I can’t reply to your other question John, because it doesn’t say reply, underneath, but I was personally okay with Andy Burnham’s words because I have been saying that I believe every single politician, has been corrupted by the money men, and that’s why I thought he let his guard down. The Manchester City, owners have obviously done a great deal for the city of Manchester, and Mr Burnham, just replied a little bit to honestly, imo John. Nothing about the thousands of people who buy tickets every week to watch a competition that has been getting won by alleged cheating, just a statement using the words, “I hope they don’t leave”. Burnham, did well for the hillsborough victims and i respect him for that, but I no longer respect Politicians, because my own views are that they have all been bought by someone, unfortunately.

It was just a practice game, it would be interesting to see what sort of squad played for Blackburn, nice to see Nsangou score that goal though and Jack escaping from the touchline, hopefully he can do it in a real game now and again.

Appreciate a friendly, but no one will be surprised by a central defence collapse of those 2 when together.

21 points a season over 10 years – equal to the initial deduction we were given. I posted a longer rant about this on another thread but the above would be the same penalty we got.

Tarkowski has a tendency to drop-off over a season – he’s good to begin with but fades later on when he plays every game. I would keep and play O’Brien at times to give Tark a break. Especially later in the season.

We need to sue the shit out of City, ala Burnley. If we’d made Europe those seasons, the extra revenue would have meant we didn’t breach PSR, didn’t get points deducted and didn’t get sued by Burnley which cost us £30m. I would argue it was a direct consequence of City cheating that affected Everton. Let’s not forget, we complied with the process and breached PSR through no foul-play and no fault of our own, whereas City have consistently cheated over a 10 year period and hidden it. We got an initial 12 point deduction for 2 breaches of PSR – my understanding is City have 35 breaches of PSR = 210 points by the same metric. Ideally this would (in my view) be applied over say 10 seasons (given this is how long they cheated for), so a 21 point deduction every year for 10 years which would see them battling relegation every year. A punishment to fit the crime.

I think “2 Viewing” is just the number looking at this thread, John. You and me!!! Haha. Happily, there’s a lot more looking at the football related stuff. I doubt that going back to the old system is even an option, to be honest. I can’t be sure but I suspect it was all built by Lyndon himself, and thus a pain for anyone else to maintain or modify. This way, we are supposedly using a dedicated software application to meet a specific need… but as seems the case, it’s just not what we’re used to, and it refuses so far to be modified to meet *our* needs. I think both Harry and I are as annoyed and frustrated by this as any of you, but we are at least talking to the people at Arena to see if we can get changes implemented. It really shouldn’t need to be this hard. Perhaps the price you pay for not having to navigate the utter shite that algorithms decide to jam into any thread I try and read on X or Facebook.

Also, Brian, the Comments count shown above includes *all* the replies — which are of course hidden unless you click on each ‘Show x more replies’. Now the feed we used to create the Recent Reader Comments pages also does not differentiate between a Comment and a Reply; they are all Comments (as per the count) which is a real pain when it comes to trying to find a specific Comment that is in fact a hidden reply somewhere on the thread. I’ve asked them to (a) increase the number of comments showing by default; (b) Include a ‘Show all Comments’ button; and (c) Include a “Show all Comments and Replies” button. Showing just 6 comments initially is simply ridiculous and extremely annoying.

Hi Brian, some great questions. Firstly. the Recent Comments is, sad to report, not perfect. It should be good when you open it up, but a few of the most recent posts may not have made it on there yet. And then, while you’re off browsing through the comments on the threads that appeal to you, it would be oh so nice if the page updated itself in real time. Simples? …. But it doesn’t. If you manually refresh it, that might show a few more that have been posted… but it might not be absolutely all of them. Seems that there will always be a discrepancy between the comments actually on each thread and the ones showing on the Recent Reader Comments page. My advice: whenever you go back to Recent Reader Comments, refresh the page. This should help. Second, and no-one seems to have spotted this: the timestamp on the each comment is wrong: 1 hour out! So showing GMT rather than BST! I would be tearing my haiir out at this point, if I had any…

Brian H. Only comments made using the comment box appear on the main thread. You can however also respond using the Reply option at the bottom of each posted comment but these comments don’t appear on the main thread and can only be accessed using the Show Reply option which then becomes available.

I guess that would be too simple and old-school, Eric: “in the box”, which is 18 x 44 yards (somewhat less in meters). That got me thinking… Back to this “20-m radius” — so that extends out to 20 m in front of goal; let’s call that the top of the dee. And 20 m away from each post along the goaline, or ~47 m measured along the goalline, including the goalmouth itself. So a bit wider than the penalty area. Now the corner of the penalty area forms an 18-yard isosceles triangle (not many people know that!), 18 yards along the goal line from the post. Bit more maths A-Level required here… my old mate Pythagoras: he says “Take the square root of 18² + 18²”, errr…. which gives us a distance of about 25½ yards from each goalpost, at an angle of exactly 45° incidentally. Ergo, your “deep completion” zone is really very similar to the penalty area — just a little bit bigger and a funny shape. Thank You, Calday Grange Grammar School!!

How come I cant see all of the 43 comments listed against this post. Am I doing something wrong.

Guys nice to see you have restored recent comments but how come I can only see 12 of the 43 comments and none of the last ones on recent comments.

Yeah, it has to be very discouraging for the lad, but sooner or later some manager will believe in him and deploy him to great effect. I just fear it won’t be any Everton manager.

Really? He must have been well past retiring age by then or maybe he just looked old when he was younger— nevertheless he was a very likeable character when he taught me and I enjoyed his lessons especially the laughs during them!

I have to disagree Tony. Hes a good man and dedicated politician. If EVERY politician is bent we may as well close the country. His dedication to the Hillsborough campaign saw the changes the grieving families needed to progress . What words of his did you not like mate

That £28M was spent on an injury prone past his best Yerry Mina not a new one!

us and Andy wanting to rejoin the EU. We will then have far more German and French electric ones. And don’t you just hate the maximum number of characters on the new system. Only happened since he became PM. So that is one worse thing under his watch. And if you don’t see that as tongue in cheek, then you need a humour implant.

Are you old enough to remember British Rail?? Dirty and late and awful customer service. £500m subsidies from government (£3,3bn today) for 800m passengers compared to 1830m today. Negatives now is overcrowding because there numbers have grown over the years and lack of joined up fares. Blue Flag beaches came in 1987 and we had 12 Blue Flag beaches. Water Privatised in 1989 and we now have 81. Sewage was worse under public ownership. Bit of rose tinted nostalgia from our Blue Andy. Problem was the desire of people in this country for a quick buck. We all bought shares in BT, Electricity, Water, Gas, BA and when there was a profit to be made we sold the shares and spent it. Then the companies sold out to foreign companies for another quick buck. Same with everything – we have no loyalty to our home made stuff but will always buy the cheapest so that is why China now earns so much from us. Check how many electric cars in France and Germany come from China (as a percentage) compared to

Re the bottom line of your post was helpful but still tedious going to and fro and you have to use use that code every time you want that information—technology should be faster than that!

I’m just reading that apparently, “the Welsh international has struggled to match the expectations he arrived with. “He’s featured in all five of the Toffees’ league games so far this term, only three of which were starts, with his stats showcasing his struggles within attacking areas. “Johnson has failed to register a single goal or assist during such a period — even failing to direct any of his four shots on target so far this campaign. “His lack of aggression and desire to get past an opponent has also been called into question, which has only seen him complete 0.3 of the dribbles he’s attempted this term. “Such a record has seen him rank in the bottom 15% of all attackers in the Premier League, subsequently demonstrating the tricky start he’s endured to life on Merseyside.” Hard to argue with much of that.

I don’t know enough about him John, but my guess would be yes, he his probably corrupt, basing it on my overall view of politics and politicians in general mate. For the good of the nation hopefully he proves me wrong, but getting back to the football, it’s an emotional game and regarding Manchester City, Mr Burnham, chose his words wrong imo.

Same here Mike, its tough coming into the PL first season but its obvious hes put the work in over the summer and he looks like hes coming to terms with leading the line, his hold up play has improved no end

This is blatant corruption, where does it end,Fight back Everton, we are a top four club ( historically) yes at present but with the right owners preferably ones with great intelligence, Everton can claw there way back to that top table we have always sat, I always felt they were leaving it late to do this but do it NOW Everton 💙

Northern Ireland manager Michael O’Neill has told everyone: “Braiden’s a very talented player; a very technical player; a great finisher. “I’ve watched him a lot. We’ve watched Braiden since he was young. I’ve seen him from 14 or 15. “What he has shown us in training is a real high technical level and the ability to stick the ball in the net.” But that’s not good enough to get him a debut, even when they are 3-up against 10 men? Oh, I suppose they didn’t need him to “stick the ball in the net” then, so that’s why he doesn’t get a chance. ONeill and Moyes are just the same. All talk and no substance.

Michael it looks like I’ll have to go to “ night school “ to learn how to use Toffeeweb under these new operators when it was so easy to use before even for technical dunces like me!

Hes got off to a good start Bob. Plans to take energy provision,water and the trains back into nationalised ownership is a step in the right direction.

Tony, Your not suggesting Andy is bent are you?

Morning Michael. Frustrating mate,perseverance required. I preferred the old system. Hopefully not as it will dilute the ongoing chats,i think the site will lose posters if it continues in its present format. The 4 viewing at the top is indicative.

Thanks Eric

Eric, I’ve had that frustration trying to find comments that are actually nested replies… Since the nested replies are limited to just two levels, I would suggest not using them and instead doing this — reply in the main thread, so it least it can be seen on first scan. I don’t know if the solution is to have no replies as such. What would you think of that? It would be a step back to how it was — if only we could get Oldest first sorted.

Yes Mike. The simplicity of the old threads made it so much easier. It’s fragmented one big conversation into 50 little ones .

We all know that the rules have been unfair but this doesn’t sound like it was just cheating, it sounds like it was categorically taking the piss, with no regard whatsoever for the competition. If Everton are Forest, both lost points, then looking at the scale of their deception, how can City, not get relegated? If City, aren’t dealt with properly, although I don’t believe it would It happen, but I think if every single fan just decided to boycott every stadium, we as football fans, might just start to regain a little bit of respect back. Kick off times changed at a whim, prices going up all the time, and all to watch a competition that has been getting won by cheats? Burnham let his guard down, Burnham just confirmed what a few of us already know. Politicians have been getting bought for years.

Dont forget ‘Mr Manchester’s’ alleged ‘very good’ relationship with City’s owners and all the ‘good work’ they’ve done for the ‘local community’ – spelt…V, O, T, E, R, S, allegedly

Respectfully disagree. Guy looks transformed this season. 5 goals pretty good return and he will start taking some of these chances he is missing. Could be a 15+ goal season?

The new Recent Comments list of 50 comments is great, pity the comments can’t be found as they’re nested.

Not your fault Paul, it’s this new system.

Si, I was taking the complete area of the circle, not the semi circle! but why not just simply say ‘in the box’? Dave, yes, that Uncle Paddy, he was still going strong in 1975 when he taught me A level maths.

It sounds very much like the in-house IT bods couldn’t fix the problems they had (created?) and bought an off the shelf system which it turns out is not fit for purpose.

Doesn’t work on any of my ‘phones Michael, the pop up immediately disappears.

What Steve means Jeff is City won their case against EFL regarding APT, and our Usmanov links are covered by that.

And you can’t reply to the last nested comment.

Albo is busy digging himself and the Country deeper in the shit, like Starmer was, I don’t think there is an Andy Burnham in his party to bail them out. Theyre Dead Men walking mate and when that happens…and they realise it…if they ever do, 3 things can happen. 1) all the back benchers suddenly realise their soft jobs are in danger and stage a coup. 2) All the high ups try to sort themselves another job – like Albo did in the US recently. 3)when the sack really looms, they tryto trot out all sorts of rubbish policies from the Idealogical wish list efore they fi ally get the push. If he doesn’t quit before his own supporters roll him, I reckon he’ll go for an early election by Sept 2027 and try to salvage what little he can before Pauline creams him.

How is Andy Burnham performing in these early weeks as PM? We (Aussies) have a labor government in its 2nd term and they are freakin’ useless (IMO). I hope Andy/UK Govt don’t give in to pressure from UAE ………..but he will be between a rock and a hard place, I suppose!. Nigh on 30m pounds Patric lost as direct costs but what about lost opportunity costs?

Have you spoken with any City fans about that?

The article mentions only Hill Dickinson Stadium as a revenue generator for Everton’s future. It is one of two, and in the long term much the smaller of the two at the quoted £60M–£80M annually. The other would be worldwide commercial revenue, to be generated by sponsorships and partnerships (like our new deals with Pepsi and Budweiser) and merchandising (of which Everton does very little). That’s where the bulk of the growth must come from if the club is to double or triple its revenues in coming years to move into the SCR realm of Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal.

NFL? Poor comparison. NFL is a franchise model. In the last 20 years, 13 different teams have won the Super Bowl. And nobody gets relegated.

It’s not worth the trouble, David. You can’t just scroll down and read the comments in chronological order anymore. Now you have to click on “show more replies” to open up the replies to each comment, and then try to juggle what order they were posted in. It’s a pain in the ass.

front line means Barry from eastenders . .

Hopefully with more experience some of that ‘quantity’ will e exchanged for ‘quality’