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Jack Harrison has become Everton's fourth signing of the summer after the Blues activated a clause in his contract at Leeds United for an initial season-long loan. 

The 26-year-old wide man has been a target for Kevin Thelwell during the close season following the Yorkshire club's relegation from the Premier League in May and Everton escalated their efforts to land him, with the transfer swiftly concluded despite a late scare from Aston Villa.

The Midlanders swooped in to also agree terms with Leeds late on Sunday afternoon and went as far as booking a medical but reportedly got cold feet after learning that the player's minor hip injury is expected to sideline him until after next month's international break and perhaps beyond into October.

Harrison travelled to Merseyside on Sunday, underwent a successful medical, and unveiled as an Everton player on Monday after The Athletic confirmed the temporary transfer late on Sunday evening.

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According to reports, the Toffees will pay all of Harrison's wages for the remainder of the season and could take advantage of a release clause in his Leeds contract to sign him permanently between now and next summer.

It has been suggested on social media that Harrison will be given the No 11 shirt worn by Demarai Gray, although the winger's departure from Goodison is still pending with nothing appearing to be imminent at this stage.

Widely regarded as one of Leeds's best players from the last few years, Harrison is a pacy and direct attacking player who can play up and down the flanks and should eventually add a welcome dynamism to Everton's attack which struggled for clinical finishing in yesterday's home defeat to Fulham.

He scored 6 goals and provided 16 assists last season but it wasn't enough to prevent Leeds from going down with Southampton and Leicester City.

Everton have also been trying to sign Harrison's Elland Road team-mate Wilfried Gnonto this summer and remain keen but have failed to agree terms with Leeds who told him this weekend that he won't be sold despite the Italian refusing to play.

Aston Villa could also get involved in that saga as well as they seek a replacement for Emiliano Buendia who is facing a long spell out with knee ligament damage.


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Shane Corcoran
1 Posted 13/08/2023 at 12:06:28
We’re in talks to get Harrison instead of Gnonto. At least he’s willing to play I suppose.
Joe Digney
2 Posted 13/08/2023 at 12:32:38
Harrison on loan with buy option.

Gnonto for £20-/25 million with Cannon spending the season on loan at Leeds is my prediction.

Bobble's podcast friend is pretty adamant we want both – not just Harrison.

May mean McNeil's injury is slightly worse than first feared unfortunately.

Steve Brown
3 Posted 13/08/2023 at 12:47:18
Avanced talks for Jack Harrison on loan, and still interested in Gnonto.

Maybe yesterday’s sobering defeat has finally woken up Moshiri and Fat Bill.

Tony Graham
4 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:01:02
It's getting beyond a joke, this striker situation.

Surely there's someone out there with the ability to kick a ball into the net occasionally... find him ASAP!!!

Andrew Ellams
5 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:04:50
Isn't he injured?
Robert Tressell
6 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:06:09
Harrison might be the Iwobi replacement – with Gnonto coming in for Gray.

Iwobi gets a lot of stick but he remains a key creator for us. I suspect Harrison will suit our style of play more, however.

Steve Brown
7 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:21:50
Apparently Harrison will be out for 3 weeks.

From the Athletic:

“Jack Harrison is undergoing a medical ahead of a proposed move from Leeds United to Everton.

The Premier League club have triggered a clause in the 26-year-old's contract that would see him join on an initial season-long loan, which Everton would like to turn permanent in due course. Personal terms are in place.”

Steve Brown
8 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:22:50
I thought Iwobi was excellent yesterday.
Dennis Stevens
9 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:25:39
All these wingers we're linked with, even though it's a centre-forward we desperately need. I mean, it's not like I expect that we'll sign one, but it'd make a nice change to be linked to one!
Paul Hewitt
10 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:30:09
He's currently injured and out for 3 weeks.
Eddie Dunn
11 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:41:03
Dyche said in his postmatch presser that Gray was "injured". He must think we are all stupid.
Tony Abrahams
12 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:46:37
We need some good wide players, and we need a couple of forwards. We need more, but these two positions have got to start taking priority over everything else, imo.

Work hard and dog it in midfield, and get more quality out wide, is how I'm hoping Dyche is preparing us to play.

Mike Morgan
13 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:46:59
Just watched the short highlights of yesterday's game.

Already heard all the negativity. But if we weren't in such a mess and needing a confidence boos,t I would say we created lots of good chances and were incredibly unlucky not to score.

However, it doesn't get points in the bag. We desperately need a proven goalscorer. Imagine how many Vardy would have had yesterday!!

Alex Gray
14 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:48:26
Harrison on loan isn't bad but, if he's the Gnonto replacement, I'd be heavily disappointed. We need pace massively.

Is there any news on someone who can replace Maupay?

Shane Corcoran
15 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:49:36
How do we trigger a loan clause and if we’re meeting the clause, why are we only doing so now?
Paul Birmingham
16 Posted 13/08/2023 at 13:52:37
For me, in Everton's financial state, takeover no and Harrison on loan is good business. Sky Sports News said this morning he's having his medical today.

But a few more players are needed, including a couple of strikers. Let's pray that Everton can bolster the ranks before the end of this transfer window.

Stefan Busby
17 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:02:07
I repeat:

Buy a fucking striker!!!

James Hughes
18 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:12:13
Stefan. this is the only striker we will get


And yes, the shit has already hit the fan.

Stefan Busby
19 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:14:47
James Hughes - Belter that :D


Andrew Keatley
20 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:25:38
If the claims in The Athletic are true, then this probably indicates that, unless we sell players, then we have no money at all to spend.

Gray has obviously been selected as the most disposable asset, but any fee we might get for him will likely be around the £15 million mark – so, unless we sell further players for significant fees, then we'll be restricted to searching for loan options and/or delayed purchases. So it ultimately feels to me like we're fishing in a shallow pool with a broken net.

Obviously I hope I am very wrong, but the Kenwright years have largely taught me that the situation is worse than we are led to believe. I don't think there's a club that spends as much time and energy pursuing unlikely or impossible transfer targets just to try and bluff their own fans.

Brian Harrison
21 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:25:48
Wow, we are now signing players who are injured! Sky Sports News reckons it will be 3 weeks before he will be fit to play.

As Stefan says, where is the striker?

Andy McGuffog
22 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:30:31
Why spend money on a medical? We know he's injured. We could spend the clinic fees on a 17-year-old Moldovan striker. For the future.
Brian Wilkinson
23 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:32:32
3 weeks out or not, I think Jack Harrison is a cracking loan option, do well to get this guy in, what's not to like, with Gray now looking likely to move, and McNeil's injury possibly longer than first thought, will do for me.

Now go out and land a striker or two, please, pretty please with Jam on, a bloody striker for god's sake.

Tony Abrahams
24 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:42:13
I can't believe Evertonians aren't putting more pressure on Moshiri to sell the club. Kenwright only remains because he his a devious bastard and must have something on Moshiri IMO, and although it's not really our style, it's our fucking football club, and it's continuing to be destroyed by these fly bastards.
Fran Mitchell
25 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:42:45
He's a good player, hard working, decent output, and will hit the ground running (once over his injury).

He will provide real competition with McNeil, and we don't have any news as regards to how long he is out for, imagine he could also play on the right.

Also a loan with option, so doesn't cost anything leaving our budget (whatever that is) for a striker untouched.

Hopefully a move for Beto or Adams or someone will happen quickly in the coming days.

Mark Andrews
26 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:43:50
Everton, desperate for a striker, go after midfielders.
We're run by incompetent buffoons.
Michael Lynch
27 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:45:43
The Leeds fans say he's been inconsistent, infuriating and goes missing.

Typical Everton this, we go for Gnonto who is a real emerging talent, and we end up with an average, injured 26-year-old.

Ian Bennett
28 Posted 13/08/2023 at 14:56:29
Tidy enough player, but a cracking option, I think not.

He has pace, but is again a player that blows hot and cold. And is already injured missing most of the pre season. Is he an upgrade on Gray? Yes, but not much.

His best position is wide left, and we already have Mcneil, Danjuma and Iwobi in that position. Once again rather than finding a right winger, that plays that position - we are looking for a player to play on an unfavoured side. Why? Goodison is narrow enough as it is, and we want someone to cut in and make it narrower.

A loan with an obligation to buy at £22m again looks like dead money. He's 27 in November, so come next summer when he's signed he will be approaching 28. So another signing with zero resale value, and no doubt we will be sticking on £75k+ to make him come. And we wonder why we face P&S issues all the time...

We learn nothing.

I had hoped we would start buying hungry players in the 19 to 23 years bracket. Get 2-3 years from them, and move them on. But instead bring them in, and face the same issues when they hit 30 of a squad worth nothing.

I've no faith in Thelwell at all. Spent the Richarlison money on Maupay and Onona, when we had a goal-scoring crises. Had 2 years sort out the striker crises, and done nothing about it. Keeps talking about rebalancing a squad, but seems obsessed with left wingers - no doubt we still want Gnonto.

The man's a fraud.

Dale Self
29 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:00:15
We have a bit of a philosophical problem at this stage. Since this is a new thread I’ll fashion it to this situation. Broke as fuck, we need to make every transfer move us toward a productive style of football that modern value players will buy into.

The transfer market doesn’t offer combo deals that depend on whether your other deal goes through. Any move made reduces funds for our crowded choice of a Premier League quality striker. This ultimately explains Thelwell’s hesitance to get someone immediately in when it would necessarily limit the top end negotiations still ongoing.

So without going too deep here it is a direct tradeoff between short term security and getting Everton on the viable long term path that steers us clear of dredgeball and all its implications. Screaming for a short term solution is not the solution. Sometimes you dial ‘M’ for Market and instead you get Motherfucker. It will work out. It will be disappointing at times. Details matter.

Bottom line: Harrison fits. Get him on the cheap and keep looking

Brent Stephens
30 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:01:34
Michael #27,

"Typical Everton this, we go for Gnonto who is a real emerging talent, and we end up with an average, injured 26-year-old."

So we've signed him, have we? I must have missed that.

Soren Moyer
31 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:02:19
Alan Myers posted that medical is scheduled for today!

The Telegraph now reporting that Everton have signed Jack Harrison on loan from Leeds United.

Don't be surprised if it is "Rex Harrison" though.

Alan McGuffog
32 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:04:12
Three weeks out injured. Then, as it's Everton, three to five weeks getting match fit. Then a setback. Meanwhile, come October, the points we have will likely enough be chalked off by our punishment.

What's that line from a poem... "Cap'n, are't thou sleeping down below?"

Barry Rathbone
33 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:07:34
Tony 24,

Fan indulgence of Moshiri is due to the slack-jawed bleat of "He's getting us a new stadium" as though financing a new build does anything but knock you back – look at Spurs.

Kenwright is kept on to deflect fan ire.

Kevin Molloy
34 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:15:34
Another good Evertonian, Soren.
Rob Halligan
35 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:15:43
Brent # 30…

It could be worse, we could be like Man Utd who have just splashed out £72M on a crocked Danish forward, who is out injured with a back injury, and god knows when he's likely to return?

This is a loan deal for a player probably out for 3 weeks, yet people go ape-shit about it.

Mark Taylor
36 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:17:32
Maybe he can provide some company for Dom?
Paul Tran
37 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:17:36
I'm sure this isn't 'sudden'. Getting a player like him on loan for starters, in line with his current contract, is an obvious move for us.

Regarding Gnonto, it's all about how much he really wants to join us, if he does.

At some point in the next week or so, the dominoes will start falling and players will be coming and going.

Tony Heron
38 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:22:44
How do you pass a medical if you're injured?
Soren Moyer
39 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:24:28
Anyone with more than 1 goal a season (Maupay) is an upgrade!
Pat Kelly
40 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:30:51
He’s on loan till he’s fit.
Tony Abrahams
41 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:32:32
It doesn't surprise me that you think the total opposite to me, Barry, but new stadium or not, we definitely need new owners now who have a serious plan that both looks past and overlaps the stadium build.

With talk of Bill Kenwright not being well again, then hopefully that's who you were talking about, Pat.

Neil Thomas
42 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:32:58
He’s only out for 3 weeks, not the whole season. If we wait until he’s fully fit then we miss out altogether. That’s not rocket science. And he’s a decent hardworking player
Pat Kelly
43 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:37:54
There’ll be more signings. We still have a few positions to fill with injured players.
Pat Kelly
44 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:49:21
“Speaking on Saturday (22 July) and quoted by Leeds Live, new boss Daniel Farke confirmed Harrison, 26, is likely to be out with injury until after the 2023-24 campaign's first international break in September.“
John McFarlane Snr
45 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:50:30
Hi Tony [41],

If you want to put the current problems of today on one side, you may enjoy reading of the game as it was when your Dad and I were (2 years for me, and 3 years for your dad) short of being teenagers. It is on the, 'Made In England' – An Italian Tribute thread.

Brian Wilkinson
46 Posted 13/08/2023 at 15:51:44
Deal now gone through, that was quick for a change.
Chris James
47 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:08:23
Hang on, isn't this a really decent signing?

6 goals and 10 assists last time out in a relegated side, 10 goals and 2 assists the year before and 8 goals, 8 assists in 20/21. That's exactly the sort of goal contribution we need surely?

Notably a better record than Gnonto too... but no, apparently he's 'average' according to ToffeeWeb armchair experts, rather than a loan we should be spending all our cash on an 'emerging talent' winger instead. Also, "Why aren't we buying strikers? It's all Kenwright's fault, etc"

See also, after actually signing a young striker, "Why are we spending so much money on an unproven striker... we should've got xyz... this club's a joke, etc, etc..."

Seriously, some of you guys really do need to give your head a wobble, the commentary on here is just ludicrous.

According to some, we've already been relegated and were rubbish against Fulham (despite 19 shots and 9 on target vs 9/2 and having a perfectly good goal ruled out).

If Everton is all Nil Satis Nisi Optimum, ToffeeWeb's motto for posters should be more like 'Ad Infinitum Ad Nauseam'.

Andrew Ellams
48 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:15:32
Chris, he is if he stays fit.
Tony Everan
50 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:15:34
Just about to make the same point at Chris. This is an excellent signing. He has played an average of about 36 games each season the last three seasons , so get him clear of this injury and he’s quite robust.

Stats last four seasons 27 goals 24 assists (incl 6 and 8 in the championship)

For comparison our creative assist machine Iwobi in last four seasons 6 goals and 11 assists.

And we appreciate Iwobi’s influence too! Because of the dearth of creativity elsewhere.

So a big welcome to Jack Harrison and well done to Kevin Thelwell, a no brainer of a signing.

Now onto the striker business.

Brian Wilkinson
51 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:17:10
Harrison is a versatile left-footed attacker, who plays as a winger, mainly on the left flank, he is also comfortable playing on the right side. He can also play as an attacking midfield playmaker, He is known for his pace, his dribbling ability and workrate.

Former New York City teammate David Villa described Harrison, "I've spent a lot of years in this game, and he has something important that only a few players have, when he has the ball at his feet, you get the sensation something special is going to happen."

His former New York City manager, Patrick Vieira said of Harrison, "He's a good player, technically he's really good, he understands the game, he can come and link with our No. 9, he can run behind the back four, his football brain is fantastic."

That's the info on Jack Harrison.

Steve Shave
52 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:21:50
This is an excellent piece of business if true. It doesn't get the pulse racing like Gnonto would but he is a versatile, hard worker who has been consistently one of Leeds's best players this past few seasons.

He has played plenty on the right and is effective there too, his grafting game will suit Dyche. I'd love us to sell a few and get Gnonto as well. That should wait though because the money a loan saves us now means we can hopefully target a striker ASAP!!

Don't suppose Udinese would be able to afford Maupay's wages; otherwise, it would have been great to send him the other way as part of the Beto offer.

John Catto
53 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:22:49
I have a suspicion that Leeds have said "You can have Gnonto but you need to take Harrison's wages off our wage bill as well."
Billy Shears
54 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:23:28
Decent player that at least creates chances but we need the kid Gnonto too, plus a least a couple of strikers as well because Calvert-Lewin simply can't be relied on and Maupay is struggling badly.
Pat Kelly
55 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:24:52
The medical has confirmed his other hip is okay.
Christy Ring
56 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:25:23
Harrison is a skilful player, a good addition, but a No 9 is a must before our next game.
Andy Walker
57 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:30:57
Barry 33. 100% agree.

Moshiri is the problem, we'd have been better off spending a fifth or what he's spent, we then wouldn't have the FFP issue now creating enormous problems for us.

Soren Moyer
58 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:31:58
Always liked him when played for Leeds. Scores goals from outside the box and plenty of assists. What's there not to like?

Welcome to Everton.

Mark McDonald
59 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:39:07
Not so long ago, it was Number 10s we were signing… now it appears to be wingers!

I suspect someone (Gray and/or Iwobi) is off. It's obvious to a blind man what position we desperately need! An untested 19-year-old from Sporting is one for the future.

We need an experienced striker now!

Chris James
60 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:41:51
@Andy Walker… that's a little be over simplistic. We were financially knackered before Moshiri came in and to be honest it's his or Usmanov's cash he's mainly squandered – not the club's, he didn't saddle us with debt Glazer style.

Despite financial fair play issues and some terrible signings, we do have people behind the club with pockets… plus a new stadium en route.

Could there have been a better buyer? Maybe? Could it have been worse… I think so.

Gavin Johnson
61 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:46:31
Harrison is decent and upgrade on Gray (albeit marginally better) but lets hope he can play on the right side, because we only seem to go after ones who play on the left. The same goes for Gnonto.

I see Leeds now want Tom Cannon. Maybe he'll be the key to getting the deal over the line for Gnonto.

If we're bringing in Harrison and maybe Gnonto, perhaps Iwobi will sign a new deal as he can be moved into his favoured centre midfield to fight it out with Doucoure for the attacking mid spot?!

Dave Abrahams
62 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:52:39
Looks like players are coming in, plural, so it's obvious players are going out, maybe one of them for big money. If it's Iwobi, that would be good business considering he will be a free agent next summer, a good fee and wages off the books.

It could also be Onana, how come none of the big clubs are coming in for this lad with his enormous potential? Can't they spot how sensational he is going to be? They must be blind, although he is very frugal showing this potential – just a few minutes every game. Maybe the scouts won't notice he goes missing for long periods of the game.

Sean Roe
63 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:55:04
Thank god we're not stockpiling strikers.
Si Pulford
64 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:55:40
The negativity here is incredible. More goal contributions than all our strikers combined last season. Not hard I'll agree. Also more goal contributions than any Everton player at all last season – and it's costing zero?!!!

Am I missing something here?

Yea, we need a striker… but bringing goals and assists into the team for nothing isn't necessarily at the expense of a striker – how about it could be as well as a striker?

Absolute no-brainer of a deal. I'm just surprised a better team didn't get to him first.

Dave Abrahams
65 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:58:36
Rumours that Aston Villa are highjacking the Harrison deal!
Sam Bowen
66 Posted 13/08/2023 at 16:59:23
A good fit. I think he's suited to being an Everton player. Smart signing.

I would still like to see Gnonto arrive. We need a player who can do the unpredictable. Another striker and a centre-back now please.

Stu Darlington
67 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:00:36
How many left sided players do we need?

Thelwell talks about getting balance in the squad so how about a right winger or right-sided midfielder who can work with Patterson? Also, where does being young with potential and a sell-on value come in?

I'm not criticising Harrison as a footballer but I just wonder if he is the best fit for our squad as it stands. He also has a tendency to go missing from time to time.

The jury's out for me at the moment and, given our track record, a lot depends on finances and terms of any deal.

Paul Hewitt
68 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:04:11
Villa can have him. We need strikers.
Shane Corcoran
69 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:05:34
Villa with an ambush.
Paul Birmingham
70 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:06:14
Villa now on the sniff. I hope he opts for Everton.

Gavin Johnson
71 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:09:14
What's your source for Villa??
Kieran Kinsella
72 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:11:43
Harrison is good. But if, as has been reported, we've been following him all summer, why did we wait until now?

Was it because we could save money on wages for a month?

Philip Abbott
73 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:19:18
He's now signing for Villa, get them signed before others find out!
Tony Everan
74 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:19:37
Is this a new strategy from hyena-like clubs. Wait till a player is having a medical at Finch Farm, then phone their agent and offer an extra half mill signing-on fee?

Talk about dog eat dog, it's open warfare out there, all bets are off and anything goes.

Ray Roche
75 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:20:04
Nothing on the Villa ‘Newsnow' website…
Paul Tran
76 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:20:48
With his injury, Kieran, I'd say the transfer genius wanted to wait until 31 August to save on the wages!

I await the club's welcome video email landing in my inbox...

Paul Birmingham
77 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:21:25
Hopefully it happens; in my view, he will have a better chance of more game time at Everton.
Marc Hints
78 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:22:06
Just been confirmed: Villa late bid, he has left Everton after medical to decide on Villa or Everton.
Gavin Johnson
79 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:22:15
It's no good coming on here saying he's going Villa, if you don't say the source. I'm guessing it's a Twitter rumour, in which case, take no notice until an established journo picks it up.
Kieran Kinsella
80 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:22:36

It's not new. Spurs have been doing it to us for years.

Remember Kyle — not Walker — the other one who Spurs nicked last minute? Or that waster from Newcastle who blocked Koeman's calls?

Joe Digney
81 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:23:18
Danjuma 2.0 by looks of it.

Fabrizio and Bobble both confirming Villa's last-minute interest.

Need better locks on the Finch Farm doors, methinks.

Andrew Ellams
82 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:23:28
Seems Villa have also agreed terms so it's down to him.
Marc Hints
83 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:23:48
Gavin #79,

Fabrizio and Alan Myers just confirmed my last post.
Jeff Armstrong
84 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:24:12
Romano confirms on twitter that Villa are in for Harrison.
James Newcombe
85 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:24:34
6 goals and 16 assists would have had him as a contender for player of the season! I think I'd rather sign him than Gnonto – the way he's carrying on is very off-putting.

If we're in a relegation battle again this season (ha!), then Gnonto sounds like the last person you'd want in the trenches at your side.

Kieran Kinsella
86 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:25:07
Paul Tran,

And probably then wait until 30 seconds before midnight to see if we could get his first day pro bono.

Kieran Kinsella
87 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:28:21
Here's an idea: why don't we start offering 10-year deals on $200k a week to unemployed players like Davies and Barkley?

Then we will flush out all the hyenas, they'll blow all their cash on them and leave us with a free hand to buy good players?

George Cumiskey
88 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:29:00
I can't see him getting a lot of game time at Villa.
Paul Hewitt
89 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:29:42
Take your Everton hat off...

If the choice was Villa or Everton. You would go to Villa at the moment.

Kunal Desai
90 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:30:04
It's a no-brainer. If Villa are interested, you would choose them any day of the week.
Joe Digney
91 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:30:19
Fabrizio just confirmed it, he's going to Villa.

Fuck me, what a shit show.

Paul Tran
92 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:30:50
Or is Bill driving him to Birmingham, Kieran?
Pat Kelly
94 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:31:12
We need players now, not possibly, maybe October.
Fran Mitchell
95 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:32:14
For Villa, Buendia got injured midweek so, 5 days later, they have targeted Harrison as a replacement.

We've been targeting him all summer but wait so long and now we'll likely lose out.

Will we ever learn?

Marc Hints
96 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:33:42
Just been confirmed he has decided to go to Villa.
Andrew Bentley
97 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:33:49
Wonder what the odds will be on him scoring against us now next week?
Marc Hints
98 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:34:28
He can't, Andrew – he is injured and out for about 3 weeks.
Ian Edwards
99 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:34:58
Well done, Bobblehead. Releasing the transfer for likes. Usually it's team news. The man is an anonymous treacherous shite.
Andrew Bentley
100 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:35:15
Ah yes, true Marc.

Still more likely than Maupay. 😳

Kieran Kinsella
101 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:35:17

Another Nigel Martyn fiasco…

Brian Williams
102 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:35:31
I think this has been a very cunning plan between Everton and Leeds. Leeds wanted rid of Harrison and knew Villa were interested.

They've asked Everton to help 'em out by flushing Villa out and in return we get to sign Gnonto.

You heard it here first.

Pete Hughes
103 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:36:13
Fuck off, Everton – you dawdling bastards!
Paul Tran
104 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:36:14
They're never here until we see the welcome video...
Kieran Kinsella
105 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:37:13

Do you think Bobblehead may have been involved in the “attack” on Anthony Gordon? He's Kenwright's secret fixer.

Si Pulford
106 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:37:43
Fran, it doesn't work like that. We can't demand he signs. We've been working on it all summer and he's been waiting for better offers. He got one today.

That's the reality. Not that we're slow or doing things wrong. That players are waiting for better offers. And it looks like they're right to because he'll be playing in Europe instead of a relegation battle.

Brian Williams
107 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:38:26
Cue the ridiculous and OTT slagging of our club.
Some of you are like spoilt kids honestly. 🤣
Marc Hints
108 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:38:36

That would be so good. Alan Myers just confirmed still serious interest in Gnonto.

We must be so skint to be haggling this long and penny-pinching.

Kieran Kinsella
109 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:39:25

Didn't we see Muller and Manny Fernandes in the building and holding Everton shirts before small issues like taxation arose?

Paul Smith
110 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:41:28
Villa miles ahead of us these days.
Kieran Kinsella
111 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:41:54

Is it “serious” though? Or is it like Barry Ferguson, Dirk Kuyt, Michael Owen?

Just keep throwing that story out there until the transfer window shuts then “aw shucks” we will get someone in January, the money is ring-fenced in the Arteta piggy bank.

Dan Nulty
112 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:42:26
Honestly, we should have done this weeks ago if it was a clause in his contract.
Sean Roe
113 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:43:56
Oh well, he can do a Danjuma next season.

When he hardly figures for Villa, realises he's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is by the lack of interest, he can don the blue jersey and let us all know that he always wanted to come to Everton.

Kieran Kinsella
114 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:44:05
Brian Williams,

Spoilt kids? More like famished Oliver Twist to Harry Seacombe “Please, Sir, can we have some more players!”

Paul Tran
115 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:44:10
Kieran, my favourite was the Funes Mori story that no-one knew there was a big agent fee involved, which made him marginally cheaper than that young Celtic centre-half Van Dijk!
Chris Taggart
116 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:44:15
If you Google Beto, it says that he plays for Everton.

Strange one.

Billy Bradshaw
117 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:45:04
Need to change the headline, Villa set to bring Harrison back to the Premier League.
Pat Kelly
118 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:46:14
At least we only paid for his medical.
Ian Edwards
119 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:47:12
Si 106.

The loan agreement in the case of relegation kicked in 2 months ago. How long does it take to telephone and say we are triggering the agreement?

Kieran Kinsella
120 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:47:24

We just have to be thankful for Souness making us seem less inept thanks to George Weah's “cousin”. Even Kenwright can't top that one…

Fran Mitchell
121 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:48:13
How so, Si?

We only triggered the release clause today, how has it been a case of Harrison waiting for a better offer? We made our offer today, not 6 weeks ago

George Cumiskey
122 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:48:42
Jamie Carragher was spot on when he said we were the worst-run club in the Premier League.
Pat Kelly
123 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:48:46
Should we start a rumour that we're thinking of extending Maupay's contract?
Marc Hints
124 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:48:52
Kieran #111,

Exactly who knows. The Bobble on Twitter just confirmed he is on his way to Villa and we have lost a long-term target! So the question I just asked Bobble is, if he's a long-term target, why have we only just decided to do something now?

It's either what you said, or we just wait and hope for the best as in the price comes down, or are Kenwright and Thelwell just too slow in getting things done? None of us knows, but it looks embarrassing.

But at the same time, Everton are not exactly a club in a position to pull players too, fans and board and owner are disconnected and we've just had two relegation battles.

Sean Roe
125 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:51:02
Chris @116,

It's just changed to ''plays for Tamworth FC''. They offered him third-choice striker and free parking on matchday.

Brian Williams
126 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:51:17
Pat #123.

Please Pat, don't even think about it.......just in case.


Danny Baily
127 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:51:51
You never know, might still bring him in.
Raymond Fox
128 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:54:02
The situation is our reputation as a club is rock bottom. Struggling big time against relegation recently, fans protesting regularly, changing managers every season.

We love the club but I don't think we look a great destination for a playing career.

Then we have idiots abusing Maupay, there's no doubt we have our fair share of brain-dead yobs.

Brian Williams
129 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:56:01

I don't believe that Instagram message was by an Everton supporter. Don't believe it was by anyone English let alone from Merseyside.

Pat Kelly
130 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:56:54
Tomorrow's headline:

Everton hi-Jacked

Brian Williams
131 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:59:06
And now it seems Harrison could be out injured for 6 weeks.

Do we still want him?

Ian Edwards
132 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:59:17
Looks like it's back on according to Ornstein. Villa lukewarm.
Kieran Kinsella
133 Posted 13/08/2023 at 17:59:30
Fabrizio Romano now saying Villa have cold feet now as they didn’t know he’s injured for 5/6 weeks….
Bill Gienapp
134 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:00:21
Just woke up and started scrolling through Twitter and discovered over the course of 3 minutes --

1. We're getting Jack Harrison on loan (hey!)
2. Aston Villa are looking to hi-jack the deal (uh-oh)
3. Aston Villa have hi-jacked the deal (oh)

Everton that, as they say.

Tony Abrahams
135 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:01:15
I'm hearing that Moshiri has been trying to kick back into the American investment group that are after a full buyout of the club.

I'm not holding my breath because I've heard similar stories quite a few times, but Everton Football Club definitely need new owners because we have become a laughing stock under our present owner.

Kieran Kinsella
136 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:01:28
It's a bit embarrassing… like going on a date and your companion says “Sorry, that guy over there is better looking!”

Then, 5 minutes later, returns: “He lost his wallet. I guess you'll do.”

Pat Kelly
137 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:01:49
Pull the plug on this one. Another Danjuma.
Brian Williams
138 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:02:02
And if we do get him, the same people slagging us off for missing out on him will slag us off for loaning a crock. 🤣
Fran Mitchell
139 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:02:22
Bill 4:

Villa just realised he is injured and are now reconsidering…

What a saga!


Kieran Kinsella
140 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:02:40

Does this mean the protracted MSP deal is dead? Has their exclusivity period gone the way of Kenton's group?

Bill Gienapp
141 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:03:28
Fran - I should go back to bed and get up again in a few hours!
Kim Vivian
142 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:03:49

"Medical completed. Now moving on to signing contracts. Villa considered midfielder but EFC close to completing the deal."

Nothing on the injury situation though – where's that coming from?

Marc Hints
143 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:04:22
Alan Myers now saying wait and see,

David Ornstein just tweeted the following:

Everton reach agreement with Jack Harrison to sign 26-year-old on loan, with desire to make permanent at end. Medical completed – now moving on to signing contracts. Aston Villa considered midfielder but #EFC close to completing deal.

Tony Everan
144 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:04:23
Brian, It was my initial reactIon too, the idiot who posted that is sitting in his bedsit somewhere in nowhereland.

It's disgusting on two levels: the moronic post, and the asymmetric coverage such a post gets causing damage to the fans' reputation.

Pat Kelly
145 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:05:20
Apparently he's agreed to come to us if we offer him the higher wages Villa just offered.
Marc Hints
147 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:06:27
Just in from Twitter:

My understanding of the situation has not changed, as it stands Harrison will be joining Everton.

Dale Self
148 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:07:11
Brian 138, it's like the club runs through a Catch-22 loop? Another Youssarian moment

Yes, we will still take him.

Fran Mitchell
149 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:08:21
This has to go amongst the most bizarre transfer sagas in recent memory. Every 5 minutes, the situation changes!
Pat Kelly
150 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:09:25
Villa have signed him. And Everton have taken him on loan till October.
Brian Williams
151 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:09:55

You can see from the wording, grammar and structure of the post that English is not the poster's first language. But hey everyone jumps on and condemns Everton supporters.

That's the problem with social media – anyone can post any old shite and lots of people take it as Gospel. Just look on this thread! 😳

Rob Halligan
152 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:10:04
Apparently we've hijacked the hijacker's, and it's now a done deal… he's going to Leicester!
Brian Williams
153 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:10:32
Marc Hints
155 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:11:19
Apparently from Fabrizio Romano: Villa didn't realise he is injured and out for 5/6 weeks, hence the saga changed.
Dale Self
156 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:14:49
Trying to keep up like George Jetson on the Astro walker and getting rolled. So we rehighjacked the originally hijacked deal and loaned him out to Forest Green while he rehabs?

Who knew the transfer market would evolve into an adult version of Sporting Mystery Date. Ugh, we got the bum.

Ray Smith
157 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:16:07
Dare I suggest we stop negotiating with Leeds until they stop their pedantic attitude towards us in particular? Their bloody-minded attitude reminds me of the Ridsdale years.

Hope they don't return to those days, but then again you reap what you sow! So do Everton, tongue in cheek! Ridsdale v Kenwright? No comparison!

Rob Halligan
158 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:18:16
Police are now reporting a maniac on the M6, who is driving at over 100 mph, who keeps on coming off at various junctions, heading south then north.

Quite frankly, I don't think Jack Harrison knows if he's coming or going?

Marc Hints
159 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:19:29
🤣🤣🤣 Rob
Christy Ring
160 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:20:11
If Villa changed their mind because of his injury, we should tell him to take a hike, and walk away.
Kevin Molloy
161 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:20:47
Villa should know better than to go toe to toe with a club of our pedigree. They had the most optimistic fans of all in some poll last week, I wonder where they are now...
Marc Hints
162 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:21:07
Fabrizio Romano now saying he is signing for Everton, Villa dropped out at the last minute because he is injured.
Will Mabon
163 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:21:30
Rob, he's trying to find the connection to M62 West. Maybe.
John Catto
164 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:21:44
Villa just offered us El Ghazi again! 🤣
Brian Williams
165 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:21:59
He's comin' home, he's comin' home, he's comin',
Harrison's limping home.
Fran Mitchell
166 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:22:35
If only we could be so picky, Christy.
Gavin Johnson
167 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:23:27
The Athletic now saying he's still joining Everton despite Emery and Villa trying to sabotage the deal.
Paul Smith
168 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:23:43
Fuck him, he wanted Villa.
Pat Kelly
169 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:24:00
He failed Villa’s medical. Apparently, for some reason they insist on both hips working.
Brian Williams
170 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:24:17
Christy. So we should walk away because Villa changed their mind?

Just have a little think about that one for a minute.

Phillip White
171 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:24:54
Why isn't Everton going after Kyogo? Am I missing something here?
Dan Nulty
172 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:25:17
I like him as a player but not sure he is what we need unless we are playing him on the right?
Brian Williams
173 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:25:36
Phillip. He's going to Villa.
John Otway
174 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:27:52
Brian 173. Oh no he isn't!
Brian Williams
175 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:28:21
Paul Ferry
176 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:29:32
It would be nice if this thread was about a striker.
Kim Vivian
177 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:30:18
Harrison has 40 goal contributions in the past 3 seasons apparently - that's over double any of our midfielders.
Kim Vivian
178 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:30:49
Paul - indeed.
Brian Williams
179 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:30:50
Paul, the Beto thread will start on Tuesday. 😳
Sean Roe
180 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:30:52
If he has no choice but to sign for us, I just hope we skip the embarrassing, cringeworthy ''It's great to be here'' interview, we've already had it once this season with Danjuma.

Both would rather be anywhere but here.

Kieran Kinsella
181 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:31:02
The Bobble deleted his Tweet where he boasted he was the first to confirm the Villa deal, even though he wasn't. Now he's deleted his subsequent Tweet that Everton have done all they can to secure the deal.

I guess if you post every possibility, then delete all the ones that didn't pan out, you can look like a transfer guru.

Jack Convery
182 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:31:19
Maybe his wife told "him you're signing for Everton, I'm not moving down there! My family are all in the North and Merseyside is just over the Pennines. Comprende?"

It wouldn't be the first time!

I suspect Dyche wants him for the right and he can be cover for McNeil. I wonder if Iwobi is on his way?

Ian Edwards
183 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:31:58
El Bollocko now trying to save face on a Twitter space.
Gavin Johnson
184 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:32:22
If he went as far as having the medical at Villa, I think that suggests it was them pulling out of the deal rather than him choosing us.

It doesn't bode well on how soon he's going to return to full match fitness.

Pat Kelly
185 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:32:27
It's gone into injury time with Harrison…
Phillip White
186 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:32:45
Everton need to think outside the box here, his goal-scoring record is impressive so is his movement off the ball. I'd take him in a heartbeat and play him off Dom.
Brian Williams
187 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:32:46
Sean #180.

No choice?

He can easily choose to stay at Leeds.

Paul Tran
188 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:35:24
Another reminder that these gurus might not always get all the correct info from their sources.
Phil Greenough
189 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:36:22
Has anyone heard it from Harrison, directly, that he chose Villa over Everton?

Myers and Romano say something on Twitter, and everyone takes it as gospel. Are these people speaking directly to Villa for someone to quote that they knocked him back because he was injured?

You would think that the Villa management would know the status of any player before they spoke to the football gods, that are Myers and Romano.

Alex Gray
190 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:38:30
So let me get this straight: he has his medical with us, jumps ship when Villa come calling. Then, when Villa find out he's injured and reject him, he comes back to us?

Sounds like he's up for the cause… not for me.

Sean Roe
191 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:38:56
Not if he wants top-flight football, Brian.
Pat Kelly
192 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:39:11
I won’t believe we’ve signed him till I see Thelwell signing his cast.
Dave Cook
193 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:41:42
I'm confused about all this injury concern; even if he is out for a month or two right now, his injury record doesn't look bad from what I can see.
Gavin Johnson
194 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:42:54
Alex #190,

I'm surmising on what info's out there, but it sounds like he had his medical with us, got the call of Emery, went over to Villa, took a 2nd medical and Villa didn't like what they saw.

Villa would have known he was injured but maybe it looks like he could be out longer than the 3 weeks that was reported.

Who knows?? Sure it will all come out in the wash in the next few days.

Rob Halligan
195 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:43:39
Don’t know about Unai Emery, sounds more like a Dick Emery sketch.
Pat Kelly
196 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:44:13
You are awful, Rob.
Christy Ring
197 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:44:27
Brian #170,

My point being, if he had decided to go to Villa for a medical, and they changed their mind because of his injury, we were his only option?

I've since read different articles that he opted for us because they came in too late?

Rob Halligan
198 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:45:52
Will # 163…

He overshot the M62 turn off for Liverpool, and is now heading down the M58. Imminent signing at Wigan!

Paul Hewitt
199 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:46:42
Can we get a striker now please.
Ian Jones
200 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:47:04
Not sure where he's going to be playing. Depends on which news outlet you read or listen to.

Not sure if Villa or Everton have hijacked the deal but surely the club that shouts 'Hi Jack' the loudest will get him.

Craig Walker
201 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:47:28
Whenever I've seen him play, he looks decent. Better than Iwobi.

Just sign a bloody striker though.

Paul Tran
202 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:48:34
He'd be daft not to talk to Villa if they were interested. I always talk to both sides when I get multiple offers.

If he chooses us, great.

Gavin Johnson
203 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:49:10
Personally, I'd have preferred a loan for Sulemana over Harrison. Seems like he's more used to playing out on the right side, even though he also plays on the left predominantly.

Guessing Thelwell is the man behind this one – having been the DoF at New York City when Harrison was there.

Jim Jennings
204 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:53:46
Apparently he changed his mind and decided he doesn't fancy Villa and wants to sign for Everton after all, upon receiving a phone call from David Unsworth.
Iakovos Iasonidis
205 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:53:52
Pat Kelly @150,

Thank you, man, I am laughing 10 minutes straight!

Will Mabon
206 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:54:18
It actually is comedy, that's the tragedy, Rob.

Hope he's driving an automatic with that injury.

Paul Tran
207 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:54:20
Are these people seriously trying to have us believe Villa didn't know about his injury, or got worried about it before a medical?

Some serious backtracking going on here…

Brian Wilkinson
208 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:54:25
From what I've heard, he had his medical at the Lobster Pot, then we gave him directions to Villa Park.

Looks like he may be heading off to Villa instead, unless another twist emerges.

Hopefully he will have second thoughts and choose Everton, think he will be a decent signing myself.

Dave Williams
209 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:55:43
We have to face the fact that we are not that attractive to some players given our two successive relegation battles, disharmony between fans and board, and possible financial issues.

You can't blame Harrison for weighing up his options; as Paul Tran says above, it's what we would all do if we had more than one offer on the table.

Rob Halligan
210 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:57:51
Will, let's just hope he doesn't end up in Skelmersdale; otherwise, he'll never be seen again!
Robert Tressell
211 Posted 13/08/2023 at 18:58:41
A bit surprised we didn't go for Adama Traore on a free.

Good bit of business there for Fulham (assuming the wages aren't astronomical). His goals and assists stats are very unremarkable but he's got dangerous pace on the right flank and is still only 27.

As for Harrison, he's hitting better stats (5 goals and 7 assists last season) and would be a real asset for us if he could keep that going. Just to put that into context though, Iwobi got 2 goals and 8 assists last season.

However, I suspect Harrison is a better fit for a counter-attacking Dyche side than a high press / quick tempo passing side (which suits Iwobi more).

Brian Williams
212 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:01:55
Aaaaaand everyone believes everything they read on social media.

If it wasn't so pathetic, it would be hilarious!

Will Mabon
213 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:02:25
True – many people made their home in Skem without intending it. There's something I like about the place though but you'd never guess it...
Raymond Fox
214 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:02:55
I would tell him "No, thank you very much, we have our own crocks already."

Thanks, Bill @141 & Rob @158, we are in need of a laugh.
Ian Bennett
215 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:03:11
I thought the same, Gavin. Sulemana is quicker and younger, but will presumably disappear to the Afcon in January and February.

With Gana, Iwobi, and Doucouré, losing 4 midfielders could be an issue assuming they've qualified and are selected. Although if Harrison is still injured, he will probably miss more games...

Summerville at 21, right sided midfielder looks a good long-term bet.

Will Mabon
216 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:04:24
Brian, at this point, it's hard to discern truth, particularly regarding football.
Phillip White
217 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:04:31
Harrison is a decent signing if he signs, but Everton should be on the phone to Celtic right now for Kyogo. UTFT
Paul Ferry
218 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:09:39
We have absolutely zero chance of signing Kyogo - zero, actually less than zero.

Paul Tran
219 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:13:57
I suspect Kyogo is waiting for the call from Ange.
Jamie Evans
220 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:14:20
Is this the signing that allows Gray to leave?
Mark Tanton
221 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:16:03
Is there a quota for players who didn't want to come but grudgingly came in the end anyway? We must be desperately close to it.
Gavin Johnson
222 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:19:30
Ian #215

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with getting Harrison and possibly Gnonto, but we then have Danjuma, McNeil, Harrison and Gnonto, with their preference to play on the left.

I'm sure one of them will do a decent job on the right side so Iwobi can challenge Doucoure for that role, but you'd think as you say, we would just go for a player like Summerville, or even Tete who are right sided players.

They're reporting Beto's the striker target now, so if we can add him and the Leeds lads, I will be very impressed with the business all things considered.

Jack Convery
223 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:20:44
Jack Harrison Stats for past 3 seasons on Transfermarket :

PL 116. Goals 24. Assists 20. Games missed through Injury Nil.
Subbed 9 times. Started on the bench 9 times. Booked 7 times. Never sent off in last 3 seasons.

In his EPL Career he has PL 107 with 21 goals and 16 assists,

In his entire career he has played:
LW 139 games 46 goal contributions,
RW 93 games 29 goal contributions,
LM 13 games 6 goal contributions,
AM 10 games 5 goal contributions,
RM 5 games 3 goal contributions,
CF 3 games 2 goal contributions,
CM 1 and LB 1.

Paul Tran
224 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:21:13
At least we have the plot for Bill's next stage play. Based on the film Raid on Entebbe, it'll be called The Hijacked Hijackers!
Pat Kelly
225 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:25:43
Is it too early to say “hip hooray”?
Mike Doyle
226 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:28:03
Paul @223,

Agree totally. I'd have Richarlison back in a heartbeat. Some players suit certain clubs - and Ritchie certainly suited us. His work ethic would suit Dyche.

Also, if he doesn't get regular 1st team selection, his place in the Brazil squad will be in jeopardy.

Plus I suspect he's missing the love he received here.

Si Pulford
227 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:29:03
I think we need a mix of promise and predictability. Harrison has good stats and works hard. The new striker has promise. Gnonto and Beto would be amazing but maybe asking too much.

Also, people saying why didn't we activate his transfer clause months ago…. We may well have. Doesn't mean he has to sign for us, he's perfectly entitled to wait and see who else comes in and Leeds are entitled to see if someone comes in and buys him outright or they can't gamble and hope he stays for another season and help them get promoted.

The idea that a release clause, when triggered, guarantees the player will instantly just up sticks and have to move to that club is naive at best.

Gavin Johnson
228 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:40:32
It's reported as a straight loan and there's no option to buy. Does anyone know if that's the same with Danjuma?? I've not seen anything about that. When we nearly bought him back in January, I seem to remember there was a buy option but not heard that this time.

I see Leeds apparently want Tom Cannon now. Would anyone be surprised if we sold him to Leeds for £8-9M so we can then afford to buy Gnonto?

Soren Moyer
229 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:44:53
Villa realized that it was a Rex Harrison lookalike they had hijacked, so they pulled out immediately!

C'mon Everton, sign him today.

Alex Gray
230 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:45:10
If there's no option to buy, I wouldn't go for it to be honest.

He's injured for weeks, then takes time to get match fit, then at the end of the season, another team can poach him if he's actually any good for us, whilst we pay all his wages?

Not to mention he just binned us off for Villa and is only coming back because they know he's crocked.

Alex Gray
231 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:46:21
Also, if Leeds want Tom Cannon, tell them £15M considering they're trying to swindle us for Gnonto.
Mark Murphy
232 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:48:43
I’d love us to bring in that young lad Ferguson from Brighton.
Steve Shave
233 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:50:50
Gavin, the Danjuma deal does not come with an obligation to buy if memory serves. Personally I hope the Harrison one is with an obligation to purchase.
Lyndon Lloyd
234 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:50:52
Gavin (229), as far as I know, there is no option to buy Danjuma either.
Si Pulford
235 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:50:56
Mark, I agree Ferguson is the real deal.

In years gone by, we would take him from Brighton.

However, now he's at a better club and we've got no chance. What a great job they've done down there.

Phillip White
236 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:51:01
218 why? Put a bid in then and let's see! Start acting like a football club for once and go after him. if he says no, then fair enough, move on, but you have to at least try and get him.
Matt Byrne
237 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:51:30
Lukaku and Richarlison would arguably get in an Everton Premier League era XI. They both played their best club football at Everton.

Surely there should be enquiries about the possibility of bringing one or the other here on loan. Their clubs can only say no. There is nothing to lose asking the question.

Gavin Johnson
238 Posted 13/08/2023 at 19:53:10
Evan Ferguson is some player. It's a pity he wasn't playing for Brighton when we had money. Then again, Moshiri would have probably still said no, and bought whoever his Israeli agent mate pushed us to sign.
Paul Tran
239 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:00:14
Phillip, how do know we haven't gone after him? Because mymumsbedroom.com haven't splashed the internet with an 'exclusive'? I like him, but he's waiting for Ange to call him.

Time for Young Mr Grace to call his old mate Levy for a cheeky loan bid for Richarlison?

Michael Burke
240 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:02:32
Villa were in for Harrison during the January transfer window for a reasonably high fee, £20M+. This isn't a new development for them.

I'm also staggered by those calling for us to sign Che Adams. He has a worse goal-scoring record than Maupay. Chris Wood would be a better shout if we are that desperate.

Paul Ferry
241 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:08:18
I was thinking along those lines also, Paul.

It's simply not working out for both the club and Richarlison and it seems nailed on that Spurs will get one and possibly two strikers in (bet you one of them is Beto!).

In these circumstances, this loan would certainly be more realistic than say Kyogo or pie-in-the-sky Evan Ferguson (who Spurs might well bid for).

Brian Wilkinson
242 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:08:50
If we get Harrison, Gnotto and Beto in, I am willing to wager a pint on the next meet up in the Harloch pub, that a leak comes out of one of the media outlets saying how Bill worked hard from his sickbed, to get these deals over the line, through tough negotiations, and it was all down to Bill, any takers on a pint?

If the deals fall through, it was Thelwell's fault, Bill was resting up and could not sort the deals out.

Tom Bowers
243 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:17:37
The more offensive options we have, the better.

Yesterday was disappointing, to say the least, but shit happens and we Evertonians have seen more than our fair share of it for quite a few seasons now but we remain optimistic despite the incompetence at board level and one or two other places.

It's sad though that some deals couldn't have been reached sooner.

Paul Tran
244 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:18:03
Nailed it, Brian!
Rob Halligan
245 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:21:44
Michael # 241…

I'm not advocating a move for Che Adams, but to say he has a worse recent goal-scoring record than Maupay is way off target. He's scored two in Southampton's first two games.

Maupay has one in his first season and one game for us. Obviously, I don't know Adams's full record compared to Maupay, but surely it can't be any worse?

Jay Evans
246 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:30:08
Exactly what we need - another winger.

Oh well at least he’s injured until after the first international break. Another plus point.

Already sporting the scouse bird eyebrows as well. He just needs his lips doing and he’ll be right at home on the school run.

Ray Roche
247 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:32:06
Cruel, but funny!
Bill Gienapp
248 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:33:45
Assuming this gets over the line, I wouldn't be surprised if we learn that Villa's interest was mostly speculative and sources jumped the gun on this talk of the deal being 100% hijacked (which seemed to be the implication of Ornstein's tweet, coupled with the Bobble deleting his other tweets).

It seems a bit dubious that he'd be getting a medical at Finch Farm, talk to Emery on the phone, travel to Villa, have a second medical, followed by Villa assessing the medical and electing to reject the move, followed by Harrison and Everton resuming the prior deal as if nothing happened, all in the span of a few hours.

Michael Burke
249 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:34:04
Rob, Maupay has more Premier League goals than Adams!!! And I think in fewer games. There isn't much in it.

Chris Wood has scored nearly as many as the pair combined.

ps: I don't for one minute suggest we go in for Wood. Although he did hit double figures in each season under Dyche.

Peter Gorman
250 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:38:40
I really hope we sign this lad Harrison.

I can't wait to see him and McNeil pinging crosses to each other over Maupay's head.

Alex Gray
251 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:43:45
Michael, to be fair, Maupay played in a Brighton team that created chances for fun so it's no wonder his stats looked a bit better. He also missed many, many sitters at Brighton too.

Che Adams is also not the answer by the way. Just another Journeyman who looks decent in the Championship and then flatters to deceive in the Premier League.

Gavin Johnson
252 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:49:23
Maupay was a 20+ goal poacher for Brentford in the Championship, Adams had a similar record for Birmingham. Neither of them have replicated it in the Premier league.

I could be wrong but I would say Adams has a marginally better record in the Prem. Afterall, he hasn't gone 30 games to score 1 goal, like Maupay.

Neither of them are good enough for Everton. If we aren't going to pull a rabbit out of the hat and sign Beto, or Hugo Ekiteke, we need to go to Leicester and get Iheanacho, Daka, or even Vardy (One year deal for Vardy) All of them would be better options, with Iheanacho and Daka having higher ceilings than Maupay or Adams.

Dale Self
253 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:53:28
Having a clever possession player who makes intelligent runs would advance Garner’s and Patterson’s game immediately. We could potentially sit Gana for late game management moving Doucoure back a bit. Harrison would give us many options on how much to weight the attack in our setup.
Anthony Dove
254 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:55:03
He was at City, although he never played for them, and was
on loan to Leeds for 3 years before they bought him.

I recall him being very inconsistent, capable of good and
bad in equal measures. Perhaps he's matured now but I
don't have great expectations.

Paul Ferry
255 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:55:50
Gavin Johnson 254:

"I could be wrong but I would say Adams has a marginally better record in the Premier League".

You are wrong, Gavin.

Paul Tran
256 Posted 13/08/2023 at 20:57:35
How do medicals work for injured players. Are they sold as seen? Is the parent club liable? Do we fork out for extra insurance?
Dale Self
257 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:03:43
If Thelwell timed it so that Everton activated the release right after the Tyler Adams Chelsea move collapsed, I think that is a master move. Given what we have to work with, he seems to be on it.
Neil Copeland
258 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:04:34
Bill #250, he must have a fast car too!
Peter Moore
259 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:14:28
Fast car or a helicopter! The wages top players are on now, they could afford a helicopter and personal pilot too.

Just googled average private helicopter cost: £750k.
Probably like £75 is to me for a Premier League footballer in 2023.

The sheer scale of the finances in modern top-level football is quite something isn't it. It's a wonder some allegedly shady individuals and regimes don't allegedly find football a good way to launder ill-gotten gains…

Gavin Johnson
260 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:18:23
Sorry Paul, I stand corrected.

I know that Maupay scored roughly 10 goals a season at Brighton. Adams isn't too far off 10 goals a season with Saints, but given Maupay's horrendous record with us. I would have thought Adams would have slightly the better overall goal to game record. Maybe you could enlighten me as I'm not a Stato?

But whatever the case. Neither are good enough for Everton and Adams is another Umper Loompa like Maupay and too small anyway.

Brendan McLaughlin
261 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:33:43
Paul #258

Has to be "sold as seen" given that the buying club can medical the shit out of any potential new recruit?

I imagine we'd have to fork out for extra insurance though...

Paul Tran
262 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:37:29
Cheers Brendan, that's what I thought. If we get him and he's out for longer, there'll be mayhem on here, especially as Dyche, rightly, doesn't rush them back anyway!
Paul Ferry
263 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:38:43
Totally agree Gavin (J) and absolutely no need for "sorry", the margins are very thin.
Brendan McLaughlin
264 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:43:50
Paul #264

"Mayhem on here"...how very dare you!

Tony Everan
265 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:49:16
I have heard some full-blown bullshit in my time, but this ‘we only just realised he was injured' line is an unforgettable one.

“Aston Villa, not intentioned to proceed on Jack Harrison deal as they believe he's injured for some weeks and can't replace Buendía (ACL injury).”

Colin Glassar
266 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:52:47
Another crock, à la Delph? I'll give the lad a chance but I don't think his injury record is great.
Fran Mitchell
267 Posted 13/08/2023 at 21:58:53
Anthony, if he was consistently playing at his best form, we wouldn't stand a chance of getting him. Anyone we sign is going to have an issue.

We have 2 options: young and unproven – like Chermiti; or Premier League ready but not good enough for the 'top' teams. If they are proven performers at a consistent level, they go to the bigger, richer teams for big fees – see Barnes, Maddison, Rice and Co.

For the level we are at, and the market we are in, I see Harrison as an astute signing. Low loan-fee, reasonable wages, Premier League ready, still young enough to improve, and good stats.

He isn't a player who will make us an unstoppable force, but he is a player who provides real competition for places on both the right and left wing which we are clearly lacking and provides a goal threat.

Our first 11 is okay when everyone is fit, but the bench is severely limited and we are always an injury or suspension away from disaster. And the players in the first 11 have easy street knowing they keep their place no matter what.

Should also enable Dobbin to go out on loan to a Championship team and get another 30-35 games under his belt if that is deemed best for his development.

Brian Williams
268 Posted 13/08/2023 at 22:02:26
I'd check his injury record if I were you, Col.
Fran Mitchell
269 Posted 13/08/2023 at 22:05:09

In the past 5 seasons: 42, 48, 37, 38, and 40 appearances across all domestic competitions.

He is currently injured, but absolutely nothing to suggest he's a 'crock'.

John Raftery
270 Posted 13/08/2023 at 22:05:39
Colin (268),

On reading your comment about Harrison's injury record, I checked his Premier League appearances for the last three seasons; 36, 35 and 36. Getting him on loan would reduce the risk of lumbering the club with a crock on a long-term contract.

Neil Lawson
271 Posted 13/08/2023 at 22:17:25
269 posts so far about a crocked winger on loan who may not play for somewhere between 3 weeks and 3 months. We are a desperate bunch when we can waste so much time and effort.

It would have been much easier if all 269 posts repeated the simple mantra Buy a striker now.

Nathan Ford
272 Posted 13/08/2023 at 22:26:25
I hoping the plan is to sell Gray for £12-15M and bring in Harrison on loan for the season. Put that money towards a striker as we need cash up front.

Fingers crossed as Saturday showed we desperately need a striker or three!

Sam Hoare
273 Posted 13/08/2023 at 22:44:03
Whilst I would have preferred Gnonto or possibly even Summerville or Sulemana from Soton; it cannot be denied that Harrison is an excellent fit for Dyches system.

He knows the league, is an extremely hard worker, and is capable of producing goals and assists. He has played a lot at RW and is a similar type to McNeil. Reliable but also capable.

It's pretty good business that we've managed to bring in Harrison, Danjuma and Chermiti for around £7m this summer (loan fees and initial payment). This should in theory leave us with some money to spend on other positions and I'm still hoping we might get Gnonto who I've rather set my heart upon.

I wonder if securing Harrison will see the departure of Gray or maybe even Iwobi (who surely cannot be allowed to run his contract down).

Gavin Johnson
274 Posted 13/08/2023 at 23:04:51
Kieran, I was thinking exactly the same thing about Gbamin the other day. He's gone off the radar and there seems to be no reported interest for him in the media.

I was wondering if we've come to the conclusion that we won't get any kind of fee and he's happy to walk away from his contract and find something himself, so he's been released.

Paul Birmingham
275 Posted 13/08/2023 at 23:07:56
Sam, yes good business and it would be more or less the only way Everton can trade these days in the transfer market.

I sense a good spirit on TW, on what has been one of those transfer market days.

Hopefully more players coming in, but surely a few will be leaving in the next couple of weeks.

But there’s hope, on the horizon, and let’s see which Everton turn up at Villa.


Drew O’Neall
276 Posted 13/08/2023 at 23:12:55
Is it possible that McNeil is in fact not injured but lined up for sale, given our persistent approaches for left wingers? Left wing was one position we didn't need improving.
John Chambers
277 Posted 13/08/2023 at 23:27:53

I presume you mean McNeil?

Ed Prytherch
278 Posted 14/08/2023 at 00:12:29
Sam 273, How much do you think we could get for Iwobi?
Joe Digney
279 Posted 14/08/2023 at 01:59:45
What a mad few hours that was, just another day in the life of being a blue I suppose.

Quality signing on loan, being reported he’s out for 5 weeks now though which is a bit of ballache but we’re going to need the bodies this season.

Phil Sammon
280 Posted 14/08/2023 at 02:44:31
We would be mad to get rid of Iwobi or, worse, McNeil. I’m even against losing Gray really but seems like that’s happening. You look at the benches of other teams compared to us. We have absolutely nothing to go to if we want to make a change.
Nicholas Ryan
281 Posted 14/08/2023 at 02:58:15
Hip Hip Hooray!
Steve Brown
282 Posted 14/08/2023 at 03:53:04
Sam@ 273, I hear what you say on ensuring a fee for Iwobi if he leaves. Relegation would be far more costly than any fee we could leverage for him.

However, I agree with Phil. Selling the player who created 9 assists last season in a squad that has no goals and assists in it would be mad. I also thought he was excellent on Saturday.

Steve Brown
283 Posted 14/08/2023 at 03:55:32
Pat @ 150, some really funny comments on this thread.

Thanks for starting my day off with laughs! Keep it up as we all need cheering up being Everton supporters.

Mike Gaynes
284 Posted 14/08/2023 at 04:58:56
Top news. Fine player.
Mal van Schaick
285 Posted 14/08/2023 at 05:08:31
We have enough wonkey donkeys without another player hobbling up and down the pitch. His assist rate looks decent but he will only be as god as what is in front of him, and at the moment, that is nobody.

Two strikers are a must, or else it’s more of last season.

Sam Hoare
286 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:02:50
Phil@280 I like Iwobi more than anyone on TW but if we got a decent offer for him (I’m not sure anyone else will pay him near £100k though) then we’d be mad not to sell and let him leave on a free. Money is tight so if his leaving now allowed us to get a replacement then that’s better business. No chance we’d sell McNeill.

Hypothetically replacing Gray and Iwobi with Danjuma, Harrison and Gnonto plus maybe some cheaper gem from somewhere ( Nuamah from Nordsjaelland) would be fine with me and would give us better options. We have to be sensible about our business which means selling smartly as well as buying smartly. Not that there’s any rumors of people paying the £15-20m we would want for Iwobi.

Sam Hoare
287 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:11:44
A diehard Leeds fan whose a pal sent me this appraisal of Harrison by the way:

Very talented player, great fitness and can be a match winner on his day. Can hold onto the ball for too long which can be frustrating but has constantly improved since we signed him - put it this way, I’m glad we’ve loaned him rather than sold him. All round good signing for Everton I reckon 👍🏻

Alan J Thompson
288 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:12:19
Various postings have him providing 40 assists in 3 seasons which could equate to 1 every 3 games while others seem to indicate a better record. My question is that if he does the same at Everton then who is it he'll be providing the assists for or is it the bloke on the cot next to him in sick bay? "And we'll all pull together in jolly good company..... " all together now.
Danny Baily
289 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:17:36
A new face with PL experience, happy with that. Will probably see Gray depart soon as a result.
Colin Glassar
290 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:18:16
Bri, Fran, John, it was my lad who said Harrison had a poor injury record. I honestly don’t remember him standing out playing for Leeds but if he’s as good as some are saying then, welcome aboard.

I also don’t get why we are going for so many wingers when we need an out and out goal scorer/striker. And as for Iwobi? Anything above £10m and I’d personally carry him (piggyback) to his hew club.

Danny Baily
291 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:21:07
Iwobi is the closest thing to a playmaker we have and is irreplaceable given our current financial predicament. I'd keep him, even if it means he leaves on a free eventually.
Eddie Dunn
292 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:40:10
Harrison is a decent player and will strengthen our squad. The loan leaves Leeds the option of having him back on their return(hoefully) to the PL and gives us time to save-up to buy him next year.
Meanwhile, what money we have can still be spent on that lesser-spotted striker.
Keith Gleave
293 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:48:52
Saturday proves what we supporters have known for a number of years, we need a striker. So, yet again we bring in an injured player. Regardless of how good or not he is, we need players who can play now, not in seven weeks.
Rob Halligan
294 Posted 14/08/2023 at 07:56:59
Everton are to play man united in a behind closed doors friendly this midweek, in order to give a 90 minute run out for the likes of DCL, which will probably mean he will be in contention to start, or at least play a part at Villa next weekend. Should he come through with no ill effects that is.
Ray Roche
295 Posted 14/08/2023 at 08:19:55
Rob, I wonder if this game is also to allow United to have a closer look at Onana?
Jerome Shields
296 Posted 14/08/2023 at 08:24:11
He may be injured at the moment, but aleast we have someone in the pipeline that can finish.Everton really need to improve play in the final third.
Rob Halligan
297 Posted 14/08/2023 at 08:27:24
Ray, I doubt very much there will be that many first teamers playing in this game. I guess the team will be mainly made up of U23 players, along with the likes of DCL, Mykolenko and Danjuma, maybe even Chermiti, just to give them some game time.
Si Pulford
298 Posted 14/08/2023 at 08:44:06
Forget about the position he plays and ask ‘are we stronger with Harrison’ the answer is yes. ‘Are we likely to score more goals…’ again yes.

I get it’s frustrating that he’s injured but most players pick up a knock at some point in the season. I also get he’s not a striker but while we’re trying to get strikers in we can’t stop strengthening other areas. Especially for free!!!

As for Iwobi. I’d play him 10 and keep him, yes we loose a fee but we need him to stay up. From my seat on Saturday he was head and shoulders above the rest. Patterson was horrendous again. I’d play Garner at right back (where he just won the U21 World Cup) and play Iwobi ahead of Gana and Onana with (when fit….) McNeil and Harrison on the wings and Dom up front.

That first 11 would also have Chermiti Doucoure, Danjuma even Maupay on the bench.

Not everyone will agree with that line up but it shows we will at least have some options. And that’s without Gnonto, and hopefully a striker to come in.

Fingers crossed it could be a very good window. Over to you Thelwell.

Rob Halligan
299 Posted 14/08/2023 at 08:51:07
SSN now confirm deal done.
Geoff Lambert
300 Posted 14/08/2023 at 08:51:35
Si #298 Bang on the money sir. You just said everything I was going to say.
Tony Graham
301 Posted 14/08/2023 at 08:52:12
Were 16th in the table, will take that...
Rob Halligan
302 Posted 14/08/2023 at 08:59:57
Tony # 301……..if Man Utd beat wolves by more than two goals tonight, then we rise to 15th. The only way is up! 😁😁👍👍
Paul Birmingham
303 Posted 14/08/2023 at 09:18:01
Great news, and very happy with this shrewd deal.

A few more in, including a couple of strikers by the end of this window, Everton will have great chance to improve and get the goals, their offensive play deserved last Saturday.


Clive Rogers
304 Posted 14/08/2023 at 09:19:38
Danjuma didn’t look like a CF on Saturday. He kept drifting out to the left wing, even when Dobbin was there.
Tony Everan
305 Posted 14/08/2023 at 09:20:06
Interesting that Myers says there is a release clause, no details though.

“*Loan Deal done, there is a release clause which means move could become permanent during loan spell

*No last minute issues as rumoured

*Villa were in for him but that was some time ago

*Kevin Thelwell persistent in securing one of clubs main targets”

Colin Glassar
306 Posted 14/08/2023 at 09:24:42
Some Leeds “sources” are saying we are £5m short of their valuation of Gnoto. If that’s the case, why don’t we chuck in Gomes and Gbamin to make up the difference? Surely they are worth £2.5m each.
Mark Andrews
307 Posted 14/08/2023 at 09:26:18
Any sign of a striker?
The elephant in the room has turned into a herd.
Michael Lynch
308 Posted 14/08/2023 at 09:27:09
Won't be fit til October according to the Echo, which means late November knowing our luck.

I'm not even counting this as a signing until I see him on the team sheet.

We need someone ready-to-go and we need them now.

Ben King
309 Posted 14/08/2023 at 09:37:54
Colin #306

That would of course be wonderful for us. But

1) maybe Leeds don’t want them
2) maybe the wages are too high
3) maybe the players don’t want to go there

Any number of reasons: sadly this isn’t Championship Manager

But of course we can dream eh?

NB: where is Gbamin? Shouldn’t someone fill out a missing persons report for him??

Brian Williams
310 Posted 14/08/2023 at 09:42:10
Just goes to show how silly the reactions are on here sometimes.
People going apeshit over Villa trying to hijack the move, then going apeshit about us taking someone Villa turned down at the death.
All rubbish. There was no late hijack attempt from Villa at all.
All journo shite cobbled together as clickbait.
John Raftery
311 Posted 14/08/2023 at 10:12:09
We were first linked with Harrison in early June. The fact it has taken two months to secure a deal is indicative of how challenging it is to make transfers happen, especially for a club in our straitened circumstances.

My Leeds based relatives rate Harrison very highly. His departure compounds the disappointment of a poor start to the season.

Assuming he gets himself fit by October we can expect him not only to provide assists but also to score five or six goals this season. In a team bereft of goal scorers that will be very welcome.

Si Pulford
312 Posted 14/08/2023 at 10:23:12
Ornstein saying no loan fee so this is a great deal.
Clive Rogers
313 Posted 14/08/2023 at 10:23:15
We’ve more chance of finding Lord Lucan than Gbamin.
Stefan Busby
314 Posted 14/08/2023 at 10:23:58
Peter Gorman @50,

"I really hope we sign this lad Harrison.

I can't wait to see him and McNeil pinging crosses to each other over Maupay's head."'

Laughed hard at this :D

Robert Tressell
315 Posted 14/08/2023 at 10:40:17
Si # 298 & John # 311, all very sensible points.

4 players signed, 3 for the present - 1 probably for the future, all for very little up-front outlay. It is obviously extremely difficult to bring these players in with so little room for manoeuvre financially.

I could see us making up to 3 or even 4 more signings (filling up our loan quotas, free transfers or small initial down-payments). But it wouldn't amaze me if we don't bring in another striker – especially if we cannot shift Maupay.

Ian Jones
316 Posted 14/08/2023 at 10:48:09
What many people also tend to forget is that the player and presumably family have to want to move to a different club and be happy with their choice.

I looked at Wikipedia as that gives a reasonable summary of his recent career. He seems to be well thought of by many former teammates... this is what some say of him:

Ahead of his move to Manchester City, Harrison was praised by former teammate Andrea Pirlo, who said of Harrison 'He is very young, he's fast and he is capable of playing in Europe. He's a good player.'

Another former teammate Frank Lampard who said 'I think there a lot of big things to come from Jack. I like him, he's a great lad, great ability.'

Harrison is a versatile left footed attacker, who plays as a winger, mainly on the left flank, he is also comfortable playing on the right side. He can also play as an attacking midfield playmaker.

He is known for his pace, his dribbling ability and workrate. Former New York City teammate David Villa described Harrison, "I've spent a lot of years in this game, and he has something important that only a few players have, when he has the ball at his feet, you get the sensation something special is going to happen."

His former New York City manager Patrick Vieira said of Harrison, "He's a good player, technically he's really good, he understands the game, he can come and link with our No. 9, he can run behind the back four, his football brain is fantastic."

I appreciate those are positive...

I imagine many ToffeeWebbers will be able to add balance with their negative thoughts after seeing him in his first warm-up. :)

Sam Hoare
317 Posted 14/08/2023 at 10:50:40
No loan fee?! This is great business! Uncharacteristically smart move by us. He's super fit. Wouldn't be surprised to see him on the pitch in 3 weeks.
Karl Masters
318 Posted 14/08/2023 at 11:03:10
Dyche is very cautious bringing players back from injury, Sam. Not necessarily a bad thing, but your 3 weeks could easily end up being mid-October. Hips are slow healers and crucial to leg movement so no compromises are possible.

I remember Mina and Gomes both being injured when we signed them and both took ages to recover from ‘minor' injuries. In Andre's case it was the late October he finally started.

Look forward to seeing him play eventually.

Nathan Ford
319 Posted 14/08/2023 at 11:04:39
Hopefully up and running by October and will definitely be needed when afcon kicks off. Fingers crossed this is a shrewd signing
Karl Masters
321 Posted 14/08/2023 at 11:13:15
Colin 306, no reason for us not to offer Gbamin and Gomes to Leeds except they won’t want to pay £80k pw to one and £100k pw to the other, esp in the Championship.

It’s the Contracts that players are on that is the massive problem Everton have.

If 90% plus of your income is going on the wage bill that leaves diddly squat for transfer fees… and that’s before the infamous lawnmowers etc and building a new stadium.

Our priorities at present have to be reducing the average age of the squad to

1) reduce the wage bill

2) increase potential sell on prices

3) increase the opportunity to improve players through coaching and get better results

4) have a younger, hungrier team with players who have something to prove and give 100%

It’s the Brighton model, but they’ve brought in £300m in transfer fees in 18 months by doing this and safeguarded the club’s future for some time whilst paying off debts and getting into Europe.

Role of the coach is so crucial, as is the scouting

Jim Lloyd
322 Posted 14/08/2023 at 11:13:36
I saw him on Youtube (yes, I know) and knew if we got him, we'd have a player that'd frighten defences, score goals as well as create them. more than that though, it was really glaringly obvious that he's always looking at options available both for link up play and for crosses.
I think we've got a gem, for at least a season. He's injured, well fair enough, but our medical team will have run the rule over him and I don't think a few weeks without him, including a football break, will do us too much harm. I'm thinking more, of what he can bring us for the rest of the season.
(Hope I haven't put a Hex on him here; but he looks the business. It probably means Gray is going, If so I wish him well and he's done a really good job for us while he's been here. Don't believe it, I'm getting my optimism back again!
Martin Reppion
323 Posted 14/08/2023 at 11:53:03
What 90% of the comments on this site seem to miss is that we are not a big draw of a club at the moment. We've been a basket case for a while.

This has been a marvellous piece of business. Wait until he's approaching fitness. Have him on the back burner while we try to get others. Then do the deal when we have to.

One thing I would now do is send a video of the chances we created on Saturday to every want-away centre-forward around the leagues. Who would not want to have that many opportunities to score in a game?

Come to Everton and bang these in!! (If you think you are any good…)

David Hallwood
324 Posted 14/08/2023 at 12:33:12
Good signing, even though it means we'll have more left wingers than a RMT picketline, but like everyone else, it's the absence of a striker that quite frankly terrifies me.

Just imagine coming out of the ground vs Bournemouth relieved that we'd missed Championship football by 33 minutes after finishing with the league's 2nd lowest goals tally.

You bump into Nostadarmus in the Wimslow who tells you that the opening game of the season we'll be starting with Keane, Maupay but Dom out injured and not a back-up striker on the horizon, what would be your reaction?

Even taking FFP into consideration it's a scandalous state of affairs that we've yet again ended up like the TV show Bargain running round picking up any old shite in the hope we turn a profit.

It comes to something that I want the season to end before it's started

Mike Hayes
325 Posted 14/08/2023 at 13:18:27
Rumours abound Everton are in for a player that's been dead for a while but i think they can strike a deal given his past record. If all goes well, Madame Za Za will get in touch to negotiate. 👻
Dale Self
326 Posted 14/08/2023 at 13:32:55
Can we still get Dame Edna?
David West
327 Posted 14/08/2023 at 13:36:57
I said weeks ago in response to an article by Sam Hoare on transfer business that this lad would be a good signing.

He got more assists than any of our players last year. He scored more too. 26 years old in his prime. Upgrades our options massively. Definitely an improvement on Gray.

The only thing that worries me about our business up to now (apart from the striker missing): Young is 38; Danjuma is a loan (no option); and Harrison is a loan (no option). If these players leave next season, we are back to the same place again of needing players.

Then we have a few out of contract next year too, we will need another massive overhaul in 12 months.

I know it's about improving options this year, but it's not a long-term solution.

Sam Merritt
328 Posted 14/08/2023 at 13:56:34
Harrison a good loan signing. Need a striker though! Iheanacho?? £10-15m, last year of contract and Prem League experience.
Iakovos Iasonidis
329 Posted 14/08/2023 at 14:27:50
The thing I like most about this transfer is that it was quick and under the radar. I wish him well and I hope we see him sooner than expected. We need to offload some more deadwood like holgate, gbamin... and add if we can some more quality all across the pitch (cb, cm) and a STRIKER!!
Andrew Keatley
330 Posted 14/08/2023 at 14:29:04
Robert (315) - It would be a big risk to make all of our permitted loans in this window, as it would mean any urgent January transfer window business would only be possible by buying players outright - and maybe it is now starting to become apparent to everyone that we do not have any money to spend unless we sell.

We are already very limited with that is possible in the transfer market, and plugging a fresh hole with a loan signing is going to be a card we need to have up our sleeve come January.

Signing Harrison (injured or not) on loan makes sense because he can score and assist at this level, and because he meets the necessary criteria of not costing any money.

Get ready everybody. Either we’re going to sell Onana, Iwobi or Branthwaite then scramble for a week or so to sign a player or two… Or we’ll sell on the final day of the window, then huff and puff to bring someone in with hours left and ultimately be disappointed with the result (nobody arriving, or someone who doesn’t improve us à la Maupay.

These are bleak times.

Mike Hayes
331 Posted 14/08/2023 at 14:47:14
Andrew Keatley - rumour from the Guardian: Man Utd after Onana – they can watch him tomorrow in the training match 🤷
Barry Rathbone
332 Posted 14/08/2023 at 14:49:33
Could be big here judging by his showreel.

Great touch, goes past people and comfortable in front of goal, everything we've been lacking.

Paul Birmingham
333 Posted 14/08/2023 at 14:56:28
If, as is suggested, Man Utd are after Onana, put an £85M price tag on the deal and no less.

Personally, I hope we don't sell him; we need to build a squad with a good blend of skill and grit.


Mick Davies
334 Posted 14/08/2023 at 14:57:27
David @ 324 You bump into Nostadarmus in the Wimslow who tells you that the opening game of the season we'll be starting with Keane, Maupay with Dom out injured and not a back up striker on the horizon, what would be your reaction?
Just have a look at most of our pre match posts, that was the result we predicted. Then again, looking on the bright side, we're only a point behind Liverpool
Dale Self
335 Posted 14/08/2023 at 15:12:52
It is a spiral upward not going around in a circle. If you can't see that, you have a flat perspective.
Geoff Lambert
336 Posted 14/08/2023 at 15:18:39
What on Earth are you on about, Dale?
Paul Tran
337 Posted 14/08/2023 at 15:21:03
If Man Utd want Onana and he wants to go, how about £60m plus McTominay?
James Lawton
338 Posted 14/08/2023 at 15:27:11
Does 'Nil Satis Nisi Optimum' translate to 'Never Happy, always Whingeing'?
Mike Hayes
339 Posted 14/08/2023 at 15:34:53
James Lawton not a lot to get excited about of late - party starts when Kenwright goes and the club gets pulled out of the basket case it finds itself in. 🤷
Dale Self
340 Posted 14/08/2023 at 15:41:24
Geoff, the negative interpretations that are in obvious overdrive simply do not match up with the outcomes observed. I don't need the action so I won't list them out but just have a look above. Those comments get it offensively wrong and so I am giving what I believe is the more reliable take on our present transfer matters.

Do I get to do that?

Paul Kossoff
341 Posted 14/08/2023 at 15:44:29
He looks a very good attacking winger. Doesn't seem to mind which side he beats a defender on, fast, direct, shot in both feet. Definitely looks an upgrade on what we have.

Danger with loans, if he comes good he goes elsewhere.

Good vid on YouTube:


Ed Prytherch
342 Posted 14/08/2023 at 15:55:46
I think that Pickford was our only left footed player on the pitch on Saturday. Adding a skillful left footer will improve the team.
Johan Elmgren
343 Posted 14/08/2023 at 16:30:30
Going for Gnonto, ending up with Harrison. Wanting someone who can score, getting Maupay. Wanting a playmaker, getting Iwobi... Story of our transferbusiness for ages, always getting the lesser player.

That's why we've been fighting in the bottom for the last couple of seasons. Never been so dejected 'bout my Everton before...

Jack Convery
344 Posted 14/08/2023 at 16:37:31
If Onana goes we now quote a minimum £70M. Full Belgium International after all. If Caicedo is valued at £115M, Onana can't go for just £50M surely. Lavia is being quoted at £50M, so Onana can't go cheaply. Branthwaite stays and plays, end of.

I would rather take McTominay than Maguire but, as we know, this is Everton we're talking about. It'll be Onana plus £15M for one of them, plus a 20% of any future sale of either Maguire, McTominay and Brandon Williams on a season loan.

On another note, is Tom Davies pricing himself out of a move because Everblue Bill has made contact and told him we'll bring him back in and on a much improved contract – we look after our own.

Ed Prytherch
345 Posted 14/08/2023 at 16:39:22
Johan, why do you think that Gnonto is better than Harrison?

He typically came on as a sub for Harrison in the second half of games and he scored 2 goals in 24 appearances in the Premier League last season.

Harrison has averaged 7 goals each season. I would be hesitant to take a player who downs tools when he does not get his own way.

Paul Kossoff
346 Posted 14/08/2023 at 16:58:33
So let me get this straight:

We have no striker to cover for Calvert-Lewin, so we go and bring in another winger to cover for the winger, McNeil, who is out for a few weeks injured.

The other winger we have, Gray, is apparently being sold but Dyche says is injured. The other winger we brought in, Danjuma, is or was injured. Now we bring in another winger, Harrison, to cover for the injured or soon to be sold wingers but he is in fact himself injured.

At the same time, no one at Everton seems to grasp the simple fact that, if Calvert-Lewin is injured, we do not have a striker to cover for him. So, if we do manage to get one of our wingers fit enough to play, they have no-one to cross to anyway.

And if Calvert-Lewin just happens to play against Villa on Sunday, he won't have a winger to cross to him. Please tell me if I've missed anything.

Sam Hoare
347 Posted 14/08/2023 at 17:06:33
Manchester United are close to buying Amrabat apparently. I'd be surprised if they wanted Onana too.

If they really do, then I think the Caciedo and Lavia prices have set a good precedent for us. Young Premier League central midfielders with potential are expensive!! He would have to be near £60M or more, as opposed to the £45M we probably would have taken at the start of the summer.

Would be tricky to replace with 2 weeks left but am sure there will be a list for that eventuality.

Christy Ring
348 Posted 14/08/2023 at 17:07:01
If Harrison plays well, and I believe he's a good signing, he's on loan only, we can't buy him permanently? Is that the deal!

Caicedo has signed an 8-year contract, so there's still ways around FFP.

Robert Tressell
349 Posted 14/08/2023 at 17:46:10
Christy, P&S isn't the only constraint on our spending – it's also Moshiri's willingness to spend. I think it's pretty clear that willingness evaporated some time ago.

Johan Elmgren
350 Posted 14/08/2023 at 17:53:00
Ed, I think Harrison flatters do decieve. When I've seen him, he always gets stuck on the wing not going anywhere with his dribbling, often making the wrong decisions. I don't think I've ever seen him score or assist.

He's also pretty much reached his peak, he'll be 27 this year, whereas Gnonto is still a teenager and must be considered to have the potential to develop into a better player than he is now.

I also think Gnonto is better in possession and is faster and trickier. Well, maybe I've seen too little of Harrison, maybe he has more in his toolbox and is better than I think... But in the long haul, Gnonto is definately the better option imho.

Another aspect though is that he's injured until October. That's another worry, is he injury-prone? We would've needed someone who's up and running and can contribute now.

Andrew Ellams
352 Posted 14/08/2023 at 18:13:07

Who says there is no plan?

Sam Hoare
353 Posted 14/08/2023 at 18:14:41
Johan, in the long run, I agree that Gnonto is the better option. And I'm hopeful we might still get him. But if Leeds are asking for £30M, then I think that's too much.

Harrison is ready to contribute right now. A quick look at his stats show that he has missed very few matches due to injury over the last 3 years in the Premier League and has averaged around 12 goals or assists in that time. Our best last season was McNeil with 10 (7 goals and 3 assists).

As a short term option, and given there's not even a loan fee apparently, I see very little to complain about with Harrison other than fact that he's carrying an injury that apparently will keep him out for 3-4 weeks. I'd be surprised if he's not available for the Arsenal match after the international break.

Paul Tran
354 Posted 14/08/2023 at 18:20:13
Johan, check Harrison's appearance record over the last 5years. Doesn't suggest injury prone to me.

Easier to loan Harrison, as he had a release clause. All the indications are that we're still trying to get Gnonto.

More difficult with Gnonto, he has 4 years on his contract and we're in a negotiation game with Leeds, who don't have to sell. That's why that one is taking longer. Doesn't mean we no longer want him.

Johan Elmgren
355 Posted 14/08/2023 at 18:24:40
Sam, Paul - Yes, I hope he proves me wrong and becomes massive for us... Nothing would make me happier :-)
Henrik Lyngsie
356 Posted 14/08/2023 at 18:25:53
I think Harrison is an excellent deal. He is hard working, he keeps the opposition occupied, he creates and he scores. Every time I have been watching him for Leeds I have thought he was very good.

Harrison and McNeil as wingers would be a massive improvement to last season.

If his injury is not serious I think we have done a very smart deal.

Steve Shave
357 Posted 14/08/2023 at 18:42:10
Andrew @352 - genius bud. I would have like to have been there the moment you realised that! I hope the full prophecy unfolds and we sign Ekitikè, a top talent.
Dale Self
358 Posted 14/08/2023 at 18:50:51
Sam, a compliment and a question: Apparently Alan Myers reads your stuff and has mentioned Onana at £60M should Man Utd table an offer.

Then more interestingly, he summarizes the deal making note of a release clause. This would allow Harrison to be bought during the loan is how I read it. So we can buy Harrison without even having to do a loan fee?

Jack Convery
359 Posted 14/08/2023 at 19:15:18
I'm assuming we don't want loans with an intention to buy as we can't commit the money until we know exactly how this transfer window goes, financially speaking. A clause giving a value to meet is better for us at present.

We do need to get players in as a transfer ban come January and probably next summer would mean, no new names for awhile. It may also mean extending contracts to players we want out the door, now and come June 2024.

Talk of GK, Alex McCarthy being possibly available on a free from Southampton as they want his wages off the bill. A decent enough back up but would he want the £50k he gets at the Saints. It seems a lot for a back-up.

David West
360 Posted 14/08/2023 at 19:55:50
Sam @353. I remember you telling me this lad was good but expensive at £15 -20M for a 26 year-old. Well, it seems a steal now, just for wages.

Sam, I always value your opinion, it's always measured and rooted in common sense. While many pine for Gnonto, this lad is proven, robust and ready to contribute. All the things people didn't like about the Chermiti deal.

I always liked this lad, full of desire, likes to get stuck In, never shies away, has ability, has quality from that left or right foot, will create more than anyone we have at the moment.

What I'd say is, are we just kicking the can down the line with short-term loans? What is the buy option? It seems complicated.

If next year Danjuma and Harrison leave and Young is 39, are we any better off long term?

I know we need to improve for this year and in my opinion, we are a good striker away from a very positive window. I see this window as buying time until P&S issues are less constricted, and some more long-term problems can be addressed.

Sam Hoare
361 Posted 14/08/2023 at 20:36:56
Dale@358, who did you hear that from? Would be flattered if that were true.

Regarding Harrison's deal, i've no idea of the truth of the matter but have heard various things including there might be a clause which says we have first option at a set price (around £18m I believe) if Leeds don't get promoted. If they do then the clause is negated.

David@364, thank you kindly. I like Harrison mainly because he seems such a perfect fit for what Dyche wants, fast, very hard-working and direct. I think he'll prove popular.

The kicking the can down the road point is an interesting one. I think actually it's possible that Thelwell is being quite smart and that next summer will prove a pivotal one. Next summer we will definitely be losing some players who have been on prohibitively big contracts (Alli, Gomes, Gbamin etc) and crucially we should be quite close to finishing the stadium. We will be getting very close to being able to make some more exciting moves again in the transfer market I believe (also quite possible we will sell Onana).

We are looking at a relatively young team now (Onana, Patterson, Mykolenko, Branthwaite, Garner, Mcneill, Chermiti, Dobbin etc) and I think the hope is that next summer those players will be further on in the development and we will have wages to spend and be a bigger draw than we are now with Dyche getting us up the table and the shiny new stadium almost ready.

For me this year is about reversing the relegation trend and next year will hopefully be about some real progress. So with limited funds Thelwell is getting us what we need without tying us down to long term comittments, thus setting us up for a strong summer next year with (hopefully) more freedom and greater pull.

So in summary, yes I agree with your last line! I think Thelwell is buying time and doing it cleverly. I'm interested to see who the target will be if Gnonto proves ungettable. Another young dynamic talent I presume. There's definitely signs of progress on the recruitment front and maybe this will be the first summer in a long time we haven't bought at least one dud!

Dale Self
362 Posted 14/08/2023 at 20:40:51
Sam, I inferred as much from him coming to the same figure. I’m sure he does, we all do. Keep it going.
Robert Tressell
363 Posted 14/08/2023 at 20:58:20
David # 364, it's a good point about this summer's recruitment. At the end of the coming season, we could lose Harrison, Danjuma, Young, Iwobi, Gray, Doucoure and Gueye (if they haven't gone already). It's going to leave big gaps in the squad with no money to reinvest in their replacement.

I suspect the answer is that we will try to get a Caicedo-sized fee for Onana from the likes of Man Utd (long-term replacement for Casemiro). Or maybe something along those lines with Branthwaite. That will need to fund a few additions, a few more loans a few free transfers again.

Hence trying to retain our Champions League potential players this summer.

Sam #365, too right – he reads your articles!

Danny O’Neill
364 Posted 14/08/2023 at 21:06:01
From a friend I've know since 1992 who has supported and followed Leeds all his life.

"Great player. Better than Gray. Will work hard and score some great goals. Not great at corners but will take players on. Great signing"

Let's see what he does in an Everton shirt.

Chris Hockenhull
365 Posted 14/08/2023 at 21:17:52
Robert (367)… Dear Lord… season not even a week old… 2 teams playing their first game as we speak.. and you’re already rolling off a list potential people leaving??? Ffs… I spent a lifetime trying to motivate people and give them belief but.. there are many who love to wallow in the bathtub of negativity/ despair and negativity. Too many freak out if asked to put a slant on positivity in this world. Please keep away from those who wouldn’t mind an odd glimpse of light at the end of the tunnel… especially Everton FC…. Big please
David West
366 Posted 14/08/2023 at 21:18:38
Sam. I do agree on Thelwell, he's buying time, without really spending money. We could say he's loaning time. He should still have a decent kitty for a striker.

I like how he's going about his business. I'll probably get jumped on because there's no "starting striker " yet, but I'd rather wait and get the right player than rush it.
He knows what's needed, what we can afford & who's available at our level.
I belive Lampard pushed for Maupay, now Thelwell is extra cautious, because we don't need 2 non scoring strikers.

If he can attract the right player up front, as you say next year could be a transformative one, with p&s shackles loosening, the stadium & more big earners off the books.

Shaun Laycock
367 Posted 14/08/2023 at 21:36:24
From the outside in it looks as if the recruitment has a plan to it...short term fixes with loans to keep the wolves from the door and young potential looking at resale value down the line.
David West
368 Posted 14/08/2023 at 21:42:41
Rob. 364
It's a worry if we don't improve this year. If we struggle again and these loans move on, out of contracts leave, we will struggle to fill the gaps as we will be even more associated with relagation battles..

I personally have faith in what Thelwell is trying to do. Maupay apart he's spent wisely.

If Onana turns out to be 50m + player, then it's OK to move him on and reinvest.
Who knows if Chermiti will be the same and we are fighting off offers for him ?
I'd like to see Branthwaite develop for a year or 2, as a quality English centre back could go for £100m if he proves himself, look at maguire to utd !!

We Shouldn't be afraid or ashamed to sell on players for big profits to reinvest, as long as it is to reinvest.
This is what German clubs have done, selling players bought cheap, developing them, selling them, reinvest.
They see no problem with it.

John Chambers
369 Posted 14/08/2023 at 22:20:17
Re the recruitment comments looks like we are pinching a youngster from Chelsea for a change
“Everton have agreed trial forms with highly-rated Chelsea academy prospect Malik Mothersille in view of signing him on a permanent basis.”
Article in The Athletic
Dupont Koo
370 Posted 15/08/2023 at 02:31:44
Sam @361, I agreed with you that :

1) Next summer is pivotal because the apparent £350k per week Salaries of the "Holy Trinity" (Dele, Gomes and Gbamin) will finally be off the books (if the collective £150k per week earned by Holgate & Keane can be moved as well, even better!) and Thelwell can finally be afforded a chance to use the budget properly.

2) Until we have moved into the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, the Modus Operandi for the club should be staying in the Premier League and watching the youngsters grow and develop (as well as seeing their values appreciate for the eventual sniff around by the whales!)

Care to join the #ThelwellBrigade that I have started? =)

ps: I can live with the mistakes and misses by the young guns (that Patterson miss didn't keep me awake on Saturday night) because of my belief that they can and will improve with game time and experiences (we certainly wouldn't see that left-footed diagonal cross field pass by Onana last season). This is what keeps us from getting depressed!

It is those excruciating déjà vu acts qnd misses by mediocre, over-the-hill, washed-up "veterans" that really pain me. (Yes, Keane's day-dreaming that led to the Fulham goal, the Maupay misses and Doucouré's choice to shoot against Leno instead of passing to a wide-open Garner on his right.)

With those folks, what we see is what we get. Until they have been moved, they are detrimental to our NSNO motto. Fingers crossed that Thelwell continues to bring in improvements over them.

Kieran Kinsella
371 Posted 15/08/2023 at 03:19:00

Lol “Holy Trinity”? Blasphemy mate whether viewed from Evertonian or Christian perspective. More like the unholy trinity.

I have sympathy for Dele and his life challenges so to be clear I'm calling his wage unholy. The other two, Gomes and Gbamin? Holy moly, some respected posters on here tried to polish the turd of Gbamin's dismal few appearances.

Gomes gets slack because of a horrific injury but before that, does everyone forget the snail's pace? The petulant fouls? Lack of goals and assists for a “creative player” given a free pass on basics like running and breaking a sweat? What a sickening waste of money these three contracts have proved to be.

Meanwhile, Southampton understandably don't want to pay Holgate's world class wages. And even one of our outcasts, Tom Davies, missed out on a deal with Cardiff because of his wage demands. Really Tom really? Roughing it on a meager £20 or 30k a week?

Cardiff is a big city. Cardiff is a solid well supported club, at worst Championship, at best a lower Premier League team. Tom should bite their hands off to go there not as a squaddie, youth product freebie but as a wanted player on a very very good but not outrageous wage.

But apparently he's too good for that so he's going to sit in his hands and wait for the big offer for him to come along. Him, Ross, Isco and the rest of the fantasists.

Steve Shave
373 Posted 15/08/2023 at 09:51:07
Good points made above by the likes of Dupont and Sam, I believe that there is actually a plan in place and for once our fool of an owner appears to have learnt some harsh lessons and is allowing his DOF to do his job.

Agree also, that Maupay aside, Thelwell has done good business to date and seems invested in increasing our profit and sustainability. I am not sure if any of us truly understand the difficulty and magnitude of that task he has been faced with. He continues to do business with at least one hand tied behind his back. Credit where it's due.

We have to understand and appreciate where we are as a club, we will have more years of transition with the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock to pay for. Avoidance of relegation must be the aim, mid-table a massive bonus, one that is possible to achieve IMO with the right ingredients in place and essential further recruitment this window.

Assuming that the Harrison loan deal (with a reported zero spend on a loan fee) will now free up any funds we do have for the much-needed striker, this must be our next business. Beto and Ekitike are the dream targets but there are many available and gettable options, we need to get our finger out and I'd like it to be a permanent acquisition.

Other business must come secondary to that, Gnonto or another winger only after the striker is secured and Gray and Holgate gone. I wouldn't be surprised to see Iwobi go to Saudi Arabia either.

The big spanner in the works could be that we hold out for big money for Onana from Man Utd, whilst this would enable us to buy the striker we want, it holds everything up.

Personally, I would find this acceptable if we could recoup minimum £55-60M on this deal and get say someone young, British and hungry like Connor Gallagher as a replacement. If they are circling we should be giving them a strict deadline for their final offer.

Loans are a necessary plug in some holes but also we must think about the future. So permanent signings must be astute, young and meet the profile of our future vision. I'm putting some tentative faith in Thelwell, as long as the morons on the board leave him alone to do it.

Mike Hayes
374 Posted 15/08/2023 at 10:34:08
Sky Sport reporting Maguire move stalled – we play them behind closed doors and they are after Onana. Let's hope the clowns at Everton don't go for him.
Ray Said
375 Posted 15/08/2023 at 10:45:15
Surely Gnonto's actions in downing tools on his current employer calls into questions his character and commitment and would make any reasonable manager or employer hesitate before recruiting him?

I would give a wide swerve to anyone behaving that way.

Rob Halligan
376 Posted 15/08/2023 at 10:52:32
Onana hasn't really set the world alight since joining us but, if we sell him to Man Utd, it has to be a straight cash deal, or someone in part-exchange that we want, not someone they want to get rid of.
Sean Roe
378 Posted 15/08/2023 at 11:22:53
Ray @ 375,

Completely agree, really, really unprofessional. I wouldn't touch the two we have signed on loan either for the same reason.

You only need to look at Harry Kane or our own Idrissa Gueye when he was wanted by PSG to show how to conduct yourself in a professional manner.

Sam Hoare
379 Posted 15/08/2023 at 11:36:15
Ray, I know what you mean but these things can be difficult to judge from the outside.

If Gnonto has been told by his international coach that he needs to be playing above the championship in order to be selected then perhaps that's a good reason to request a move. From his perspective, he may feel that Leeds getting four times what they paid for him is a good deal and them asking for more than that is prohibitively greedy?

I agree that any player refusing to play is a bad look but it may even be that they had a gentleman's agreement Leeds are reneging upon? I think to say no to any player who agitates for the move could severely restrict us but I know exactly what you mean.

Dave Abrahams
380 Posted 15/08/2023 at 11:38:27
I find it encouraging that many fans on here like the way Thelwell is operating, previously with one arm tied behind his back. As some money is freed up, I think we will see better deals being provided by the DoF, I think he will be of great benefit to Everton FC.

I'd like to see him get cash plus a good player for Onana especially if it can be done in this window.

Shaun Laycock
381 Posted 15/08/2023 at 11:54:52
McTominay + cash = Onana
Steve Brown
382 Posted 15/08/2023 at 12:05:17
Don’t we want a midfielder with a different profile to the current players in the squad?
Denis Richardson
383 Posted 15/08/2023 at 12:06:25
Was casually reviewing Brighton transfers yesterday. What they've manage to sign and sell on in the last 3-4 years, whilst still playing decent football with a decent side, is nothing short of amazing.

They sign decent young players for relatively little money (Caicedo cost them £4M) and then sell them for a huge profit. They've made about £250M in player transfer profits over the last couple of seasons (White, Cucurella, Mac Allister to name a few more). Current squad: Ferguson they got for buttons at age 16, Mitoma cost them £3M, both look quality already.

Everton on the other hand… just what exactly did our scouting system do last few years? Why were (are) we not able to buy raw talent for around £5M a pop, develop for a year or two before selling (if we want to)? We keep buying established players well into their careers and paying large fees and wages.

Whilst I think Harrison is a decent player, I hope he plays well this season but we don't spend £20M odd on him next summer, when he'll be approaching 28. After getting to the end of his 3- or 4-year deal he'll no doubt leave on a free. We will still be skint in 12 months time.

If Iwobi won't sign an extension he should be sold this summer. He cost us £27M and will just walk on a free next year, similar to Mina. £Ms in fees never recovered. Add Tosun, Niasse, Townsend, Sigurdsson etc to the list. So many players come to us on massively inflated wages, we then can't get rid and they just sit on their contract until the end. Such poor forward planning. Always seemingly knee-jerk and reactive.

We need to sign more players under 25 to be able to get some transfer fee back later and get the club on a stable footing. Yes, we need to stay up first and foremost but constantly signing players in their late 20s isn't going to be of use down the line.

Harrison on a loan will be great business. I hope we leave it at that unless he's a replacement for Iwobi.

Robert Tressell
385 Posted 15/08/2023 at 12:28:23
Denis # 383,

It is amazing what Brighton have done. Although the situation at Leicester last season shows that these smaller clubs can't sustain it forever. Brighton and Brentford will probably get caught out within the next 5 years – but in the meantime will be giving their fans some tremendous stuff to watch.

We should certainly be able to emulate a lot of the good stuff clubs like Leicester, Brighton and Brentford have done though – and also some of the boring basics Moyes deployed to build up a good squad on the cheap during his reign (largely 22- to 26-year-olds, all just a touch off top class with more than 50 first team games under their belt).

Andrew Clare
386 Posted 15/08/2023 at 12:44:13
If we let Onana go and get someone like Maguire, I will be very disappointed

Onana is on the way up and Maguire is on the way down.

Barry Hesketh
387 Posted 15/08/2023 at 12:49:50
The Premier League have introduced a new rule following Everton’s Financial Fair Play charges last season which compels clubs with a recent history of overspending to submit their accounts three months before the rest of the top flight.

Under Rule E.48 clubs who are forecasting losses must file audited accounts to the Premier League by December 31 rather than the standard March 31 deadline.

The new regulation is an attempt by the Premier League to ensure that any disciplinary cases arising from alleged breaches of FFP rules are dealt with before the end of the same season.

The new accounting rules will only apply to clubs who have an aggregated loss on their Adjusted Earnings for the previous two years, which based on recent results could include Everton, Chelsea and Wolves. Source: Daily Mail

I'm all for good governance but having different dates for different clubs to submit their accounts, sounds a little crazy to me, why can't all clubs submit their accounts by the end of December, and what effect will having your accounts waiting approval by the Premier League, have on the January window for those clubs put on special measures?

Also, given this new rule, will that delay any investment in the club until at least January 2024?

Denis Richardson
388 Posted 15/08/2023 at 12:57:46
Robert, agree to an extent albeit ‘on paper' what happened to Leics last year shouldn't have happened. They let some key players go but did spend money. In the end their defence was just not good enough and changing manager was not a good idea in hindsight. They had ample opportunity to save themselves right up to the end. That squad should never have been near the drop zone and I imagine there must have been something going on behind the scenes to cause the team to play so far below par.

Re Brighton and Brentford, odds on them being in the Premier League in 5 years time I imagine are probably much better than for Everton. Thing with Brighton is they keep unearthing gems but are careful not to sell too many soon (or at least have been so far). Their current squad still looks strong despite the sales this summer.

Brentford I'm still on the fence about and will see how they get on without Toney for an extended period. Different model to Brighton imo but are also well run.

We will see what the Everton squad looks like end of the month but I hope we become more ruthless with players approaching the end of their contracts. If they don't want to extend, just sell and move on. Most of our midfield can walk on a free in 12 months time. Surely someone at the club has this on the radar….

Christine Foster
389 Posted 15/08/2023 at 13:31:41
Barry, the Premier League are retrospectively changing the rules to penalise clubs in the same season without the ability to counter any subsequent alleged breech with an appeal.

We have been submitted to an independent commission for one alleged breach which is, in the club's words, strongly and robustly denied. It's taken 6 months already, plus another couple before it's heard, never mind any appeal, yet we are suddenly made aware that all accounts for only those who may be under scrutiny, fairly or unjustly, will be tried and convicted without an appeal process within 4 months (end of season). When will Man City and their 115 breaches be concluded then?

This is a vindictive farce designed to victimize certain clubs, but specifically not any club in Europe.

Level playing field? No, the Premier League covering their backside against possible threats of being sued.

Tony Everan
390 Posted 15/08/2023 at 13:50:40
Tottenham now join race to sign Gnonto, who’d a thought it? They’ve got the money to tempt Leeds, but hopefully Gnonto still wants the Everton move as was rumoured.
Barry Hesketh
391 Posted 15/08/2023 at 14:12:47
Tony @390
If the kid wants to play Premier League football, as opposed to joining a club he likes, he will opt for the bright lights of London. To be frank, this saga is playing out in the usual Everton way, it's more important to get a goalscorer in, rather than waste any more time, haggling and bargaining with Leeds over a player who may prove to be another Lookman, although that's me being a tad harsh on the lad.
Dale Self
393 Posted 15/08/2023 at 14:36:29
I think Gnonto is priced for risk and a short stay at Everton. We would take him but only on terms that fit our situation. He isn’t our preferred type of frontman but would be a good investment and would not miss sitters. Thelwell is playing hardball with a decent hand here. May not get the player but won’t get screwed for the signature.
John Chambers
394 Posted 15/08/2023 at 14:49:52

I don't think this is specifically targeted at us. I agree that we may well have been the catalyst but, as the article states ourselves, Wolves and Chelsea will have to comply this year.

Also it is not retrospective, it would only apply to our accounts for the year 2022-23, and any subsequent years we fall into the scope. We are being investigated because we possibly failed the Profitability and Sustainably rules at the end of the 2021-22 year.

It also doesn't state we can't appeal, but I guess it would mean there would have to be a very short period to resolve issues, presumably around 31 May?

One thing I do question is the focus on us suffering a points penalty. Chelsea have received a financial penalty admitting they deliberately broke the rules on multiple occasions and concealed this fact, it only came to light as a result of the takeover.

Man City have allegedly broken the rules 115 times and also hid this from the authorities. From my understanding, our potential breach is a “technicality” over the financial treatment of taxation allowances on the new stadium. This information must have been clearly stated in the accounts, this is how it has been highlighted.

Surely a differing interpretation of the allowance with all information publicly visible is more likely to warrant a financial rather than sporting (points reduction) penalty if that is the way fraud is penalised.

Charles Brewer
395 Posted 15/08/2023 at 14:55:11
Tony, [390],

"Gnonto still wants the Everton move as was rumoured".

Look, if I were a dyed-in-the-wool, third-generation Everton supporter (which I am) and half-decent footballer, I wouldn't want to go anywhere near Everton under any circumstances and pretty much whatever they offered to pay me.

This club reeks of corruption, stupidity, imminent collapse and has the smell of the charnel house around it.

The only way I'd join Everton is for a huge signing-on fee and if I had received a diagnosis that at least one of my legs was going to be amputated in the next couple of weeks.

Dale Self
396 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:02:13
That second paragraph tells us much about your perspective Charles. Thanks for letting that be known.
Kieran Kinsella
397 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:07:34
Barry @391,

I have reservations too. At this point, he is largely potential. When you consider Leeds were relegated, it is weird how so many of their players are supposedly great that everyone is chasing them.

I don't like the fact he is going on strike. That is not a good thing. We have had whingers in the past and it never ends well. Moreover, Leeds don't want to sell him so why are we running down the clock, hoping somehow we find a buyer for Gray, Holgate, Gomes and stick it to United over a fee for Onana – all of which a) is unlikely to happen, or b) if it does, it will be 1 minute to midnight.

Paul Hewitt
398 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:17:13
If Spurs really want Gnonto, they will have him signed in a few days. Not dilly dally about for weeks.
Stephen Vincent
399 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:24:19
Christine, #389, Comparing Everton's situation to Man City's just can't be done.

We are charged with one simple breach of regulations in that we exceeded the aggregate allowed losses by a considerable margin. Our guilt or otherwise will boil down to an interpretation of the write-offs in our accounts and given that our auditors, BDO, quit and we had difficulty in appointing a successor, we should not share the club's confidence in defeating these charges.

Man City on the other hand are charged with 115 breaches covering a longer period of time. Those charges cover a variety of breaches from the allocation of profits from City's parent company (they are one of 13 clubs covered by The City Group), to their valuation of and source of sponsorship deals.

Last time out, Man City had David Lord Pannick as their lead counsel backed by International lawyers Freshfields, their group CEO ran Barcelona FC. We have, no disrespect to either, Katie Charles, who worked for Manchester lawyers Browne Jacobsen, and Colin Chong. I have no idea who our current lawyers are.

The point is that Man City's situation and their ability to defend it is on a different level to ours and has little to do with bias at the Premier League.

Kieran Kinsella
400 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:24:47

I had to Google "charnel house." Cracked me up on reading the explanation. The club as a whole under Kenwright certainly has that feel.

I think the last 12 months Finch Farm has made some efforts to clear out the old bones, eg, Besic, Bolasie, Davies. We still have substantial remains to be cleared though with what Dupont called the "Holy Trinity," for starters.

David West
401 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:28:53
These big clubs are letting teams like Everton do the graft of negotiating the price down. Then step in when they know the fee.

If it was Spurs who came in for Gnonto weeks ago, they surely would have been quoted more with their budget. Levy again one step ahead if he can steal Gnonto from us.

Mike Gaynes
402 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:30:03
Do people even check a player's record before asking if he's "injury-prone"? The information is readily available on Transfermarkt.

This is Harrison's first significant injury since 2016, when he was a teenager in MLS with New York City. Since then he has played well over 200 games. He has missed two with injury. Two.

Well, three counting Saturday.

Paul Tran
403 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:31:35
Charles #395, 'the smell of the Charnel House'. Best thing I've seen on here in years!
Alan J Thompson
404 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:33:31
Somebody posted above that one likely outcome of this independent commission if rules have been breached could be a transfer ban in the next two windows, which set me wondering what it covers.

Obviously players whose contracts expire must still be a free agent but can a new contract be negotiated with the player before expiration?

And how does this affect loan deals? Must we return the loaned player to their "parent" club at the end of the loan term? And if there is a clause with an option to buy, will that be honoured or would that be barred under the ban? And would there be any legal repercussions? No matter what Premier League rules say, they cannot void already agreed contracts.

Similarly, if clubs going into debt have to submit their accounts earlier than others, wouldn't this require a meeting and vote of all clubs or has this happened already?

Doesn't seem as simple as not being able to sign new players.

Alex Gray
405 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:51:59
On another note, lads, with Chelsea buying Caicedo, Lavia and now Olise, I believe their spending over the last 12 months is now over £1B. I know they're all spread out over 100-year contracts but how on earth have they been allowed to do this?? FFP is simply here to punish smaller clubs.
Charles Brewer
406 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:52:22
Dale, we have been running on oligarch's money for around 7 years, and it disappeared when Vlad the Mad decided to send his drunks over the border.

Everton has bought a succession of the worst players in the Premier League – all on huge wages for astronomical fees. The only really good purchase in recent times was Richarlison, so he was sold for a knockdown price as soon as it was feasible.

As Paul the Esk (get well Paul!) has repeatedly demonstrated, this club is in deep financial trouble – in a league where bloody Newcastle United managed to get a huge investment – and even if points aren't knocked off for "financial mismanagement", the club may simply implode financially – assuming they still have 11 players on the books.

The club really does have the odour of death around it. Or is that just our beloved chairman's personal scent?

Paul Tran
407 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:53:55
David, I'm sure if Spurs came in for any player at the moment, the seller's first thought would be the £100M in their back pocket. I'm not convinced that'll bring the price down.
Dale Self
408 Posted 15/08/2023 at 15:58:21
Charles, that’s old news man. We’re turning this thing around whether journos or historians like it or not. Get on board when you can, we’re not leaving without you.
Raymond Fox
409 Posted 15/08/2023 at 16:02:15
You cant credit Thelwell with signing Tarkowski or McNeil – they will be down to Dyche.

With regard to Brighton and Brentford, they have operated very well in the player market, there's no doubt about that, but how long can they keep that up?

They are and will go the way of all smaller clubs because your usual suspects come along and hoover up your best players.

I think the best result for the Premier League as a competition would be if the aforementioned bigger clubs – for want of a better description – buggered off and formed their own Super League that they obviously want to do because, as the Premier League is, it's not a competitive competition.

Joe McMahon
410 Posted 15/08/2023 at 16:06:27
I remember when Spurs sacked Nuno Espirito Santo and got Jose in minutes after he was sacked. Everton chased that twat Koeman for months offering millions.

'Everton', 'professionalism' and 'swiftly' are 3 words not known. The People's Club, eh!

Craig Harrison
411 Posted 15/08/2023 at 16:09:47

Tarkowski and McNeil had signed long before Dyche was in the frame for the job. If Dyche was in the picture, it would not have taken a week to replace Lampard.

With the amount of £ Brighton have brought in, they will be fine for a long time. ,

The Premier League is arguably the most competitive league in Europe at the moment.

Charles Brewer
412 Posted 15/08/2023 at 16:26:05
Dale, I would fervently love to see that.

My personal dream would be an Omani billionaire (Oman's one of my favourite places) buy Moshiri out and give Kenwright an almighty Order of the Boot. He could then export half the players (the poisonous half) to train at Nizwa and have them running up and down sand dunes until their contracts run out.

Finch Farm would be ceremoniously burned to the ground and the ashes sown with salt, like Carthage by Scipio Aemilianus and the place ritually cursed. (As you might gather,I'm not too impressed with Everton's training or development regimes.)

At the new stadium, before every home match, Kenwright could be burned in effigy and an exorcism of the spirits of Benitez, Allardyce and Alli could be carried out.

It would beat the hell (literally!) out of the crappy half-time shows at the SuperBowl.

Ian Jones
413 Posted 15/08/2023 at 16:31:44
Charles, bit harsh on Alli!
Dan Nulty
414 Posted 15/08/2023 at 16:34:21
Charles, I love Oman too, my parents lived there about 20 years ago for a few years. Great place to visit.

Not too many billionaires though, unlike the other Emirates. Not sure the Sultan would be interested!

Dale Self
415 Posted 15/08/2023 at 16:43:54
Charles, a bit over the top but fuck it, I think that is how it is how we like it here sometimes. You've done hard time with the ugly upstairs people and have every right to complain. I'm claiming a new era and I think there is enough done that even if you don't believe it, you know I'm not bullshitting you.
Charles Brewer
416 Posted 15/08/2023 at 16:51:00
So there's no dispute on the ritual bonfire of Kenwright's effigy before every home game at the new stadium? I'll take that as a "Yes".

Dan, I spent best part of 2 years out there (and driving back and forth to Abu Dhabi through the desert - marvellous!). I loved the place.

The funny thing is that the Omani brand of Islam is very strict and formal, but the Omanis themselves are extremely tolerant of what other people get up to (within the sensible limits of respect anyone should show for someone else's country).

I found them uniformly charming (as did my daughter who came out to help me with business), professional and great to work with. (It beat the crap out of Qatar, which is a dump full of horrible stupid and arrogant – for no reason whatsoever – people).

Dale Self
417 Posted 15/08/2023 at 17:16:08
Agreed on the bonfire and thank you for the Oman comments. I’ve got some work to do in that area and that truly helped.
Raymond Fox
418 Posted 15/08/2023 at 19:44:25
Craig 411, Dyche might have not been at the club when they were signed but Dyche was probably penciled in for the Everton job behind the scenes before Lampard was sacked.

Depends what you mean 'for a long time'. I doubt they will still be in the Premier League in 7 years, maybe less than that, we shall see. They are riding the crest of the wave at moment and are everyone darlings just now but probably won't sustain it; same applies to Brentford.

How's it a competitive league when you can name who's going to win the league or name the top 5 or 6 now? There are 13 or 14 clubs with no chance of glory every season – that's not a proper competition.

Mike Gaynes
419 Posted 15/08/2023 at 20:55:12
Raymond, that's simply speculation and likely not true, given the time lag. If Dyche was penciled in they'd have hired him immediately. There is no way he can be credited with those two key signings.
Barry Rathbone
420 Posted 15/08/2023 at 21:14:51
Ray 418

That's how I see it with Brighton as the much lauded Pompey of the Harry Redknapp era.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them sink in a similar fashion

David West
421 Posted 15/08/2023 at 21:28:32
Paul 407. Spurs will know the price now. Leeds have negotiated with us knowing our finances, they couldn't bump the price up on us, as they know we are not flush with cash like spurs.
If they try now to bump up the price, Spurs know what he was on offer to us for. I'm surprised more teams are not being linked to be fair.
Might of been a lot of effort to get what is obviously a very good talent, with bags of potential that was always going to look for better offers. Didn't seem convinced by us did he ?
Jack Convery
422 Posted 15/08/2023 at 21:31:19
Everton must be considering the squad and their contract situations - mustn't they ? If we receive a transfer ban of any sort come October we would be in real trouble, unless of course you think we already are !

Everton have 12 players who are out of contract next summer, including Harrison and Danjuma, both of whom have no loan to buy clauses. The others are Lonergan, Young, Coleman, Gueye, Doucoure, Gbamin, Dele, Gomes, Iwobi and Gray.

Of those who will still be under contract, 8 will be entering their final 12 months. Keane, Maupay, DCL, Virginia, Holgate, Godfrey, Branthwaite and Cannon.

This leaves us with 8 players, Onana, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Pickford, Garner, Patterson, McNeill and Chermiti.

Rumours in the media concerning Gray, Onana and Holgate persist, about them possibly leaving this summer. So we could be left with just 13 players currently with us under contract come July 2024. Obviously, we will likely make at least one more permanent signing, before this window closes.

Still, it's very worrying how a transfer ban could really undermine us, going forward.

The hearing in October about our financial dealings is one we really cannot afford to lose or at the least we must avoid a crippling punishment such as a transfer ban and a points deduction.

Moshiri and Kenwright you really have an awful lot to answer for, so please go asap. This cannot go on anymore.

Dale Self
423 Posted 15/08/2023 at 21:32:02
I could see a Brighton-will the future suck or will they need sunglasses discussion getting some considerable action. The Pompey reference is good in many ways but I don’t remember them as talent suppliers like Brighton. To the extent they can find talent at a rate that never leaves them short at the squad level I think they continue their way. All they need is a good supply of creative managers who will work well with youth and who want a shot at the Premier League.
Ben King
425 Posted 15/08/2023 at 21:52:51
Raymond #409 & 418

Sorry, just to check: are you suggesting that Everton were signing players last summer, whilst managed by Lampard, under the direction of Sean Dyche???

Are you saying that Everton had already planned to sack Lampard and his expensively assembled back room team despite being mired in financial difficulties during last summer??

And rather than actually go ahead and sack Lampard they kept him on for waaaay longer than he should have been kept on for even though they had some agreement in place with Sean Dyche?

And that convoluted theory is why Everton signed Tarks & McNeill and thus Thelwell deserves no credit for those deals because Dyche was some kind of silent, mysterious mastermind in the shadows managing the recruitment of the club?

Sweet bejesus, I’ve read some nonsense on here before but sometimes it goes even further levels!!!

So let’s blame Dyche for Maupay too then? But praise him for Garner. This is a weird weird conspiracy theory fella!!!

Steve Cotton
426 Posted 16/08/2023 at 17:10:22
Did Harrison actually have a medical with us? If he did and we thought he would be out for 3 weeks but his villa medical suggested minimum 6 weeks. Now it appears his actual prognosis is 6 to 8 weeks..
How come there are no pics of him in the club shirt??
Did the Americans actually land on the moon in 69??

All intriguing questions

Rob Halligan
427 Posted 16/08/2023 at 17:23:30
Steve # 426………..it’s my guess that the club are with holding any interviews, pictures and videos with Jack Harrison because of the tragic incident at BMD, which occurred on the same day as Harrison signed. A small sign of respect by the club, I imagine.

FFS…….I’ve just looked at the official website, and all pictures, etc, are now on there.

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