Season › 2023-24 › General Forum The Ups and Downs of the Original Twelve — Part I By John McFarlane [Senior] 08/07/2023 Share: Hi all, I thought that with the site being swamped with posts related to the current situation, that I could take the opportunity of introducing examples of football prior to the formation of the Premier League. Accrington Founded: 1876Ground: Peel Park. Sandwiched, as Accrington is, between Blackburn and Burnley, only enthusiastic local loyalty could provide sufficient support to guarantee any football club in the town a stable position in the Football League. The present club is the successor of the Accrington FC, which was one of the twelve original members of the Football League in 1888. For five seasons the club remained in the First Division, but only once in 1889-90 did it reach as high as 6th in the League table. After season 1892-93, Accrington dropped out of the Football League, and as Accrington Stanley joined the Lancashire League, of which it remained a member until after the First World War. An original entrant into the Lancashire Cup competition in 1879, Accrington won this trophy three times, in 1881, 1888, and 1889. Aston Villa Founded: 1874Ground: Villa Park Lads connected with the Aston Villa Wesleyan Chapel, having got themselves a football, they turned themselves into Aston Villa FC in 1874. They were coached by a Scotsman named George Ramsey, and their ground rented at £5 per annum, was at Perry Barr. Soon they were in local cup-ties, and as their fame spread and their gates increased, so did their landlord's demands for more rent. By 1880 the "Vllans" had won the Birmingham Cup, having been runners-up in 1876, (this trophy they captured sixteen more times before the First World War). Then they beat Walsall Swifts 4-1 in the Staffordshire Senior Cup in 1881 and subsequently won that cup on fourteen occasions before 1932. The Lord Mayor of Birmingham's Charity Cup in 1882 was the next honour, and 1882-83 saw them making headway in the National Cup [FA Cup] competition, which they first won in 1887 by beating their neighbours West Bromwich Albion at the Oval. Villa was an automatic selection for inclusion in the Football League in 1888, especially as William McGregor the "League's Father" was connected with the club. They retained a place in Division 1 until 1936, being League Champions six times in 1884, 1896, 1897, 1899, 1900, and 1910. For two seasons they dropped into Division 2, but from 1939 to 1955, whilst they were never in danger of relegation, they came near to it in season 1955-56, and in 1959 the blow fell at last. Although since 1939 they have only twice passed the sixth round of the FA Cup, they have figured in sixteen semi-finals and in nine finals of which they have won seven, which is a record. In 1892, in the last Cup Final played at the Oval, they lost to West Bromwich Albion but, at Crystal Palace in 1895, the result was reversed. Within 30 seconds of the kick-off, John Devey had scored, and thousands never saw that winning goal, as they were shuffling into their places or reading their programmes. Then Villa 'lost the Cup' – it was stolen from the window of a shop in which it was on exhibition. In 1897, they won the new trophy by beating Everton in a hectic rush of some 25 minutes, during which all five goals were scored, three by Villa. Then came 1905 with Newcastle United in opposition, over 101,000 people were there and Harry Hampton and Howard Spencer proved to be the masters. Then Sunderland, in the final for the first time, and soon to be League Champions, tried to overwhelm them in 1913, over 120,000 were there to see this "Homeric" fight. Near the end, right-half Barber headed home from a corner kick, and Villa had equalled the record, they had won the Cup five times. The sixth success was at Stamford Bridge in 1920, when the only goal came in extra time, something that had never taken place in a Cup Final. Again it was a corner kick which provided the lead-up, but this time the ball hit Kirton on the back of his head and he scored without knowing that he had done so. By this, Villa established another record: no club had ever won the Cup six times, until Andy Ducat took it from the present Duke of Gloucester. In 1924 at Wembley, it was Newcastle again, but in the last eight minutes, the debt of 1905 was squared. Newcastle scored twice, and it was not until 1957 that Villa succeeded in reaching another final, where they won 2-1 against Manchester United. Blackburn Rovers First formed in 1874, re-formed 1875Ground: Ewood Park Over 80 years of age and still active! To condense the story of the "Blue and Whites" into a short chapter is to summarize its highlights. Formed originally in 1874 by Old Boys of Blackburn Grammar School, John Lewis and Arthur Constantine ably assisted by A N Hornby, and by such Old Malvernians as Fred and John Hargreaves, and D H Greenwood. After it became known as Blackburn Rovers in 1875, the club was the darling of the Gods in the eighties, the first northern team to challenge the superiority of the southern Old Boys clubs in Cup matches. They emulated and equalled the record of the earlier Wanderers, by winning the FA Cup in three successive seasons, winning it on three more occasions and appearing no less than fifteen times in the semi-finals. One of the original members of the Football League in 1888, Blackburn Rovers stayed in Division 1 until 1936, when they fell into Division 2, returning to the higher grade in 1939 but again losing their place in 1948. Twice, in 1912 and 1914 they were League Champions, and gained third place on three other occasions 1890, 1910, and 1915. In 1954, they missed promotion by one point only, but in 1958 finished runners-up and rejoined the top Division. Many are the stories connected with the Rovers, in their first season they won every match, and as they had no ground, they were all won away from home. In 1879, they first entered both the FA Cup and the Lancashire Cup competitions. In 1880-81 they played forty-one matches, losing five and scoring 214 goals to 52. By 1911, they had won the Lancashire Cup eleven times, an easy record. But probably the great contribution of the Rovers to the game has been in the status of the players which it has provided in international matches, and in the loyalty which the club has had from its members. Who can overlook the influence of the great Bob Crompton, captain of England for more than a decade? Romance too, is attached to their grounds, the first one had a pool in the middle, which the players covered over with planks and sods of grass. Then in 1876, they obtained Alexandra Meadows, where in 1879 a gate of 5,000 saw them play Partick Thistle. In 1890 the club took a ten years lease of Ewood Park, spent £1,000 on improving the ground and bought it in 1894 for £2,500. It was here in 1922 that J McIntyre scored four goals in five minutes against Everton. The restoration of the highest class of football to Ewood Park in 1958-59, was reflected in much improved attendances, the season's average being substantially higher than anything previously experienced in the club's history. Acknowledgement: Association Football – The Caxton Publishing Company Ltd, 1960 Reader Comments (27) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () John McFarlane Snr 1 Posted 10/07/2023 at 13:36:02 Hi all, it's not vanity that prompts me to submit this post, I know that there are more important subjects to discuss, but the response will determine whether or not it will be worthwhile to continue, with at least another three more submissions. Tony Abrahams 2 Posted 10/07/2023 at 13:44:53 Please do John Mc, because this is a major part in the history of how English football began.I was reading about Villa, with great interest because I think it is between us and them who have done the best out of the “original twelve†and I found it very disappointing when the Premier League refused Everton's request to play Aston Villa in the opening game of our 100th top-flight season.League football in this country didn't begin with the introduction of the Premier League, it began with the introduction of the original twelve. Kieran Kinsella 3 Posted 10/07/2023 at 13:45:22 JohnIt's funny you mention Villa and their early success in the cup. I remember even as a kid in the 80s Saint and Greavsie talking about Spurs in 87 and the possibility they could usurp Villa as the cup kings. I didn't realize that even then their success had been a lifetime ago. John McFarlane Snr 4 Posted 10/07/2023 at 14:54:58 Hi Tony [2] the seasons referred to, were from 1888-1959 for League records, and although the F.A. Cup was first staged in 1872, Blackburn Rovers reached their first final in 1882, losing 1-0 to Old Etonians. The following season Blackburn Olympic beat Old Etonians 2-1, and for the next three seasons Blackburn Rovers won the Cup, meaning that the trophy spent four years out of five, in the town. Danny O’Neill 5 Posted 10/07/2023 at 15:41:48 Great historical analysis on the founding fathers of the English professional game John Senior.I'll read out the detail on Villa to the wife. Like Everton, a very big club with a huge support base. Until City's recent surge, I think they were only second to us in terms of League titles and have won two European Cups (read Champions League in modern speak). Please do continue. Looking forward to the next instalment.I can't wait until you get to Everton.And the next meeting outside Goodison! John McFarlane Snr 7 Posted 10/07/2023 at 17:13:54 Hi Danny [5],I'm pleased that you enjoyed my article, I feel that it would have received a better response if it was allocated a space on the 'Recent Comments' where my articles have usually been. As a one finger 'Typist', it takes me quite some time to complete, and as it's tucked away well down the site, I wonder if it's worth the effort. You can imagine how long it will take me to complete the histories of the remaining nine clubs. Mark Murphy 8 Posted 10/07/2023 at 17:28:31 “Until City's recent surge, I think they were only second to us in terms of League titles.†Erm Danny? I love the blues too but I don't think that's quite right?? John, fascinating stuff – I look forward to the next instalments! UTFT Tony Abrahams 9 Posted 10/07/2023 at 17:29:22 I'd sooner read about something that I find interesting John Mc, so I will keep looking for the rest of this series mate.I can't seem to come on ToffeeWeb without slagging Mr Kenwright anymore, and I find it really disheartening reading any of the threads about who we might sign, although I did watch a game of football on Saturday night, for the first time since Everton beat Bournemouth, which can only be a good sign because last season totally drained me.I've also long been of the opinion that the original twelve should have got together and made a little badge of honour, something for the rest to put in their pipes and smoke, maybe! Jay Harris 10 Posted 10/07/2023 at 17:35:46 Great post, Sir John.Please keep it going as history is so important given the current penchant for living for today.So many youngsters need to be educated on how and when it all started and I personally look forward to all your fascinating posts on nostalgia. Danny O’Neill 11 Posted 10/07/2023 at 17:42:22 Tony, the last two seasons have exhausted me.Mark, true story. After last season, Man City have now equalled our 9 times league top flight champions haul. Villa remain on seven.I worded it slightly wrong but until last season they were only second to us.See you next season.And keep them coming, John. We need to reflect during pre-season. Otherwis,e I'll go into anxiety and I've had enough of that recently with Everton.I look forward to catching up, be that on County Road at the Harlech Castle or at the Bramley Moore.Keep posting. Stephen Davies 12 Posted 10/07/2023 at 17:49:06 I enjoy history in general and football history in particular.I was chatting to some smug Newcastle fans the other day who, when I asked them what year they were founded and what year did they last win the league (1st Division) was met with 'erms' and blank faces… Mark Murphy 13 Posted 10/07/2023 at 18:08:39 Sorry, Danny - maybe I'm misunderstanding? Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal are all above us on titles? Do you mean Villa are the next after us?? Rob Halligan 14 Posted 10/07/2023 at 18:11:01 Mark, I think Danny means, out of the original twelve founder members of the Football League, we have won the most Championships (nine), followed by Aston Villa with seven. Barry Hesketh 15 Posted 10/07/2023 at 18:22:31 Below is a Wiki link to an abridged story of the first league season.1888-89Preston must have a claim to have won the League at the earliest possible date, as they claimed the Championship in the first week of January, with 3 games to play. John Burns 16 Posted 10/07/2023 at 18:53:49 Superb article, John. I love historical content and the way it weaves its way through time. Thank you. Danny O’Neill 17 Posted 10/07/2023 at 19:01:25 As Tony always says, we can become the first club to win the top flight title in three different centuries when we get our tenth.Only Villa can challenge that. Danny O’Neill 18 Posted 10/07/2023 at 19:12:55 As it stands:Manchester United on 20Lucifer's children on 19Arsenal on 13Everton and Manchester City on 9Aston Villa on 7Sunderland and Chelsea on 6Newcastle and Sheffield Wednesday on 4Wolves, Blackburn, Leeds and Huddersfield on 3Preston, Derby, Burnley, Portsmouth and (big club) Tottenham on 2 (last time 1961)Then you have Ipswich, Forest, Leicester, Sheffield United and West Brom on 1 eachI hope I haven't missed anyone. Brendan McLaughlin 19 Posted 10/07/2023 at 19:29:26 Danny #18Reading that, I'm optimistic we're more likely to achieve another title before many of the other clubs on the list.Your optimism may indeed be infectious or perhaps it's the wine... Dale Self 20 Posted 10/07/2023 at 19:29:59 John Sr. please complete the series. The format of the history and your impressions of the 12's contributions are hitting the right notes. I usually give historical perspectives a look but never really dig in. This could change that. Larry O'Hara 21 Posted 10/07/2023 at 19:59:59 All very interesting John, a welcome antidote to the depressing present. John McFarlane Snr 23 Posted 10/07/2023 at 20:05:38 Hi Mark [8], I think that Danny meant of the 'original twelve' as Rob [14] suggestedHi Tony [9], Regarding recognition for the Original Twelve, I have no doubt that the so-called Top 6 will be feted for their efforts in the near future.HI Jay [10], I was certainly educated 'football wise' by my Granddad and six Uncles. I would stay up until they came home from the pub, and listen to them talking about Dixie Dean, Warney Cresswell etc. My Granddad used to wax lyrical over Alec Young, Jack Sharp etc.Hi Danny [11], I too look forward to meeting up again, but I would prefer to meet in the Bramley Moore pub after a game, I found standing outside of the Harlech Castle wasn't the best way to exchange opinions. I'll be 85 on Saturday and I'm not too good on my feet, and to stand in a busy street for an hour or so is not my idea of a quiet afternoon.Hi Stephen [12], I suppose every club has people like the ones you refer to, what I quite often do is tell the 'Red Necks' "You and I have something in common" and when their eyes light up I say, "I can't remember my first game and you can't remember your last." Mark Murphy 24 Posted 10/07/2023 at 20:11:43 Ahhhh… now I see. Thanks, Rob and John – sorry for being dim! UTFT! Dennis Stevens 25 Posted 13/07/2023 at 16:53:45 My understanding is that the current Accrington Stanley is the successor club to the previous Accrington Stanley that went bust in the '60s. However, the Accrington FC that Everton beat in their first League match was a different entity and the original Accrington Stanley was formed a few years before the demise of Accrington FC, only changing the club name from Stanley Villa to Accrington Stanley at this pointI doesn't help that all three entities seem to have played in red! Ian Pilkington 26 Posted 13/07/2023 at 17:41:53 John,Thank for an interesting article, looking forward to the other parts.Following Denis's comments regarding the various Accrington clubs, perhaps I could clarify that Accrington FC (founded 1878) played at Thorneyholme Road, sharing with Accrington Cricket Club (founded 1846) which still plays there.Peel Park was used by the original Accrington Stanley until it was dissolved in 1966 and never used by either Accrington or the current Accrington Stanley. John McFarlane Snr 27 Posted 13/07/2023 at 18:04:32 Hi Ian, [26] according to the book published by Caxton publishing company, Accrington were founded in 1876, and when they dropped out in 1893, they took up the name Accrington Stanley. I think that Dennis [25] is right in saying that they added the word Stanley, after a street or a pub. I remember reading it somewhere, it may well be in one of my books. Regarding the next posting, it's already on this thread "The ups and downs of the Original Twelve – Part II" Bill Watson 28 Posted 16/07/2023 at 23:56:08 Hi John,Happy belated Birthday Wishes and I agree with you that meets at the Bramley Moore would be preferable to a pre-game Harlech Castle. I've only just noticed your by-line on the list and fully intend to read all of themThanks for reminding me that football before the Premier League wasn't just a figment of my imagination!!In my school days, I was fascinated by the exploits of Blackburn Olympic and then their sudden disappearance. Were they a posh boys public school outfit and do you know if they later had any connection to the soon-to-be professional Blackburn Rovers? Paul Ferry 29 Posted 17/07/2023 at 00:19:06 Forgive my ignorance John, but did ]ack Sharp the player have anything to do with the sports shop of the same name (I think it was the same name) that was on Whitechapel when I was growing up in the 1970s? Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. 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