From my seat: Wigan (H)

Credit to Wigan, they played well and crucially they didnt sit back when they took the lead they kept playing and kept looking to put the game to bed.

Too many simply gave up especially Fellaini, Moyes was right to hook him off.

Another great chance of a trophy missed, I'm glad I'm old enough to remember the great teams of !970 and 1984 'cos I'm beginning to accept those days are not likely to be repeated in my lifetime.

Who calls the shots at Everton FC?
The acid test is does the board have a greater ambition that a now stale-looking, one dimensional, manager?

Withdraw the contract offer, let him see things out to the end of the season.
In the meantime, start the search for the next manager and get him on board as soon as the season ends.

Most of us know boys pen billy won't sack him, some of us even suspect that he can't sack him being only the puppet / figurehead for the faceless ones Earl and Green.

Leeds in slow motion.

I am getting really fed up with this. The team looked as if they were sent out without any enthusiasm today. Why play such a cautious approach against year on year relegation fodder? Moyes has to go even if he has no offers.
Adkins In.

Nothing will happen after this result. We will still have the same manager and the same owner.

Very disappointing!

113 days at circa £9k a day – just over a million reasons for Moyes to see out his contract.

"DM sees them in training every day" would go the shout. "They're obviously not good enough". Then it dawned on me (slow on the uptake, I know), to play a youngster requires balls, needs a steely nerve. If Moyes had of included Barkley and Duffy from the start, today, it would have been on his head. If it had gone wrong, he would have had to shoulder the blame and try to justify his selection. No such worries when you include a number of international players, a world cup finalist and an ex-utd, champions league winner. Then they have to take some of the flak, whether injured, out of form, not interested, on holiday, or finished, they are like a shield for Moyes.

David Moyes was a shithouse today, as were many of the players. You were right Tony.

KITAHTKO is his mantra, and keep fooling anyone outside Goodison he is a football genius. He has assembled a highly paid defensive unit, who can win him enough games to keep us chasing the top six places.

When you think about it, it's fucking brilliant - look at his reputation, he has fooled 90% of the footballing world, and is only found out when there actually something to play for. He is always exposed in big games, it's written off because other teams have more money.

I think this in itself led to my defensive attitude towards Moyes. Things have changed over the past few months.

So Plan B is possesion in our own half with side and back passes then hoofball.

Hang on. There not the old Mike Walker ones are they? If they are I've already got one. And I'm a sergeant, FFS.

Perhaps now the ginger Presbyterian gump and ace-at-finger-pointing-and-clapping Captain Fantastic will spend the Sabbath day in long bouts of punishing introspective self-reflection and examination and do the decent thing.

I've never heard anything remotely like that in the time of Moyes. Boos like bombs. I have a hunch that Moyes will resign this week or the one after – resign not re-sign, if you see what I mean. He needs a break. He's clearly unhappy. And we need rid to move on, hopefully with someone who will need to learn English.

It was a funny old ride at times, hey, Mr Moyes, ups-and-downs, the odd roller-coaster ride, smiles and tears but quite honestly heavy lumps of frustration and exasperation for the most part. Take yer sheepskin coat with ya and the Ultravox and Tears for Fears CDs and ya centre-back book of footie tactics. It will be funny somehow not having you around but go.

"Centre half is the hardest position. I'd worry more about playing a young centre half than a young goalkeeper."

So that`s why we never see Duffy – just how old will he have to be?

"We've got a brilliant chairman and my relationship with Bill Kenwright is really good. Bill would like to sell but only if it was an offer that would take the club forward."

Or he might have said, "He pays me a king's ransom to harvest 40 points a year and then say what a good bloke he is."

Now I`m turning the lights out!

The January transfer window ended our club's last hope of CL football and was the beginning of the end for Moyes; his era is over, better go sooner than stay and leave a bitter legacy. He can offer nothing more to Everton.

If this is to do with the board and Moyes not coming to terms with his contract offer, then I say, put up or shut up but don't ruin this club for the supporters, many of whom dig very deep in to their pockets eek in and week out in order to watch the games and truly support their team.

To say, "It was just one of those days" (Although he couldn't really say much else) was a cop-out in the extreme. This was a game there for the winning and the players were in no psychological condition for the match.

Having been a long term supporter of David Moyes, it is now clearly time for him to move on AND for the board to do its damn job properly.

I've been moping around the house today like someone died.

Phil, very good point to bring up re: "centre-half is the hardest position to play". Convenient that the manager was a CB in his career. Just how full of himself is he?

Derek, Colin, I guess we should all get the sewing kits out because there's going to be a lot more orders for that uniform.

Also, Colin, hopefully more will now trust Marshy's summary that Moyes is a coward. In fairness, that is an insult to cowards everywhere.

MOB

I always back Moyes but, after that, he can fuck off and take Neville with him. Anyone who thinks Osman is good are deluded he is shite always on his arse. Neville and Osman in midfield... FFS, fuck off EVERTON!

It was obvious within five years that this man has no Plan B and has always been the coward referred to by Colin (#196). Eleven years is a fair go in anyone's language, so why is there still fans with doubt?

Also, why are people asking or debating if Moyes will sign a new contract? The fact is he should not be considered for a new contract. There has to be a new positive plan for this club and it can not include Kenwright or Moyes.

Your comment is spot on, me too always thinking Moyes is doing well with the resources he has but lately how can one keep thinking, stick strong with the manager, but how?? To keep playing the same team, week-in, week-out (injuries aside), and not rotating the squad a little, just baffles me.

He is wearing the players down and can't keep playing at their top without a break – that is why teams have squads. Moyes has two squads: one to play and one to sit on the bench and play the last 5 mins. Moyes just won't show any faith its plain to see Baines needs a rest Jelavic needs to play reserves to find the net a bit easier. Duffy, Barkley, Oviedo, Vellios need game time. But hey, I guess we all can see that, except one – no guessing who that is... ...

At least now, Moyes should be brutal with the non-performers and play the youngsters. My team against Man City - Mucha, Coleman, Duffy, Distin, Oviedo, Mirallas, Hitz, Gibson, Baines, Barkley, Anichebe. SUBS: Osman, Jela, Pienaar, Heitinga, Vellios, McAleney.

Moyes needs to show some guts now to keep the non-performers out of the team and give a chance to the youth.

I am in The Park end I didn't see clearly the "gesture" he made to The Bullens but I did witness his total (seeming) lack of interest in the game, his petulance and nonchalance and absolute lack of any link or graciousness to the supporters (his employers) and his march straight down the dug-out.

The media and Toffeeweb seemingly have little to say about what I consider a dreadful and almost unforgivable (non) display by a very talented player but a sullen and seemingly disinterested man.

Shame on you Fellaini in particular and to some of those other players who spout "redemption and pay-back" in the press and then turn in woeful displays such as yesterday - which although particularly bad was not an isolated poor game.

Shame on Moyes and some the players for offering such a woeful effort up to fans who generally support them with pride home and away.

The list of those currently employed at Goodison who I do not wish to see next season is ever growing.

At least now, Moyes should be brutal with the non-performers and play the youngsters. My team against Man City - Mucha, Coleman, Duffy, Distin, Oviedo, Mirallas, Hitz, Gibson, Baines, Barkley, Anichebe. SUBS: Osman, Jela, Pienaar, Heitinga, Vellios, McAleney.

Moyes needs to show some guts now to keep the non-performers out of the team and give a chance to the youth.

So, let's see which way Moyes goes with his team selection for the City game. Will he make significant changes - which, to continue the metaphor, would be the appropriate response to the traumatic discovery that the team/body is sick and dramatically malfunctioning - or will he pick the same side to show that he hasn't just had a knee-jerk reaction? We shall see...

I am embarrassed to be an Evertonian today and it's because of these people.

You really need to look at the opposition we've been struggling with, before making claims about us beating City, given the quality they have. You can't just base an opinion like that on things like 'the way football goes' or whatever other cliche you can think of.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just don't see it happening with such a tired, lacklustre team out there. Moyes should be starting players like Oviedo to inject something a bit different to the same 11 every week. We've become workmanlike as a result. You have to rotate your players around to motivate them, and he seem to not notice this.

We may have a small squad, but use them - use Barkley as well, start him now & then, mix things up. We're so predictable even the players are telegraphing everything they do. Other teams have sussed us out because we only play one way, with one 11. Moyes has become utterly blinkered to what I believe are the facts of the matter.

He's lacking vision, tactical awareness, patterns of play appear to allude him, and he never makes changes to affect games. Our non-starting players must sit there wondering why they bother to turn up every week.

Time will of course tell, and he may yet sign a new contract based only on the potential for there not being another job out there for him to go to, and I can't help thinking that will happen because the club would prefer him not to leave for nothing as well. Don't be surprised that when the dust settles, he signs again and stays until another job comes up, then leaves, Everton get compensation and a new manager mid-season, or even next year.

Do you think he could maybe have a word with his brother as the enjoy a family lunch for Mother's Day??

This season, we've played some good stuff and have showed real determination in games. It would appear as if something has happened recently to create this nadir. They say the Fellaini deal has been done. Maybe Moyes picked Neville because he likes him and felt he might as well put trust in effort. Who knows? But there were other things going on on that pitch apart from Neville's terrible performance. Why did Baines put the ball out, when he had no need to? It was surely a sign of malaise amongst the players.

Either way, Moyes appears spent — and who can blame him? He's been tetchy with the media for the last two or three years. Not a sign of a man working in a comfortable environment. He's had a decade of 'lick and stick' management.

But those with short memories should recall the fanfares surrounding the arrivals of Walter Smith and Mike Walker. Mike Walker's Norwich were world beaters having beaten Bayern Munich ...and look what trauma he put us through.

Moyes is a man of huge integrity, who has been a credit to the club. With a little more luck we'd have had a Champions League campaign which could have taken us in a wholly different direction. Such is the fickle hand of fate. So, while Moyes's race appears to be run, let's not demean ourselves — or the club — by spouting too much bile.

However, when Jags was ruled out with Howard, who had finally started to dominate his area, I had an ominous feeling given all the talk of a 'weakened' Wigan and all the signs of a one-sided walkover, which it turned out to be (for Wigan) along with the news from across Stanley Park and the semi-final draw made this weekend one to remember for all the wrong reasons.

Team:

Mucha, Stones, Duffy, Distin, Baines, Coleman (RW), Gibson, Barkley, Pienaar, Mirallas, Anichebe.

If we get beat, then so be it – plan for next year... Duffy and Barkley deserve a run in the team.

Unfortunately I feel Moyes will not have the balls to drop his favourites!