The real question is “what did Moyes learn?” Answers on a postage stamp please.

Ja Eric. Es ist seltsam.

Robert Williams ran rings around you Patric. Your response had the emptiness and guile of a cornered politician: platitude-land, hollow muddled inconsistencies You ‘care’? But you wrote this: ‘The worry is, people just can’t bring themselves to care, or to be worried. That’s certainly the case for this writer’. This: ‘ … but it’s tough to bring yourself to care about this type of defeat when we’ve seen it all before’. This: ‘ … it’s fair to ask, what’s the point?’ This: ‘What are Everton? They just exist’. And this: ‘ … and we should all be fed up of Everton merely existing’ ‘… fed up of Everton merely existing’. Dear God, I never thought that I would read this on an EFC site, not even one that sacrifices to the gambling Gods. Can anyone imagine Lyndon Lloyd writing this? You certainly don’t speak for someone like me Patric. Everton has meant everything since I was a wee boy in north Liverpool. It’s in my life. It is impossible for Everton to ‘merely exist’.

Mr. Steers no one – NO ONE – on this site posts as much rubbish as you (let’s start with Coleman, shall we), though you seem especially in the last few weeks or so to bask in calling other posters and their posts ‘rubbish’. There is more sense in Paul Hewitt’s post than in anything that you have posted of late. In a word, this latest doodle bomb from you is erm ‘rubbish’.

Anyone else noticed that when Rocco posts the title of the post under Recent Comments on the Home page is in German?

Ilzer from Hoffenheim is also good, and like Schuster, he has the benefit of being able to work in peace. In my opinion, Hoeneß from Stuttgart or Ole Werner would be a good fit for us. Hoeneß has the ability to take a team forward, and Werner helped Bremen progress—he also did good work during his time in Leipzig.

Julian Schuster of Freiburg is a very good coach. He learned a great deal from Streich. The problem is that it’s impossible to say how coaches from Freiburg—such as Schuster, Streich, or Finke—would fare at another club. They have all spent, or continue to spend, a long time in Freiburg, where they are able to work in a family-like environment, free from pressure. In that setting, even relegation is not a disaster.

Takes a balloon on a stick to a knife fight now

Get a grip, we got beat away to the champions.

What should we go for Scott?

(Damn this stupid upside down lay out and the small keystroke limit) Moyes doesn’t know any other way. He’s been playing this way since 2004 …if any confirmation is required just revisit Tuchal’s sell out Vs Spain If you play in a Moyes manner You’ll get a Moyes result. As I said in Jan 2025 when he returned Moyes will be Moyes – why are you all suddenly surprised? He’s not going anywhere this side of new owners or a 17th /18th league position – maybe not even then

Moyes doesn’t know any other way. He’s been playing this way since 2004 …if any confirmation is required just revisit Tuchal’s sell out Vs Spain If you play in a Moyes manner You’ll get a Moyes result. As I said in Jan 2025 when he returned Moyes will be Moyes – why are you all suddenly surprised? He’s not going anywhere this side of new owners or a 17th /18th league position – maybe not even then.

Actually, 47 wins was much higher than I would have thought. Have a wee dram on me Mr. Moyes

I understand what you were originally saying Patric, possibly because I’ve been having similar feeling’s, more and more regularly for the last couple of years now.

These next two games against a team with similar troubles should show how Moyes can deal with adversity. He will of course make changes to rest up his faves for the Monday Prem. game. Either way the offensive problems will still be there.

Definitely the nucleus of a decent side David i agree. Im not giving up on Dibling either mate,add him and Pickford to the names you mentioned and thats 8. I would love to see them players playing under a manager like the Brighton,Bournemouth or Brentford managers. Must be horrible to be a young player full of himself and raring to express himself on the pitch,only to be restricted by a defense obsessed manager.

What a first half in the Barca ,Real game. The pace and movement is unbelievable. Top class football.

Hi Philip, I watched the documentary about Vinnie Jones yesterday. Wimbledon didn’t have any outstanding individual players back then, but they were a fighting team. Everyone knew their role and fought for the team. That’s the only way they could win the FA Cup. In my opinion, that would be our chance – to get into the game through fighting spirit. That also means playing dirty sometimes. And that every player has a fixed position in the team. That way we could compensate for a lot of the lack of quality.

Drives me mad this Moyes . Plays players out of position to accommodate his old slow favourites. Wastes young fresh fast legs on bench . Same bollocks week in week out now. Gollom needs to go back to lord of the rings and we need a Eddie Howe or id even take big Sam before gollom 😡

Why hasn’t Hackney been used . He should start . Moyes never has any bright ideas . I’ve lost interest in Everton nowadays . Only way to get it back is sack Moyes .Its taken it’s course now . Time for change.

It’s not rubbish mate. We need a quick sale if possible.

Then you adjust your plan accordingly? FWIW I don’t lay it all at Moyes’ door, Michael. I just don’t think he’s pulling his weight right now. The players aren’t incredible by any means.

Robert, of course I care. I was at the Chelsea game last week, making a 9-hour day of it including the travel. That’s for a home game! I watch every minute of every game, and take in all the content I can. I live and breathe the club. But can I bring myself to be as worried about it right now as I was a few years ago? There’s only so much we can go through before apathy sets in. That was, ultimately, the point. And in a way, that’s more worrying and dangerous, as I get the feeling that a lot of people are in the same boat. Perhaps I could have worded it better, absolutely, but it’s tough to bring yourself to care about this type of defeat when we’ve seen it all before. It doesn’t mean I don’t want it to be better. I very much do.

tony agree with most of your points but -soon to be new owners may be wishful thinking . no guarantee of a quick sale …any club outside the sky ‘big six’ cartel are not an attractive purchase …see the football boardroom -how difficult will it be to sell everton. i hope aj bell buy us and andy burnham revokes use of var… it’s risky calling the wonderful tfg carpetbaggers too as a couple of posters will disagree – they seem to take it as a personal insult !

An inability to sign players that will provide a balanced squad, that have genuine quality, class and threat. Scott, Rayan, Truffert, kroupi, Semenyo, huijsen, zabarnsyi, kerkez. All proper footballers. All playing in their true position, playing attacking football with energy. The sides are balanced, technical and have pace. Everyone delivers to their top of their ability, in roles theyre familiar with. They have a squad depth that embarrasses everton and united, and its been assembled for relative buttons. The structure is right at these clubs. And their owners care. They sell their better players, but they plan years ahead. We plan for nothing. One centre forward, no goals in the team, not a decent full back in the club. Bodged together. Who is going to die for the shirt? Who do the opposition fear?

But you posted 13/8 & 7/4 was available? In EVERY High St bookie? You refused a tip on the dogs. No hard feelings.i will give you a tip in light of your muddled posting. Put more bricks and mortar in your andy pandy.You are aggressive in drink. Cost you an Ayrton Senna if you want anymore tips. Youve made an absolute fool of yourself this evening,behaved in the manner of a spoilt schoolgirl. I’ll have to love you and leave you now. All the best

We have dropped to 11th. I may have to reassess my opinion we would be in the bottom 5 by December

5th last week 11th today. 1 point above spurs who we were laughing at. The way we are going they will be laughing at us unless our management sort things quickly.

What is stopping us doing a Bournemouth Ian? Who amongst us ever thought we would look up to Bournemouth as a club

Moyes can’t even find the fight to get involved in it

Toffeeweb, what is the criteria for a Best Comment? Fuck this format off and get it back to the way it used to be

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Brighton’s young coach isn’t so bad. Try to make a balanced argument, why don’t you?

The joke used to be that Moyes took a knife to a gunfight. These days, it’s a butter knife, nothing sharp. We’re a pretty mediocre outfit but until TFG chose to disown us, were were getting by, since then, it does not look good. Not quite as bad as the rudderless time when Moshiri was rabbit frozen and we were in stasis, but this is beginning to look a bit familiar.

Fair play that Rayan is a very good player, and the finish for the 3rd from evanlison was top draw. Fair play to him. A well run club. Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton just humble clubs like Everton & united. From top to bottom. The recruitment is well thought through, the squads have balance, hunger, technical ability and fight. Bournemouth played with style. Moved the ball, and had the right players in the right position. Did they cost a fortune? No, they weren’t. United a right back at left back, a kid at centre back that isnt good enough, a centre back at right back that struggles to justify his fee, harry maguire, a dud in mason mount, a struggling santos, tielemans cant run, and no centre forward. The relevance? Carrick is a good guy. But probably not good enough. Instead of backing him, he was left with the same back 4 that has failed the last 5 years. Centre forwards that werent good enough, and needing quality in centre midfield that weren’t the real deal.

I think about Harry Tyrer who was with Everton from the age of 7 until he left to join Cardiff City for an undisclosed fee the season before last, he played one game for Everton a pre-season game v Preston. In the time he was here he was sent on loan three or four times to non league times while we payed loan fees for ‘keepers who never stood out and rarely played due to us having Pickford— Tyrer left at the age of 24(?) but never got a chance, even as an understudy, for his own club. Everton work in strange ways sometimes.

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Bring back SEAMUS ha ha

he match has already been played. Arsenal beat Everton 2-0 on Saturday, 24th October 2026. Because the game is over, live betting odds are no longer available. However, for context on how the bet settled: Arsenal did score in both halves. Ezri Konsa scored in the 7th minute of the first half, and Gabriel Magalhães added a second in the 68th minute of the second half. Prior to kick-off, the closing price for “Arsenal to score in both halves” was boosted to 11/8 (from 5/4) at Coral’s sister site, Ladbrokes 😁

The worst manager we’ve ever had . And that includes mike walker

Someone like michael carrick pau,l he will finish us off. Any clues who buy football clubs ASAP i think not . Why post rubbish like that

I don’t subscribe to the “oh its everton, it’s the way it is” We’ve got some good players that need galvanising, a new approach, new ideas, a tactical approach that uses the skills they have. Modern players are used to flexibility, fluid interchangeable positioning and systems, different styles for different oppositions. That’s the modern game. Other teams would love a KDH, Garner, Grealish, Hackney,George & Branthwaite, they play better football with worse footballers That’s tactics, coaching, approach, gameplan and it’s on the manager I my view. I’m not just slating moyes for the fun of it, and take no joy in our position, he’s probably going nowhere, we have to deal with this until at least January, if it continues in this way it’s going to be a long tough season

Watching Leeds Vs Sunderland reminded me of watching Newcastle Vs Norwich in the Rafa era, wanting a Norwich win to keep Newcastle at the foot of the table. We shouldn’t be looking over our shoulder, but the parallels with that year are getting to be ominous.

Could be worse could be Man U

Grealish and branthwaite played last week..same result

The whole Garner love in leaves me gob smacked. Never scores, never assists, doesn’t shoot. Runs around making last ditch slide tackles because his man has run past him. Not for me, sorry.

Its quite simple really…the lack of quality in our squad…we can bang on about dibling and george not playing..but even they are just bang average ..lets hope and pray lads ..and girls

Nothing like being in a rut to begin with, then sitting your best player as some dumb “punishment”. Who did it hurt, but your own team. Un-fun Facts, mid-fielder signings, the 19-20 season: United – £45 million on Fernandez. Everton – £97 on Gomes, Delph, Gbamin, Iwobi, and Henry Onyekuru (Who wasn’t eligible for a work permit).

They’re going to have to show up against Newcastle. This sustained shite can’t continue. The shit house has to make changes or it’ll turn very toxic.

When TFG bought us from day one they must have planned to sell us within two years. Stick Moyes in to keep us in the league, hoover up the TV money and transfer fees and then do one. Fit and proper ownership tests from the Premier League should require a minium of 5 years before a club can be sold on.