No clearance yet for Bryan Oviedo

, 16 September, 45comments  |  Jump to most recent
David Moyes will be unable to call on the services of deadline-day signing Bryan Oviedo for Monday's game against Newcastle because as the Costa Rica international has only just finalised his visa.

In fact, Moyes is just looking forward to meeting the midfielder.

"I've not even seen him yet. He's not been here because he had to be out the country to get his visa," he said.

"I did the work permit hearing in London a couple of weeks ago so I didn't get to meet him when he was in doing his medical - I've not even had a chance to say hello to him."

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Ian Corky
1 Posted 16/09/2012 at 12:34:07
How come 2 weeks and 3 days after us buying Oviedo do we still not have clearance to play him tomorrow night? We are a total shambles on the professional business front!!!
David Moorcroft
2 Posted 16/09/2012 at 15:30:29
Looks like we are trying to fuck this one up as well.
Mike Powell
3 Posted 16/09/2012 at 15:44:16
If it was the Shite or Man Utd, they would've gotten clearance... it can only happen to us!
Andy Herbert
4 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:07:33
Behave yourselves. How on earth can the time it takes for the work permit be down to the club!
Ian Black
5 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:11:32
Hmmm seems like quite a long time to wait for clearance. It is a formality isn't it? Has anyone checked to see if he has played the requisite amount of internationals in the last two years? More importantly, has anybody at the club checked?
Steve Guy
6 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:13:49
I've said it over the other Belgian "coup" that never happened.....I'll be surprised if some can tie their own shoelaces unaided.
Mark Riding
7 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:18:18
Not even met him ? This only needs ' he looked good on youtube and is boss on fifa 12 ' to seal the deal...
Brent Stephens
8 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:18:49
Here we go again!! Jumping to conclusions already I don't know what the facts are. Who does in this thread?
Brent Stephens
9 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:21:09
Mark, #038 Is it possible DM has seen him play, in the flesh, but not yet met him in person?
David Barks
10 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:38:18
You guys do know that the club can't issue visas, right? That's something that government offices have to do, not Everton. But yeah, definitely all Everton's fault.
James Morgan
11 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:46:50
Does this kind of thing only happen to us? Is it possible that we've paid for this guy and he won't even end up joining us?
Alex Nyarko contract/permit situation springs to mind.
Trevor Lynes
12 Posted 16/09/2012 at 16:56:26
It does seem to be much quicker for other clubs to sort deals out. Harry Redknapp seemed to be able to buy and sell faster than Delboy.

We are very poor in our player management, what with the Gosling debacle etc. We seem to be able to loan players out pretty quickly however.

Our squad really is small!! Oviedo cannot be counted yet and who knows how long it will take to get him match fit. In the meantime, Barkley is loaned out and will possibly be back before the Oviedo situation is resolved.

Amit Vithlani
13 Posted 16/09/2012 at 17:05:30
Usually you do have to leave the country to apply for a visa before returning, so nothing strange there. Abit weird that 2 weeks later he is not cleared (what if we had a game yesterday and needed him?).

But hopefully it will be alright on the night, to quote Denis Norden (remember him).

Martin Mason
14 Posted 16/09/2012 at 17:09:06
I can not fucking believe it. How long do you think it takes to get a UK visa? Can Everton issue the visa to him? Tragedy, 2 weeks and he still isn't here, let's have a communal whinge and burn effigies of the board for having fucked up although everything is outside of their hands. I could write a best seller based on posts on here but it wouldn't be a football book, it'd be bloody comedy.

Just be patient, we've bought him, he's registered and is waiting for his visa and maybe those for his family.

Phil Bellis
15 Posted 16/09/2012 at 17:57:07
Should have gone to Visas 'R' Us, Martin
Richard Jones
16 Posted 16/09/2012 at 18:11:59
Martin — and you could star in your own version of the Trueman Show, you are so oblivious to the board's shortcomings.
Alex Kociuba
17 Posted 16/09/2012 at 18:13:34
"Work permits will only be issued to international football players of the highest calibre who will be able to make a significant contribution to the development of the game of football in the United Kingdom at the highest level."

"A player must have player for his country in at least 75% of its competitive A team matches of which he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application

The player’s country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application"

According to fifa.com they're ranked 66 (down 4 places) - not sure about over two years. According to Wikipedia he's played 17 times for his country and according to soccerbase.com they've played 36 times in that time, but I don't know for which of those he was fit for.

Alex Kociuba
18 Posted 16/09/2012 at 18:17:48
Although I think 20 of those games might not be category A. And which of his 17 games were those games. So fuck knows, I have no idea.
Martin Mason
19 Posted 16/09/2012 at 18:21:36
Definitely Phil :-)
Ray Roche
20 Posted 16/09/2012 at 18:20:53
Wasn't he involved in an International last week? If so, Moyes wouldn't have been able to see him and that would also slow the prcess down, surely?
But hey, lets just give Moyes some stick for the sake of it...
Jimmy Scales
21 Posted 16/09/2012 at 18:28:15
Listen lads is this me missing something here? Read the actual thread post, first paragraph says he is not available as visa only just been sorted. Evertonians pessimistic? Never! :)
Lee Mandaracas
22 Posted 16/09/2012 at 18:25:29
It is rather disappointing (albeit almost certainly a total coincidence on all fronts) that Fellaini's gut-wrenching comments came between Oviedo and Odjidja-Ofoe being announced as signed and falling through (or facing the risk thereof)

I am still astounded that he has clearly influenced two of his International counterparts to join us immediately prior to apparently announcing his planned departure. Did that have any impact? Well, clearly not on the visa application but perhaps on Oviedo's desire to fight for it to go through. Personally, I am concerned at how things are progressing but I believe a win tomorrow night will shift a lot of people's fears. All of this unsettlement on the back of an unexpected loss two weeks ago is not helping.

Jimmy Scales
23 Posted 16/09/2012 at 18:36:54
I believe united have already signed a pre contract with him to go to old trafford in the summer for 20 million! Bet he has been pushed out by DM and BK! Bastards!
Matt Traynor
25 Posted 16/09/2012 at 19:12:18
Can we do a swap then with FIFA on clearance - Oviedo for Vadis (sorry Bryan, but our need to keep Nev out of CM is more pressing)
Steve Guy
26 Posted 16/09/2012 at 19:16:09
Personally I was not having a go at Moyes; rather I was having a go at the operational side (or non operational more like) which has let Moyes down on more than one occasion with its incompetence. Not to mention the fans for far longer.
Joe McMahon
27 Posted 16/09/2012 at 19:51:49
How on earth can Kenwright smile for the cameras, he should be ashamed. This is how a top (in history) premiership club is run in 2012. FFS this guy has outdone Peter Johnson all the way.
It looks like yet again we will be done in by a tiny squad. 24/7/365..........Watch This Space.
Ray Roche
28 Posted 16/09/2012 at 20:04:55
Jimmy Scales @067

Jimmy, unless you can back up your belief that he has agreed to join Utd with some form of proof, do us all a favour and keep that sort of shite to yourself.


Unless, of course, you have a Degree in Sarcasm....;-)

Ian Bennett
29 Posted 16/09/2012 at 20:18:57
£20m would only get 5 foot of him....
Jimmy Scales
30 Posted 16/09/2012 at 20:16:58
Ffs Ray! I know it's very difficult to portray sarcasm in text but I thought it was abundantly obvious that my tongue was firmly pressed against my cheek!

Haha, nevermind... maybe I will leave the satire to Tom O'Connor!
Jimmy Scales
31 Posted 16/09/2012 at 20:21:53
Sorry Ray! Just reread your post, I was somewhat premature in getting my oar in! Something that Mrs Scales would certainly agree with. :(
Ray Roche
32 Posted 16/09/2012 at 20:30:21
It's OK,Jimmy, I've got a short fuse myself.

Ask my missus...

John Campbell
33 Posted 16/09/2012 at 20:50:53
We are a bloody joke!
Tom Dodds
34 Posted 17/09/2012 at 00:02:06
Well it's midnight and we can all leave ToffeeWeb after all our railin' debatin' and eternal pessimism now and go bowees!

Big game tomorrow — well, today! I'll be there... hope everyone who can,will. If not hope(!) and will us on... Because if this team no matter who plays busts its guts out to the bitter end, then, maybe the attack on this season will roll on and forward. No more time for losers. No more time for back-biting comments from players or fans, you're either in or you're out!!!

Bring it on, you Royal Blues.
Dennis Stevens
35 Posted 17/09/2012 at 00:30:04
Does that mean we're not paying him yet?
Seamus Murphy
36 Posted 17/09/2012 at 01:15:17
I see the official club spokesman is on toffeeweb again!
Anto Byrne
37 Posted 17/09/2012 at 02:16:41
Bloody shambles this transfer stuff, any other clubs in the same position?
Ian Campbell
38 Posted 17/09/2012 at 02:49:22
I blame Club Brugge.

Jamie Tulacz
40 Posted 17/09/2012 at 13:03:27
Jimmy (065) surely right – the post at the top says the work visa has now been accepted, so he'll only miss one game effectively. I suspect it wouldn't be our fault anyway, delay's probably due to cutbacks.
Ian Corky
41 Posted 17/09/2012 at 15:34:14
Not wanting to sound racist, am all for equality and diversity, but there are a couple of hundred thousand Poles, Latvians etc, totally fuckin useless to our economy, being housed and fed in Britain off my income tax, and we can't get a legit deal in over 2 weeks!?!

Whoever said, "If it was the Shite or Manure, he would have played the next day" was right — we are treated like a low-profile club because we act like one!!!
Alex Kociuba
42 Posted 17/09/2012 at 19:41:29
Ian, the problem is Costa Rica isn't in the EU. And you don't seem racist at all - not one bit.
Peter Warren
43 Posted 17/09/2012 at 20:58:06
Corky - for someone who didn't want to sound racist you do a good job sounding racist
Eugene Ruane
44 Posted 18/09/2012 at 11:08:10
Agree Peter (311) re Ian 'I'm not a racist..BUT' Corky.

A classic, unthinking Mail-style vent there.

Actually I'm a little confused now - is the problem they're 'coming over here and taking all our jobs' or they're coming here and NOT taking our jobs?

Funny, I saw a documentary about a year ago, featuring feckless, pale-faced, live-in-their-trackies, British unemployed, moaning about the Poles/Latvians "takin' all our jobs" etc blah.

The feller making the documentary took them to a (local) job centre where there WAS jobs.

(admittedly they were not £300,000 per year jobs, but those jobs are rarely available to those who spent every single day at school, squeezing the boils on the back of their necks while daydreaming about being a fucking rapper)

They almost shat themselves and ALL refused.

"Well...it ain't wurf it innit...only a few squids more van ver dole" (or some such barely intelligible gibberish)

Ian, if you want to be a xenophobe/racist fine, knock yourself out (I understand few have their opinions changed on TW).

But get your facts straight re where your income tax goes - exactly who gets their housing paid for and who is useless to 'our' economy.

(or are you fine paying for spongers as long as they're decent, not hard-working, British spongers?)

Keep in mind (despite what the Mail and Express might tell you) it's not likely to be the Polish plumber who spends all day spark-out on his sofa, eating Monster Munch, rutting, tattooing his pit-bull, kipping and/or watching (or appearing on) Jeremy fucking Kyle.

Trevor Lynes
45 Posted 18/09/2012 at 17:37:54
Wigan Athletic have been dealing almost exclusively with South American players and don't seem to have problems. Surely proper management would have found out all the requirements of bringing in a Costa Rica player BEFORE they signed the lad.

I am dumbfounded at the eccentricities of our board when it comes to spending money. We can transfer out pretty quickly with the exception of Yobo and loan out in a heartbeat... but we seem to be really poor at handling incomings.

We have 18 squad members not counting Oviedo which makes it as small as ever. Now we loan out Barkley when Gibson is injured and out for October. By the time Gibson is fit enough to play Barkley will be back???

In the meantime we cannot drop anyone who is out of form and hope that Jelavic is available after leaving goodison on crutches. Brinkmanship of the first magnitude.

We are as naive as any non league club when it comes to transfers. Maybe we should employ Rednapp as a consultant to deal with our ins and outs.

Si Cooper
46 Posted 18/09/2012 at 23:56:05
Trevor (#585), I think it has more to do with economics rather than naivety as such. The only reason our out-goings seem to occur so smoothly is that we are normally practically giving the player away (deemed surplus to requirements and a potential saving on wages) or the club that is buying is wealthy enough to stump-up an offer that is too attractive (or absolutely required) to refuse.

When it comes to extracting good money for marginal players we are generally useless because the likes of Fenerbahce know they can play the waiting game. We are pushovers and incapable of playing hardball because we need the sale.

When negotiating to bring in players you are normally going to be in the weaker position, with the exception of free agents or players from clubs that are even more desperate for cash than we are.

Bob Willis
47 Posted 19/09/2012 at 19:52:37
Eugene 506 - Talking about spongers - I was walking to the match on Monday evening thru' the old school Car Park? opposite the Stanley Park area.

A car with two young lads was entering from the Stanley Park side and one of the attendants shouts to the other who was inside the parking lot ''DSS?'. The one on the inside shouted back ''OK'' and in they came.

I watched the two lads come out of the car and give the attendants a thumbs up and walk off as large as life.

DSS my arse - they were perfectly ablebodied and were taking the piss.

Everyone else had to pay but these two with their 'attendant' cronies were let in Scot free.

SPONGERS!!!


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