Season › 2024-25 › Opinion › Talking Points Our goalies by Don Alexander | 30/10/2024 33 Comments [Jump to last] It's an admittedly well trodden path for many of us on TW but I've always been fascinated by the uniqueness of our goalies (and goalies in general) when it comes to scrutiny and accountability. I'm therefore inviting any memories of our 'keepers who delivered man-of-the-match performances regardless of their standing now being well less regarded than the legends that were Westy, Nev, Nigel, Tim and, dare I say it, Jordan. The first one I saw live was Albert Dunlop, then Andy Rankin, Geoff Barnett, Dai Davies, David Lawson, "Wee" Georgie Wood, Martin Hodge, Jim McDonagh, Jim Arnold, Bobby Simms, Paul Gerrard, Thomas Myrhe, Steve Simonson, Richard Wright and, eventually, Joel Robles. Personally I was always impressed by George Wood but for the life of me I can't now recall any actual matches where he excelled, but excel he did. Article continues below video content Anyway, do any of us have a healthier, and dare I say it more generous, memory than me? Return to Talking Points index : Add your Comments » Reader Comments (33) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Dave Abrahams 1 Posted 30/10/2024 at 20:29:42 Jim Arnold in that cup game v Man Utd at Old Trafford, Jim along with some terrific defenders kept United at bay well into injury time when Macari (?) scored from close range to knock the Blues out of the cup. Arnold made plenty of outstanding saves in that game and along with Neville Southall were the only two out of the many Kendall signed, when he first came, who were value for money.Georgie Wood was a very likeable fella who wasn't a bad ‘keeper but I think he was handicapped to an extent with wearing contact lenses! Peter Mills 2 Posted 31/10/2024 at 10:30:51 Don, I was away at college in the late 70s and missed an evening derby at Anfield (it may have been 1977). I spoke with my dad on the phone after the game, he said George Wood had been superb. Mick O'Malley 3 Posted 31/10/2024 at 13:27:37 Robin Olsen saving 2 penalties against City, I thought he was a really decent number 2 Jeff Armstrong 4 Posted 31/10/2024 at 21:17:14 Dave, your correct Arnold was excellent that afternoon in the cup quarter final, we were terrific underdogs against the odds that day as we where still 18 months or so away from becoming a great side, it was Stapleton who got the late winner and I think it was better than a tap in. I came away from the ground gutted but thought later it was a great performance and we where only a couple of minutes away from a Goodison replay.Don, I dont recall George Wood being referred to as “wee”Georgie, he was about 61” and 15 stone! Jeff Armstrong 5 Posted 31/10/2024 at 21:34:29 Who remembers Drew Brand? Think Leeds put 5 past him on debut, never to be seen again.Ruddy had a decent carreer as did Pat Jennings, but not with us! Peter Mills 6 Posted 31/10/2024 at 21:46:35 One of the most entertaining goalkeeping performances Ive seen was Gordon Wests in the FA Cup 3rd round at Southport in 1968. Gordon had a long-term thigh injury which prevented him from kicking the ball, so he developed a throw which could fling the ball deep into the opponents half. To counter this lethal weapon, Southports Eric Redrobe, a large, muscular gentleman, decided to stand in front of Westie whenever he had the ball in his hands. Every time, Gordon dropped to one knee and was awarded a free kick, to Erics dismay and, ultimately, fury. In the days when a booking took some earning, Eric eventually went into the notebook in the 2nd half, with a clear warning that another offence would see him taking an early bath. Gordon had stitched him up, Big Joe scored a goal, we made it to the final. Danny O'Neill 7 Posted 31/10/2024 at 21:55:48 I met and had my picture taken with George Wood outside the players entrance at Goodison as a youngster. I can't look beyond Southall. His best save amongst many, was that one away at Sheffield Wednesday for me. Ian Burns 8 Posted 31/10/2024 at 22:42:05 Neville Southall sits on top of the goalie tree for me - unsurpassed.However I want to mention a certain Andy Rankin who never let us down when he replaced or stood in for Gordon West. One game at Goodison we beat either Chelsea or Nottm Forest (cant recall which) 6-1but the thing I remember was a save from AR who was diving one way but a deflection required him to turn in midair to tip the ball round the post. It was astonishing. Thanks for the memory Andy. Jeff Armstrong 9 Posted 01/11/2024 at 05:34:54 Southall at Spurs from the Falco header. Lee Courtliff 10 Posted 01/11/2024 at 07:19:43 It was Stekelenberg who saved 2 pens away at City in 2016, then he let in a soft one a week later at Burnley in a 2-1 defeat!The life of a goalkeeper, eh? Mick O'Malley 11 Posted 01/11/2024 at 08:07:04 Sorry Lee your right, I just remembered blonde hair, I thought Olsen was a decent number 2 Danny O'Neill 12 Posted 01/11/2024 at 08:12:04 Listening to tales of my dad's generation and watching the limited footage available, apparently West could throw a ball as far as he could kick it.Then again, Pickford has given us some breathless moments of late. Obviously he had that brain fart moment at Anfield and doesn't command his box as well as he should. Maybe that's down to his lack of confidence of those in front of him or just his instinct to stay close to his goal line and 6 yard box.But he's made some spectacular saves.I also think Tim Howard was a bit underated Peter Mills 13 Posted 01/11/2024 at 09:39:58 Danny#7, Neville Southalls display at Hillsborough at the end of the 84-85 season was the best Ive seen.We travelled to Sheffield that day with the possibility of clinching the title. The rs had to lose in an early kick-off at Anfield, we just needed our customary win. Things didnt quite go that way. The rs kept going into the lead, Chelsea fought back, but eventually it was 4-3. Never mind, we would stroll to our victory.Wrong again. Wednesday tore into us. They had early chances but Andy Gray scraped in a goal midway through the first half. Neville kept us in the lead until the break. Surely we would gather ourselves at halftime?No. We had one of the toughest 45 minutes of the season with Lee Chapman and our old mates Imre Varadi and Mick Lyons causing our defence huge problems. The Big Man was never going to let one in that day, he was a man possessed. What a reception he and the rest of the team got at the end of the game. Danny O'Neill 14 Posted 01/11/2024 at 09:58:21 Peter, I'll always remember that. The memory fades, but I remember when we seemed to be back and forward to Hillsborough countless times in January, including New Years Day on the Amberline coaches from Speke (for me), when we played them in the league and the cup replays. Les Callan 15 Posted 01/11/2024 at 10:29:35 Big Nev was the greatest keeper I've ever seen……anywhere. And he rarely gets the credit he deserves from the media. Paul Hewitt 16 Posted 01/11/2024 at 10:41:16 Les @15. That 84-85 team gets zero credit when so-called pundits talk about great teams from the past. Shocking really. Les Callan 17 Posted 01/11/2024 at 10:53:49 Sure was, Paul, and if only!!!! But don't get me started! Les Callan 18 Posted 01/11/2024 at 10:55:28 Better explain that, Paul. I'm talking about the “great teams” bit. Danny O'Neill 19 Posted 01/11/2024 at 11:19:39 I think what Paul @16 is saying is that the Everton team of that era never got the credit we deserved. We just weren't fashionable with the media, who desperately wanted Tottenham to win the league.Well, we saw to that.It was the same in 1995 when we ruined their dream Tottenham v Manchester United final by dumping Tottenham out of the semi-final. Kevin Molloy 20 Posted 01/11/2024 at 11:49:31 The team that never gets any credit (and probably for good reason!) is 86-87: Mimms, Harper, Pointon, Van den Hauwe, Ratcliffe, Langley, Adams, Power, Sheedy, Steven, Sharp, Heath. Seriously, how on earth did that team win the league? But win it we did, and in some style I recall. Steven and Sheedy basically. Si Cooper 21 Posted 02/11/2024 at 00:54:27 Kevin (20), I thought Paul Power was also a significant performer for us as well but overall it was a situation where the team as a whole was much greater than the sum of its parts.1984-85 team was similar in that regard I thought which is maybe why the ‘individual star celebrity focussed media overlooks them.On goalies, I tend to like (have empathy for) all who wear our jersey, but Neville and Nigel are the stand out performers for me. Eric Myles 22 Posted 02/11/2024 at 05:39:02 Danny #12, yes West was a great thrower of the ball, to over the halfway line.I tried to model that part of my goalkeeping skills from West but being short sighted had to make do with shorter distances. Not that it was any great standard, schoolboy games, but it confused the opposition when the ball wasn't kicked route one.Truth is I was never a great kicker of the ball anyway. When I played right back I had speed, a hard tackle and could pass, but never able to hoof the ball downfield, and again, couldn't see that far anyway!My 5-a-side games at uni were much better. Mike Gaynes 23 Posted 02/11/2024 at 06:11:20 In my friend Brian Viner's excellent book Looking for the Toffees, he tracks down and interviews the heroes of his youth, from the famous (Latchford, Dobson, Thomas) to the more obscure (Robinson, Telfer, Pejic). And Brian's goalbox idol was the "handsome" Scotsman, George Wood. Danny #12, I played briefly with a keeper like that, Jim Standen, who won the FA Cup with West Ham and was also a top professional cricket bowler. I was his DCL-style target man for half a season in a California semipro side, and he could unfailingly find my head or chest with either a dropkick or that cannon of a right arm. Danny O'Neill 24 Posted 02/11/2024 at 06:41:45 Kevin, as has been said many times, 86-87 was probably a more remarkable achievement by Kendall. Ravaged by injuries to key players, he brought in the likes of Paul Power, that raised a few eyebrows, but he guided us to a second league title in 3 years against the odds. Danny O'Neill 25 Posted 02/11/2024 at 06:55:34 Mike, you throw up some names from my early childhood there. I've know reason why, but Pejic stuck in my head.We had some good players, George Wood included, but they will always be remembered as the nearly men. They just couldn't quite get there and missed out on that elusive League Cup. Ian Jones 26 Posted 02/11/2024 at 08:08:22 Don, you have thrown up some memories there. I just about remember Geoff Barnett from my football sticker days but a Google search for more brought up Iain Turner who had an indifferent game when he replaced Tim Howard in the game at home vs Man Utd in which we were 2 up, lost 4-2. I also remember watching Jan Mucha in a game, think it might have been a cuo game vs Brentford..Am surprised Neil Lawson hasn't chipped in with a comment or three :) Andrew Merrick 27 Posted 02/11/2024 at 08:28:52 Gordon west's throwing distribution is un surpassed, I would also give mention to his number 2 Andy Rankin.Nev is undisputed number 1, and a nice down to earth guy.Nigel Martyn was still a very class act when he came to goodison, composed and competent. I liked Tim too, great character I thought, then there's Picks, didn't get to England's number one by fluke..I went on the stadium tour yesterday, to say goodbye, I'd like to thank our guides Bill and David for their excellent knowledge and memories... Jeff Armstrong 28 Posted 02/11/2024 at 08:41:47 Ian#26, Neil Lawson hasnt been mentioned probably because his name is David 😂😂 another average keeper who probably stopped us from winning silverware, Shilton was available when he left Leicester for Stoke and we didnt go for him. Winston Williamson 29 Posted 02/11/2024 at 09:12:59 My very first game was a Goodson game against Southampton. We won three nil. I missed the first goal as I was studying Southall. He was my hero as a kid. I was a goalkeeper too. He was by far the best in the league at that time imo…Always remember him coming out at half time to sit in goal, totally pissed off at the depths we had fallen to. If he was playing now, hed be a lot more pissed off at the team than Pickford gets now! I dont mind Pickford either. Hes made some spectacular saves for us. He has weaknesses but there is not a goalkeeper playing today on Southalls level. Ian Jones 30 Posted 02/11/2024 at 10:59:44 Jeff, my understanding is that the Neil Lawson I refer to in my comment is a contributor on ToffeeWeb and happens to be David Lawson's son... so was perhaps being a bit cheeky with my comment, hence the smiley face.Neil, if you are reading this, apologies. Jeff Armstrong 31 Posted 02/11/2024 at 11:34:29 🥵🥵…..err sorry Neil.and Ian too. Ray Roche 32 Posted 02/11/2024 at 12:10:19 Winston, I thought that the Neville sit-in was against Leeds? Rob Hooton 33 Posted 02/11/2024 at 12:30:20 Winston, Big Nev was my hero too and I played in goal for the school team. I absolutely idolised Southall and also watched him closely when at the match so that my positioning was better. I tried to be as brave & fearless as Southall, which always earned plenty of kudos from my teammates and coach!I wasn't considered tall enough for GK once we got out of our teens and was moulded into a half-decent centre-half when playing Sunday league. I thought I was too short but still won most things in the air somehow, think part of it was the fearless determination that I picked up from worshiping Southall. 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