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Mason Holgate has made a loan move to Southampton after agreement was reached on how to fund his weekly wages, said to be around £72k per week.

The defender travelled to the south coast today to undergo a medical which he has successfully completed and his season-long switch to St Mary's will be confirmed today after the Everton and Saints agreed to both pay portions of his salary.

Holgate last played regularly under former Everton boss Frank Lampard and has fallen out of favour after being out injured for 2 months last season. 

He was not involved in either of the Premier League games Everton have played so far this season as the club sought to move him on before the transfer deadline. 

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Mason has had one previous loan spell away from Everton in 2018-19 when he spent the second half of the season with West Bromwich Albion. His current contract with the Blues still has almost 2 years to run and there is no option or obligation to buy built into the loan arrangement for this season. 


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Dave Abrahams
1 Posted 25/08/2023 at 10:02:51
There is news, on another website that Holgate is travelling down to Southampton today for a medical before he joins them for a season on loan with no obligation for Southampton to buy him.

No mention of Ché Adams but maybe if Holgate joins them it's possible there maybe some definite move for him, maybe not!

James Marshall
2 Posted 25/08/2023 at 13:02:39
I've just read that Holgate is having medical at Southampton today and Chairman Bill is unwell.
Tony Abrahams
3 Posted 25/08/2023 at 13:35:28
Chairman Bill has rode many waves, but always succeeded because he played a very clever divide & conquer game. He blew it in the end though and the legacy that awaits him is probably what is making him sick.
Kieran Kinsella
4 Posted 25/08/2023 at 13:38:48
Southampton bank £90 million from selling two players and we are still covering some of his wages….
Joe McMahon
5 Posted 25/08/2023 at 13:44:23
I cannot believe is only a bloody loan. This is lunacy — if they want him, buy him!
Mick O'Malley
6 Posted 25/08/2023 at 13:55:51
No wonder we're in shit street when the likes of Holgate are on £70+ grand a week!!

I hope this isn't a sweetener for Ché Adams to come the other way, hopefully there's some traction in the Beto rumours.

Mark Ryan
7 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:05:16
He doesn't deserve to be on £7,000 per month never mind £70,000 a week.

He earns more in a month than a top brain surgeon does in a year. Fucking ludicrous state of affairs.

Jeff Armstrong
8 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:31:54
Loaning him must be the only way we can get rid, isn't he out of contract next summer? No fee for him at all then.

Probably still paying £20,000 a week to subsidise this move!
Clubs know we are up shit creek without a paddle, even Southampton are taking the piss out of us now.

Dave Abrahams
9 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:36:18
Jeff (8),

I think Holgate still has another year left on his contract when he comes back next summer. I wonder who gave these contracts out, it couldn't have been the street wise, football knowledgeable expert Kenwright surely!

Jeff Armstrong
10 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:40:26
I think he got his existing contract after a rare run of 3 decent games and his agent planted a story about Man City sniffing around…

Next thing is our negotiator extraordinaire is offering a 5-year £70k/week contract out. Agent laughs his cock off.

Kevin Molloy
11 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:42:59
The way things are looking, the 'failure' to bring in a striker at the back end of January was a load of cobblers. We never had any intention of bringing anyone in.

Moshiri could spend if he wanted to, he is choosing not to. The Rusky must have told him 'not one penny more'. That would explain why we've gone back to Philip Green.

Jeff Armstrong
12 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:43:40
Mark 8, it's a pity that brain surgeon doesn't do transplants, Mason would be first in the queue for a football brain!
Steve Brown
13 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:45:08
Season long loan with no option to buy.

Is it beyond the wit of our Director of Football to use Holgate as leverage for Sulemana?

Ian Horan
14 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:50:42
Our negotiator excellent gave Bobby Brown Shoes a new 5 year contract @£2M a year after his first season. When sacked, it cost us £10M. We even allowed him to take the Belgium job for £1M a year whilst still paying him!!

That in a nut shell shows our negotiating skills. What a fucking chairman!!!!!!

Jeff Armstrong
15 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:55:22
If he does go, then that's one less Dyche can't try yet again with the same shit show result (see Michael Keane).
Jay Harris
16 Posted 25/08/2023 at 14:55:34
Straight swap for Adams. Oh hang on… this is Everton – No Adams and a subsidized loan for a player we want off the books. Fantastic negotiating.

I also wonder what is happening to Gbamin, who should have had his contract torn up after saying he would never play for Everton again, and Gomes, who is a drain on our budget.

John Raftery
17 Posted 25/08/2023 at 15:10:23
My reading of the Gbamin situation is the club told his agent “He won’t play for Everton again”. His agent then said to the media “He won’t play for Everton again”.
Robert Tressell
18 Posted 25/08/2023 at 17:31:23
John, I completely agree. It's one of the many myths to gain traction on ToffeeWeb!
Pete Neilson
19 Posted 25/08/2023 at 17:49:03
Ian (14) add Koeman to the list of those who’ve run rings around our high flying execs. We were still paying 90% of his salary while he managed the Netherlands as they unsurprisingly paid him “only” £500K as we paid the shortfall to the £5m a year in his contract with us. Subsequently under van Gaal the salary shot up to £3M as there was no Bank of Everton to fund it.
Kevin Molloy
20 Posted 25/08/2023 at 17:49:29
that decision to let Coady go is looking like an absolute masterstroke. What was the fee, £4m? and now we have Keane in the team with Godfrey and Braithwaite (soon to be sold no doubt) as understudy. he's letting some decent players go here, with Gray half way out the door, what so Garner can go right wing? Fantastic.
Jay Harris
21 Posted 25/08/2023 at 17:50:08
If that is the case it puts a different complexion on things but neither scenario is very helpful at the moment. Its like Demarai Gray getting frozen out at the moment just when we could do with him.

People are criticising Onana but the lad probably doesnt know whether he is coming or going with all the rumours doing the rounds and the club not making clear to him he is part of our plans for the future.

John Pickles
22 Posted 25/08/2023 at 18:10:19
Maybe Southampton will allow Everton to take Adams on a season long loan with no obligation to buy then.

No? Thought not!

James Marshall
23 Posted 25/08/2023 at 18:23:49
Done deal now apparently. Loan with no option to buy and we pay half his digs
Anthony Dove
24 Posted 25/08/2023 at 18:44:31
We really are in one hell of a hole.
Michael Lynch
25 Posted 25/08/2023 at 18:53:08
Bill: "Can we have Ché Adams?"

Southampton: "No but lend us Holgate and pay half his wages."

Bill: "Sounds like a fair compromise."

Rob Dolby
26 Posted 25/08/2023 at 18:53:24
How can a player of Holgate's ability justify £70k a week? Who signed that one off? I am fed up of saying it but what a shambles.

He has been at the club for years and never really nailed a place down.

When does his deal run out?

Even if he is the best player in the Championship, Southampton would never sign him on those wages. I suppose we are saving a couple of million just by letting him go on loan.

No wonder we are in such a mess.

£70k a week, unbelievable.

Ashley Roberts
27 Posted 25/08/2023 at 18:57:16
What about a loan deal for Sulemana?? Much prefer him over Adams.

Why could we not have done some type of swap deal with Sulemana coming our way for Holgate. In fact, maybe a better bet than Gnonto.

Alastair Donaldson
28 Posted 25/08/2023 at 19:03:28
Maybe a £2.5M “saving” this year, I doubt anyone would pay much more than that for him… suspect mentality and poor technique.

But yeah Saints aren't doing us any favours with Adams. I think he is pretty solid, but wish we could do better. Expect it to go into Fergie time.

Kenwright's been outstanding at spending other's money and for too long signings have demanded a premium to join the madhouse.

Seems it's a time for reckoning now…

Denver Daniels
29 Posted 25/08/2023 at 19:06:00
I suppose every little helps as far as saving on the wage bill is concerned. The manager didn't like him so this makes sense. He's no worse than Keane in my opinion.

I don't think Gray is being frozen out, he's on the shelf until his transfer gets sorted. Can't risk him getting injured and scuppering any deal.

Jeff Armstrong
30 Posted 25/08/2023 at 19:19:11
“We’ve kept Bill on to do our transfer negotiations”, (as he has such a great track record over the years)

This from an accountant.

Usmanov looks at his nephew with raised eyebrows.

You had one job lad and you got caught with your pants down!

What a fucking mess this club is.

Mason Holgate sums us up.

Andy Crooks
31 Posted 25/08/2023 at 19:47:32
Mason Holgate earns £70k a week??

I'm not one for ridiculing ordinary lads who work hard and make good. Live the dream on behalf of all of us. But, by fuck, that's a jaw-dropper.

Seriously? No wonder he's a smug fucker.

Jeff Armstrong
32 Posted 25/08/2023 at 19:49:53
Andy 31, “earns”???

That's stretching it.

Gary Brown
33 Posted 25/08/2023 at 20:12:58
Genuine questions for the few shouting that we should have “leveraged” Holgate against Southampton:

1) How many swap deals do we ever actually see?

2) How many other clubs were fighting for us to give him to them?

Last one to defend the club, but realism is realism.

Peter Carpenter
34 Posted 25/08/2023 at 20:13:06
Good luck to him. Hope he does well away from the haters at Goodison who cheer when he gets subbed.
Craig Walker
35 Posted 25/08/2023 at 20:28:22

I wouldn't boo him, personally but he is a poor footballer on £70k a week with not an ounce of intelligence on the field. He doesn't deserve to be lauded. Nowhere near good enough but symptomatic of our decline. He should have gone about 4 seasons ago.

Jack Convery
36 Posted 25/08/2023 at 20:28:36
I am quite convinced that Kenwright was behind the £70k a week contract for Holgate. It was signed March 2020 and runs until June 2025. In August 2020 he did the same for Keane, a 5-year deal until 2025.

Holgate was signed in 2015 and Keane in 2017. Neither in my opinion had done anything to justify those wage rises. Was Kenwright buying loyalty or is my perception wrong? I queried these deals at the time and still can't get my head around those salaries or the offer of 5-year contracts.

Info from Transfer Market.

Andy Crooks
37 Posted 25/08/2023 at 20:31:04
Doubt anyone hates him, Peter. I always thought he had a touch of arrogance about him, which I thought was a good thing in many ways. However, it seems to me that he was just a bit short in the all-round ability to justify it.

I think he will shine at Southampton and go on to back up his demeanour with graft. Good luck to him, we nearly had a real good one.

Peter Carpenter
38 Posted 25/08/2023 at 20:58:06
He's a victim of the Mad Hatter way Everton has been run for the last 7 years. Another talented young player who fails to reach potential. You don't have to be a genius to work out the reason.

As for wages, mentioned endlessly on here, who cares? We don't control that. Read the live forum, some comments on here and at the ground during matches – some fans hate him.

Dale Self
39 Posted 25/08/2023 at 21:05:22
Playing the victim card for Holgate could bring Gaynesy in with a fury, careful there. I will subscribe to the explanation that he was undone by being constantly moved around and usually out of his preferred position. There was also a matter of football IQ at times which complicates that take.
Christy Ring
40 Posted 25/08/2023 at 21:13:57
I always thought Holgate is a good player, scapegoated because he played out of position.

I hope he does well at Southampton.

Peter Carpenter
41 Posted 25/08/2023 at 21:21:24
I'm ready, Dale, under the table, door barricaded. All I will add is that Ancelotti picked him and Man City were rumoured to be interested.

I don't really get the IQ football intelligence thing that keeps coming up. Because he got unluckily sent off a couple of times?

It's depressing to see another player fail after so much input from the club. We are currently destroyers of young talent. No wonder some of them get out while still teenagers.

I read that Fulham might be interested in Moise Kean. Now that would be interesting and possibly painful to watch.

Kieran Kinsella
42 Posted 25/08/2023 at 21:22:32
Holgate – like Browning, Galloway, Pennington and even Garbutt – looked okay when playing sparingly in the team when it was halfway decent and had established and experienced players around, eg, Barry, Coleman, Baines etc.

However, like those others, the more exposure he got, the more the flaws in his game became apparent, and this was exacerbated by the fact crapper players came into the team around him.

Denver Daniels
43 Posted 25/08/2023 at 21:40:36
Football intelligence? Keane and Patterson are hardly Mensa candidates.

I remember Holgate coming on as a sub and being subbed by Frank because one of ours got red carded. His smug expression as he came off the field put me off him after that.

Other than that, he's just a bang-average, overpaid player of which we have plenty.

Mark Ryan
44 Posted 25/08/2023 at 22:37:46
Denver @ 43 spot on.

He is a bang average player who is vastly overpaid. He is an arrogant, ignorant braindead footballer and they are his good points.

He will remain bang average at Southampton and this deal is a belter as far as I'm concerned. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

David McMullen
45 Posted 25/08/2023 at 22:48:36
I don't have a dim view of Holgate. Remember he came through in a group of players and I think Calvert-Lewin is the only one that's been a success really.

Too much change at the club and the laissez-faire attitude at the club that has led to too many players failing. I wish him luck.

Mal van Schaick
46 Posted 25/08/2023 at 22:54:02
It's progress for Everton to get rid of Davies and Holgate, who are Championship players at best. Although we've had a shaky start to the season, if we get some of our next targets in before the window closes, we should be in a better league position.

Beto looks like he's on his way in. Maybe we can get Gnonto over the line and a central defender, loan or otherwise.

Michael Lynch
47 Posted 25/08/2023 at 23:38:21
Mal @46, love your optimism but if we got rid of all our Championship level players we'd have no one available on Saturday.
Justin Doone
48 Posted 25/08/2023 at 23:55:21
Forget about the money side of things for a moment as we all know the club have been clueless since Moyes left.

Holgate is a good to average Premier League defender. The problem is we have many of them. Without a Distin, Jagielka, Gough, Watson to guide them, they repeat the same pattern. Mina, who was flawed and injury-prone, was by far our best defender.

Holgate has several better attributes than Keane, but both similar in many ways. Mistakes, slow to react, can pass a ball but often gets targeted and bullied by opposition forwards.

In Dyche, we have a manager who knows and believes Keane is better or at least a more trustworthy player to play to instruction.

David McMullen
49 Posted 26/08/2023 at 00:06:20
I'd rather have Holgate at the back than Keane.
Mark Taylor
50 Posted 26/08/2023 at 00:27:10
That really is side-splitting, we pay Holgate – Holgate, for fuck's sake – not far short of £4M a year???

No wonder Southampton won't pay his wages. Is teary Bill on a % for all these lunatic deals he signed off?

Dupont Koo
51 Posted 26/08/2023 at 00:45:07
It has reached a stage where even if Southampton is merely covering 10% of Holgate's salary, the pennies saved are good pennies.

Another great example of "Addition via Subtraction".

Steve Brown
54 Posted 26/08/2023 at 03:42:36
It’s pretty standard business practise to use parallel deals between the same commercial parties to leverage options.
Jerome Shields
55 Posted 26/08/2023 at 08:21:29
Holgate seemed to have gotten to the required level prior to his injury, but has not been able to produce anything like the level required since.

His concentration lapses have been a consistent feature of his play when selected. Good luck to him at Southampton.

Justin Doone
57 Posted 26/08/2023 at 09:17:47
Why can't we get more loan-to-buy player's in?

Delay the purchase a year, agree an additional £5 to £10M and get the players in we need to improve the first team now.

I don't want to spend £15M on a young squad player unless we already have a good, reliable team. We don't!

As back-up, get a few Man City and Chelsea 16-year-old rejects into our youth system. From the evidenced of the last 5 years, they are better than many of our own youngsters.

As for wages, good basic salary £30k to £80k but fantastic bonuses based on team performance, games played etc that allow then to realistically double their salary should we finish Top 8 or win silverware for example.

Therefore, Holgate should be on about £40k but based on team and individual performance get s£45k (I'm being kind).

I know current players may reject the above salary approach. But start with younger players and incorporate it for all new players.

How about Lukaku. Basic £80k. 25 goals, 40 games and 15 assists upto £100k? Win a trophy £50k, top 6 £50k. His 'top tier' pay level would be for one of maybe 3 or 4 players but could easily earn £180k plus.

If injured or rubbish, he doesn't play and we minimise the bonuses.

Sean Mitchell
58 Posted 26/08/2023 at 10:55:17
Everton are like the clown in the pub pretending to have big money and sat with the big boys whilst buying rounds after rounds. Eventually, the bank card is declined and everyone is laughing at the clown.

£72,000 a week for a Championship defender? Everton, that.

Iakovos Iasonidis
59 Posted 26/08/2023 at 11:20:33
Sean Mitchell #58,

This is the most accurate metaphor of what Everton is the last 7 years.

P Ron Wells
60 Posted 26/08/2023 at 11:20:41
I am no doubt suffering from memory loss and pessimism, but when did he last put a shift in, if ever?
Denis Richardson
61 Posted 26/08/2023 at 11:38:19
No one wanted to buy him and this seemingly is the best deal we can get because we gave him a massively over-inflated contract, one of many over the years to very average players.

Football is dodgy – that's the only logical reason I can put to some of the very strange contracts given.

He'd have sat on the bench all season costing about £3.5M. Now he's gone and will presumably cost us about £2M instead. So all in all we're ‘up'.

He'll then be back next summer and, with any luck, Southampton will come up and sign him. Otherwise… rinse and repeat.

Neil Carter
62 Posted 26/08/2023 at 11:45:27
Signed as the new Stones, Holgate started with promise and faded. He's a Championship player and good luck to him.

Reading earlier comments about Gbamin and his agent saying he won't play for Everton again – is he training at Finch Farm, injured or in breach of his contract?

Robert Tressell
63 Posted 26/08/2023 at 13:58:53
Good to see another non-productive player moved out.

Hopefully we will see the departure of Alli, Gbamin and Gomes in the next week also (loan or nominal fee / free) in order to reduce the wage bill. Alli's is a complex case however and his injury might mean he's still on our books until January.

David Connor
64 Posted 26/08/2023 at 14:30:43
The lad must have one hell of an agent to be on £70+k a week. He isn't worth half that.

Another player the club will get zero return on when he leaves on a free at the end of his contract. Can't believe how piss poor this club is run. He shouldn't have even been offered a new contract. The lad is nowhere near the footballer he thinks he is.

At least the good news is he looks like he is finished at Everton which has got to be a positive in my eyes. Only around another 10 to go.

Sean Mitchell
65 Posted 26/08/2023 at 15:07:18

Iakovos Lasonidis #59

Very sad for our once great club.

Alan McGuffog
66 Posted 27/08/2023 at 11:38:16

I can't make this out and I've posted about it before. Surely to God, in any sphere of life, if you tell your employer that you won't do your job, then you can't expect to be paid?

Then again, this is Everton so we'll probably give him another 2 years to sit on his fat arse in Paris.

Robert Tressell
67 Posted 27/08/2023 at 11:40:42
Gbamin isn't on strike or in breach or contract; he's just playing back what he's been told by the club. Nothing to see here.
John Keating
68 Posted 28/08/2023 at 06:39:29
Holgate £72k a week…


Peter Mills
69 Posted 28/08/2023 at 23:05:50
Mason Holgate looked a very promising player at one time. He then received a contract that made him wealthy beyond the reach of (probably) all of us, and thereafter he really didn’t need to bother.
Shaun Laycock
70 Posted 03/09/2023 at 19:47:00
I live very near Southampton and here's the manager's words after his debut:

Holgate, signed on loan from Everton over a week ago to offer defensive competition, was substituted after 64 minutes at Stadium of Light.

The 26 year old's loss of possession outside the box and miskick inside the area on a Sunderland cross accounted for two of the five goals.

Some things never change...

Len Hawkins
71 Posted 03/09/2023 at 20:10:51
Pity Holgate didn't go to Germany Kane loves his assists which he often got v Everton if Holgate and Keane played together.
Neil Copeland
72 Posted 03/09/2023 at 20:15:58
Len, by the sounds of it I think the Southampton supporters wish he had gone to Germany!

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