Coleman won't be ready to return before October

23/08/2023 44comments  |  Jump to last

Seamus Coleman's recovery from a serious knee injury is now expected to take another couple of months, with the Everton captain not returning to the side before October.

Coleman had to undergo knee surgery after he sustained the injury in the 2-2 draw at Leicester City last May, forcing him to miss the last four matches of Everton's relegation battle.  It was expected that he would be fit for the new season but his recovery has extended over the entire pre-season, meaning he will now miss at least 10 matches of the new season. 

While the player expressed relief that the injury wasn't a lot worse, it has proved to be bad enough in terms of its impact on the player and on Sean Dyche's injury-ravaged squad as they battle to improve on a dreadful start to the new season.

“It's feeling good and a lot better than I would have imagined coming off the pitch that night, to be completely honest with you.

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“In terms of a comeback time to play, we're taking it week by week at the minute. With the way knee injuries are, and I've never had one before, they always react in different ways, but thankfully for me it's well on schedule to being back and I'd like to think in the next couple of months, definitely I will be back.

“I'd say I will miss the next international meet-up but shouldn't be too long after that and then I have a long season after that to look forward to because I feared the worst that night.”

Coleman will also miss Ireland’s Euro 2024 qualifiers next month, away to France and then at home to the Netherlands.


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Dennis Stevens
1 Posted 23/08/2023 at 13:06:58
It'll be like a new signing!
Andy Meighan
2 Posted 23/08/2023 at 13:14:00
The man the legend.
Mike Doyle
3 Posted 23/08/2023 at 13:21:55
Says "another couple of months"… the official club euphemism for "after Christmas".
Mick Roberts
4 Posted 23/08/2023 at 13:32:22
A lot of fans on this site were shouting "too old… should retire" yet he is still a massive upgrade from what we have.
Mark Taylor
5 Posted 23/08/2023 at 13:38:58
Be back roughly when DCL will be, by the look of it.

Did Dyche run over a black cat?

Ray Smith
6 Posted 23/08/2023 at 13:43:44
Well there you go, injury curse strikes again!
We are either cursed or fated, or both.
What’s the next saga going to be?
Bill Fairfield
7 Posted 23/08/2023 at 14:09:22
The lad was considered by lots on these pages to be finished 3 years ago. He’s the best player at the club. Which just goes to show how pathetically run this club has been for years.
Joe McMahon
8 Posted 23/08/2023 at 14:22:34
I know I'm getting desperate for any kind of positive news but does anyone know the latest with MSP? I just want the embarrassing fraud gone.
Nick Page
9 Posted 23/08/2023 at 14:26:49
But Bill, he gets us
Shane Corcoran
10 Posted 23/08/2023 at 14:39:52
Coleman, Iwobi and Calvert-Lewin injured is it? That's one hell of a curse.
Brian Doran
11 Posted 23/08/2023 at 15:42:34
Has anyone any idea on return dates on the rest of the injured group?

Dele Alli?

Adams transfer dragging out as usual. I just don't get it. We haven't really spent since Ancelotti left. Barring Wolves, everyone else is spending.

I understand we still have 3/4 big earners we need to get off the books but what is the worst that can happen if we breach P&S Rules. A fine or possible points reduction which has never happened before and you would think easily appealed considering what Man City and Chelsea have done over last 10 to 20 years.

The sad thing is, the only hope for us this season is that there are 3 worse teams than us. The Villa performance was up there with the worst of what we have seen in the last 2 years – and that is saying something.

Dale Self
12 Posted 23/08/2023 at 16:23:58
Since I’m always on the happy clapper side of things I just want to offer some sincere appreciation for the toned down tirades. I know it’s shit, we all do. One positive take I will offer, and yes I hear the groans, the club was aggressive in positioning for undeniably high quality talent. It was a gamble that needed to be taken.

The Gnonto situation was gnarly. We were the choice of the player yet internal and unpredictable circumstances prevented it. While we are left with nothing but a gentleman gambler’s pride we gave it a proper go without selling Onana and not immediately going Wout One.

Kim Vivian
13 Posted 23/08/2023 at 16:38:24

The real sad thing though is, on the forums of those other teams, they will be saying:

"The only hope for us this season is that there are two other teams in addition to Everton that are worse than us!"

Christy Ring
14 Posted 23/08/2023 at 16:40:21
The sooner he's back the better. Sadly Patterson can't defend.

Can someone tell me what the fuck is going on with incomings? We're in the same position for the last month, supposed to be signing a striker, still at square one, the same crap with Gnonto, pissing around for nothing.

Sheffield United have just agreed a fee of £18M with Villa for Archer, they've made a decision in one day, that's how you do business.

You do know Calvert-Lewin is injured? We're a total shambles, linked with loads, buy no one.

Joe McMahon
15 Posted 23/08/2023 at 16:44:58
Correct Kim, we give other teams a 4 game start, due to transfers not happening, the another 6 with Liverpool and Manchester teams. Add Arsenal, Spurs, Villa et al we have approx 18 matches to stay up.

Not gonna happen with no strikers and Michael Keane.

Pat Kelly
16 Posted 23/08/2023 at 16:54:45
What's another year?
Tony Everan
17 Posted 23/08/2023 at 16:57:12
Desperately need to see Nathan Patterson step it up a level. £12m rising to £16 million is a big investment and he’s contracted until 2027. He was bought for the future but the future is now, he’s been at the club for 20 months and is 22 in October so not a kid anymore.

It’s concerning that we are desperate to get Coleman back, when he should now be second choice. I haven’t given up on Patterson, but he needs to improve his defensive game quickly.

Mykolenko is similar £12m and can’t get in ahead of Ashley Young at 38. That potentially £28m on full backs who are not currently making the first team when Seamus returns. Patterson may even be dropped before that, they must be discussing it.

Brian Doran
18 Posted 23/08/2023 at 16:57:55
Kim, you are spot on. Most teams see us as a banker for 3 points and he is still here negotiating transfers.
Neil Lawson
19 Posted 23/08/2023 at 16:58:09
Christy. Spot on. Many of us can remember the happy days when the first we ever knew about a new signing was when his photo appeared holding aloft our scarf. Now it is a ridiculous circus.
Also, in those days, players signed because they wanted to play for Everton. T&C were not that important. Now, nobody really wants to sign unless they get a long contract on stupid money ( knowing they don't deserve it).
Colin Glassar
20 Posted 23/08/2023 at 17:07:56
He’s the Bionic Man is our Seamus. He’d put Steve Austin to shame with his strength and willpower. Get well soon.
Tony Everan
21 Posted 23/08/2023 at 17:10:38
Correction @17 …Mykolenko fee reported at the time as £20m, BBC said up to £17m including add ons.
Pete Neilson
22 Posted 23/08/2023 at 17:25:02
Looking forward to his return. He has more heart than the rest of the squad combined.

When he hangs up his boots I doubt that Seamus is the sort of gent to write a warts and all account of the decline of our club but it'd make fascinating reading.

David Bromwell
23 Posted 23/08/2023 at 17:58:23
This is yet more bad news. As things stand, Seamus would walk into our team which says a lot about the present first eleven.

I cannot remember a period when we have had so much bad news concerning the Club, and I fear this will affect team spirit and morale. It's certainly affecting me, maybe things will change soon???

John Raftery
24 Posted 23/08/2023 at 18:02:48
The return of Seamus cannot come quickly enough.

In the meantime, I would try Young at right-back with Mykolenko at left-back.

Andrew Flanagan
25 Posted 23/08/2023 at 18:41:41
The fact that we are desperate for him to come back shows how dreadful and desperate the team really is. Other clubs would have phased him out 2 years ago never mind now.

The club is a disgrace from top to bottom and if you don't see that, you are part of the problem.

Keith Harrison
26 Posted 23/08/2023 at 18:45:11
Seamus coming back won't save us. Not his fault, but he's too long in the tooth to be a saviour, even though he's better than the rest of the current back four.

Why won't the Ginger one give Branthwaite a start? Because he doesn't trust youth, and would rather rely on far worse players who he knows. Not Michael Keane's fault, but bearing in mind he (Keane) was hawked round clubs only a month ago by Everton, he's obviously not highly rated by the management either.

If Dyche starts Keane this week, and does not give Branthwaite any minutes, regardless of the result, don't be surprised to see him off back to PSV – who have purportedly bid for him today – or even Man Utd who are also sniffing around.

A lad who was ripping up trees in Holland last season – and in their European adventures – and has played exceptionally in his 'friendly' appearances so far, does not need splinters in his arse when the team are crying out for him.

The Everton shit-show continues apace but, unless things alter drastically in the next 2 weeks, our annual last week of the season relegation avoidance celebration won't even get past March when we finally plummet the depths.

And for anyone thinking this could be a fresh reset, look at the bones of Leeds, Leicester and Southampton being picked over already before August is out. Mind you, who will be racing in for most of our presently turgid group?

Ian Bennett
27 Posted 23/08/2023 at 19:00:39
Our transfer dealings look totally shot.

We clearly have no money,

It sounds like the club still has factions wanting to do their own deals - no doubt, bill, moshiri, thelwell, dyche each wanting different things.

Are clearly still on the naughty step for profit & sustainability - under their special measures despite sales,

Are clearly on for a long painful season.

Are clearly not an attractive proposition to 'good players'.

All that's really left is for Dyche to get sacked, so that he's had his bonus for keeping us up, and a payoff for the remainder if his contract.

Rinse and repeat.

Robert Tressell
28 Posted 23/08/2023 at 19:16:55
Lots of understandable negativity - but there is a week or so yet to go of the window and lots of players yet to move. I expect to get 2 or maybe 3 new players in (one being a fairly dull replacement for Begovic). It really wouldn't surprise me to see Maguire on loan with Piroe for about £15m and Cannon going to Swansea on loan.

Howevee, we are skint so it's hard to seal deals on our crap terms of low initial payments. Selling clubs are hoping for better offers but will start to cave in.

On Branthwaite, I've considered him our most talented defender for a few years and I've been disappointed he's been held back while the likes of Holgate have gotten games. I wouldn't read too much into the fact he's not starting now though.

It may just be a sensible precaution to protect him with Patterson very immature (and now being given grief), Young not being a natural full back, Tarkowski being a poor organiser and Gueye being a hopelessly defensive screen.

The first sign of a mistake from Branthwaite and fans would be bemoaning Dyche for throwing him into the fray too soon.

Judge the squad at the end of the window. And hopefully Branthwaite will play an increasingly prominent role as the season unfolds.

Paul Smith
29 Posted 23/08/2023 at 19:30:09
More good news - TheAthletic saying MSP deal is dead. Everton’s existing deals are the problem.
Keith Harrison
30 Posted 23/08/2023 at 19:31:46
You are right about Gana, Robert. He offers f all, and was pretty bad last season. I'd rather play young Garner there - no pun intended, but unless Jarrad gets games now he will be off..
Ian Bennett
31 Posted 23/08/2023 at 19:35:45
I think fans would be patient on Branthwaite. They would cut him slack.

They won't be giving a 29 year old, who has stunk for 175 games, cost £30m and is earning £75k a week plus any more slack. Michael Keane was involved in 4 errors last Sunday. He's been involved in the team that has seen many a capitulation away from home. Enough is enough.

Christy Ring
32 Posted 23/08/2023 at 19:55:55
Branthwaite has to start against Wolves after Keene’s performance against Villa. Dyche brought Mina in for the run in last season because Keane wasn’t good enough, so how was he going to be any better this season. I’ve given Dyche the benefit of doubt, but playing Garner out of position on the wing, which hasn’t worked, because he doesn’t like Gray a natural winger, and if he starts Keane after that shambles, and leave Branthwaite out again, he’ll be off before the window closes, and the goodwill factor will be gone.
Rob Dolby
33 Posted 23/08/2023 at 20:37:25
Keith 'The ginger one' sees the players in training every day. Keane undoubtedly is the fans whipping boy. We have played 2 games this season and I don't think Keane has been directly at fault for any of the goals shipped.

A good goal by Fulham. 4 calamities at villa where Young was more at fault for 2 of them. Pickford and Patterson for 1 and midfield for the other.

The same Keane that fracture his skull playing for us, the same Keane that played in a boot 2 sizes too big as he had a severe infection in his foot, the same Keane that scored a crucial goal against Palace and screamer against Spurs. He also scored our only goal this season which was wrongly chalked off.

Keane is an honest pro in the Mike Lyons mould. He isn't a world beater but he is better than people make out.

Have you seen enough of Branthwait to say he is ready? Ripping up trees? Did he play every game last season in the Dutch league?

The last time I watched him play for us he got the wrong side of a striker and got a red card in a crucial game.

By swapping Keane for Branthwait will that enable us to score more goals, midfield to cover runners or maybe provide quality from both fullbacks?

Without Keane in the team who is next in line for the boo boys.

After Sunday only Pickford and Tarks are assured of a shirt. Fingers crossed Keane is dropped so that trees can be ripped up at Goodison park.

Robert Tressell
34 Posted 23/08/2023 at 21:27:35
Indeed, Rob. Swap Branthwaite for Keane and we still get a hiding away at Villa so far as I can see. Dyche's biggest mistake as far as I'm concerned against both Fulham and Villa is to play 5 Central midfielders when he could have been a bit braver and sacrificed the awful Gueye for Dobbin (or risked Gray who they are obviously trying to sell).
Christy Ring
35 Posted 23/08/2023 at 21:28:41
Rob#33 No one is saying Keane didn’t give his all for Everton, he scored some vital goals, but he was dropped for Mina for the last few massive games last season, for a reason, so how was he good enough to start this season, and you can single out Branthwaite, that he made a massive mistake against Brentford, I’d call it lack of experience against a cute pro in Toney, but he’s played a full season in Europe, and European competition since then, but to then say Keane wasn’t directly involved in any of the goals against Villa??
Keith Harrison
36 Posted 23/08/2023 at 21:33:09
I know a hell of a lot more than I can post on here, but don't take my word for it, see the Echo reports, and the fans who had watched the friendlies. Of course Jarrad (it's Branthwaite by the way), did not play every game, he was barely 20 starting in a new country. Not sure where you read I had written we needn't get Che Adams et al because Jarrad should be in as he will solve all our problems, stop global warming, tell Orcas to stop attacking boats, and get Gana to pass straight - to one of our shirts - but I'll read back in case I did.

Keane is an honest pro, but with the turning circle of the Ark Royal, the pace of Douglas Bader, and the spatial awareness of Blind Pugh. He is not what we need right now.

Graham Hammond
37 Posted 23/08/2023 at 21:46:33
It is never gonna work with both Keane and Tarkowski playing together at the back, no pace in either of them. You reap what you sow, it was idiotic (again!) of the club to not keep Yerry Mina. He kept us up, without him in those last four games we were down without question.

Pay almost £30M for a player, then essentially release him by not offering him new terms, utter stupidity once again in my opinion.

Keane was never the answer and certainly not with James Tarkowski! He did fine with Kurt Zouma though, ie, a lad with more pace.

Dyche has the next two league games now to save his job as far as I am concerned and, if he fails to win both, then he has to go.

That performance at Villa was a fucking disgrace, abysmal movement once again, and it was on Sean Dyche despite the many difficulties faced.

Ed Prytherch
38 Posted 23/08/2023 at 21:54:24
Mina would have been injured in preseason if we had given him a new contract which would have cost 100k/week. I blame the club management for a lot of things but letting Yerry go is not one of them.
Christy Ring
39 Posted 23/08/2023 at 22:29:44
Ed#38 Agree, he played well in his last few games, but you can’t forget his injury record and the money he earned for a handful of games, and not being cynical, but he knew he was playing for a new contract, and couldn’t afford to get injured, coincidental?
Eric Myles
40 Posted 24/08/2023 at 02:18:41
Good news for us (sorry Seamus) that he won't be fit for the internationals, just our luck that he would get injured and be unavailable for us for the rest of the season. Who was that other player we had that was always called up to play for Ireland and came back injured?
Rob Dolby
41 Posted 24/08/2023 at 08:44:59
Keith 36. Don't think I mentioned Che Adams in my post about Keane.
I don't read the echo or listen to radio phone ins. Are you saving the 'hell of a lot ' more for a rainy day.

We all have our opinions and to a certain extent our favourite and non favourite players. I just think the agenda against Keane is laughable when we all know the real problem is at the other end of the pitch.

Put a 25 year old Baresi or Maldini in our back 4 and we still wouldn't score goals.

Christy 35. Keane got dropped last season as Mina was fit and is a better footballer. We couldn't afford to keep Mina so off he went. We also decided against buying Coady so that leaves 2 senior centre Half's, 2 middle weight boxers masquerading as defenders in Godfrey and holdgate. A young lad just back from a good loan out in Holland.

Maybe it is time to give Branthwait a run in the team but don't put too much expectation on the young lads shoulders.

Shane Corcoran
42 Posted 24/08/2023 at 09:21:51
Rob, I think it’s fair to say that Keane was at fault for Villa’s third goal.
Rob Dolby
43 Posted 24/08/2023 at 09:39:50
Shane 42, if you blame him for the 3rd you can make a case for blaming him for all goals after all he is a defender.

He may have been the closest to challenging for the ball but that doesn't mean he is at fault for it.

An assist from a throw in is bad enough. A midfield runner is unopposed running towards the box gathers the ball and knocks it passed Keane and scores. Where was the midfield?

Is Keane at fault or not tracking a midfield runner who is 70/30 fav to win the ball ahead of him?

For the first Young and Iwobi should do better at blocking the cross, nobody tracks the midfield runner and mcginn has a tap in. Keane was blamed for that by someone on here!

The 2nd Digne in acres gets yet another cross in, in a scramble Pickford arguably fouls their striker and pen is given. Is that Keane's fault.

The 3rd a throw in assist, winger runs onto the ball knocks it past Keane and scores, where is the midfield cover?

The 4th another assist from a throw in this time it was our own throw in! Similar scenario Keane closest to the ball but striker is fav to win the ball and knocks it past him and scores.

I am not totally exonerating him but a bit of perspective is needed.
It's like blaming a goalie for every goal conceded.

Keith Harrison
44 Posted 26/08/2023 at 17:17:16
I rest my case regarding Jarrad today.

Get a proper centre-forward in now, hopefully Beto; get Gueye out of that midfield, and we can start building.

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