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André Gomes is close to be available to Sean Dyche as he completes his recovery from a niggling calf problem that has kept him sidelined so far this season.

The Portuguese midfielder hasn't played a competitive game for Everton since the penultimate game of 2021-22 when he was withdrawn at half-time in favour of Dele Alli in what proved to be a decisive win over Crystal Palace at Goodison Park.

He was an unused substitute in the Premier League fixture at Leeds in August 2022 before joining Lille on a season-long loan.

With Gomes unable to secure a move back to the Ligue 1 club during the last transfer window, he has been back at Finch Farm trying get back to full fitness and, according to Sean Dyche, he is on the verge of being available and is a little closer to a return to action than skipper Seamus Coleman.

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"Seamus is still making progress, but a bit away yet," Dyche said in his press conference today. "André has been in and out with niggly calf injuries, so he's touch and go whether he makes the squad. They're the main two. Hopefully, they will be back but not at the moment."


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Pat Kelly
1 Posted 05/10/2023 at 18:38:41
Is he back on grass yet ? Be like a new signing. A crap new signing. Not what we need. Never was.

No mention of Dele. He’s unplayable on his day. Which is every day now.

Colin Glassar
2 Posted 05/10/2023 at 18:43:47
Alan McGuffog
3 Posted 05/10/2023 at 18:47:47
I can stop worrying
Pete Gunby
4 Posted 05/10/2023 at 18:55:49
We have had a glaring need for an older, slower player in the midfield.
Charles Brewer
5 Posted 05/10/2023 at 19:04:50
Gomes is one of the players whom I have sympathy for. He got absolutely taken out by Son and has never been the same since. I honestly think he's tried his best to get back. I'd put Townshend alongside him in that.

It's the Gbamins, Schneiderlins and, worst of all, Alli for whom I have nothing but contempt.

Matt Byrne
6 Posted 05/10/2023 at 19:05:16
Dele and Gomes take nearly a million a month out of the club between them and contribute zero.
Barry Rathbone
7 Posted 05/10/2023 at 19:09:43
Unlike most of our midfield he's comfortable on the ball if his fitness is up to snuff he'll look like Zidane among this crew.
Duncan McDine
8 Posted 05/10/2023 at 19:50:39
Gomes is the perfect example of what's been going on at Everton for a long time now. We paid over the top for a half-arsed player that was shite even before the Son massacre. He's been on insane wages as well... that's not his fault, but his lack of effort and inability to track opposing players certainly is. As bad as our current midfield is, Gomes will not improve it.
Dale Self
9 Posted 05/10/2023 at 19:57:36
This Gomes news was really important to know before this upcoming game in which he has zero chance of contributing.
Conor McCourt
10 Posted 05/10/2023 at 20:01:44
I might be living in la la land like our manager with his bullshit about that Luton performance but I still hope Andre can be a big player for us this campaign

Apparently Gomes did quite well last season and if he can prove his fitness then he definitely can bring quality to the table.

Had Andre been on form and available on Saturday to come on for 30 minutes there is no way we would have been hoofing everything forward.

The worry is that we have had a succession of managers who have not utilised our squad properly especially Gomes and I don't have great faith in this manager to do so as evidenced by last Saturday"s debacle.

In Andre"s pre-injury season Gana provided the legs and tackling prowess while Andre kept things ticking over by controlling the tempo of the game and directing the play.

Under a succession of managers Andre, although not the same player, hasn't been helped by being deployed in a two or a three with other slugs around him.

We now have a number of athletic midfielders to compensate, meaning he in theory shouldn't be the liability he has been at times.

If our manager was a bit more savvy he has the option of starting Garner with the choice of two of our other midfielders and bring Andre on for the last twenty to dictate play.

You could even play one sitter with Jimmy and Andre as the two eights in the latter stages of certain games where you need to see out the game and managing possession.

Kieran Kinsella
11 Posted 05/10/2023 at 20:03:28
If it doesn’t rain it pours
Ray Roche
12 Posted 05/10/2023 at 20:06:33
Unfortunately Duncan, our intrepid and world class negotiator, BPB, has been stitched up on a regular basis by agents who needed only a GCE in needlework to ensure that mediocre footballers would get unbelievable contracts from the Learned One, indeed, contracts that would ensure financial security for his great, great grandchildren, never mind himself. Consequently we haven’t got a pot to piss in, yet we still feather the nest of journeyman players who are stunned by their good luck. If only their agents ran the country….
Robert Tressell
13 Posted 05/10/2023 at 20:25:02
Nice guy, I'm sure, but I grew to really loathe Gomes and I'm convinced one of the reasons Lampard kept us up season before last is that he finally dropped him.

He can, unlike Gueye, receive a ball and pass a ball. So that is something. But surely we should be building around Onana and Garner now.

Alex Kociuba
14 Posted 05/10/2023 at 21:06:24
He's better than Tom Davies which is essentially what his role will likely be - on the bench as backup. I hope he surprises us and fights for his place - he is only 30 still which is a spring chicken compared to some of our players.
Jay Harris
15 Posted 05/10/2023 at 21:18:47
Let me see now… what does Gomes bring to the table?

Getting caught on the ball because he is not quick enough for the prem both in his feet and in his head.

Giving dangerous free kicks away on the edge of our box because he is too slow to catch them. Does he score goals? I don't think so but it's so long since he had a shot at goal I can't remember.

But the girls think he's cute so he has something going for him.

Tony Abrahams
16 Posted 05/10/2023 at 21:25:12
If Gomes had real desire then I think Conor’s post@10, would have made a lot more sense.

Every manager has got to become more savvy, now teams can use five subs, but because I’m only interested in Everton, then it would be very good news if Gomes, could suddenly rekindle his love for the game, which has probably been passing him by since he had a hard time at Barcelona - bar the odd few games in the very early stages of his Everton career, imo.

If he still loved football, then I’m sure he would have left Everton in the summer, but listening to the French team saying they couldn’t afford his wages, was very telling.

The sooner Everton get back to having a proper detailed plan on the playing side of the club, can’t come soon enough, even if the other side of the club has also been fucked for years and years and fucking years.

Paul O'Neill
17 Posted 05/10/2023 at 21:26:54
I feel sorry for Gomes. Evertonians are very fickle sometimes. I remember him being enormously popular when we first signed him and then after that horrific foul by that little twerp from Tottenham he was never the same and had to also cope with a lot of the crowd turning on him. Yes he’s very well paid but all PL players are. I hope he proves the doubters wrong and we get our money’s worth.
Christy Ring
18 Posted 05/10/2023 at 21:30:59
A fit Gomes in a 3 man midfield would definitely be an addition in my opinion, he can find a pass and put us on the front foot, which we lack at the moment.
Denver Daniels
19 Posted 05/10/2023 at 21:37:13
He'll be like a new signing 😁
Dave Abrahams
20 Posted 05/10/2023 at 21:54:08
Paul (17), “ I hope he proves the doubters wrong and we get our money’s worth”

I think the doubters started doubting in Barcelona when they waved him away with their white hankies and a lot of fans here started doubting him well before he was injured in the Spurs game.

As for getting our money’s worth, are you having a laugh Paul? Gomes has cost Everton £58,350,000 in wages and transfer fee,and he becomes a free agent next summer,how is going to give us our money’s worth?

We should sue the man who gave him this contract and the fella who signed it off.

Tony Everan
21 Posted 05/10/2023 at 22:47:46
I can’t see him being played, unless it’s a risk free cameo, as the reality won’t change. He’s a bit too slow and gets swamped in the ultra fast Premier League and loses possession. He’s not a bad player just not compatible with the EPL.

He did ok with Lille and they wanted him back at a wage that was sensible to them (25k -50k pw?) probably. It’s good news for him and us he is nearly fully fit, that means he can move on in January and we will save 2.5 million in wages. Also may mean Thelwell can bring in a shrewd midfield buy, or more likely, loan from somewhere.

Dave, it is astonishing that £58m total for Gomes in 2019, fast forward four years and we are begging for £20m from god knows who to pay the day to day running costs of the entire club.

Frank Fearns
22 Posted 06/10/2023 at 08:43:35
Dave -- £58,350,000. Really? Well worth £58 million but the £350k going over the odds. I give up.
Kevin Edward
23 Posted 06/10/2023 at 08:55:38
Adding Gomes to the bench won't help Dyche’s problem.

Can't see the Goodison faithful calling for Gomes to come on and change a game (for the better rather than the usual effort).

Yes he might have one or two decent performances left in him for EFC, but is a reminder of where it all went wrong.
He should have been moved on.

Dave Abrahams
24 Posted 06/10/2023 at 10:01:20
Frank (22), lol, yes I went a bit too far but it all counts when you take his tax payments and stamp contributions into account!
Stephen Vincent
25 Posted 06/10/2023 at 10:02:44
One of the reasons Lille couldn't afford his wages was that our prospective new owners screwed them over by failing to pay the balance of a transfer fee owed by Vasco da Gama for goalkeeper Leo Jardim.

Go figure.

Christine Foster
26 Posted 06/10/2023 at 10:16:55
To be honest I think Gomez left the building 18 months ago and was/is unhappy with his return. By all accounts he did well in France and wanted to continue, Everton needed the cash but failed to strike a deal because Lille could not afford the transfer fee?

I think fans are fickle, but no need to be abusive about the player, he was/is a good representative of the club but his time on the pitch is unlikely to be much. Hopefully he will move on in January which would suit both parties.

Interestingly, no comeback dates for Dele? Did he have an injury setback again?

Peter Gorman
27 Posted 06/10/2023 at 15:39:26
Yes, Dele Alli had another setback I believe, Christine.

The manager mentioned something about it a week or a few ago.

It was around the time he was papped laughing his head off whilst throwing away a parking ticket after a nice lunch in Manchester, go figure.

Bill Hawker
28 Posted 06/10/2023 at 15:52:07
Amazing how many Evertonians get selective amnesia. A post earlier stated that "a lot of Evertonians had doubts about him before he was injured."

Haha… you're having a laugh. He was well-regarded before the injury and it's clear to anyone who's been watching that he was good for us before that injury. I don't recall one Evertonian saying out loud when we acquired him that they had doubts. Not one.

Yeah, he's been crap since but let's not let facts get in the way of a good moan. I don't think he's the answer at all and if we can get something for him or get his wages off the books, I'm all for it.

But this "he was crap the whole time" is just utter bull. Reminds me of how Evertonians hated Fellaini until he was "good" and then stated that they thought he was always good. We love a good rewrite of history, don't we?

Our fanbase needs to give their heads a wobble at times or just go out for a breath of fresh air.

Dave Abrahams
29 Posted 06/10/2023 at 21:42:18
Bill (28),

Gomes had a very good game versus Liverpool at Anfield; MotM I think. He then scored a terrific goal versus Woves at Goodison in a 3-1 defeat. He didn't have a good game in that match.

They were the two outstanding games I remember from his earlier games. I remember having doubts about him in most of his games, but everyone remembers his derby performance – it was a one-off.

He was just as slow before his injury as he was after, getting caught in possession, giving ridiculous and obvious fouls away. He always came across as a nice fella off the field – and maybe he was, that's another thing that goes in his favour.

I didn't have any doubts about him when we acquired him because I hadn't seen him,but I knew Barcelona fans didn't think much of him and that was in a slower paced game than the premier, and after a few games for us I began to understand why, I couldn't believe the wages he was on for such a mediocre player.

Tony Abrahams
30 Posted 06/10/2023 at 22:06:55
I'm sure both Mike Gaynes and Sam Hoare would disagree with that post, Bill H, although I might be wrong, mate.

I also think you are wrong with regards Evertonians wanting to rewrite history, Bill, although if this was even possible, then the Boxing Day when Bill Kenwright was introduced to the crowd as our new owner would definitely be the place were I would start!

John Raftery
31 Posted 06/10/2023 at 22:54:30
Bill (28),

I had many doubts about Gomes before his injury. Apart from that derby game, he was generally poor in away games. He was terrible in the 3-2 defeat at Newcastle and the 2-0 at Fulham where, if I remember correctly, he was sent off. He can pass the ball well when allowed time on the ball. The problem is opponents very rarely give you that time in the Premier League.

His injury was a bad one but nowhere near as problematic as for example an ACL rupture. He was back in action within months. Gomes appeared to be a nice guy but nowhere near the standard required in this league in which pace and power must be aligned with quality.

Jimmy Carr
32 Posted 07/10/2023 at 10:41:41
Bill (28) I agree with you.

When Gomes was signed there was an excitement amongst the fanbase that we'd acquired a proper Rolls Royce midfielder. Anyone saying otherwise is, as you say, suffering from selective amnesia, and yes, it's a common problem on Toffee Web, perhaps not so much with our fanbase in general.

If James Garner fails to impress in central midfield we'll soon have the keyboard warriors on here saying Dyche was a fool for playing him there. They'll conveniently forget they were the ones calling for it. It's the way it is. A bit like Beto and Calvert-Lewin up top. That call has gone very quiet now.

Re Gomes, can't see him coming back now to be fair. He looks too slow for the Premier League. Pity. Good player on his day and we could do with more of those.

Dave Abrahams
33 Posted 07/10/2023 at 10:49:16
Jimmy (32), what did you think of Andre after watching him after, say, ten games?
Jimmy Carr
34 Posted 07/10/2023 at 10:59:12
Dave (33)

I was at Goodison when we played Chelsea and Gomes was in midfield, during the Silva years, so he'd played way more than 10 games by then. He ran the midfield that day in tandem with Gueye. He didn't look too slow for the Premier League. But yeah, his form tailed off, along with Everton's. He seemed to lose confidence and didn't look the same player after his injury. I think with the right personnel around him, he could still be a player, but not currently at Everton, he doesn't suit the way Sean Dyche wants us to play.

Dave Abrahams
35 Posted 07/10/2023 at 11:06:09
Jimmy ( 34), Fair enough Jimmy I must have seen that game but honestly don’t remember it, but I remember Gueye was always industrious in most games he played, wish I could say the same for Andre but I don’t think industrious fits Andre, slow and stylish fits him better, slow more often than stylish.
Tony Abrahams
36 Posted 07/10/2023 at 11:20:33
He doesn’t suit the way Dyche wants us to play? I’m not sure what way Dyche wants us to play, but I’m sure he would find a place for Gomes, if the lad had enough desire left in himself, to “really try” and produce anything near the talent that he possesses?
Jimmy Carr
37 Posted 07/10/2023 at 13:05:42
Tony (36)

You're sure Dyche would find a place for him? Based on?. A conversation you've had with Sean Dyche?

The nearest we have to Gomes is James Garner and so far he's been unable to get a berth in central midfield. (This might be because Dyche thinks he's a better crosser of the ball than the other options available to him and he wants crosses in the box.) So far Dyche has played with two sitters and one more forward midfielder who can cover ground and potentially chip in with goals, this seems to be his preference. Though I accept his options are limited. I don't see where a passer like Gomes fits into that thinking. But I wouldn't mind being proved wrong.

As for Gomes 'not really trying'? How do you know he doesn't really try? How do you know it's not a lack of confidence or speed that's inhibiting him? That seems much more likely to me.

Steve Croston
38 Posted 08/10/2023 at 00:26:28
Jesus, is he still here? Can't we just pay him off and be done with the whole debacle? He is the exact, polar opposite of what we need right now (quick, committed and fit).

Taxi for Gomes!

Ed Prytherch
39 Posted 08/10/2023 at 00:43:59
He will be cover for James Garner until the end of the season. He looks good when he has time on the ball but not when he is pressed. He was a Rolls-Royce of a player before the Son foul.
Bill Gienapp
40 Posted 08/10/2023 at 02:26:04
I doubt we'll see much of him. He'll be fifth choice in midfield after Garner, Onana, Gueye and Doucouré, sort of like Davies last season, and likely only play if there's an injury crisis.

His stint at Lille showed he's still a solid player, I just don't think he's a good fit for the Premier League at this point.

Kieran Kinsella
41 Posted 08/10/2023 at 03:55:26

I hope you're right. I've been watching French league football for about 35 years and it's a funny old league. I'd say more than any other European league there is huge variability between the best players and the worse. In that sense I suppose it's kind of like the MLS.

A good place for talented kids to get game time, a place where very good players seem excellent and one where limited journeymen with one attribute, eg, passing, shooting, dribbling, can seem like franchise players. Gomes did well there but not as well as the other Gomes, the Man Utd reject, who is nowhere near to an England call-up.

The big issue with Andre is that, in the past, he'd have been a roll-of-the-dice inexpensive type like Li Tie, Warzycha, Preki, but for some insane reason Brands & Silva decided to pay a wage to him as if he was Iniesta.

If we'd paid him Tom Davies money, I think people would view him more sympathetically but, on Michel Platini wages, he's obviously going to get stick as he is nowhere near that level.

Steve Brown
42 Posted 08/10/2023 at 04:44:02
Conor @ 10, summarises it perfectly.

We have one central midfielder who looks comfortable in possession and links play in Jimmy Garner. Onana, Gueye and Doucoué are all athletes who are very inefficient on the ball — when you see Doucoué charge forward at pace with the ball, you know there is only a 50/50 chance his next pass will find a blue shirt.

He will be back-up to Garner unless Dyche has another brainstorm and switches Jimmy out of position again.

Steve Brown
43 Posted 08/10/2023 at 04:49:01
Great post, Bill Hawker.

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