Season › 2012-13 › News Fifa to decide on Odjidja-Ofoe loan Michael Kenrick , 4 September, 117comments | Jump to most recent Everton remain hopeful that Fifa will sanction the £1m loan deal for central midfielder Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe from Club Brugge. Because Everton failed to complete the deal before the 11 pm deadlin last Friday, Fifa needs to give their approval for the move. Everton hope to add a third Belgium international to their ranks on Wednesday, providing Fifa give permission for Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe to move to Goodison Park. David Moyes's side agreed a season-long loan for the Club Brugge central midfielder on transfer deadline day, but the deal was not finalised before the 11pm cut-off point. Everton require ratification from world football's governing body but are hopeful, with both the English and Belgian football associations having given their approval, of receiving permission to sign the 23-year-old. Odjidja-Ofoe, who will cost a £1m loan fee, would be Everton's third Belgian recruit following Marouane Fellaini and the recent £5.3m signing from Olympiakos, Kevin Mirallas. He would also be Moyes's sixth summer signing after the arrivals of Steven Naismith, Steven Pienaar, Mirallas, Bryan Oviedo and the 17-year-old winger from Kilmarnock, Matthew Kennedy. The Everton manager's options in central midfield are limited at present, with Fellaini starting the season in a more advanced role and Darron Gibson suffering a thigh injury in Saturday's defeat at West Bromwich Albion. Odjidja-Ofoe was one of three targets Moyes pursued on deadline day; the other two, Steven Nzonzi and Michael Essien, joined Stoke City and Real Madrid respectively. Fifa's decision on Odjidja-Ofoe, who started his career with Anderlecht and had a brief spell at Hamburg before joining Club Brugge, may determine whether Moyes sends Ross Barkley on loan to give the talented teenager more regular first team football. Quotes or other material sourced from The Guardian Reader Comments (117) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Mark Riding 1 Posted 04/09/2012 at 18:07:49 I read that Spurs were given an extra hour to try and complete the Moutinho deal ? Why were we not allowed that grace as well ? or is a loan different ? Ian Glassey 2 Posted 04/09/2012 at 18:48:54 Lets hope that things go are way, looking at the video clips the lad looks a very good player. He looks capable of playing as dm or am a real box to box player.I can see him slotting right into the team making us a very strong unit.... Peter Thistle 3 Posted 04/09/2012 at 19:06:42 Assumed they got it done before 11pm and was just a case of paperwork needed to be signed by FiFA. Apparently not, hope they cut us some slack and approve it, we could use him. Mike Andrews 4 Posted 04/09/2012 at 19:11:10 Just read Owen gone to Stoke, thank fuck for that!! Aidan Wade 5 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:01:29 Not quite the rubber stamp approval I was thinking/hoping was required then. This guys seems like the business, hope we catch a break and FIFA don't refuse, possibly just to spite the English FA. James Smith 6 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:09:35 I really hope we get this guy, he looks good on YouTube and I think he will fit in well with our squad. Joe McMahon 7 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:14:34 We never get the luck on things like this. Spurs got it when they signed Van Der Vart. If this doesn't happen, that means Neville in midfield. Keith Glazzard 8 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:38:50 Joe - luck doesn't come into this Ask Arry. Simon Bradley 9 Posted 04/09/2012 at 20:54:34 hot off the press from my Anderlecht-fan, work chum in Belgium, when I asked him about our two newbies......"Mirallas is a good player, who played a lot in France. He plays a bit like Cristiano Ronaldo. But got to say honestly....Vadis..that's another level. He is a fantastic midfield player!! In my opinion, after Hazard, one of the best in Belgium. Technically very strong, good 'play insight' and a very good pass in the legs."....on top of the You Tube reel (I know, I know), I'm really quite excited about this lad James Stewart 10 Posted 04/09/2012 at 21:14:00 Really hope this goes through he looks absolute class. Fast and carries the ball from defence to attack quickly! Looks like an Arteta with pace! James Stewart 11 Posted 04/09/2012 at 21:16:02 I am not sure why on earth we wasted time pursuing Essien who is nearly finished and N'Zonzi who is a donkey. Time wasted. Drew O'Neall 12 Posted 04/09/2012 at 21:58:55 What are the terms of the loan? I read somewhere that we have the right to buy.. Can anyone confirm if that is the exclusive right and, that the figure has been set, and what that figure is? Si Cooper 13 Posted 05/09/2012 at 00:12:43 Fulham were apparently trying to sign him for £6 million, so maybe we just resurrected that deal when it fell through. Is it fair to assume that the lad wasn't interested in signing an extension to his contract at Bruges so they are just making sure they get a reasonable amount of money for him? Hopefully, for us and the player, it is just a case of being in the right place at the right time. Andrew Presly 14 Posted 05/09/2012 at 01:20:47 There's previous for all this b/s. Exhibit A - Banega (the one time we got a work permit!), B - Victor Obinna, C - er, Muller........Vintage EFC and I'm preparing myself for Jim White's "Deal Not Done!" face on SSN. Minik Hansen 15 Posted 05/09/2012 at 02:14:09 #770 Previously yes. This time it's something different. COYB! Fifa is on our side. ;-) :-D Jason Lam 16 Posted 05/09/2012 at 07:07:14 Just say the fax broke down or there was a traffic jam. Or brown envelope to Septic Bladder. Sam Hoare 17 Posted 05/09/2012 at 08:01:05 Hopefully the fact that both the English and Belgian FA have approved the deal will help. If nothing else it prolongs the 'will he, won't he' excitement of the transfer window. If it doesn't go through we could be set for alot of Neville in midfield so fingers crossed! Tony J Williams 18 Posted 05/09/2012 at 08:59:54 If he is so good, why is he getting loaned out? Rory Slingo 19 Posted 05/09/2012 at 09:17:48 Did you ask that about Pienaar and Arteta, Tony J Williams? Tony J Williams 20 Posted 05/09/2012 at 11:01:52 Yes. It just seems strange that such an apparent beast of a player is being loaned out.Then again, Essien, who is one of my favourite players has been loaned out too, albeit to Real Madrid. Rory Slingo 21 Posted 05/09/2012 at 11:05:21 I agree it's a bit early to be annointing him our midfield saviour, based off some YouTube highlights. He looks exciting but then so did Jo? I don't know much about FC Brugge and whether he's surplus to requirements there or isn't making the cut, but I trust Moyes will get the best out of him as he's done with the loans of Pienaar, Arteta, Donovan, Fernandes, Drenthe and Straq. Whether that best will be a good fit for the team is another matter. Finger crossed he's just what we need. Jeremy Benson 22 Posted 05/09/2012 at 11:24:30 Vincent Kompany tweeted a few days ago that we've signed a superb player and probably don't know it yet. Was waxing lyrical about him. Chris Davies 23 Posted 05/09/2012 at 15:53:07 I hear he has Royston Drenthe syndrome. That's why he's being loaned out and/or sold. Sounds like a bit of a douche. But if he's good, I don't care. Ken Buckley 24 Posted 05/09/2012 at 16:21:21 All the lowdown about him is in today's Echo. It seems he has had issues when leaving Belgium for Hamburg but he says he has matured now. Could be a good 'un... or a touch of the Roystons. Kristian Boyce 25 Posted 05/09/2012 at 16:33:25 I believe the reason he is being loaned was that it was quicker/easier to do due to the lack of time Friday night to complete the deal. Obviously it wasn't enough time to get the deal done, but I think its a loan to buy deal. A number of deals have been done like this on transfer deadline day in the past. I remember Benjani to City from Pompey a number of years ago was done in the similar fashion. But him being on loan gives us a good look at him for the season, and then we could do a Fenerbache and mess around with the deal in the future. Peter Laing 26 Posted 05/09/2012 at 16:38:44 Read that article too Ken and by the sounds of the lad he should be able to handle himself on County road, I mean Goodison Park. Good reviews from Kompany too who tweeted that he rates Ofoe. The Belguim national side certainly has the prospect of being very good in coming years with the players that they have coming through. Tony Graham 27 Posted 05/09/2012 at 17:09:21 Yes but has he actually become ours yet? I'll be pleased to see him in the shirt.... Phil Sammon 28 Posted 05/09/2012 at 17:20:25 When is this ratification going to happen then? First Monday, then Tuesday, then 'could run into Wednesday.' Get your finger out, Sepp. Andy Herbert 29 Posted 05/09/2012 at 17:37:51 Does the fact that he hasn't been included in our squad numbers present a problem? Ian Glassey 30 Posted 05/09/2012 at 18:06:54 Why is this taking so long? It is now Wednesday evening and we have heard nothing.I'm getting a bad feeling about this, I think he could have been a gem... Eugene Ruane 31 Posted 05/09/2012 at 18:16:32 Sepp (smiling): "Yeah I'd LOVE to ratify the deal...but..erm...got to have the official papers and getting that sort of stuff sorted costs money.... you know CASH....know what I mean...yep a LOT-OF-MONEY"Elstone: "Sorry did you just wink?"Sepp: "WINK!!? I most certainly did NOT wink, I had a bit of grit in my eye"(just give him his bung ffs!) James Carroll 32 Posted 05/09/2012 at 18:25:43 Agree - VERY bad feeling...Especially with FIFA involved - they hate England.... Keith Glazzard 33 Posted 05/09/2012 at 18:39:34 James - Arry would have fixed it.ps - my broadband router is fooked and its going to take Virgin many a day to sort it out so probably adios for a bit.Keep up the good work. Steve Guy 34 Posted 05/09/2012 at 20:20:14 Given the Everton management's track record I would say this one is screwed. Hope I'm wrong, but prepared for more Blue Bill blather. Sam Hoare 35 Posted 05/09/2012 at 20:22:58 Ominously quiet on this front given that it was meant to be ratified today.If this falls through then together with Gibson's injury I reckon we could be looking pretty short in the middle in the park. Think he might have to bring Fella back which is a shame given how effective he has been (last game aside). Brent Stephens 36 Posted 05/09/2012 at 21:17:03 Steve #938 - what do you know about the way the management handled this one?? What blather have you prepared for?? Trevor Lynes 37 Posted 05/09/2012 at 21:21:51 Even with the new signings, we only have 19 squad players whilst others have the full 25. It's no wonder we moved in this transfer window. James Flynn 38 Posted 05/09/2012 at 23:11:12 Likely FIFA doesn't have 2-3 folk assigned to the fax machine with instructions to "Hurry that loan request from Everton. Pronto"!Everyone's transfer window just closed, not just ours. FIFA will get to it. Jamie Sweet 39 Posted 06/09/2012 at 01:39:00 Getting more nervous about this one by the minute. I think we need this lad, especially if Gibson is out for a while.Having said that, Moyes (rightly or wrongly) very rarely sticks new signings straight into the team, so if Gibson is crocked, expect to see more of Captain Pip in the middle of the park. That'll cheer some of you up I'm sure! Steve Guy 40 Posted 06/09/2012 at 07:24:21 Trevor for a start, why did it have to end up with a FIFA ruling required ? Working to a transfer deadlIne is what they are paid to do and they failed. Blather ? The usual stuff about 24/7 to get the deal done and those nasty men at FIFA said no Martin Mason 41 Posted 06/09/2012 at 07:52:27 SteveThink about this for an alternative reality. We have lttle money so DM has a list of the people he wants to get on loan, free transfer or on the cheap. He has them listed in proiority and like all clubs throughout Europe he has to wait on players being sold and bought to see which of his preferred targets are going to be available. It's like vertical dominos and they don't start to fall until right at the end of the transfer window. Not only Everton but every club in Europe bar the very rich. What this results in is a very late deal to get this lad from Belgium (he was down the priority list as he should be) and the paperwork going in apparently late. Nothing to do with incompetence at EFC, no different to many other deals throughout Europe and no conspiracy needed. They are not paid to get transfer deals done, doing transfer deals costs them money which they have very little of. David Chait 42 Posted 06/09/2012 at 08:13:40 I'm not overly worried.. it has been ratified by both the FA and the Belgians... Steve Guy 43 Posted 06/09/2012 at 08:49:58 Martin "They are not paid to get transfer deals done" Really ?As for the rest, yes I do understand how it works I just wouldn't be surprised if there's a cock up at the bottom of this seeming delay. Both in terms of player contract management and of the Club in general, the incumbents do not exactly shine. I hope I'm wrong on this one as we clearly need the player to give cover in midfield. Martin Mason 44 Posted 06/09/2012 at 09:26:17 Steve, to be fair you implied a cock-up? Anyway, never mind, I agree that it's frustrating and what will be even more frustrating is that DM won't play him for a while. Jeremy Benson 45 Posted 06/09/2012 at 09:35:10 Steve, how on earth is it mismanagement? We brought players in, we made a last-ditch attempt to get someone else in that may or may not come off depending on some red tape that affects everyone. I don't think that qualifies as mismanagement or a cock up. The situation late on deadline day is often complex. In fact, I'd say it would be more of a coup if we manage to pull it off. He who dares, and all that.Our club and management isn't perfect, mistakes have been made, but trying to find fault in everything that doesn't go our way is a bit ridiculous.I wonder why owners/investors bother getting involved in clubs these days, they are on a hiding to nothing and a lot of them end up losing money. Phil Bellis 46 Posted 06/09/2012 at 14:35:47 Ey-up lads! Rip Van Winkle here - slept through Wednesday - any news on the FIFA decision or are they all on holiday?Wonder if the OS has an update - hang about...nope, latest news is Distin encouraged. That's all all right, then Tony McNulty 47 Posted 06/09/2012 at 15:04:30 Jeremy,I think that a number of us on here feel that the way Everton do things sometimes gives the impression of amateur hour.I could cite a number of things but to take one example of contracts and transfers: what about the Gosling debacle? The reason people might feel frustrated at this one is that he is clearly a good player and we would like to have him. But if we really wanted him why didn't we do things sooner? Did it really all have to be left to the last minute to the point that we may not get him owing to a FIFA ruling? And as more time elapses on we begin to suspect that that answer will be in the negative. Hopefully there are amateur hour practitioners in FIFA too, and it is just a matter of them getting around to it and ratifying the decision. Steve Guy 48 Posted 06/09/2012 at 15:29:37 Thank you Tony :-) Mike Allison 49 Posted 06/09/2012 at 15:59:47 "I think that a number of us on here feel that the way Everton do things sometimes gives the impression of amateur hour."I get annoyed with the moaning and negativity of many Toffeeweb posters, and certainly don't count myself in that camp, but its hard to argue with this statement from Tony. We've simply seen things go wrong so many times not to be cynical and sceptical about a situation like this.I've not seen him play, but what little evidence I can gather about him is very encouraging. Jeremy Benson 50 Posted 06/09/2012 at 16:28:50 Tony,why didn't we do it earlier? Well I would guess because he wasn't higher up the list of people we wanted.We were waiting till fairly late in the window on that guy that ended up choosing to go to AC Milan instead. Then apparently we were also trying for Essien and N'Zonzi, and maybe Butland too. They didn't come off. We looked at others.I really fail to see why there is the accusation that the club have not acted properly in this case. There is no evidence whatsoever. Victor Chang 51 Posted 06/09/2012 at 16:27:41 Tony, the reason it was left till last minute is because we were still chasing Essien and N'Zonzi, and as those players left their respective clubs on the last transfer day, a rush deal was put together for plan C. Si Cooper 52 Posted 06/09/2012 at 15:58:56 It is another unfortunate example of a lack of definitive information testing everyone's patience.Already misinformation / misinterpretation is in danger of clouding this issue further, and the lack of official progress reports / updates seems counter-productive in so much as it stokes peoples 'paranoia'.I have seen it 'reported' that DM went to London to attend a work permit hearing for Odjidja-Ofoe. A work-permit hearing for an EU citizen???? Shome mishtake, shurely?It seems more likely that Odjidja-Ofoe was low down on our shopping list, with our limited pot of money being ring-fenced for some other targets and Fulham already courting him. Late last Friday, when other attempts have come to nothing (and his proposed move to Fulham has fallen through) we have opportunistically stepped in.Obviously the available time would have been limited, and that is nobody's fault, so we have pushed something through in an attempt to get the deal done.What irritates is the silence since, with expected timelines being exceeded with no attempt at explanation. Could it possibly hurt anyone to say, "Nothing has changed, still just waiting for FIFA to get around to it. Indications are good.", or "There are some issues which have slowed up the process." Phil Bellis 53 Posted 06/09/2012 at 16:56:52 With you on this, all the way, SiWhat's so bloody difficult about a statement re the situation?OS still reporting Distin as encouraged, though Terry Maddock 54 Posted 06/09/2012 at 17:14:34 Si @ 071, I think you will find he went to London to secure a work permit for a Costa Rican citizen. Steve King 55 Posted 06/09/2012 at 17:07:01 Si Cooper #071He was in London for Bryan Oviedo's work permit hearing. As far as I am aware thats was what was correctly reported on the day.Otherwise I agree with your post.Their silence is so frustrating and doesn't make any sense!!! Si Cooper 56 Posted 06/09/2012 at 18:08:18 Steve, WE know why DM was in London, but one of the papers had it mixed up the other day so I could see it becoming 'fact' in some peoples eyes and clouding the issue. I am pretty sure we only started negotiating this deal late on Friday, with the manager's trip to London perhaps even facilitating a detour to meet with the player and his agent once Fulham were failing in their bid.The lack of updates since Monday is irritating, especially since it encourages uninformed speculation to replace the facts Sam Hoare 57 Posted 06/09/2012 at 18:17:43 Agree with Si cooper. The club are aware that fans like us are desperate for some news, any news and being totally left in the dark is just frustrating especially when it was reported that it would be sorted yesterday.A little 'nothing ratified yet but talks ongoing' would be nice but they give us nothing! Dean Adams 58 Posted 06/09/2012 at 19:14:52 Still cannot find anything about Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe, the only site that suggests he has joined us is Wiki, so no clarity there. Does anyone know what happened at the hearing yesterday? Ian Glassey 59 Posted 06/09/2012 at 19:25:21 I think we can forget this one lads, its gone on to long. maybe try again in January... Kristian Boyce 60 Posted 06/09/2012 at 19:22:13 The thing that worries me as this isn't wrapped up yet is that other transfer windows aren't closed yet. Its been made clear that he's available, so who's to say that a foreign team doesn't put a sneaky bid in and blow us out of the water while we mess around waiting for an approval. John Wilson 61 Posted 06/09/2012 at 18:54:16 Martin Mason:EFC blew it, I think.Excusing them for late paperwork is dumb whether or not a manager has to deal with many variables beyond his control on the last day, or not. Managers must decide which players they want and prioritize the order they are to be hired. Each acquisition scenario requires its own budget, price, and timeline-so each is given a drop-dead time to bid (with a 'good till' time to accept or reject). If we believe Moyes's last day quandary to have been Essien; Nzonzi; Quo Vadis; and in this order-all he needed was a reliable watch to end each bid and move to his next option and scenario. EFC's back office brains, skills, and business knowledge is like or worse than most in EPL — i.e. atrocious! So managers typically do it all themselves, keeping MUM to avoid showing their hand or queering a deal. Finally the FIFA god will decide -probably after the WCQs next week! Ian Bennett 62 Posted 06/09/2012 at 19:40:11 A couple of quid in a brown envelope should work. Tony McNulty 63 Posted 06/09/2012 at 20:03:51 Victor Chang,I know this is very unfair, but mindful of DK and the comments made at that time, the very idea that some of the bones working in our club might have been hastening to implement a “Plan C”, is one of the funniest things I have seen on Toffeeweb for some time. Gerry Quinn 64 Posted 06/09/2012 at 20:23:49 "...since it encourages uninformed speculation to replace the facts"To the media and to those on ToffeeWeb - STOP speculating is the answer. Why the hell should Everton comment in these circumstances? Silence is golden, and maybe delays other clubs who may be interested from acting. When the deal is done, we will get to know Jim Knightley 65 Posted 06/09/2012 at 20:53:35 With respect to a belief in Everton transfer cock-ups, I think pretty much every team has fans with this mentality. Objectively, Arsenal have had a serious of recent cock-ups, as have Spurs and most obviously Liverpool. The Gosling thing was beyond stupid, but I don't think we have a particularly bad record in regards to transfer failures. According to trusted sources, we were trying to get Essien first, and It seems this guy was a backup, hence the issues. Graham Mockford 66 Posted 06/09/2012 at 20:53:09 Glass half empty glass half full.............It seems to be what's dividing us. I will come back on here when it's fallen through and take my medicine, but I'm suspecting not! Phil Bellis 67 Posted 06/09/2012 at 21:17:59 Gerry (101)Stop speculating on things Evertonia?Can't be doneBut I like your "you gotta know when to fold `em..." attitude Si Cooper 68 Posted 06/09/2012 at 21:46:59 "Why the hell should Everton comment in these circumstances?" - er, maybe because they were the ones who told us it would all be sorted by early this week.If the club are perfectly happy to trumpet signings as positive news and a reason to be pleased, then they also have some responsibility to manage the expectations they have raised. Brendan McLaughlin 69 Posted 06/09/2012 at 21:59:28 Si #111Perhaps you've seen something I ain't but I don't recall the club trumpeting this "signing"? Si Cooper 70 Posted 06/09/2012 at 22:14:47 Brendan (#113) - posted on the OS on 1st September 2012 by Andy Lewis (and copied from there without editing )"Everton are poised to make a sixth and final summer signing after concluding an agreement to bring Belgian international Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe to Goodison Park.The deal was agreed immediately prior to Friday's 11pm transfer deadline with paperwork submitted to the Premier League and Football Association. The transfer now needs to be rubber stamped by football's governing body FIFA – a process which will take place early next week."You don't think I just make things up do you! ;) Brendan McLaughlin 71 Posted 06/09/2012 at 22:25:07 Si #115Er....em..ok I'll give you that one.PS. I don't think you make this stuff up....hence I'm taking your word & have'nt checked it out the OS Si Cooper 72 Posted 06/09/2012 at 22:42:51 Nice to have a 'tap-in', Brendan. Gerry Quinn 73 Posted 06/09/2012 at 23:09:03 Si, you have a good point there, and I stand corrected.Maybe the club should be honest and just come out and now say "The transfer now needs to be rubber stamped by football's governing body FIFA – a process which will take place early next week - OR POSSIBLY LATER." Brian Furey 74 Posted 07/09/2012 at 10:17:51 I really hope no news is good news as I think having VOO this season will really help us. I think Gibson has settled in well but he is injury-prone and this guy looks the real deal from what I've seen of him online.Hard to believe it's a week today since the deal was done so sounds to me like someone who needs to sign something is away on leave or on international duty. James Stewart 75 Posted 07/09/2012 at 11:39:49 Still nothing on this, not a good sign sadly. All the other late moves have been ratified. Sam Hoare 76 Posted 07/09/2012 at 11:44:00 Deafening silence on this one. Reckon somethings gone pearshaped which leaves us short in central midfield by my reckoning. Probably the most important position on the pitch... Rory Slingo 77 Posted 07/09/2012 at 11:51:47 Watch this space! Sam Hoare 78 Posted 07/09/2012 at 12:20:56 Rory, do you know anything? Or was that just blind optimism (of which I am a fan)? Drew O'Neall 79 Posted 07/09/2012 at 11:45:23 Have the other late moves necessiated ratification by FIFA though or just the local association/league? James Elworthy 80 Posted 07/09/2012 at 13:09:57 Silence from Everton usually means it has all gone wrong and they hope we will forget about it, fans get treated at times like mushrooms by the clubs PR, kept in a dark room and every now and then they throw in a load of shit. Phil Bellis 81 Posted 07/09/2012 at 13:22:48 Piss-up and brewery come to mindOS latest is Distin backs Baines - that's good(hoping that the long-held Scouse proposition of "crying it home" works) Rory Slingo 82 Posted 07/09/2012 at 14:06:38 Apologies Sam, I was being facetious. No optimism, blind or otherwise, was implied nor intended. Sam Hoare 83 Posted 07/09/2012 at 14:48:30 Shame Rory. We could use some more of that on this website! Paul Thompson 84 Posted 07/09/2012 at 15:20:42 I have no idea why it's taking this long either, but I doubt whether there is some deliberate plot ot keep Everton fans in the dark. The last thing on Club Brugge's website was:Football's governing body FIFA hasn't made a definitive decision concerning the late loan swoop by Everton FC to land Club's Vadis Odjidja. It may take until Wednesday before FIFA can reach a decision. Pending that decision, Vadis enters an individual training program in close consultation with Club's sports staff. Bobby Thomas 86 Posted 07/09/2012 at 16:03:46 Rumour has it Club Brugges & The Everton Football Club are also part of a capitalist conspiracy to maintain artificially high petrol prices. Mike Oates 87 Posted 07/09/2012 at 16:06:38 I cant believe under normal circumstances it takes more than a few days to ratify a loan which both Country Associations have accepted , the only conclusion is that there is something not right , paperwork, terms, future committments. There must have been some FIFA contact by now which neither club are sharing, now 5pm Swiss time and I suspect all have gone home , so we'll not find out till next Monday or Wednesday or .... Phil Bellis 88 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:17:01 BobbyThe powers-that-be at Everton couldn''t maintain an erection Dean Adams 89 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:33:31 It seems the powers that be may have a little dislike for Everton, so I will assume that somewhere in our murky past we pissed them off and we will forever be paying for whatever it was or was not that we did or did not do to upset them or not?Why just once cant we have a loan move for a foreign national go through with no hitches? Oh yeah, we have had plenty over the Moyes/Kenwright era. Damn!!! Phil Bellis 90 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:40:10 Just not at 23:59 + 90 mins DeanBuggar!!! Si Cooper 91 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:19:50 "I have no idea why it's taking this long either, but I doubt whether there is some deliberate plot ot keep Everton fans in the dark."Of course it's not a plot, but it is inconsiderate at best, and disrespectful at worst.The club knows that supporters are interested in new signings (and all the other inconsequential stuff that would leave an outsider cold) and are happy to make announcements on the OS when it suits.When information they provide proves to be incorrect / superseded (for instance, ratification expected early next week, or Wednesday at the latest) , then I would expect them to provide follow-up information to keep their fans (who else visits the OS) in the loop as a simple matter of courtesy. The only exceptions would be if it was important that the information remain secret, but how can that apply to this situation.Life goes on regardless I know, but I still don't understand why nothing more has been said on this subject. Bobby Thomas 92 Posted 07/09/2012 at 17:48:24 Phil, I'm shocked by your lack of faith in the keepers of the Everton flame!!Christ knows what's going on but I hope we get the lad boxed otherwise we will be short in midfield. It's okay getting dollar for Rodwell but if fit he would have been playing a lot of football. I'm also worried, thus far, about Gibsons durability.If we don't get him boxed then people are gonna go into Phil Neville midfield meltdown. Well sometimes we're just gonna have to do it. It's not like Moyes thinks it's ideal, in Gibbo & with this deal, he is trying to get lads who can screen the back 4 AND play.Heitinga can play there as well if Neville is doing right back. Ossie can play there as well so we will be okay but, it stretches the squad. If there's no Gibbo & Ossie's in there with Neville/Heitinga, who plays right? Coleman? Average, no more. Will give you everything he has mind.For example, l am not expecting big things from Naismith. Only cos after 2 bad knee injuries this is his first season in the Prem. Big jump & he may need a few months to adjust, get fit, deal with the pace of the league. He may well fly out of the traps but.... cruciates are difficult. For example it took Arteta and Jag about a year to get back to what they were, even after they got fit for selection again. So I could understand Naismith having a quiet few months.We have Mirallas as well so that's good and we need him to come in and get his head round it quick.People like Ossie and Neville get murdered on here.... but we are gonna be relying heavily on these seldom injured senior pros this year, especially if this deal doesn't come off. Sam Hoare 93 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:32:15 Desperate for some news on this! Can't believe the whole week has gone and the club have told us absolutely nothing about this or Gibson's injury. Robert Heaton 94 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:36:05 Does anyone know if Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe's loan move has been ratified by FIFA? As far as I can gather this was meant to occur on Wednesday but no announcement has been made either way. James Smith 95 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:31:49 Silence isn't a good thing... I'm thinking we have done something in the past to piss Fifa off and we are paying for it now. Phil Bellis 96 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:47:05 Bobby,we call it "having previous" in the Met Ian Smith 97 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:41:30 What's the score with the new belgium fella?? Bobby Thomas 98 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:53:47 Indeed Phil. Our boys in blue on the pitch and our much loved and respected board currently have differing varients of "form". Ian Glassey 99 Posted 07/09/2012 at 18:42:51 I think we are going to see a lot of Pip, and Johhny playing in midfield this season.Just hope that Gibson manages to stay fit. While Gibson is unfit Felli has to drop back, 5 man midfield of.. Naismith Osman Fellani Pienaar Mirallas ... Ian Bennett 100 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:08:15 Belgium playing Wales on Sky Sports 1. Belgium playing well. Phil Bellis 101 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:26:58 Expected bad news rumour on The People's Forum Phil Bellis 102 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:32:48 From Club Brugge OS.Today was Club Brugge and Everton FC FIFA informed that the temporary transfer of Vadis Odjidja not continue. The request by the English Football Association to the Belgian Football Association was too late. James Morgan 103 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:39:47 Phil, your English is terrible. Mike Oates 104 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:40:45 Phil #264Do you have a link Andy Crooks 105 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:38:47 Phil, I hope this is not the case. If,however it is true it is completely down to bad luck, fate,karma, etc. It will not be due in any way to incompetence.It is nothing to do with Everton that the transfer is only open for just the entire summer. Sean Patton 106 Posted 07/09/2012 at 20:41:31 It is on the Club Brugge website there is a quote from the player as well,nice to find out isn't it would have been a good signing still it means that Barkley will get more of a chance. Any guesses on when the Everton site will report it I will go for Monday at the earliest! James Morgan 107 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:02:28 Barkley will still be warming the bench lads, Neville is the star man to step in. Zaid Omar 108 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:02:42 Just checked the official club bruge website and can't find anything.. See latest news http://clubbrugge.be/en/news Phil Bellis 109 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:09:18 Found it here and used Google Translatehttp://clubbrugge.be/nl/nieuws/7842/vadis-blijft-bij-club-bruggeWhat's Flemish for bollocks? Phil Bellis 110 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:12:56 Andy (266)According to some fellow poster we are only customers, really Andy Crooks 111 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:10:12 Sean, I assume you are joking when you say Barkley will bet more of a chance. I expect to get more of a chance than him.I'm the right side of sixty,loyal as fuck and as creative as Phil Neville.(okay I don't have his leadership skills) Sean Patton 112 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:13:25 Haha nice one Columbo I mean Phil- I never passed my Flemish GCSE Jim Knightley 113 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:22:18 Shit..confirmed by Everton: http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/09/07/fifa-ruling-on-odjidja-ofoe Zaid Omar 114 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:20:38 Thanks Phil.. Disappointing to say the least. But expected cos it did seem really late when the news actually broke. Phil Bellis 115 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:20:51 I'm just glad I resisted watching any clips on YouTube - would've been like Bullseye "now let's see what you could have won!"Worst part is, the world's been alerted to the lad and his availablity; if only we had the sense to do a deal for January, by which time all this might have been reported on EvertonFC.com James Morgan 116 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:37:55 A week to decline it? FIFA are a joke. Can't wait to buy FIFA 13 though. Zaid Omar 117 Posted 07/09/2012 at 21:44:06 Looks like Mirallas was substituted early against Wales... Hope not a serious injury. Michael Kenrick Editorial Team 118 Posted 07/09/2012 at 22:22:25 Please bear with me while I move most of the recent comments to the new News thread... 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