Moyes's next step was to get the squad age down, get rid of the deadwood and make Everton a top 10 team which he did, even one year breaking into the top 4!! Fans hopes were raised behond belief, Moyes was untouchable and to some extent he still is.
We knew at the time we were in a false position when we finished 4th, we didn't play like a top 4 team, it was a defensive setup, to nick a goal when we could, and strangle the game to hold out for the win which we was the best in the league at.
Over those first 4 years Moyes had, I was happy with what he was doing as we were progressing most years, but the football was dire to watch!! I can remember a number of articles from fans including myself calling for pass-and-move football; now Moyes has given us that even if we lack penetration in the final third, at the moment.
I bet you are reading this thinking this is a Moyes apoligist at his best!! Well, I'm not. I believe Everton fans have become fickle, sack moyes get rid of Pienaar, Cahill, Bily, Johnny, Jags, Distin, Osman, Arteta, Yakubu... Moyes is too negative, tactics, substitutions etc etc ? I hear these things week-in, week-out on this site and others.
I understand that Moyes has won nothing and that at times he is too cautious, but tell me a manger that has won something with no money for past three summers!!! Some will point to his signings Bily, Johnny, and why he plays players out of position etc, I can understand the fans having a go, every fan has their own beliefs on how we should play and who should be picked, but let's put things into perspective.
If every fan was honest they would agree that the football has improved, it's more pass-and-move than hoof hoof what it used to be a few years back. We bemoan that we can't score but Moyes will get it right, he has got nearly everything right since he has been here, fans calling for his head is ridiculous.
Personally I want to see Moyes with a proper summer transfer kitty for a few seasons to see how he would handle it before chopping him. Fans have short memories, I can remember when we signed Mikey to a new 5-year contract and across the internet it was hailed as the best bit of business done by the club in years!! All of a sudden Mikey is crap, he can't cross or passes sideways too much! Get a grip, people, he will come good ? just like Moyes will.
I just hope the fans stop being so fickle and get behind the team for a change, unlike that morgue atmosphere at Goodison last week!! We are in danger of being classed as the fickle lot across the park... we are better than that ? we are EVERTON!
COYB
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I agree with Brian (#5) ? no-one can be arsed anymore. Can anyone suggest anything to get us l out of our lethargy?
Apart from that, I totally agree with you. Would love to see Moyes given a transfer kitty that was comparable with absolutely anyone else in the Premier League.
I was lucky enough to see Everton under Harry Catterick and had a season ticket in the eighties. Perhaps that is why I am so critical now.
If David Moyes had £80 million to spend in the summer, what would happen? In my view, I'd rather see someone else spend it. I believe he is set in his ways. A fine manager but not a great one. He'll keep us safe; no more, no less. Is that enough? It disappoints me that, for many Evertonians, it is.
You can sit waiting and wondering which player will fuck up first, with most of the players not wanting to balls up Moyes's gameplan. I seem to be watching a process of sideways passing that the opposition could not give two fucks about ? they just wait, give it five minutes and someone in blue will give the ball away. Lastly, most the players do not generate or want feedback from the crowd. They just seem to play like robots, not stepping out of position or doing something that's either different or not required ? like fucking shooting at the goal!!! For me, the supporters have been feeling this negativity for many years and hey presto "no atmosphere".But back to the footy... and for this season we won't go down, we won't win a cup, and we definitely won't qualify for a CL place. Additionally, we won't get hammered, Goodison will be a tough place to come, we won't score many goals... and lastly, no-one will give a fuck.
However, I've come to the conclusion that he is not a winner & I don't believe that would change with increased transfer funds. We won't win anything while he is manager.
Nontheless, he is not our greatest problem ? the Board is.
I could go on and on... but the fact is away fans always, without exception out-sing, out-shout etc the home fans for one simple reason: away fans are a hardcore version of a football supporter. Our away support turns up in numbers everywhere and consistently takes the piss, I'd say we probably have the best away support in the league ? something that fans of other sides have said to me on numerous occasions, although Man Utd also have a very big away following.On Moyes, I'm a bit stuck on what I want to happen. There are times usually when we are getting beat by shite sides like Bolton when I think he's lost his drive and the players no longer respond to him. Other times, I'm thinking is it reasonable to expect more within the glaringly obvious constraints forced upon him?I think another season where our poor start costs us should see him go as he has form for making the same error more than once. The attacking style he's going for has to a degree cost us some defensive solidity, regardless of what the stats say, and this was his strength as a manager in a footballing sense. If we were to lose this, I'd want to see the back of him.
Then you look toward the attack. That's why Moyes was really upset about loosing Lescott, because he knew how important he was to the shape at the back. We have never recovered from that loss.
Moyes feels unsafe to move forward too much with his dodgy defense. The midfield are pulled too far back to cover, and thus we have a lack of attack. Mikel is not operating in his most dangerous role etc etc.We are second tier at the moment and cannot attract a top class manager. Oh, well... my wife is not Miss England, but I love her anyway.
The upshot is, you need coin... and lots off it!! Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal (not won anything in 5-plus years, but they ain't spent much) ... between these three, they have dominated the Premier League years... the reason ? they have spent big! Man City are due to break this mould... the reason ? they have spent big!!We aint gonna win the league under DM, but that's not down to him being a bad manager ? that's down to other clubs spending more money!This is the best squad we've had in 20 years... name a better one? Moyes will get it right .. starting with 3 points tomorrow!IMWT
Unfortunately, as a paying customer, don't expect me to scream the rafters down if I'm not getting my money's worth. If it's shit, I'll let them know it's shit ? and have every right to do so.
Admittedly the forwards aren't doing it at the the moment, but Moyes knows that more than anyone. Do you really think he would not have loved to sign a £20 million plus striker in the summer? Of course he would! And while your telling me which Everton Squad has been better in the last 20 years, tell me who you would replace Moyes with??IMWT
Come to that, how much moire time does Moyes need before he admits that either his tactic of having a lone striker does not work or the players he has at his disposal are incapable of making it work?
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