Can We Be The Surprise Team?

Brentford – with Brighton and Aston Villa in the frame – did it last season and it happens every season. What about us, with Sean Dyche unloading the stale, not-up-to-it, and gimpish ones, with seemingly a few quid squirrelled away if rumoured bids are true?
The differential between top players and the level below seems not that great; it doesn't seem to be about ability but whose books they were on. Unheralded young players with a modicum of ability and desire must be around somewhere and, if we can get a few, it isn’t a massive step to give challenging clubs a bloody nose.
The club drives me up the wall, to be honest, but I know there is something different here. Leicester had a better team but were relegated because they didn’t have it. It is an entity.
“The Everton Entity” (Rathbone dictionary):
“A visceral defiance when faced with oblivion, a circling of the wagons, bristling with fire and determination, the epitome of “they shall not pass” — fearsome, indomitable. With eyes strained in narrow focus and the cathedral at full volume, the spirits of Labone, Ball, Kendall, Dean, Hickson, Young, Gabriel and so many more will be seen marching with the lads to Z-Cars. It stems from roots being deeper into the soil than almost any other, with a glorious history that can never be erased.”
It is in our gift to unleash this precious entity and inspire.
If we can, mere prevailing will be an afterthought; we will rise again.
Unleash the entity, it is our time to be that team.
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2 Posted 22/07/2023 at 00:53:36
3 Posted 22/07/2023 at 01:00:22
I love the article, mate. Plenty of folks give you the elbow on here for some of your sardonic posts. But to me, you're like the darker version of Colin Glassar. Both intelligent, both insightful… just one is a little more prone to dark pragmatism.
Anyway, I for one am unsurprised to see a bit of optimism from you even if delivered in your classic "glass half-empty" style.
4 Posted 22/07/2023 at 05:49:37
We're going to go one of two ways.
Sink without a trace, as we were doing under Lampard –remembering that he also gave us some hope after avoiding the drop. History may well repeat.
Or else, we might be hard to beat and just avoid relegation.
It's inconceivable to me that we do anything else. And I still think the former is more likely than the latter. The squad isn't getting any better. Why would we improve?
5 Posted 22/07/2023 at 06:26:53
I would add West Ham to that list.
It wasn't long ago, even last season, that they were in the relegation mix. A modest 14th position finish only 4 points above an Everton team that survived on the last day. They had a negative goal difference, but won a European trophy and are in Europe again next season.
So again, why not?
6 Posted 22/07/2023 at 06:58:28
With Dyche in charge, we will at least be fit, organised and hard to beat. We still don't have much in terms of quality but I think we can finish mid-table.
I expect the usual Top 6 or 7 will be the same, Chelsea and them others to have a better season than last, and the likes of Brighton, Fulham and Brentford to drop off a bit.
7 Posted 22/07/2023 at 07:31:18
No.
All of them have done what I've seen them do in my lifetime. Got relegated again. West Brom, Norwich, even Wolves (padlocks on the gates of Molineux in the 4th tier of English football). Yo-yo clubs.
The list could go on. Dare I say, even the likes of Manchester City (3rd tier at one point not so long ago) and Chelsea. Although they obviously benefited from and took advantage of the modern game with their finances, so won't be in that situation any time soon. But in the context of time, Manchester United in 1974? Who would have thought that at the time? Tottenham in 1977. Villa about 3 times since the 80s and Newcastle their equals.
It will be interesting to see how West Ham get on without their talisman Declan Rice. Yes, they got good money, but as we've seen, how you invest it is the big question. Big loss for them in my opinion.
Brighton and Brentford are the next model we are apparently measuring ourselves against. How long will they sustain it for? One is a provincial club, losing some of their best players and the manager that guided them. The other a club surrounded by Chelsea, and the other more prominent London clubs. I like Brentford, it's a good day out and reminds me of Fulham.
I don't know if they can or will sustain it, but I respect what they have both achieved and wish them well. Especially Brighton, as my last two trips to the south coast of East Sussex gave us 6 points and an aggregate score of 7-1!!
So again, no. I measure us against Everton and the standards we want for Everton. No one else matters.
It can be done, Barry. Anything is possible. I know I repeat myself a lot, but the winter of 1983. Who saw what was about to happen coming?
We just didn't sustain it and build on it. But we are still here and can do it.
8 Posted 22/07/2023 at 07:33:52
If we don't sign a quality striker, central attacking midfielder, centre-back, and full-back, we will be in the same scrape as we have been for the last 2 seasons.
Sweat doesn't offset lack of quality, no matter how fit Dyche gets the squad.
9 Posted 22/07/2023 at 07:34:23
This team won't be pretty to watch, mostly, but – if we can be hard to beat, super fit and avoid injuries – then why not? Like you say, it happens every season for some team.
Small squad won't bother Dyche one bit but we do need a couple more as a minimum. I'm no big fan of Dyche but he gave a great interview after the Bournemouth game so I've decided to change my attitude towards him, concentrate on what he can do well for us rather than focus on his shortcomings.
There's no point in being negative all the bloody time.
10 Posted 22/07/2023 at 07:35:32
It will be like a scene from Alien.
11 Posted 22/07/2023 at 07:38:29
It's all romantic guff, we need to stick to the science. Teams like Nottingham Forest, with their league wins and European Cup glories, that didn't stop them sinking into oblivion for 20 years.
The unprecedented support and defiance of our fans will not always work; it's wrong to expect it to by default. Make no mistake, under Lampard, we were sunk without a trace.
Now Sean Dyche is here, the basics are being taught again. Hard training, hunger for the game, and crystal-clear understanding of roles and formation. All these aspects are way better than Lampard. Literally in a different league!
So for us to be that ‘breakout team' next on the list is players. We've got the best fans, we've finally got the right manager.
Already we've seen Dyche and his team turning Doucouré around, McNeil from bewildered under Frank to a dangerous, key player under Dyche. More players will improve for his regimen. The players who we sign will be better targeted and screened to be sure to fit into the hard-working environment and the players we have got will go up a level.
So, it's a big Yes from me that we can be that team. With the caveat that Dyche and Thelwell are backed by the board to the maximum, to get the three or four players in who they want without compromising too much.
If we hit the bullseye with these three or four players, then the ingredients are there for a solid top-half finish and a blazing cup run. Nothing wrong with dreaming for more than that.
The three players? Danjuma – not a bad start on a loan deal. The priority, still, is getting the quality striker in to properly challenge Calvert-Lewin. The third I think we need, is a centre-back to challenge, share with Branthwaite (who may be not quite physically ready to be expected to play 40+ games).
It was striking how Mina affected the team when he played so we need to replicate that through Branthwaite, in conjunction with the third important signing.
With our financial constraints none of this is easy, but with the other crucial aspects in place, it's not impossible to get some shrewd transfer business done.
As we speak, it's just Danjuma in at the moment, a good start, but ultimately the season ahead will be largely determined by the incomings over the next three or four weeks.
12 Posted 22/07/2023 at 07:50:47
13 Posted 22/07/2023 at 08:06:35
"I don't think Dyche is there to surprise anyone. He's not the surprising type. He's steady, he's consistent."
'Steady and consistent' this coming season will do nicely – and it will be a very welcome surprise too.
14 Posted 22/07/2023 at 08:10:53
For me, it's all about the manager influencing the mentality of the squad, and Dyche can do it with a small group of players.
The problem is ability and fitness, some of this bunch (a decreasing number thankfully) are average at best.
I'd be happy with a ‘surprising' comfortable upper-mid-table finish, and a decent cup run, with a derby win at Goodison.
Something to build on, followed by another step up to the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.
This clearly ignores the reality of the financial mess, which it seems will have a massive drag (downwards) factor. But it's pre-season optimism all the way & UTFT.
15 Posted 22/07/2023 at 08:30:44
At present, we don't have a proven back up goalkeeper, surely messers Gomes and Gbamin will move on leaving us short in midfield. I am not sure how we can afford to keep Dele, and in my view he represents a huge gamble if we include him in the squad. And of course we are desperate for someone who can score goals and will be fit and strong enough to play regularly.
Sure Dyche will have the players organised and hard to beat but we have been desperately poor now for two seasons and with our present squad I cannot see things improving.
Sadly I am no longer a romantic as far as our Club are concerned. I believe we are in for another hard season and I can see loads of games where we play with spirit and effort only to be beaten by better quality teams in the end.
If we can off load a few more who we have seen repeatedly fail in the past, and bring in 3 or 4 new players with promise, I would feel a whole lot better. Here's hoping…
16 Posted 22/07/2023 at 08:40:33
Kevin, you say you'd be happy with a comfortable upper-mid-table finish? I think we'd all be over the moon with that, bud!
I think there is a possibility (albeit small) that Barry's prediction comes true. I mean, everyone is writing us off, the media seems to dislike us quite intensely and revels in our misery. Outside expectations are low.
Dyche will have had last season to assess the squad properly and a full pre-season with the team. He will get them fitter than they have been collectively for years.
IF we can get a decent back-up to Calvert-Lewin (Dia, Dembele, Beto or someone of Bilal-Touré's quality and potential) and as Dupont rightly states above, a grafting right-winger with end product. Then who knows? I don't agree with Dupont that we need another centre-back, unless one leaves.
The squad is thin, we need more players, personally along with the striker and winger I'd go for Maitland-Niles on a free, a utility player who can fill gaps that will inevitably emerge in our paper-thin squad.
We potentially have outside expectations on our side, the work continues to need to be done on managing 'inside' expectations. Some will accuse me (and have repeatedly) of falling for the Kenwright narrative around expectations, I have not brought anything that charlatan has said for many years.
However, we might be a special "entity" as Barry puts it, we certainly have romance and history behind us. Saying that, with the move to the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock,we really need to reinvent ourselves and along with that, our expectations of a club in huge transition.
We need to reinvent the transfer model, the youth policy, investment in young talent, lose the board! This will take time, it will require us to aim for safety first, mid-table mediocrity for some time. We will be laden with further debt which we will need to consolidate.
I believe, if the fans can truly get behind the idea that this needs to happen, then with our untouchable support we could we find a way out of this shit show. Looking forward to Fulham now. COYB!
17 Posted 22/07/2023 at 08:49:29
The defence can cope with most opposition even when featuring Keane. It is our lack of goals that has been our biggest problem.
Watching us hang on to narrow one-nil leads was very bad for my blood pressure. An ability to score more than once gives the side that little bit of leeway. Knowing that, if you concede, the game is up is something that we have to overcome.
With a fit Dominic and the arrival of Danjuma, we could see a much more effective team. The performance at Brighton was indicative of what is possible.
We lack cover for Calvert-Lewin (but Danjuma gives us an option) but our biggest problem is the lack of cover in the squad. Garner was our best player, once he got over his injury but I don't want to see him wasted playing at right-back. I want another midfield player to cover the loss of lads to the Afcon.
We won't be knocking on the door for Europa but I do expect us to be around 10th to 14th.
An outside shout for the Top 6 could be Aston Villa.
18 Posted 22/07/2023 at 08:51:30
19 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:05:55
I can't predict how next season will pan out, as there are possibly only eight clubs who can seriously compete for Europe, and the rest will either be down amongst the doom gang or constantly looking over their shoulders to see how close they are to the trap-door.
As always, every goal and every point will be hard-earned, and each and every team will hope to avoid injuries to important players, whilst also hoping that they get the rub of the green with the vagaries of VAR.
The good thing is we start on equal footing with the rest of the division, how it goes from there, is anybody's guess.
20 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:07:26
Burnley seem to be going about business well and it will be interesting to see how West Ham spend the rice money.
As with others the only thing that gives me hope is Dyche. I think he's the best fitting manager we've had since Moyes and I absolutely think it's possible he and we could surprise a few people this season.
But the margins are small and much could hang on the fates, will DCL be able to stay fit? Will Branthwaite adjust to the step up? Will Patterson prove himself to Dyche?
Much will of course depend on who else we can bring in but I think Young and Danjuma for very little outlay is a great start and already gives us a good amount of cover. A DCL alternative feels crucial.
I feel more optimistic now than I have for a few seasons. Even though our squad and finances look thinner than ever we have moved beyond the disastrous and badly thought out appointments of Benitez and Lampard and I'm looking forward to seeing a hard working team who are press intelligently and get the ball forward quickly.
I think 15-16th would be decent this season (hopefully without being too close to 18th!) and 13-14th would be good. I think best case scenario is probably around 9th or 10th and anything above that would be borderline miraculous.
21 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:12:48
We've been to hell and back a few times in the past few years, but are still around to fight another day. As some may say (ie the RS), we are like a bad smell that won't go away, we've been lingering around for too long, I suppose just waiting for the inevitable, but that's not going to happen. Stability is what's required, and under Dyche we may finally have that stability, on the pitch anyway. We're not out of the woods just yet, not by a long way. We still have the leech that is Kenwright hanging around, but getting rid of DBB, Ingles and Sharpie (why did you get involved mate?) was a start.
Amazing to think that out of our last seven away games last season, we only lost one, Man Utd. Ok, we only won one, but those five all important draws helped us over the line. The one major thing lacking was a goalscorer. Get one or two in, and we turn those draws into wins, those losses into draws.
We can, and will, be better than your Brightons, Brentfords, Fulhams and all those other wannabes (Newcastle and “Big club my Arse†Spurs), but it will take time. Get the new investment in, finish BMD, then a takeover, and watch the Phoenix rise from the ashes. We haven't spent the last seventy years in the top flight without good reason. We've had good teams, and bad, there's no denying that, but we've also got the best supporters around, who deserve success more than anyone. This club can, and will, provide that success, but as I say, it will take time. So for now, stability on the pitch is what's required. No more chopping and changing the manager. Let Dyche and his crew do their job and we “Can be that Surprise teamâ€
Now then, where's the nearest Specsavers!!
22 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:21:25
23 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:33:42
Too many underestimate the value of consistently doing the simple things well. It might not be 'sexy', might not seem so exciting, but it's the bedrock of success in most walks of life.
Doing those things in the second half of last season kept us up. I thought it would.
What Dyche did in those 6 months of last season should shame his predecessors. On that basis, I'm not even thinking about relegation.
I'm not excited about us finishing in the midtable spot I think we'll finish. I'm excited about the possibility of these good habits sticking and producing a team with the passion, nous, and the odd sparkling display that makes me think my Everton is slowly returning.
24 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:34:05
Did anyone think Graeme Sharp and Denise Barrett-Baxendale would have the cheek to be taking millions out of the club?
Did anyone think they'd have the cheek to still not sign a striker with just a couple of weeks to season's start?
There's lots of surprises to go, too.
25 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:45:29
It's been quite a few seasons since someone penned an article suggesting Everton might be the surprise team for the upcoming season.
Didn't expect to see one appear quite this soon under Dyche and am even more surprised given who penned it... Nice one, Barry.
26 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:45:44
Eddie # 17 ,“The performance at Brighton was indicative of what is possibleâ€. That is a thought that keeps going through my head.
In my opinion, Calvert-Lewin was the catalyst for that remarkable improvement in the performance of the team. This leads me to believe that, if this squad think they have someone up front that can convert chances, they will raise their game accordingly.
Just need to bring that additional “someone†in – someone with a proven track record of scoring goals.
27 Posted 22/07/2023 at 09:59:12
I've said several times over the last month, I believe Everton are set up to do a job, which they will do this season. Dyche has made a massive difference to the mentality of the squad.
A good start always helps but the stoic spirit of the last season will add to the resolve to do better this season. A few new signings and Everton are in the mix, and anything can happen.
It's a funny old game.
Poxy weather but let's see who plays at Wigan today. I've heard strong rumours this week of Ross Barkley coming back… let's see.
The likes of Iwobi and Gana will be unavailable in January due to the African Cup of Nations, so that could be a tough month.
UTFTs!
28 Posted 22/07/2023 at 10:02:00
I was really impressed with Dyche last season. He improved the morale of a squad at rock bottom, kept reinventing the side as injuries bit very hard, and managed to find attacking threat out of nowhere.
He absolutely could make us the surprise package next season but there are two conditions to this:
1. We do need to recruit effectively, especially in attacking positions. Maybe two in attack and a couple more to provide a bit of depth.
2. We need some luck with injuries (a bit like Leicester when they won the Premier League playing more or less the same First XI each week).
If all that materialises, then it wouldn't surprise me at all to see us really kick on – with players like Mykolenko, Godfrey, Branthwaite and Onana showing the same sort of improvement we saw from McNeil, Patterson and Garner after a pre-season with Dyche.
29 Posted 22/07/2023 at 10:10:35
That quote from the Rathbone dictionary suggests you are ToffeeWeb's Dr Johnson. Nice article.
What next, a biography of Bill Kenwright? What would be a good title?
30 Posted 22/07/2023 at 10:20:05
The Everton entity you write about is fueled by the determination of the fans to put pressure on Everton to be accountable both on and off the pitch. The off-the-pitch management knew they were not wanted and stayed away from Goodison Park, which fans felt was necessary for the good of the club.
The fans never gave up on trying to motivate the players. The manager was largely supported. Those that did not play well were left in no doubt that it was not acceptable.
To an extent in the coming season, what you expect will happen. Dyche has had more time to galvanise the squad and put more time into the way he wants them to play.
To go to the next level, we need a upgrade in performance, but ideally the wish list would be a scoring striker, an athletic centre-back and Maginn or Maddison in midfield.
We would also need further changes at board level, since the current board would not want to be under FPP rules, having had so much self-inflicted problems with Profitabilit and Sustainability rules.
31 Posted 22/07/2023 at 10:30:20
Can Onana improve after his average first season in the Premier League?
Will Garner get more game time in centre-midfield?
Will Dyche and Co unearth goals from somewhere other than back-post corners?
A fit Calvert-Lewin makes a massive difference to us but competition is needed. I suppose we will see soon enough.
32 Posted 22/07/2023 at 11:23:19
Frank was a complete failure as we know, but I felt the rot set in with Koeman, lazy arrogant money grabbing shit. He created the mindset in the players that only Dyche is now beginning to reverse.
33 Posted 22/07/2023 at 11:30:45
The only thing that would surprise me would be if we do not get relegated this time around. We have diced with relegation two seasons on the trot without a forward and still think we can stay up for a third time without one.
Frog-faced cum dribble Kenwright has been left in charge of negotiating any transfer deals — which means we are basically fucked.
How's that for a surprise!!!!
34 Posted 22/07/2023 at 11:35:32
Saul turned into Paul? Keep it up, mate!
35 Posted 22/07/2023 at 11:57:36
36 Posted 22/07/2023 at 12:14:14
37 Posted 22/07/2023 at 12:19:32
https://youtu.be/LrD3W4ax68A
38 Posted 22/07/2023 at 12:30:40
39 Posted 22/07/2023 at 12:32:09
Despite being Mr Curmudgeon I do recognise the fact (and I like facts) that, come what may, we have a remarkable knack of fighting the odds.
The piece was an amalgam of an answer I gave to a Sunderland fan daring to ask "how do Everton keep beating the drop?". After giving the full lecture I realised the club will never leave me - even if sometimes I'd like to leave it - it just can't happen.
Yes, some is emotion and likely based on hope but it just so happens we're better at those things than anyone else. There is a pride in being an Evertonian and though I regularly set off against the flow here that essential pride remains as it does with all no matter the disparate views.
I've said it before but maybe it needs repeating - we are unequivocally the eternal flame of English football. Part of the "originals" succeeding when others fell away. The Hollywood line "we will not go quietly into the night" was written for this club.
Arrive by boat, plane or train it matters not a jot. Because of it a threshold approaching Goodison will imperceptibly make the blood pump faster, conversation a tad stilted and walking more urgent. Crossing Queens Drive under the flyover did it for me every time, it is battle mode and will never change. It is why the element of surprise can never be ruled out from this club.
We can do it - we really can
40 Posted 22/07/2023 at 12:35:39
People who are saying we will be steady but boring are in for a surprise. A decent backup to Calvert-Lewin together with Danjama will improve our scoring abilities, and I expect Dom will feature more regularly this season.
We will unleash the entity!!
41 Posted 22/07/2023 at 12:41:11
We Evertonians are forever the eternal optimists, it seems, no matter what… but, when you are at the bottom, the only way is up, as they say.
They certainly showed some spirit in a few games after Dyche came aboard and beating the likes of Arsenal, Brentford and Brighton showed that plus that battling performance against Bournemouth.
The squad still appears sound despite some departures but obviously, to be competitive, you have to win more games and you need goalscorers to do that which is where we are lacking at present.
Maybe a couple more signings will help and maybe a youngster breaking through but without a striker, Ã la Shearer, it may be a struggle again.
42 Posted 22/07/2023 at 13:08:04
Didn't or don't believe and couldn't or can't believe are similar but different, and when the board failed to turn up against Southampton, the song the fans sang at the end of the game was very, very telling imo.
"You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt" – didn't sound good, but it was the final proof that the exasperated fans had finally had enough at the lack of heart and fight, and the lack of desire, will and leadership.
I used to hear people talking on phones coming away from Goodison, all saying the same thing. "We are down, there's nothing there," whilst slowly trying to convince themselves that it wasn't the end of the world. (It nearly fucking was, because thousands of Evertonians genuinely bleed blue.)
Dyche came in and slowly began to introduce something that we had lost, something that I have always believed to be Everton Football Club's greatest commodity. He started introducing pragmatism. Looking back to that Bournemouth game right now, then I believe it was this newly found pragmatism that helped us grind out the hard-fought one-nil victory, whilst playing without a recognized centre-forward, because the only one deemed good enough was injured, and the manager didn't trust the two who started on the bench.
I believe that Dyche will prove to be a better manager than Moyes, and just hope and pray that we get the changes in the boardroom, because nothing will change otherwise, imo.
43 Posted 22/07/2023 at 13:14:59
We are starting to get coverage on the wings but we are definitely weak in attacking goalscorers at either winger or striker. Financially strapped a striker is needed, not to provide coverage for Calvert-Lewin if he is fit, but good enough to replace him even if he is fit. To improve, you have to have competition for places not just someone who can step in to cover an injury.
With Dyche, this is what he seems to aim for, not building around an individual but forcing the better players to fight for their positions. Individuals may get the points but it needs a team to get them.
44 Posted 22/07/2023 at 13:50:52
I loved to watch old Everton fans, one myself now, getting to the game late and hearing the sound of “ Z Cars†see them pick their feet up and literally dance to their seats.
Maybe those days are not far away.
45 Posted 22/07/2023 at 14:18:09
I understand fans' despair particularly those, like your good self, who regularly attend. Descent has been almost constant for decades and the case for a culmination of our demise these past 2 seasons compelling
But here's the thing - we survived.
In that respect we're as hard as nails the embodiment of the quote “Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss.†I reckon a slight improvement on the pitch ( I feel Dyche can do it) will bring things together pretty quickly.
A bumpy ride for sure. it always is, but we will deal with it because we always do and that's a fact
Dave 44
There really is nothing to compare with that hair standing on the back of your neck spine tingling moment.
46 Posted 22/07/2023 at 14:53:11
47 Posted 22/07/2023 at 17:04:15
48 Posted 22/07/2023 at 17:26:11
49 Posted 22/07/2023 at 17:55:02
I reckon the luvvie's biography would be called Kenwright: Upwards Now Toffees.
50 Posted 22/07/2023 at 21:48:53
1. Boys Pen Memories (from the Kop)
2. The Good Times
When are you next over?
51 Posted 22/07/2023 at 23:30:20
53 Posted 23/07/2023 at 06:23:00
I think with Barry Rathbone you miss the point that you are two sides of the same coin. You're both Evertonians irrationally emotionally connected to this club. But you're out there at the away games and your function is to cheer on whoever turns out, hoping against hope they can get a result.
And yourself, Danny, Brent and my mate Neil Copeland have inspired many a miracle. Barry on the other hand is like an insurance agent. A necessary evil looking at stats and preparing for the worst. Nobody wants to naively be led astray and gallop down a rabbit hole of failure in blissful ignorance.
So Barry is the proverbial canary in the coal mine with legitimate qualms. Where it gets complicated is that the likes of yourself help inspire the team to over-achieve so folks like Barry seem like alarmist “the end is nigh†sandwich-board carriers.
But if you, Danny, Brent, Neil and Co didn't keep the uber-positivity going away from home, then logically the pragmatists like Barry would be proven right.
So Barry, Hewitt, Kossoff, Edwards and Co aren't in opposition to you. They are just calling it how it looks on paper before our extraordinary away fans step in and drive the team to work miracles.
Personally, having been on ToffeeWeb for more than 20 years, I find myself torn between you, Neil and Co. And the complete opposite of Barry, Paul Hewitt and Co. In truth, both groups are in the right – just viewing it from a different perspective and serving a different purposes on matchday.
The only fans I don't have time for personally are the likes of Richard Dodd, Terry White, and I reluctantly add Karl Masters as previously he made some good posts but, as of late, he seems more interested in Kenwright than Everton.
54 Posted 23/07/2023 at 07:36:41
We all make emotional posts, whichever side of the fence we sit on, but want the same thing.
Barry's post was great. Then you get emotional fools like me. Wait until we beat Fulham.
On a serious note, it's great to get the diversity of views. If we were in a pub, it would be an open discussion. As it should be on here.
55 Posted 23/07/2023 at 10:51:06
I respect your right to take to, or against, whoever you wish.
In the interests of balance, I'll just say that I have known Terry White for 60 years and he is a dedicated Evertonian who watches every game on telly at his home in the USA, whatever time the kick-off is over there.
56 Posted 23/07/2023 at 11:03:36
In terms of optimism, I think all the away support we have is fantastic and mostly positive; everyone does their bit.
Barry R, I think you always write well and come across as well-informed, intelligent and articulate although sometimes difficult to understand. A good article thanks and follow-up posts to match!
57 Posted 23/07/2023 at 11:30:59
So I automatically thought we must have found some money and signed some decent players, but realised that we have only signed a 38-year-old who apparently was MotM against Wigan.
Still no main striker signed and, despite Calvert-Lewin going off to Germany to help his recovery, it looks likely that he won't start the season, just like last season.
So I wish I could share your optimism, Barry, but despite Sean Dyche wanting a fitter team, I can only see another relegation battle ahead. I hope I am wrong and you are correct and we will be the surprise package; let's face it, we could do with a respite from another relegation battle.
58 Posted 23/07/2023 at 11:49:30
I'm with Sam above. Incremental progress. Premier League safety with a few games left. Anywhere between 13th to 6th is pragmatic and realistic for next season.
59 Posted 23/07/2023 at 12:02:14
The season starts soon and we are leaving it very late for any signings to bed in.
60 Posted 23/07/2023 at 12:25:24
Calvert-Lewin wasn't smashing in goals left, right, and centre; but when he played, transformed the team by giving it a focal point – he was quick, strong, and tall enough to help bring others into the play.
Basically, we need a carbon copy of him. Any ideas?
61 Posted 23/07/2023 at 12:41:58
Although I did like Doddsies posts as they sparked many a debate and you can't fault a man that gets sacked by the Council for spending more time on Everton than on his job while at work.
62 Posted 23/07/2023 at 13:11:22
63 Posted 23/07/2023 at 13:17:31
A quick look at TW posts from several years back will act as a reminder of absent friends. I don't post as much myself as I used to so I'm just as bad.
Maybe if things improve on the pitch then they may rekindle their desire to participate again.
64 Posted 23/07/2023 at 13:56:31
The story I heard was he had so much ability and natural athleticism that they forgot to coach him the basics of a team game. And whilst I would think that was ludicrous, it would explain some of his brainless play.
Can you teach an old dog new tricks?
Would Everton fans take him back?
Would the city, remembering part of the reason he left?
Hopefully a more mature and if he hasn't pissed it away, financially secure Barkley, would be a different and relatively inexpensive proposition to Dele Alli.
Nothing against Deli, I just don't think we can afford him. Not sure a rejuvenated Alli and Barkley could play in the same team anyway.
65 Posted 23/07/2023 at 14:04:04
Barkley was extremely talented, with poor decision-making. That's why he could veer from brilliant to dreadful at the blink of an eye.
66 Posted 23/07/2023 at 15:20:58
That will do the trick. Then we'll need to score "enough" goals, not fill the net up.
67 Posted 23/07/2023 at 23:33:15
68 Posted 24/07/2023 at 11:51:35
All together now - we don't care …….
69 Posted 24/07/2023 at 16:52:11
It does happen, but we will need a huge slice of luck with injuries given the squad depth.
We will need a top defensive effort, and some clinical finishing to pinch games. Both are an issue given the weakness of Keane, Godfrey, Mykolenko and Holgate – with upfront just as poor.
Villa are my tip to shake the Top 4 up.
70 Posted 25/07/2023 at 10:26:23
71 Posted 25/07/2023 at 12:40:17
Coady and Mina both gone, the centre of defence worries the life out of me, even more than the lack of forwards.
72 Posted 25/07/2023 at 13:53:37
Leicester and Leeds.
73 Posted 25/07/2023 at 19:17:21
74 Posted 25/07/2023 at 19:34:38
I am optimistic that we wont be in another relegation batlle but that goalscorer would transform us.
76 Posted 25/07/2023 at 20:31:05
sorry but no. Only the club TV.
78 Posted 25/07/2023 at 20:34:55
I've gotta say that "Unleash the Entity" doesn't have quite the inspirational cachet of, say "Release the Kraken!" or "Remember the Alamo!", but hey, a slogan is a slogan.
And if Barry can become an optimist, nothing is beyond the realm of possibility -- Maupay can score 15 goals and we can soar into Europe.
79 Posted 25/07/2023 at 20:37:30
81 Posted 25/07/2023 at 20:50:47
82 Posted 25/07/2023 at 21:42:48
83 Posted 31/07/2023 at 15:36:09
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1 Posted 22/07/2023 at 00:41:21
Just a quick run-down on our depth chart (without youngsters like the 2 Lewises and Cannon who are more likely to be benefited with season-long loans):
Goalies (3):
Pickford
Virginia
Lonergan
Right Back (2):
Patterson
Coleman
Left Back (2):
Mykolenko
Young
Centre Back (5):
Tarkowski
Branthwaite
Godfrey
Keane
Holgate
Centre Midfield (6):
Onana
Gana
Garner
(Gomes)
(Gbamin)
(Dele)
Right Wing (1):
Iwobi
Left Wing (3):
McNeil
(Danjuma)
Gray
Striker (2):
Calvert-Lewin
Maupay
In short, still a bit unbalanced. Even without our precarious financial situation, we might be just one or two loan signings away from filling out the squad (another pacey right-winger and a striker who can head a ball properly, after confirming Danjuma).
Like a lot of Evertonians have pointed out, Dyche likes to keep a small and compact line-up with an occasional promotion of youngsters (like McNeil & Nathan Collins when they were 19), a la Moyes's time before Yakubu's arrival (that was the time when Billy Liar began to borrow from various loan sharks to try shopping at the Harrod's instead of Tesco).
"The minimum requirement is maximum effort."
I am cautiously optimistic that Dyche can have this team surprising a few others in the Premier League.