Moyes rejects contract speculation

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David Moyes has insisted he is happy with his current contract situation and speaks to his chairman every day.

Moyes has been in charge at Goodison Park for a decade and says he remains fully committed to the club, having masterminded an excellent start to the new season.

His current deal will expire next summer but the manager maintains that is not a major issue and he is in no hurry to agree an extension as he focuses on matters on the field.

"I am happy with the situation," said the Scot. "The chairman is as well. We talk on the phone every day, so it's nothing that needs to be resolved by any big talks.

"We have a good relationship and when it comes to that, that's the way we will deal with it. My commitment to Everton is total and always will be."

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Barry Rathbone
1 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:55:31
A regular CL participant always loses a manager during a season and I suspect the foreign coach love in has run it's course - unless Mourinho turns up.

I can see this more cavalier version of Moyes getting a start somewhere this time round.

I think he wants it and although I don't like the cosiness between him and Kenwright I reckon they both know this is his last season.

They'll spin it with interviews like this for the foreseeable.

Ian Bennett
2 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:16:59
Barry – you're not tipping Moyes for a top 4 job are you?
Damian Braithwaite
3 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:19:42
I've heard a rumour in Goodison that Moyes and his staff are miffed that the club never celebrated his 10 years at the club in March. Emails where sent to Robert Elstone but with ideas to put on a party etc, etc, these were completely ignored. So there is no love lost with Moyes and Elsone but I'm surprised Kenwright never got I on the act seeing as they are " in touch on a daily basis. I can see a tit for tat mentality developing at the club were Moyes will keep them sweating on a deal. Maybe he is looking to move on elsewhere as he does have a point to prove and this years great start might just convince some richer clubs to have a crack at him. On the flip side, who is there to prise him away from us, all the other clubs seem to have settled managers at the moment so can't see him leaving us just yet. Any one else have any thoughts on this.
Chris James
4 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:10:06
I'm a definite Moyes fan so I want him to stay and would like to see a contract signed because it provides a sense of security to club and playing staff (i.e. it's harder to say to Felliani and Baines they should commit to the club project if Moyes himself hasn't).

That said, I wouldn't begrudge Davey a shot at another club if he thought he'd done all he could here (10 years is a decent stint in any job these days, nevermind the fickle world of football).

Ultimately though I think there's definitely an element of this contract being something DM can hold over Kenwright and the board to help ensure he gets the backing he needs in the transfer market to help keep this squad together and have a genuine run at it (which it appears we are doing this year!).

If we're still flying high come January I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more signings followed by a happy handshake amid cries of '5 more years' once the window has closed.

Roy Haygarth
5 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:11:36
My take on Moyes is that he is (and he sees himself as) a man of honour and integrity. Integrity, to him, means not breaking the contract he has made with the club. But that contract is up at the end of the year so his integrity would still be intact were he move on to pastures new.

I would not be at all surprised if he moved on when this contract is up at the end of this year. Maybe CL football next year might change his mind though...

Hope I'm wrong. We'll not find a better manager for the next ten years.

Brendan McLaughlin
6 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:49:08
"We'll not find a better manager for the next ten years"
Just repeating it Roy...absolutely no additional comment needed!
Kevin Day
7 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:13:42
There are a lot of Moyes bashers on this site, and I will be the first to admit that he does have a few flaws, but, without him we would of been relegated years ago.

I don't want him to go, and totally agree he is using his current position as a bargaining tool for getting players in. I for one will be standing on the hilltops shouting "5 more years".
Barry Rathbone
8 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:27:10
Kevin Day there are critics of Moyes but I've yet to see any make claims with the benefit of clairvoyancy you clearly posses.
Roy Haygarth
9 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:40:09
Glad you agree, Brendan.
Too many deluded Moyes-haters on this site.
Brendan McLaughlin
10 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:50:48
Barry #988
Lets be fair...many of the clairvoyants within the MOB have no problem in stating that with Martinez, Rodgers or Lambert in charge we'd have done a lot better in the last 10 years.


Barry Rathbone
11 Posted 29/09/2012 at 23:04:51
Brendan I really don't think anyone has said that.

Advocating change of manager yes, offering names yes ........ but saying said names had been in charge these last 10 years we'd have won the league or anything like it - no.

Brendan McLaughlin
12 Posted 29/09/2012 at 23:18:19
Barry #996
Are you saying they were advocating change of manager & offering names...simply to maintain the "status quo"? Surely in view of what Moyes has "achieved"they must at least be talking "Top 4" & CL.
John Ford
13 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:20:24
I'm a bit worried about this. I'm hoping it's a move by Moyes to get Kenwright off his luvvy arse and find decent investment for the club. Even if it were, I fear it won't work.
Kevin Day
14 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:20:10
Barry Rathbone, it's not clairvoyancey as you put it, it's just my opinion, how many managers have spent more than us and still been relegated? I'd say a few. The way things were going under smith can you be certain we wouldn't of fallen through the trapdoor?
Kase Chow
15 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:54:08
I hope he stays for another 10 yrs
Barry Rathbone
16 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:39:26
Brendan and Kevin,

Whatever peoples reasons, and they may well be what you say, they are aspirational not nailed on fact.

I really can't recall anyone claiming the Moyes years "WOULD" have had been trophy laden if Martinez etc were in charge.

The categoric "WOULD" as opposed to "possibly" in support of Moyes diminishes the argument as without the gift of clairvoyancy how do you know?

Any critics of Moyes saying we didn't have x,y or z manager during these Moyes years therefore the 3 league titles we "WOULD" have won would be equally pulled up.

Surely it's self evident?

Peter Hall
19 Posted 30/09/2012 at 13:34:03
Barry, you laugh at others' 'clairvoyance' but start the thread with speculation based on pure ignorance: 'I think he wants it' – let's be honest, what would you know?

We all know the answer to that.

Try enjoying the football and stop this endless tripe. Or come back when Everton are having a poor season when you've got a chance of your whingeing making some sort of sense.

Kevin Day
20 Posted 30/09/2012 at 16:23:01
Barry, maybe I should of originally used "probably" rather than "would'.

But I think most people would agree with what I was trying to say, but like I also said, it really is just my humble opinion.

Wayne Smyth
21 Posted 30/09/2012 at 17:14:46
I'm not sure that having the manager going into his last season of his contract is going to do anything for our top 4 ambitions this season. It may not be affecting the players at the moment, but just wait until January if we're still in a good position the media will run with it and Moyes will be linked with all sorts.

That said, I don't see him going anywhere. He's got it cushy at a club where there is no pressure to finish anywhere but the top 17 and a budget to work with that is bigger than most in the league. Not to mention the fact that he's one of the best paid managers too. Why would you move?

Only place he might go is Celtic, if something becomes available. I really can't see him being chosen for a job with the Sky 4.

Steve Guy
22 Posted 30/09/2012 at 19:21:14
If Moyes was miffed at not getting a 10th party bash as has been suggested in this thread; with the implication that he's leaving as a result, then quite frankly you wouldn't want someone that petty about.

I don't believe that for a second. Whatever faults DM may have pettiness isn't one of them.

We went through all this last time round and all I would ask is that Moyes signs up ASAP so it doesn't start to detract from Team performances as was the case four years ago. If he wants out he can always resign later !

Barry Rathbone
23 Posted 30/09/2012 at 19:34:17
Peter Hall 114

Yours is one of the worst posts I've ever seen on here.

You clearly haven't understood the argument, "speculation" has nothing to do with "fact" as Kevin graciously accepts in the post following yours.

So keep your nose out till you understand what's going on.

From the lack of logic and general snide in your post I reckon you're a multi ID merchant I've chewed up before - whoever you are (and I think I know) you're a bit dull aren't ya?

Jamie Barlow
24 Posted 30/09/2012 at 20:26:31
Multi ID merchant?

Are there people that do that?

Chris Leyland
25 Posted 30/09/2012 at 20:47:11
Come on Barry spill the beans on the "multi ID merchant" scam. Is it Doddy in secret from the newly refurbished Freshie? Is it Marshy after over dosing on the happy pills? Are all of us, in fact, just Michael and Lyndon's multiple personalities? Has anyone eer seen Michael as Lyndon in the same room. For that matter?
Kev Johnson
26 Posted 30/09/2012 at 20:56:52
Good question, Chris. I think the answer is "Yes, we ARE all MK's multiple personalities". The next question is: who is the killer?

I've got my suspicions...

Brendan McLaughlin
27 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:04:13
I'd have thought the site has some sort of controls built in to ensure that people don't post in multi-ID format. Not saying that some IT wizard couldn't find a way round them but seriously....who'd be arsed?
Steve Barr
28 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:00:26
One thing is a fact and that is we have won nothing under Moyes reign.

My personal belief is that we won't, even though we are playing well this season and I do like the look of the team. Certainly like some of the new blood he has brought in.

However, come the crunch matches, my assertion is that he will revert to type, defend at all costs and blow the chance. I'm still smarting from the league game capitulation v Liverpool last season, the semi-final debacle against said team and of course the FA Cup Final against Chelsea in 2009.

Similar poor performances in key games in Europe and the Mickey Mouse Cup come to mind!

These are all facts with end results, negative.

Who knows what other managers would have done?

However, I'm all for giving people fair chances to succeed. Moyes has had more than most and has come up short.

I'm enjoying this season so far, really impressed, but I don't expect we'll win anything based on Moyes's previous.

Brendan McLaughlin
29 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:15:17
Steve (#188)
What's a "crunch match"? Are there matches in the league that get you more than 3 points? Is every cup match not a crunch match cos if you lose at any stage... you're not gonna win a trophy?
Steve Barr
30 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:29:51
A semi-final, a Final, any game in a knock out competition... a derby is a crunch match regardless of points at stake. Psychological... just look at the Ryder cup as we speak. Regardless of the points at stake winning a game from an impossible position, nicking a draw against the run of play etC. etc. These are the finer points that can turn things around and inspire.

Don't see much of that under Moyes That's all.

Ian Bennett
31 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:18:19
Steve, I too don't expect to win anything with Moyes. However, for those sides outside of a genuine title chasing 2 or 3, I am not sure if other sides are chasing trophies either.

Managers (under instruction?) play weakened sides in he league cup and fa cup. The priority it would seem is survival, league placings or champions league. Football it would seem outside of two or three teams, is about making up the numbers, and that doesn't sit well with me.

I got criticised by Michael for saying that Moyes hadn't tried in the league cup before. However, with one of our best sides in years, and probably a pretty good chance of ending the drought, we surrender in Yorkshire with with a side with too many changes. Did he try this season? One of opinions I guess.

I was expecting him to get pelters for this defeat but many point that it will help a top 4 finish. This appears to be what football is about, keeps the club and players happy with more money to spend, but what's in it for us fans over silverware?

Brendan McLaughlin
32 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:34:55
Steve #192
No problem but you're not suggesting we've never won a game in a knock out competition or won a derby? Thing is every game where there is anything at stake is a crunch game & Moyes hasn't done too bad.
Steve Barr
33 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:42:03
Brendan,

I'm not really trying to be outrageous here. I agree, he's not done too bad. My point is, without being too pedantic, we've won nothing.

I reckon we could have won a couple trophies during his reign but his innate negative tendencies have come into play with the inevitable result.

My point is, he's had plenty of time to deliver something...notwithstanding our financial situation.

I don't agree that our financial situation alone is a good enough excuse and that we have had at least two great chances of silverware.

I don't expect we'll win the league under this current economic landscape, regardless of who our manager is.

That is another debate. What is clear is that buying glory is hollow as far as I'm concerned, and if something radical is not implemented to level the playing field then the game will diminish as a competitive spectacle.

Andy Meighan
34 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:40:53
To paraphrase Peter Barry he's a big game bottler. Numerous cup disasters is one thing but after 10 years never having won or even come close to winning over THERE is fucking criminal in my eyes.

Also never having won at any of the so called sky 4 let's face I mean c'mon there's teams in the Championship and league one who have gone too these places and won. But Moyes seems to shit himself when we play them why is that can anyone enlighten me on that.

Don't get me wrong he's done some great things in regards he's got a good eye for a bargain etc and brought some decent players through. But I fear while he's in charge we will remain plotless figuratively speaking. Having said all that who's out there that could do any better
Brendan McLaughlin
35 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:54:26
Steve #197
Fair play you don't strike me as the "outrageous" type. Suffice to say there's a lot in your last post I'd agree with & a lot I'd disagree with but nice to have had a discussion without it descending into the bile & vitriol that so often characterises exchanges on this forum. I know you'd be absolutely delighted if Moyes proved you wrong and fecking won something at long last!
Steve Barr
36 Posted 30/09/2012 at 22:15:22
Brendan,

I'd be ecstatic. I brainwashed my two sons to be Evertonians from birth and I get real joy exchanging banter, highs and lows with them every week.

They love it but have yet to experience what a lot of us have... Everton winning major trophies/the league! Let's hope someone can bring it back for us all!

Appreciate your comments.

COYBs

Brendan McLaughlin
37 Posted 30/09/2012 at 22:38:00
Andy #199
So in spite of Moyes being the "big game bottler" who never wins against the Sky 4 in their own back yard and with him in charge we'll remain "plotless" (potless?)...there's no-one out there who could do any better? Fuck that really is depressing for both the Apologists & the MOB alike!!!
Andrew Gilbert
38 Posted 30/09/2012 at 23:51:45
I have a feeling that if we finish 4th or better he will sign and stay. If we don't then I think he will opt to leave and take a break, do a bit of TV and wait for the call.
Ernie Baywood
39 Posted 01/10/2012 at 00:15:37
I agree with Moyes. This is only an issue if it becomes a problem for the players.

If it doesn't become a problem, and it shouldn't given half of the players can't say for sure where they'll be in 9 months, then let the bloke deal with his own contract and salary and stop making trouble!

Barry Conway
40 Posted 01/10/2012 at 10:16:09
I believe we will win something with Moyes in the next few (five even!!) years... I know he has maybe mistake over the years but what manager has not?

If you look over the history of the FA Cup and League Cup in the last 15 years, espeically the former, you will see that bar Everton in 95' and Man City last year, the rest is maybe up of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool; the League Cup is pretty much the same with a few exceptions: Birmingham, Blackburn and Spurs.

To use this stick to continuely beat Moyes with is highly unfair consideriing the postion he found the club and the place we are now. Five more years please because the club without Moyes and no sugar daddy is a place that we don't want to be.
Tony J Williams
41 Posted 01/10/2012 at 14:56:40
If he signs, he signs, if he doesn't I will put my support behind the new guy. The problems with the board will still be there though.

How many Everton managers have won the Milk Cup or whatever derivation it holds now?

Andy Crooks
42 Posted 01/10/2012 at 18:10:34
It would be admirable if David Moyes led by example and was the first to take the pay cut he advocated a while ago.
Jimmy Sørheim
43 Posted 01/10/2012 at 18:54:00
I think Moyes has had a couple of chances to win us a trophy, after all we did lose against Chelsea in the FA cup final.

The problem that has stopped Moyes in my view is that he has held on to or bought wrong players at crucial times.
Diniar Bilyaletdinov is one of those who Moyes missed the target completely on.

Moyes has been a bit shaky when spending large sums on certain players.
However, it looks like Moyes has learned a little during his time here, so his recent transfers has been more safe in that he seems to scout players a lot more before he buys these days.

Will Moyes ever win anything while at Everton?
I have my doubts, but this season could see us either do well in the league or win the FA cup.

The main problem will be keeping hold of Fellaini, if he is sold during this season then Moyes will have shot himself in the foot.
It will take time for a replacement to settle in, so if we qualify to CL then we should wait until we are in the group stage before selling.

I can not understand why Moyes put Mucha in goal against Leeds in the League cup, to me that does not make sense, from picking Mucha I can say that Moyes had no wish to win that game.
That attitude is below what I expect of an Everton manager, he should want to win every game!

No wonder we never go far in the league cup!!!

Mike Gwyer
44 Posted 03/10/2012 at 11:15:39
Andy #199

If you are going to slate Moyes then get it right:

Who are the sky 4 that you refer to? - we have won at City & Spurs, we have had opportunities at United & Arsenal, leading at both places and conceeding late goals (at the Emirates when Osman stopped play when through on goal to allow treatment on an Arsenal player - we were winning 1-0 at the time, player got treated and then the Arsenal equalise at the death. Was this Moyes fault? Even Wenger said that he doubted an Arsenal player would of done the same thing). You can argue about the RS all you want but basically we nearly always have to play the devils spawn AND the ref, linesman & fourth official as a combined team - its proven extremely difficult in the past so prepare for more of the same in about 3 weeks. Yep, last year at anfield was shite but we have had chances to win over the past 10 years, we have been leading but the devils spawn know how to use the men in black OR just plain kick the shite out of us.

Jimmy #329.

I know you dislike Moyes so the last month must of been giving you ulcers. Why can't you just watch the game - even MOTD have moved us up a few slots, Everton definately seem to be worth watching. Bring up Mucha? Bring up the "an Everton manager must want to win every game" sceanario as much as you like - guess SAF, AVB & Rodgers would piss you off totally - with them not winning every game.

I've had to watch shite in the 90's and things have gradually improved, so what I'm watching now, both and GP and away, is GOOOOOOOD!!!!! So what more do you want?? If you can't see that we are on to something then you are blind.

Oliver Molloy
45 Posted 03/10/2012 at 11:45:17
Bottom line is we need to a trophy. We have had the opportunities but failed due to poor tactics from the manager, that's my opinion.

If you were the owner of any of the Ssky 4 would you give a manager (Moyes) a job based on his record with EFC? ...I wouldn't!
Brendan McLaughlin
46 Posted 03/10/2012 at 22:28:49
Oliver #572
I'm going to go out on a limb here...and suggest you're not a Sky 4 owner. So its a bit like me (window cleaner) suggesting who should be Chancellor to sort the economy out. No offence to my fellow glass maintenance engineers.
Brian Waring
47 Posted 04/10/2012 at 15:49:26
We had all this from Moyes before he signed his last contract, and he came out of that with a bumper pay rise. Hope we're not seeing more of the same, because he's on a huge wad now and it would be disgraceful if he was given another bumper pay rise. Also, all this man of integrity, honest, players should take pay cuts etc, would go out of the window.

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