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Everton News, Season 2011-12

Big Dunc is looking forward, not back

29/05/2012 |  27 Comments: First  |  Last
?I'm 40 now. I've three kids, a wife, I'm settled. Do people honestly think I haven't changed?

?People look at me now and what they see is what they remember — a baby, a young kid.

?You would always change things if you could turn back the clock — but who can do that?

?I miss the game, I miss it something terrible. I moved abroad for five years with the family and it was alright for a year, you can live with that.

?Then the grind sets in and you realise you're effectively retired but still young.

?In the end though, you have to go out and start working. I've got three kids and a wife, I need to provide for them.

?You come out of football at 34 years and think you're old — you feel it. You think ?this is the end'. That you're going to go and lie in a deckchair for the rest of your days.

?Then you suddenly twig that you have your whole life ahead of you. I need to get back to work, get motivated and do something with myself. That's what I'm here for, to find out if I have it in me.

?People who say things about me don't know the first thing about me. It's a perception thing.

?You just move on in your life, don't you? I can hardly remember back then, seriously. You're talking about all the things that happened when I was younger.

?You're a young man at 17, 18, right? You do crazy things. That's what you do when you're young. Everyone does.

?Is it out of my system? It is. That's what happens in Scotland though, eh? They look at me now and what they see is what they remember — a kid at 19 or 20 years. I've got the kids, I've got perspective on my life. That young man has gone.

?I've had an unbelievable career, I'm blessed that I played as long as I did, considering the operations I've had, and I stayed at the top right to the end. I stopped at Everton, the club I wanted to stop at — it was fantastic.

?I played at the very top. Captained teams under loads of managers. Look at the names — Sir Bobby, Howard Kendall, Joe Royle, Ruud Gullit. You're talking about guys who have won European Cups, gone the distance in World Cups, won every domestic trophy.

?Then there's the Scottish guys like Moyes, Walter Smith and Jim McLean in my early days — how many people have a list of experiences like that to call on?

?If I can't use the knowledge I've picked up from all these great guys, there's something wrong with me.

?If people still want to see the same boy they saw in the past, that's up to them. There's nothing I can do about that. People are reminiscing about things that happened 20-odd years ago. These days are gone. Of course I could have done things differently — but experience comes with age, doesn't it?

?I don't look back with regret, I just accept that I'm here and still learning.?

Original Source: Liverpool Daily Post

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David Bryant
286   Posted 29/05/2012 at 16:34:26

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I really, really, REALLY hope he is one day good enough to be Everton manager. He seems to have screwed the nut and ex-Everton is as good a way to bring success as any other we've had (Kendall Mk 1, Royle).

He 'gets' Everton and Evertonians too ? can't see him taking three beatings off the RS in a season. He also has the 'big game' mentality ? he must have scored more than most against United?
Colin Potter
290   Posted 29/05/2012 at 17:27:13

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Your'e so right, Duncan, people never forget the wrong things that happen. I had a fight over Everton 7 years ago and it;s never been forgotten by some people. I was 66 at the time, and people still talk about it, they don't realise I've matured since then. (I could have been a contender...)
Stephen Kenny
292   Posted 29/05/2012 at 17:44:16

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To me it seems inevitable that he will lead us again at some point. I can't wait for it to be honest. If he's good enough as a man manager and tactician then theres nobody on earth I'd rather see in charge.

My favourite Evertonian of all time and I can't see it ever changing.

Terry Hayes
294   Posted 29/05/2012 at 17:57:20

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Cheers, Duncan, great read and proves what I already knew: you're a top bloke and true blue... but why the hell did I end up reading it in a Morgan Freeman accent?
Bob Willis
298   Posted 29/05/2012 at 18:50:04

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'My favourite Evertonian of all time '

What a load of bollocks!

Eugene Ruane
299   Posted 29/05/2012 at 18:41:53

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I remember Andy King talking about retirement.

Strange thing for these fellers who have been in various teams since they were 12 or so

He said he was 38 before it finally dawned on him that there was no more 'the lads'.

He said when he finished, he couldn't pay a leccy bill, (didn't have a clue how) or book a taxi.

Even in his era of not crazy money, players at big clubs (yeah we were then!) it seems were looked after, so they just had to deal with the football.

Duncan I imagine made a packet but as he says, what are you supposed to do with yourself?

Being from an era that gave me Alan Ball to hero worship, I was never (like many younger blues) in awe of Duncan and when he was playing, there were many times I thought/said "You fucking idiot, what the fuck did you do THAT for!?"

However, I think in what he says and HOW he says it, he shows REAL growth (particularly the last line)

Consequently, I surprise myself by saying, I think he actually COULD make a real go of coaching.

Andrew Lawrenson
301   Posted 29/05/2012 at 18:59:11

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Mr Willis at No: 298 why are you pouring scorn on the gentleman's opinion? If he says that Dunc is his Evertonion player of all time, who are you to knock it? With a name like yours you should be watching cricket.

Anyway, he is in my all time top 3, if people read my comments and how I hate the thug from over the park they could possibly say I am hypocritical that I don't condone Dunc's behavior on the pitch, but the thing is Dunc never tried to deflect the blame or hid away from his actions.

I don't know if ever he will make the grade in management but one thing's for sure: he will be a character on the touchline and I would welcome him with open arms to the first-team coaching staff.

Paul Gladwell
302   Posted 29/05/2012 at 19:12:04

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Bob, why is that bollocks? Everyone has their own favorites and I would put him up their with my favorites too, if not my favourite.

I used too love Andy King until I met him and watched his attitude at a legend do and that ruined everything I thought of the man. A favorite Evertonian does not have to come with the medals, as some Evertonians have never seen players who have won medals.
Brian Denton
307   Posted 29/05/2012 at 19:40:47

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Mr Willis, you can't tell a bloke who his personal favourite should or shouldn't be! If anyone was asserting that Duncan was the best Everton player of all time, that would be a different matter. But they're not. It's like rubbishing me for saying that my favourite meal is steak and chips.
Dennis Stevens
311   Posted 29/05/2012 at 19:57:32

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Steak & chips, Brian? That's so '70's!
Stephen Kenny
313   Posted 29/05/2012 at 20:05:39

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Why is it?

I know he's not our greatest, probably wouldn't even be in the top 50 if were honest. I also had times when I thought "Why has he just done that" and had a major cob on because he'd cost us a game by chinning someone, but the fact he genuinely did 'spark' them is part of the reason why.

I hate it when footballers act like women, crying to the ref over a bit of contact and I hate Pseudo hardcases like Barton. Big Dunc was proper in every sense of the word.

He was the most intimidating character that the PL will ever see and he was the one player you knew was never ever going to bow down to the opposition the way we saw recently at Wembley.

Whether you like ot or not he's the man my generation have cannonized and we will still talk about him in 30, 40 years time because no other player will ever rip his top off and wheel away kissing his Everton tattoo (perhaps the most copied thing in the history of Evertonia) after burying another boss goal in my lifetime.

David Bryant
314   Posted 29/05/2012 at 20:17:14

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Stephen @ 313 - agree entirely. For about - what? - 7/8 years, there was sod all else to cheer, and there was nothing quite like a Big Dunc goal at Goodison to lift the crowd. We've seen more (relative) success since, and arguably better and certainly more prolific scorers since Dunc, but for that era, he provided rare hope and joy when it was otherwise in short supply.
Andrew Gilbert
315   Posted 29/05/2012 at 20:27:47

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David (314)

Spot on mate, we had virtually nothing then but the Big man. (and the other big man..Joe R.)

David Bryant
316   Posted 29/05/2012 at 20:42:10

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We had some very decent players back then ? Limpar, Kanchelskis, Watson, Hinchcliffe amongst others. Probably as many stand-out players as now. Royle won a trophy, then dropped like a stone. Moyes hasn't got the trophy but a load of Top 10 finishes. Reckon Royle could have won some serious silverware with Moyes's team!
Eugene Ruane
317   Posted 29/05/2012 at 20:23:57

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Paul (302) You say..

"I used too love Andy King until I met him and watched his attitude at a legend do and that ruined everything I thought of the man".

Well...they say never meet your heroes.

Me and a (blue) mate saw The Dome signing books a couple of Christmases ago in the Waterstones (or whatever) in Speke.

The books were some shite Everton stocking-fillers for a fiver but we thought, there's a Legend, no queue, let's go!

Long story short, he was incredibly miserable and narky and for a moment I genuinely thought my mate (a big feller) was going drag him over the table.

He looked like he'd had a fucking skinful the night before, didn't want to be there and (like a spoilt kid) wasn't going to hide the fact.

Will always love the man but imo, the dinners, the bevvies and the back-slappers have done him no favours.

At the age he was when he came back from Spain, he could/should imo have gone on to achieve so much more.

Brian Denton
318   Posted 29/05/2012 at 21:14:46

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Dennis (311) Well, I thought bream in fennel sauce would bugger my street cred....
Bob Willis
323   Posted 29/05/2012 at 22:04:14

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Well I seem to have annoyed one or two people on here tonight.
Sorry about that.

Stephen Kenny 's all time favourite appears to be Big Dunc ok if that's so, so be it.

Stephen and I are obviously not talking about the same timeframe and perhaps I should not have 'bollocked' his choice.

BUT as far as being Everton's all time great I say bollocks - back to my pigeons!

Andy Crooks
328   Posted 29/05/2012 at 22:29:04

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Good stuff, learning from mistakes, maturing and changing. It's honestly difficult imagining Joey Barton doing the same.
Stephen Kenny
331   Posted 29/05/2012 at 22:38:49

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I don't think he's anywhere near our greatest, just my personal favourite.

Steve Smith
336   Posted 29/05/2012 at 22:36:29

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Colin Potter #290 Laugh out loud moment for me, thank you.

I can understand why big Dunc is a hero to a lot of our supporters, he is to me, but if you were picking an all time eleven, he wouldn't be anywhere near it. Having said that, I love the bloke, and those who say never meet your heroes, don't worry about it with this one, I've met him twice and he didn't disappoint.
Ray Roche
337   Posted 29/05/2012 at 22:52:09

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If the "Dome" is HK then I agree totally. I made the mistake of going to a sportsman's dinner where he was the main speaker. What a crushing disappointment! I wouls sooner have put the £25 down the drain and remembered on of my heroes as a great player and manager than the... I'd better leave it there.

However, I was lucky enought meet my all time hero, Alex Young, at a book signing in the church hall a few years ago. What a man. Quiet, modest and self-effacing, he appeared genuinely appreciative of my thanks for all the pleasure he'd brought to us fans. A true gentleman and a real legend.

Phil Roberts
366   Posted 30/05/2012 at 08:28:18

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Good article and superb maturity. I'm 57 and just finished being employed and being paid my pension but there is no way I can stop working be it voluntary stuff I couldn't do when I was working or paid stuff on a part time basis.

To say what he says is testimony to the maturity that Duncan has at 40 that he didn't have when he was 20 or 25 or even 30.

Hope he enjoys his second career and when he stops enjoying it, goes back to those deckchairs and pigeons, but only then.

P.S. Got a great photo of him with my two kids back in 1998 when they were chosen for a Bellfield experience - brilliant person.

Robbie Muldoon
397   Posted 30/05/2012 at 12:45:42

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He is definitely going to be a manager. Whether he will be any good or not is anybody's guess.

As far as background and passion for the club goes, there is no better fit out there. From what I've heard from him recently he seems a very grounded man who wants to get to the very top in a way he was unable to as a player. As he points out, he was captained by some of the game's great managers so they knew he had the leadership qualities.

I personally hope he is Everton manager one day soon, the Red shite won't know what has hit them!

Michael Summers
398   Posted 30/05/2012 at 13:15:59

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Duncan Ferguson is an Everton legend. He might've had his problems when younger but you hear the way he talks about Everton and the club, you know he us one of us and how much he loves Everton.

I for one would love him to manage us today and do a job like Kendall and Royle; people might pour scorn on this but I really think he would get the best out of the players ? Who else could demand and get the respect of his team? ? and what a motivator he would be.

Just a message for Mr Willis why mock another fan over his Everton hero? Show some respect. I bet you have a hero too.
Martin Mason
404   Posted 30/05/2012 at 13:40:16

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Eugene, I agree, it's been very difficult to enthuse over much that's happened at Everton since seeing the magnificent Alan Ball at his best. I'm sorry to say that I never rated Duncan as anything special apart from his all action always giving his best style of play. Against anything but top defenders he could be unplayable, against top defenders he was often easily played out of games. He'll always be an Everton legend because we like players who patently have the club at heart; both Alan Ball and Duncan were Everton to the core
Tony J Williams
405   Posted 30/05/2012 at 13:49:18

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"the Red shite won't know what has hit them!" - Probably Duncan's forehead!!!
Peter Warren
646   Posted 31/05/2012 at 21:55:36

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Love big Dunc he s just ace

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