Keane Lewis-Potter (or similar) and paying him 㿞k per week. The difference is, at the end of 3 years, Lingard would leave for absolutely nothing and Lewis-Potter (or similar) may hopefully leave for 㿔M!!
You're right that Lingard's end product per minute is pretty decent. We've signed a lot worse. I'd be curious to see what he could offer Everton but, for the main part, I want us to move past these short-term moves.
Unlike someone like Tarkowski, Lingard's game depends to a degree on energy and burst of acceleration; something he'll begin to lose fairly soon aged 30 depending on how good a shape he stays in.
Just feels very much like the move the Everton of the last 5 years makes; I'm hoping to see a new approach.
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40 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Nobody can say that he wouldn't be a good buy and he may be exactly what we need. I trust the club to do the right thing in the circumstances. We are in pretty dreadful shape and special things are called for.
Crazy as it sounds, a couple of tweaks and a good change in attitude and we could be a Top 8 side next season.
41 Posted 01/07/2022 at
With regards to your other point, it doesn't bother me a bit -- or speak to character issues IMO -- if a player tries to max out his income. I'd be more concerned about the character of a player who was jealous of somebody else's paycheck. But I really don't think it will be an issue. If Gomes being paid 𧴨K/week for being useless hasn't incited a full-scale rebellion, nothing will.
Sam #36, I agree wholeheartedly, but any new approach will have to wait until we're out from under the current financial morass. I'm not hopping around the room with joy at the prospect of Lingard, but we have a lot of needs right now and very slender resources.
43 Posted 01/07/2022 at
When we had money, we messed up royally and I don't absolve the previous DoF either during the period he was here.
Martin (@38), I don't agree with you over Kenwright's influence in this club but I do agree with your post. In my view, it's easy to say what choice of player a poster fancies or says we should buy, but none of us have a clue on what monies will be available, what players will be available, who would want to come of be persuaded to come if we offer enough wages.
So, if the Manager and DoF reckon the player they pick is the best available at the money we need to shell out, are supporters already saying they don't trust this team to get the most suitable players in that they can?
44 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Sam #36 - that Lewis-Potter argument is gold. Value at end, not dead money we are too used to writing off transfer fees we seem to now think it is ok to do so and can be offset against the wages.
45 Posted 01/07/2022 at
I would prefer us giving one of our own younger players a chance but, depending on the terms, bringing in Lingard, a proven goalscorer with an agenda to prove himself and on a free transfer, could be a good move.
We have a number of midfielders but none of them are goalscorers and we still need a Zinchenko type of midfielder to provide goal-scoring opportunities and this is the area, if we have the funds, where we need a quality player.
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58 Posted 01/07/2022 at
Who's running it? I've listened to a few episodes. I'd be interested in offering my own segment on talent spotting
It's a topic I feel strongly about. Particularly amongst occasion where my football club is being linked with Jesse Lingard and Harry Winks.
59 Posted 01/07/2022 at
The offer is 㿵k a week and 㾸M fee spread over 3 years.
That make you all feel better?
Sorry just read earlier threads and Mike Gaynes had already said similar although he then quotes Sam Hoare's figure which comes to 𧴮k per week and his 𧴼k per week.
We are probably all economists.
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I know everything is relative but still seems like a lot of money for someone who could be nothing more than a bit-part luxury player if his appetite has waned.
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64 Posted 01/07/2022 at
But will Jesse Lingard offer something better for the next couple of seasons? David Moyes has ended his interest in signing Jesse Lingard on a free. Not because of any West Ham financial problem… probably he just believes they would not get value for money for the money he wants; he is 30 later this year.
65 Posted 01/07/2022 at
A good alternative shout would be Sam's point about Lewis-Potter, but would Lingard's experience be better for us at the moment?
Still, what do I know... except he's better than Harry Winks!!
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67 Posted 02/07/2022 at
The trouble is, Lingard's record over more than a decade suggests he won't do a job; not for more than a few months at a time. The same pattern through his whole career. Look at his loan history.
Man Utd rediscovered this when he returned from West Ham. Back amongst his "I'm gangsta" buddies in the North West. Rare great spell at the Hammers; comes back – nothing.
Ability without stability. I wouldn't fancy him for cheap. Even halving the kind of salaries mooted, it's way too much, even on a free.
68 Posted 02/07/2022 at
The knowledge of the market is diabolical, there are plenty of players worth buying who are reasonably priced and whose value will only go up but they only have eyes for deadbeat OAP players. It's pathetic. They never learn.
69 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Like I said, the deal has to be right and I wouldn't touch him at the wages that are being mooted.
70 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Personally, I thought Fraser Forster in a free was a no-brainer... again Spurs snapped him up. Now I read Andrea Belotti is going in a free? Weren't we once linked with him?
Anyway the silence from the board is deafening, as usual this time of year. We'll end up with the scraps on deadline day just to save a few quid on wages.
71 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Much better value out there – Grillitsch, Isco, Eriksen, Belotti – all on frees.
72 Posted 02/07/2022 at
To take the comparison further, are we now shopping at Poundland and food banks?
73 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Genuine question. They've done the wrong thing time and time again for many years.
74 Posted 02/07/2022 at
I think (still not seen officially) Tarkowski is of a similar age and on a similar salary.
I don't think either is an upgrade or what we need so I'd swerve, but it's interesting to read more negative reviews about Lingard than Tarkowski.
75 Posted 02/07/2022 at
To me, buying a player on the slide, with no motivation is a bad mix. Yes, you can get a Gough or a Barry, but mainly you get expensive players going through the motion.
That 㾻-20M in wage commitments should be put into either a higher calibre player, or a player with more potential that takes us forward or has a resale value.
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Why aren't we able to find gems that other teams regularly unearth For fuck's sake!? What is wrong with this club?
78 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Paul Joyce is reporting this, so there must be some truth to it. if so, I suppose we can assume Dele Alli no longer fits the bill cos you would never surely have those two in the same team. And if that s the case, what the fuck was Frank thinking of when he bought Alli?
I thought Lampard was going to be a serious developer of players, and here we are stuck with Dele Alli on sky-high wages, and we are trying to get in Lingard on a similar deal.
And this is after Benitez was given less than ٠M in transfer funds last year cos we've got no fucking money. If we end up with another bunch of mercenaries at season's start, he'll be out by Christmas, and round and round we go…
79 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Gary 65, Belotti is a great shout.
80 Posted 02/07/2022 at
He may not have had a settled run in the team at Man Utd, but he would have walked into our team over the last 5 seasons.
Question surely is could he contribute anything now and is he worth the gamble? Like I said, depends on the terms of the deal.
81 Posted 02/07/2022 at
It was interesting to read Brands speaking about the club and it's nonsensical recruitment policy.
82 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Once again, he's a 29-year old nearly man. I would much rather invest in a 20-25 might well be man.
83 Posted 02/07/2022 at
While I have no faith whatsoever in Kenwright nor Moshiri, I do have hope that Lampard and Thelwell know what they're doing.
84 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Who do you think would've kept him out? Are you saying he couldn't have played alongside Richie who very often was used up the middle?
Would agree about looking for young talent, but how old is Tarkowski again? Oh, that's right 29 on a 4-year contract!
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86 Posted 02/07/2022 at
Almost sounds like those asking if any others are interested buying Everton when we have/had an exclusivity agreement with the first interested party.
87 Posted 02/07/2022 at
I actually think he could prove a great signing for us but I think professional opinion may be that he is Tom Cleverley bar a 6-month spell at West Ham.
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89 Posted 03/07/2022 at
We need to drop 20 goals from the 66 we surrendered last season.
With that, the only way Tarkowski genuinely improves the Side by himself is if his arrival gets Holgate out of the lineup forever.
Except Tarkowski in the line-up won't alone cut our goals conceded by 20. Him or any defender is going to have it tough if we enter next season still allowing platoons of opponents running wind sprints around and thru our midfield.
Fixing the defense first. Pacy midfield yard dog or two please. I'll settle for one.
And c'mon with Lingard,
10 years on, always done just enough to stay in a team and show just enough to get the next contract. A poster boy to justify, "They don't care. They just want to collect money, get the fast cars and girls, etc."
He has skill, so no doubt another paycheck is coming to him. Just not with us, please.
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92 Posted 04/07/2022 at
Why would we bother? Unless he feels he can bring something to the club, he should be shunned. Too many players with the same mentality at the club, just collecting a paycheck.
93 Posted 04/07/2022 at
Alongside that, we have The Mirror telling the world we may sell Gordon for 㾶M (and to null Dele 㾶M payment). Another load of shite.
We really are detested by the press, but we do ourselves no favours in allowing them to get away with it. I don't expect the club to comment on every bit of speculation, but a robust shoot-down PR statement now and then would be appreciated.
“Despite paid journalists reporting otherwise for column inches and this months pay packet, Everton are not going to be selling any of our players for anything other than the highest rates. We will also not be bringing any player in who thinks we are anything other than their primary choice†would do for now.
Maybe next owners can bring a real PR team to get ahead of the game and start getting the press backing us instead of belittling us. We are back to “plucky Everton†again. Fuck off, Bill.
94 Posted 04/07/2022 at
I hope you're right, but to me it looks like his agent is putting it out that, although Everton have offered him a contract (not what he was looking for), he is still open to offers.
Although I think he would be a good asset, as I have said numerous times, we need to forget looking at marquee players who are surplus to the Big 6 (that used to include us once) and find young, hungry, up-and-coming talented players, with big engines who will fight for the club (with hearts like Seamus and Richie).
95 Posted 04/07/2022 at
We want young hungry players with potential to improve. We are looking for the next Broja or Gallagher, they are out there and it's the job of the DOF to find them.
96 Posted 04/07/2022 at
Frank must have seen enough of Dele to have made his mind up. He barely used him in our relegation dogfight but perhaps Frank will now try to incorporate him with Richarlison gone.
97 Posted 04/07/2022 at
Players like Lingard are always gonna be looked on favourably by managers who are always 6 games from the sack.
He'll be signed as someone who can be relied upon, be good enough. A 20-year-old rough diamond is maybe too much of a risk.
Ideally if Lingard does come, he'd be joined as well by the 20-year-old.
A combination of experience and youth. but hopefully not just a lot of 29-year-olds.
98 Posted 04/07/2022 at
Hallelujah, I'm glad someone agrees and knows the remit of a DoF because this is the third time of asking and so far we haven't seen it.
99 Posted 04/07/2022 at
I don't want to only sign 29-year-olds on free transfers this summer, but him and Tarkowski might be good for the likes of Patterson. And it allows money to be spent on hopefully younger longer-term signings for the midfield.
100 Posted 04/07/2022 at
On the other hand, if he gets back to the way he was, he will be a big asset to us if he stays or goes.
101 Posted 04/07/2022 at
I'm one of the few Evertonians who doesn't rate Gordon. The lad is all dash and effort, so I for one would be happy for him to be the makeweight in a Spurs deal for Alli. Assuming that is, that Lampard has seen something we as yet haven't.
I believe Lingard would be an excellent acquisition if we can secure his services. He was brilliant for the Hammers last season and could provide that missing ingredient we have so badly lacked for so long.
102 Posted 04/07/2022 at
Officials at the club remain positive and are tracking the weather forecast for signs of an unseasonal cold front.
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