PL Chairmen agree break-even aim

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But new rules still need to be worked out
The Premier League took a significant step towards spending controls after agreeing in principle to make breaking even a necessity for clubs. The move was agreed by the majority of the 20 chairmen despite some ongoing opposition from a minority of clubs at a meeting in London today.

However the exact details of the spending controls have yet to be agreed — specifically around how much wealthy owners can put into the club to cover losses, sources close to the process have disclosed.

The club chairmen have now asked Premier League executives to bring back detailed plans on the spending controls for the next meeting on February 6, and on proposals to cap wage rises for players in the short term.

It is understood Manchester City, Fulham and Aston Villa remained opposed to any controls but only 14 of the 20 clubs are needed for the moves to go through.

Manchester United and Arsenal have been pushing for a pure break-even system similar to Uefa's financial fair play scheme for clubs in European competition.

A group of other clubs, including Wigan and Chelsea, are also in favour of a break even system but argue that wealthy benefactors should be permitted to put extra investment into clubs. The sticking point to any agreement is how much investment should be allowed, but the majority of clubs are agreed that this should only be in the form of equity and not loans.

The issue of wage control for players has also received broad support from the chairmen but again the details has yet to be agreed.

Sunderland owner Ellis Short has led the campaigning on this issue, arguing that clubs should be limited to either an overall percentage salary increase for their squads, or a fixed figure.

Manchester City last week became the first club to announce that their annual wage bill has topped the £200M mark.

Quotes or other material sourced from Sporting Life



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Matt Traynor
1 Posted 19/12/2012 at 08:11:22
Time for those creative accountants to earn their corn.
Man City also announced commercial revenue approaching £100m through their ludicrous lucrative sponsors with Abu Dhabi's airline, tourism board, mobile telephone operator etc. etc.

Their new training ground development will also be vastly inflated so the costs are hidden as "allowable expenses".

The only possible good news for Everton in all this is the increase in domestic and overseas TV money from next season should see us breaking even (even allowing for debt servicing), provided the players (and manager!) don't start demanding increased money on their next contracts.

Unilateralism doesn't work in football - a single league, or club within that league refusing to pay "the going rate" would simply not be able to sign anyone, and would lose its top players.

Spain is also about to revise its tax laws. Currently there's an entertainers tax rate, which is a lower rate of tax to allow the likes of buskers etc. to make a living. Of course, it also applies to professional sports - so for years players could effectively be signed on tax-free contracts. Now that Spain has realised it's in the shit financially, that's due to expire within the next 18 months (the reason why Ronaldo is "unhappy" at Real Madrid and wants someone to pick up his £280k a week tax free packet elsewhere).

Richard Scudamore at the Premier League was quite open in admitting he expected the last domestic TV deal to come in at lower than this current one. The fact it came in so much higher suggests that it was all just bluster and that News International would pay to hold on to it's key business driver (look at how Fox in the US has suddenly gotten more involved).

NewsCorp is interested in buying into Formula 1. If the Premier League ever decides to list (it shouldn't), they'd be all over it.

Brian Harrison
2 Posted 19/12/2012 at 09:29:53
I agree with what Matt has said that City will fund the club through sponsorship that they own. Also cant see Abramovich agreeing with not being able to buy a £50 million striker if that's his wish. A bit like asking turkeys to vote for Christmas, these guys wont want their buying power diminished.

So you can bet that if these proposals are voted through at their next meeting in February then their lawyers and accountants will have found ways to legally get round the new rules. I suppose even if they vote for a salary cap then somehow the players will get funded from sponsors for doing corporate days wink wink.

James Morgan
3 Posted 19/12/2012 at 09:27:07
Good news, hopefully this can lead to cheaper tickets but perhaps I'm clutching at straws! Safe standing probably would but that's a different thread all together.
Kieran Fitzgerald
4 Posted 19/12/2012 at 11:01:48
The wage cap will be set at some silly figure like 250k per week. You can't expect or hope that Rooney, Lampard et al to take a cut in wages, just as you can't expect or hope that new superstar signings will be happy to take a lot less than the superstars already at a club.

If we had the ability to sign a Van Persie or a Sneider or a Moutinho, do you think they would just go 'no problem lads, pay me half of what you're paying Baines or Felliani.'

There would be an exodus of top players to China or America or anywhere else where players can get silly money.

Stuart Gray
5 Posted 19/12/2012 at 11:17:41
I can't see that this is good news at all. Likely is that prices will have to rise so clubs can break even. And the rich clubs will keep on being successful and therefore getting richer.

If some miracle happens and we are sold to a wealthy benefactor, what are they going to be able to do? In fact, I'd wager this makes a sale even less likely.

Patrick Murphy
6 Posted 19/12/2012 at 11:29:28
I can't see how anything can be agreed, it's interesting how 2 of the old guard Man U and Arsenal are positioning themselves, they both already have the Stadiums and Sponsorship deals in place so they don't want new competition.

Chelsea and Man City don't want their sugar daddies to be hampered so they can provide for them in times of need(?) whilst Wigan don't want to lose the security and financial clout of Dave Whelan.

It would seem to me that Everton won't benefit from any new rules which may be adopted, although it would cover BK, he can say that we couldn't buy such and such a player or we have to sell our top players because it's against PL rules to do otherwise ....might have to get used to that one being trotted out every transfer window.

Of course it wouldn't be worth selling the club because a new owner wouldn't be able to invest in the club so you might as well stick with someone who can't invest in the club.

Jim Knightley
7 Posted 19/12/2012 at 11:40:07
Or perhaps Stuart, it makes a sale more likely? as the gap between the top and bottom will be lessened if some of the big spenders are reigned in, and good management and sensible spending, instead of big pockets, become again important to footballing achievements?

It is idealistic still...and teams will of course look for ways around it, but it is the move in the right direction for the purposes of sustainability, even if it could be considered somewhat problematically economically.

Kevin Tully
8 Posted 19/12/2012 at 11:30:29
You can quite easily bend these rules through sponsors deals and performace related bouses etc.

If an exremely wealthy club wants a star striker to sign for them, and the figures don't match their break even position, does anyone think it would scupper the deal?

Peter Laing
9 Posted 19/12/2012 at 12:08:38
Interesting article on the KEIOC website regarding Everton's continued failure in terms of commercial revenue. The deals that Liverpool have in place with Warrior compared to Everton's with Nike mean that they effectively get to wear a no-mark brand and crap kit with the added bonus of £20 million of revenue in return, and we get to wear a marque brand with a return in revenue akin to a Club such as Barnsley who I noticed sported the same kit in red at the weekend. Such an example tells you all that you need to know regarding Everton's commercial affairs, the spin though is that we have brand association with Nike and to many the smoke and mirrors employed by the Club continue to pervade.
Brent Stephens
10 Posted 19/12/2012 at 12:12:56
Stuart "Likely is that prices will have to rise so clubs can break even".

But I can't see demand being inelastic in the face of ever increasing price rises. We don't get full houses for all games at GP because not enough people can afford ticket prices as they are.

Denis Richardson
12 Posted 19/12/2012 at 12:03:09
At least they are talking about the problem although I doubt the above will do anything to make things better. At the end of the day all the teams will look out for themselves first so all the sugar daddy backed clubs will be against the above and those who already have strong commercial revenue will back it.

Its at least a step (all be it small) in the right direction but will probably not lead to much, already mentioned, for every rule some accountant/lawyer will find a way around it.

I think there should be a rule that no one person/company is allowed to own more than 49% of any club and that a supporters trust or equivalent should own at least 51% of the club. Also no club should be allowed to become over indebted, otherwise points will be deducted, it should not just happen when the club is in administration - by that stage its already too late.

Also a lot more prize money should be given to the lower leagues. It was a massive mistake by the FA to allow the premier league to be formed in the first place (not sure how much choice they had in the matter) as the lower leagues have been left far behind...

Brian Waring
13 Posted 19/12/2012 at 14:06:26
Peter, our kit wasn't thought up by designers, it is just a basic off the shelf Nike design, as you said, Barnsley have the same kit, also Leyton Orient and a few more.
Dan Brierley
14 Posted 19/12/2012 at 18:31:11
Peter, when we were with Le Coq Sportif, there was a big moan that we were not with a global brand kit manufacturer. Now that we are with Nike, you suggest it is smoke and mirrors by the club?

Do the redshite get an extra 20 million because they have a good commercial department? Or is it possibly something to do with the fact they are a worldwide brand due to winning the CL? Was Man City's extra 100 million in revenue due to a huge improvement in their commercial department, or more down to success on the field?

Do you also have inside info that the US do have aliens in area 51? Or maybe another slant on who killed JFK?

Chris James
15 Posted 20/12/2012 at 09:58:55
The problem is player wages pure and simple, they are totally out of sync with most club revenues, not to mention the real world.

Footballers are ludicrously overpaid for what they do (even the 'stars') and whilst I appreciate the premier league has to protect it's interests and won't want an exodus, I'd be more than happy to see the mercenaries fuck off elsewhere to get a payoff (more like Russia or China than US) and for more homegrown players to have a chance to develop their game even if it meant shitter football for a while and less 'English' teams in the Champions League.

To be honest, considering the ownership and playing roster, I'm not sure how 'English' any of the top 4 is anyway.

Patrick Murphy
16 Posted 20/12/2012 at 10:30:07
One way which may help the situation is to have a maximum squad size and end the loan deals for PL clubs.

If the likes of City and Chelsea were unable to grab all the players and then farm them out, it would make more players available to the rest of the clubs.

Availablility of players may increase competition and reduce wages a little.


Paul Andrews
17 Posted 20/12/2012 at 15:55:09
Anyone who thinks the big clubs won't ride a coach and horses through the proposed FFP regulations is naive to say the least.
Peter Mills
18 Posted 20/12/2012 at 22:58:21
Chris James #063, admirable sentiments. However, the problem is that when you take your Van Persies, Matas and Aquerros out of the league the whole standard plummets and teams like Stoke find that their playing styles are even more effective and what is currently a very talented spectacle plummets.

That's not to say your suggestion is wrong. I suspect the whole focus of football is going to head east pretty quickly, following the money as everything does. The best players will go there, and our magnificent Premier League will disappear as quickly as it developed. Some teams like Chelsea and Man City will probably establish themselves over there as it becomes a global league. Where that leaves us is anyone's guess, probably relegated by default as we were when the Premier League started.

Ciarán McGlone
19 Posted 20/12/2012 at 23:46:33
Who cares how 'English' the top teams are..

The product is what it is, fantastic.

If you wanna watch shite then BBC Scotland is available on freeview.


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