Season › 2023-24 › News Everton fans protest outside Premier League HQ and fly banner over Etihad Michael Kenrick 25/11/2023 45comments | Jump to last Approximately 50 Everton fans conducted a protest outside the Premier League’s London headquarters on Friday evening, expressing dissatisfaction with the club’s 10-point deduction. “You’re not fit to run the league” â¦@premierleagueâ©Not just the view of Everton fans, but ex-footballers, pundits, and fans across football.Evertonians accept a punishment is due but don’t accept many aspects including the severity and lack of due process. pic.twitter.com/ROdmOMdAtz — Alan Newton (@AlanRNewton) November 24, 2023 During the peaceful protest, Everton supporters chanted and displayed a banner asserting the Premier League’s alleged corruption. The demonstration was orderly and supervised by the police. The message was repeated on Saturday morning when, as publicised, a plane bearing the message "Premier League = Corrupt #UTFT #EFC" was flown over the Etihad Stadium in the second half of the televised Manchester City vs Liverpool match. Reader Comments (45) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Les Callan 1 Posted 25/11/2023 at 12:32:53 Did anyone see the plane flying over Man City's ground? Michael Kenrick 2 Posted 25/11/2023 at 12:33:31 Where's da Plane?I'm only watching this shite to see our protest banner… Brian Williams 3 Posted 25/11/2023 at 12:46:51 If Sky are prepared to dumb down and/or replace the crowd noise for tomorrow's game they're not likely to show our airborn banner.This despite the fact they've shown previous airborn ones, if my memory serves me correctly.They'll be under strict instructions what to show and what not to show, the spineless, sycophantic twats. Eric Myles 4 Posted 25/11/2023 at 12:49:24 I thought a 'plane was a bad idea as it's high enough for the cameras to ignore that's why I suggested a helicopter. Brian Williams 5 Posted 25/11/2023 at 12:56:50 Chopper or plane, would be flown at the same height as the minimum is 1000ft whether fixed wing or rotary I believe. Phil Sammon 6 Posted 25/11/2023 at 12:59:27 Where do you think helicopters fly, Eric? Peter Moore 7 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:24:13 Well done and thank you Blues. A valid message for sure. I hope it hits home. The disgraceful 10 point penalty levied on the Club is an embarrassment to them, not us. Tomorrow will ram home that message further. Here's hoping its an impressive showing both on and off the pitch. I believe it will be. UTFT. Jerome Shields 8 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:39:43 Well done and Thank you. Neil Copeland 9 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:42:27 Every little bit helps, thanks to everyone for making the effort. Michael Kenrick 10 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:45:09 Eric, Do you seriously think anyone can just fly a chopper, willy-nilly, into the Etihad while a game is going on? Oh, as long as it's in the Flight Plan, then it's okay? Right… Brian Williams 11 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:48:07 I can hear aircraft noise right now at the Etihad 60 minutes in. Brent Stephens 12 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:48:31 Is that a plane I can hear above the crowd noise? Brian Williams 13 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:52:23 It was, Brent. Brent Stephens 14 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:52:58 You did, Brian! Mick Hoban 15 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:53:09 BBC are saying - Manchester City v Liverpool: Banner asking for release of activist in UAE flown over stadium. Soren Moyer 16 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:56:02 If the banner was about any of the Sky 6 clubs, their cameras would have zoomed on it several times by now. Rob Halligan 17 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:57:05 Didn't know “Maybe the plane hasn't flown over yetâ€, was offensive enough to be removed… Anyway, ours was probably scuppered:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67521024 Brian Williams 18 Posted 25/11/2023 at 13:57:51 Mick, that was in the first half. Was gone after around the 20-minute mark. The second aircraft was around the 60-minute mark. James Hughes 19 Posted 25/11/2023 at 14:03:56 The plane and banner was flown. Sky did not show it.Reddit Mick Hoban 20 Posted 25/11/2023 at 14:08:45 Red Echo confirm the second plane was ours - A plane flies over the Etihad Stadium with a message reading 'Premier League = Corrupt' in relation to the docked points of Everton during the Premier League match between Manchester City and Liverpool FC Michael Kenrick 21 Posted 25/11/2023 at 14:18:38 Mirror confirms:Everton [fans] have protested against the Premier League's decision to hand them a 10-point deduction by flying a banner over the Etihad Stadium during Manchester City vs Liverpool.The plane went over the stadium in the second half, with a banner reading: "Premier League = Corrupt. #UTFT #EFC". Sky Sports did not show the plane on their coverage. Tony Everan 22 Posted 25/11/2023 at 14:32:30 Here's the Blue Baron:https://twitter.com/Evertonthat_/status/1728411024213061785/photo/1 Dale Self 23 Posted 25/11/2023 at 14:36:41 Blue Baron, that's good. Gerry Quinn 24 Posted 25/11/2023 at 15:02:58 The BBC have also conveniently managed to cut the last pair of abbreviated letters off their photo!!!!! So. UTFT and EFC to you... Dale Self 25 Posted 25/11/2023 at 15:12:09 While aggravating overall there are some implicit good signs. The Yank USA USA coverage omitted Everton's trouble. They will have to review the topic tomorrow but the fact they chose not to announce it signals a weak hand to me. I suspect they are a bit nervous about their stance at this point. Raymond Fox 26 Posted 25/11/2023 at 15:14:15 Flying that banner was a seriously dumb idea, we have had very good support from all sides in regards of the 10-point deduction.Calling them corrupt isn't going to do us any favours, it's only likely to get their backs up. Pete Neilson 27 Posted 25/11/2023 at 15:31:39 Good on The 1878 Originals and everyone who has contributed to the plane, banners and placards. It'd only be seriously dumb to treat the Premier League with respect. They've shown us none. No club should be walking on eggshells to appease a malevolent administration. That gets you nowhere as shown to date. This is the supporters' stance, the club officials can doff their caps if they prefer. Brent Stephens 28 Posted 25/11/2023 at 15:37:42 If we believe the narrative that the Commission was being steered by the Premier League, and given that an appeal has yet to be heard, by a second group that will (if the above narrative is correct) also be steered by the Premier League, then prodding the bear in advance of the appeal is not going to do us any favours. And if human nature kicks in, then the appeal body (for which read Premier League in this narrative) is going to be even more biased against us. Paul Birmingham 29 Posted 25/11/2023 at 15:45:43 The Premier League have proven over decades they have no understanding of the spirit of the game, fairness or consistency, and have set a precedent with the unjust punishment they rigged up to be served and administered to Everton FC. They set a new benchmark in cowardice and manipulation of rules. They don't know the meaning of integrity.They don't realise what they have unleashed and have sealed their own fate, the football world knows that they have no wriggle room. Evertonians will fight the just cause until justice is upheld for Everton, and their campaign to send Everton into the abyss has failed.Get a new board and Chairman in place ASAP, be a club united and solid, and rinse and squeeze these corrupt bunch of frauds and take them to the cleaners.Get a government regulator in place, hopefully with people with integrity to prevent this most corrupt of sporting bodies being able to operate again.But, tbh, in the UK political scene at the moment, only a couple of politicians seem to have it.Brown envelope, bribery and corruption bureau also to be set up to police the Premier League administration. UTFTs! Dale Self 30 Posted 25/11/2023 at 15:56:31 Interesting. I would also support the understated approach except in this case I believe the Premier League is already set to give it a really, really, no really good look again and then kindly say ah there's just nothing we can do. Whether justified by their overblown penalty or me just getting the creep vibe that is what my body is telling me. My mind is overloaded. Les Callan 31 Posted 25/11/2023 at 16:00:00 Just read on Wikipedia that the appointment of Masters as CEO was shrouded in controversy. Apparently he was 4th choice! All this controversy needs to be exposed by EFC. Pete Neilson 32 Posted 25/11/2023 at 16:18:22 Good point, Les. Two quit before they even started.Link Pat Kelly 33 Posted 25/11/2023 at 16:45:49 We're bottom as things stand with Burnley winning. The only way is up ! Rob Halligan 34 Posted 25/11/2023 at 16:47:30 West Ham equalise, but we need another from them. James Hughes 35 Posted 25/11/2023 at 17:06:03 I agree the Premier League isn't corrupt, it is inept and incompotent at best and fudges all main issues. Whatever noise we make as fans is irrelevant to them; we can send a plane with a banner every 10 minutes, They will not care. The breakaway league reaction showed that quite clearly. Oh dear if we lose the big clubs, will we still pull in the big bucks? Let's be nice just in case they are serious. In their collective haste to prove they do not need independant regulation, they have proved opposite. James Hughes 36 Posted 25/11/2023 at 17:08:54 Oh and another point. When we beat Man Utd tomorrow, it would have taken us above Chelsea. They can't be having tha,t can they?! Nick Page 37 Posted 25/11/2023 at 17:11:57 If you honestly think the people running the Premier League are inept, you need your head examining. Inept people do not occupy the sort of positions these greedy money-grabbing self-interested sociopaths do. The only way you deal with these twats is to stand up to them, shame them – easier said than done given Sky et al are part of the problem – and get the public sympathy on your side. For years under Kenwright & Co we just let them walk all over us. Tell them to fuck right off with their made-up so-called independent commission “judgementsâ€. The whole organisation has been overrun with money, power and hence corruption. That's how it works. Pat Kelly 38 Posted 25/11/2023 at 17:15:39 Things are looking up already Barry Hesketh 39 Posted 25/11/2023 at 17:18:39 Don't poke the bear? When it's already ripped your arm off and if it carries on with your head in its mouth, it might lead to your death, yeah that sounds like a fantastic idea to me. Premier League may or not be corrupt, but from where I'm standing it is giving a fairly good impression of a corrupt organisation. A definition of corrupt includes: dishonestly using your position or power to get an advantage, especially for money: Not necessarily a definition that can be made directly at the Premier League, but certainly one that could be made against the clubs that make up its league, particularly those that have enjoyed oodles of success, since its inception.Do those VAR decisions ever ever go against the neighbours, oh yeah the definitely not corrupt Premier League want to see an open race for the title and not a foregone conclusion with that 'cheating' Manchester team running away with it. Sorry despite it taking up three weeks of headlines I forgot about the Spurs game, silly me.If not for the points deduction we could have gone into tenth with a victory tomorrow, with the points deduction we're hoping to 'climb' out of the bottom three. Points deduction is wrong, ten points deduction is harsh and doesn't in any way, reflect the crime, don't stop complaining about it, until its overturned, screw the bear! Brent Stephens 40 Posted 25/11/2023 at 17:32:41 "Don't poke the bear? When it's already ripped your arm off and if it carries on with your head in its mouth, it might lead to your death, yeah that sounds like a fantastic idea to me."So no point in appealing? That's smart. Barry Hesketh 41 Posted 25/11/2023 at 17:46:49 Brent,I want Evertonians to kick the bear where it hurts the most, not roll over and accept a totally ludicrous decision and put a stop to the protests, because it may make the bear more angry and therefore look upon our appeal unfavourably. If we were a far better and stronger outfit than we currently are, I'd be minded to take the current penalty on the chin and tell the Premier League to shove the points where the sun don't shine. Twelve wins on the spin for Everton – highly unlikely but we can dream – and we can tell them to keep those points we didn't need them.I imagine that we'll have to wait until the next International break in March before the appeals commission sits again and issues its verdict. Si Cooper 42 Posted 26/11/2023 at 01:43:43 “Inept people do not occupy the sort of positions these greedy money-grabbing self-interested sociopaths do.â€Actually Nick, sociopaths often are inept but it's not found out until their absolute belief in their own pre-eminence has carried them through a multitude of flawed interviews to the upper echelons, where they continue to float around wreaking unintended havoc because no-one wants to confess they should never have been appointed in the first place. Christine Foster 43 Posted 26/11/2023 at 04:00:30 Tipping Point for Moshiri... Here's a thought for you: the 10 points goes to appeal and is not rescinded, 777 Partners half their purchase price offer. Everton face relegation by stealth, or further financial fine or points deduction.What does Moshiri do? Run? Sell for what he could get?Seriously, if I was in Moshiri's shoes, I would hire the best board he can find, and stay put. It might take a year or two but he would likely recoup the hundreds of millions lost when we get in the new stadium or are returned to the Premier League. It's not stupid... I am serious. Hire the best and move out of the way. Phil Greenough 44 Posted 27/11/2023 at 14:01:36 I've just had this reply from my MP, Peter Dowd. Dear Mr Greenough, Thank you for your email. I have signed Early Day Motion 79 as a sponsor. I hope we can also take this matter further with other interventions and actions. You can see the list of MPs who have signed the EDM here: https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/61551I appreciate the time you have taken to write to me about this matter. Yours sincerely,Peter Dowd MP David Vaughan 45 Posted 27/11/2023 at 14:10:03 Good on him, and you, Mr Greenough. EDM not yet signed by one Tory, I see... Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb