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Battling Blues pile more misery on Pardew
, 2 January,Newcastle United 1 - 2 Everton
Everton came back from conceding a sloppy early goal to take all three points thanks to substitute Anichebe's winner on the hour mark. With Ba in talks at Chelsea, Cisse capitalised on poor defending to loop a header home after just 72 seconds but Baines rifled a stunning 30-yard free kick past the impressive Krul to make it 1-1 at half time. A top-drawer move won it, though, when Jelavic collected Fellaini's pass and squared it for Anichebe to convert with his first touch. The Blues back on track!Match Summary
Jelavic was offside in the first minute and from the free kick, Everton allow the ball too bounce and Cisse calmly nodded it over Howard into the Everton net onside 71 seconds. Astounding!
Cisse could have made it 2 on 4 mins if he'd anticipated a good cross that got right behind the dreamy Everton defence. Baines got in a good cross before Tiote tripped Pienaar, setting up a threatening free-kick that Baines very nearly curled in, forcing a superb save from Krul. A fantastic ball forward from Heitinga had four Everton players looking to profit but Krul was out decisively to deny Baines in a very lively start to the game.
Everton looked to keep possession well until Osman surrendered it very cheaply leading to another Newcastle attack. Distin had to intercept another good cross and from the throw-in Howard needed to be alert.
Everton looked to build calmly but Krul was a match for every cross, while Howard was equally decisive at the other end as the game settled into more of a midfield tussle. Tiote tripped Osman for another free-kick that Baines swung in but no follow-up as Jelavic went wide again to have any possession.
The long ball to Fellaini and nod down to Jelavic wasn't really working too well for a variety of reasons: fouls, offside, timing, as Everton looked for different ways to get behind the Newcastle defence. Another free kick saw Naismith nod down but Krul saved comfortably. Pienaar then played a hard low cross to Fellaini but his brilliant shot was straight at a defender's leg, as the Blues cranked up the pressure...
But a period of pressure by the homeside ended with Perch heading a free kick off the post with Howard beaten. Pienaar got into great space in front of Krul but once again the keeper denied Everton an equalizer their enterprising play deserved.
Big screams for the Toonies for a penalty when Ameobi flung himself at the stationary Neville, bounced off him and collapsed in a heap. Cisse was then booked and another free kick was swung in by Baines and defended away as half-time approached. Baines got another bite of the cherry after Fellaini was fouled and an absolutely fantastic Exocet of a shot from 30 yards out came through the wall and bamboozled Krul, streaking into the back of the net... Brilliant from Baines!
Heitinga got shown the yellow card for a foul and a free-kick that could have been problematic but the wall did it's job as Jelavic struggled against the linesman's flag. He finally did get free but was a tripped by Williamson who collected a yellow, with Fellaini getting called for doing very little from the free kick. Naismith continued to not impress, getting a chance for a cross played straight to a stripped shirt, leading to a crazy goalmouth scrum from the corner.
As Everton flagged a little, David Moyes decided on an early switch (58 mins!), bringing Anichebe on in place of Naismith who had been poor, but not before Ameobi came very close, flicking the ball past Howard and his left-hand post. And seconds later, Anichebe had the ball in the net, a really class goal made by Jelavic's run down the left channel an a perfect ball in that Anichebe converted deftly with his first touch of the game. A very impressive goal to silence the Toonies!
Obertan tried to duplicate Jealvic's run and was forced to shoot, with Howard equal to it. Obertan was then replaced by Bigirimana. Newcastle looked to repeat the play on their goal but this time Everton won a free-kick to end the danger.
Tiote finally saw the yellow his play had merited from the off with a late and dangerous clatter on Baines, whikle at the other end, Cisse had not one but two bites of the cherry, a header at Heitinga and a shot that Howard was very grateful to gather on the line at his feet. The Blues were living a little dangerously until a tricky ball in by Baines kicked up and almost fooled Krul who reacted well to tip it over, and more argey-bargy for the corner, Martin Atkinson struggling to keep order.
Fellaini cleverly stole the ball and went on a run that was illegally and dangerously terminated by Tiote inside the Dee, and another free-kick, this time Baines curling it over the wall and around the post. Tiote was wisely withdrawn, the other Ameobi coming on in his pace With no margin for complacency,
Neville and Anichebe managed to clash heads jumping for the same ball, both requiring extended treatment, and both having to leave the field. A completely ridiculous ruling. A massive chance for Newcastle was thwarted by Howard as Everton rocked a little until Pienaar went on a run and a weak shot. Then Osman was in the right place to block away a shot that had the beating of Howard.
5 mins on the clock saw Everton holding on to their slender lead against more and more desperate attacking from Newcastle, Ranger replacing Perch, with Oviedo replacing Jelavic for 6 mins of added time. Everton played it out with increasing confidence to carry home three more vital points.
Newcastle: Krul, Perch (87' Ranger), Williamson Y:, Coloccini, Santon, Obertan (68' Bigirimana), Anita, Tiote Y:, Marveaux, Shola Ameobi, Cisse. Subs: Elliot, Sammy Ameobi, Ferguson, Tavernier, Abeid.
Everton: Howard, Jagielka, Heitinga Y:, Distin, Baines, Naismith (58' Anichebe), Neville, Osman, Pienaar Y:, Fellaini, Jelavic (88' Oviedo). Subs: Mucha, Hitzlsperger, Gueye, Vellios, Duffy.
Referee: Martin Atkinson
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2 Posted 02/01/2013 at 19:29:03
3 Posted 02/01/2013 at 19:28:34
Jagielka Heitinga Distin Baines
Naismith Neville Osman Pienaar
Fellaini
Jelavic
That's the team, should be enough but this is Everton!
4 Posted 02/01/2013 at 19:29:56
5 Posted 02/01/2013 at 19:35:34
6 Posted 02/01/2013 at 19:35:07
7 Posted 02/01/2013 at 20:32:26
8 Posted 02/01/2013 at 20:33:56
10 Posted 02/01/2013 at 20:45:03
11 Posted 02/01/2013 at 20:49:56
Naismith has been very poor though.
12 Posted 02/01/2013 at 20:49:39
13 Posted 02/01/2013 at 20:52:18
14 Posted 02/01/2013 at 21:05:06
15 Posted 02/01/2013 at 21:07:14
16 Posted 02/01/2013 at 21:55:12
17 Posted 02/01/2013 at 21:56:50
18 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:00:13
19 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:00:44
Big Vic played really well when he came on, no smacking the grass and crying just good, intelligent play... and the Baines free kick — best I've seen from an Everton player in years.
Top team performance and if we can keep seedy little Redshites off the forum that would be a big help too. :)
20 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:02:31
21 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:00:33
Brilliant free kick for Bainseys goal and brilliant build up play for big Vics, never been a fan of Vic but since he's come back into the side, he deserves all the pluadits coming his way at the moment. Well done blues !!!
22 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:04:58
24 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:06:17
25 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:06:25
Couldn't agree more...just as well the team don't throw the towel in as quickly as some forum contributors
26 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:08:28
27 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:08:02
28 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:07:03
29 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:03:39
Breath a big sigh of relief at the end of the second.
Unusually, Fellani’s fist touch appeared to be letting him down.
From the starting 11, apart from Bains and Distan, I don’t think anyone really stood out as having particularly strong performance.
Oviedo did well when he came on.
30 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:08:26
31 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:10:41
32 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:09:34
Keep it going Blueboys. I was made up when Bainsey got the equaliser as they had already started time-wasting.
33 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:09:01
35 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:09:38
If we could get Ofoe in and Mirallas and coleman back then we could be looking very handy indeed.
36 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:10:50
37 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:13:51
38 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:13:16
39 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:07:50
40 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:16:12
41 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:15:40
42 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:15:21
43 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:20:22
44 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:19:07
The best attacking left back I have ever seen in a blue shirt and at this rate could challenge the peerless Ray Wilson as the best we have ever seen.
45 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:21:26
46 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:11:09
47 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:28:09
48 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:04:06
49 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:17:49
After Newcastle's recent beatings I thought "here we go.. do the usual, throw a lifeline to a drowning opponent" - but no!
Sidled up there and whipped their stripey arses.
Very encouraging this new Everton, playing well consistently with a bit of resolve.
We won't be better than 6th but fair play this is just the sort of fixture we'd of lost in the past.
50 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:31:15
51 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:28:12
I do feel that Naismith is just out of his deph, like Kenny Miller & Boyd when they came to England.
52 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:28:19
Baines has my MOM, with Anichebe coming 2nd.
Heitinga didn't look composed at all today, he could of cost us the game.
Also Naismith was very lackluster, poor first touch and passing albeit he does work tremendously hard at times.
Well done lads, Mirallas and Coleman should be back for the Swansea game at home, hopefully we can push on now.
53 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:32:47
Moyes doesn't do hugs for the youngsters, just the cane!
54 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:37:30
55 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:31:53
So glad we haven't done our usual faltering and letting them back in in the last 10 mins. Onwards!
56 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:39:24
57 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:31:54
Both goals were gems, thought Vic was a true front man when he came on.
I thought Felli put himself about quite well and caused them problems. 3 out of 4 wins is brilliant considering the missing players we've had. Well done lads and Moyes.
58 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:41:11
Why can't we finish higher than 6th we're only 2 points behind Chelsea albeit they have a game in hand.
59 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:34:37
Naismith is just awful. 1st touch is crap, tries to put the early ball in too much, opposition get round him far too easily. He's just not cut out for it..regardless of previous injuries.
Howard.....He's just lost it completely. Desperately need Butland.
Still, a superb 3 points away from home. Was anyone else a bit gutted not to see Vic in the starting line up??
60 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:33:01
61 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:36:04
I don't understand how Heitinga is still getting a game at centre half what has Duffy got to do to get a game! Lacks pace, poor in the air, gets caught out of position and he has played like that all season.
I wouldn't criticise Naismith too much, he looks as though he is getting played out of position. He works hard but its like playing Osman out there, he's never going to be at his best.
Keep Victor on the bench he looks a lot more effective coming on as a sub than he does starting the game. Finally the board really do have to get their finger out and give Moyes some support this January, he deserves to get some backing for the attempt at getting that 3rd/4th spot.
62 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:47:52
63 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:17:30
Otherwise brilliant. Loved Baines free kick just for the look on his face. How many are going to go into Krul's gloves?.. NOT THIS ONE PAL!!!. It was obvious what he was going to do. Pick that one out.!!!
Anichebe eh? Not everyone's favourite but I'd take him ahead of Jelly to put a chance away at the moment. Great if they were both on song but the Slav seems to have lost the song sheet!! Even so it was a great assist!
Pardew in a different league??? That's so funny it's gone beyond sad!!! And he gets wrong off Sir 'I can say what I want' Fergy 'red nose'. If it wasn't so funny you'd blame the refs. (And that one tonight seemed like his brain was in gear and his eyes were pointing forwards!!!!)
All-in-all... 'HAPPY NEW YEAR THE BLUES'
64 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:54:40
Naismith has got to be the worse player in the squad slow, poor touch, unfit how he keeps getting a game I will never know lets ship him back up to Scotland and give the other lads a chance.
65 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:45:59
And the nature of a live forum is that it is reflective of what is happening at certain points, how people are nervous, and frustrated by needlessly losing possession, and it is very helpful for those not being able to see the game. The possession stats on the BBC are our worst of the season (42%) so a great result but worrying in another sense.
66 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:43:42
Didn't think Felli was awful as some have said, but it took him a long time to get into the game and it wasn't one he was imperious in. Thought a lot of our play was strangely sloppy; not as though players weren't trying, just that they were unusually clumsy. A sign of fatigue perhaps?
Was Barkley not even on the bench? Unless he is injured it seems like an over-reaction to his mistakes against Chelsea. A fair few players lost possession too easily in tonight's game.
67 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:19:25
68 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:05:50
Surely this is part of being a passionate supporter of Everton FC, I want them to succeed and so, when players are not performing, I find it difficult to manage my feelings and hence I vent my frustrations at the said player who in my opinion is not performing.
Having said this, when my beloved Everton are playing well, then I am only to eager to praise and convey my feelings of well-being onto these players and let them know just how well they are doing.
Swings and roundabouts, the site is a great way of letting off steam or indeed affirming to the players through the medium of the internet how much we value Everton and that we are passionate and feeling fans.
70 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:02:55
I thought it was a below par performance but it' s great to pull off a victory from such games.
Very shaky at the back and I thought he should have taken Heitinga off for Hitzlesberger and put Neville to RB.
I've hoped all season that Naismith would improve but I''ve pretty much lost that hope. Santon is a very poor left back and he should have had a much better game.
Victor played well but looks like he has so much more to offer.
I think we'd have taken 9 from 12 at the beginning of the festive period so happy days especially with Rafa's rotation going tits up.
71 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:57:39
But the problem we have is very obvious to me. We concede far too easily. Improve the defense and we will win those games we have been drawing.
72 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:57:36
Our centre backs must always be Jags and Distin, they are both better tacklers, blockers, headers and quicker than JH.
If we don't have a decent right fullback then we should put Pip there and Anichebe on the right until Mirallas is fit to return.
I would try Howard, Pip, Jags, Distin, Baines, Fellaini, Osman, Oviedo and Pienaar with Vic wide right and Jelly up front.
Surely Duffy must be better than a rapidly fading Heitinga otherwise he may as well be allowed to go.
I believe that Baines has become the best left back we have ever had and I am old enough to have seen all Ray Wilsons games.
He has improved out of all proportion and could play with anyone in front of him.
Imagine him behind Bale !!!!!!!!!
73 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:48:09
Just to be realistic, as you phrase it, it is my opinion, that Naismith is not and never will be good enough, Howard has great strengths but is a liability, Johnny, the hard man, has lost it, the ground at Goodison is poor, dated and needs starting again, and the facilities within it are poor, in Top Balcony it is like in a time warp in terms of customer facilities, no chairs in the area where one is supposed to eat, the toilets, no hot water, and access to those toilets at half time is like a rugby scrum.
The club must be stupid. Allowing clients to take food bought elsewhere in to the stadium, er um, dim. No chips, no curry sauce in the ground, that is where one pays £500 quid a year for a ticket, and please read Ken's contributions about the thriving Blue Dragon and the queues there before that last comment is discounted. They do not even make it easy to spend your hard earned with them.
75 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:14:37
76 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:17:38
Forgot to mention
If there is a better left back than Leighton Baines in English football at the moment then wrap me in hessian and dye me purple. He makes that Arsenal poorboy look sad and tired.
77 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:09:40
Also, while I thought Naismith was crap tonight, he is not a right winger. He seems like a lad who will play anywhere he is asked, & he is likely to get the odd goal, so let's cut him a little slack,eh?
I thought Anichebe was brilliant when he came on - he's scored some really important goals in the last year and a half.
Jelavic looks woefully out of form though. I hope I am wrong,but I have got a nagging doubt that he was on the crest of a wave last year. This year he doesn't look the same player. 6 goals in 21 games I think that is now - we need more from him. Maybe he needs a rest. Hopefully we can do without him at Cheltenham,& he can come back in fresh, because although he set up the 2nd tonight,he did very little else,& didn't even look like scoring again.
All in all, a great win though.
78 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:24:48
79 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:16:21
Even if you accept that Tim Howard is significantly worse than 99% of the current goalkeepers (which I don't) do people really think we have (at least) £5 million to spend on Butland! Please just shut up about this signing. It is never going to happen as it isn't a priority.
Trevor (#690), are you talking to all the Spurs fans currently on Toffeeweb, 'cause there is no way that Gareth Bale is ever going to play in front of Baines for EFC?
80 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:36:40
81 Posted 02/01/2013 at 22:51:30
83 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:30:08
With that in mind, Nick #675, just to be clear, abuse of players is not right is it?
84 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:24:49
85 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:04:50
Tonight we have won what I think is our hardest league fixture until Man U on 10th Feb. If we can just get Mirrallas fit, get Jelavic scoring goals and one or two loan deals (preferably attacking ones) I can see us scoring the amount of goals our performances have warranted. A few spankings will then take place that really will make the league sit up and take us seriously. The most impressive thing for me is our consistency. Some of our players were running on empty tonight but the effort and quality was still too much for Newcastle. I genuinely believe 70 points is a realistic target this season but we'll see I suppose. This Everton team are starting make a believer out of me.
86 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:46:16
Total wankfest.
Best to save the best till last.
87 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:36:22
My stream was very poor, so I'm not sure if this is true, but didn't Jelavic set Vic's goal up? If he's not scoring, cutting back for another player to tap in is the next best thing, so not a waste of space by any stretch.
Some strange criticism on here (well, I never...), but, as I said, my stream was poor as most people on the forum seemed to concur.
Firstly, Fellaini was pretty good for me. His ability to dispossess the opposition is very exciting, albeit against a very poor Newcastle squad.
Is Jags that bad at RB? I acknowledge that he's playing there because Moyes sees Neville as needed in CM (cough cough) and Coleman and Hibbo out leaves us with noone else, but I think he's doing an okay job.
Naismith is not good enough for us, but I can see why Moyes selects him, as he is back to clear and help the defence out quite a bit.
The jury seems to be in on Vic here, and most people are on his side, but I still think starting him is a mistake. He has proven that he can score an important goal (has he scored in a loss yet?), but coming off the bench around the time he did is his forte. Would like to see him assert his size and (apparent strength) more - he's not a kid anymore.
My only criticism/query of the night was why bring Jelavic off with five (10) to go? Surely five minutes extra isn't going to ruin his fitness, and if he's not on the field, he's not going to break his "drought".
89 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:51:51
91 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:52:34
Hopefully Coleman and Mirallas back in time for Swansea to replace him on the right.
Welldone the lads, great performance..
92 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:51:13
Personally, I think all our defenders (never mind just the centre backs) are capable of a rick or two, so simply replacing Distin will not resolve all our defensive frailties. Of the current available pairings, Jags and Distin seems the most reliable (though that is a relative term).
93 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:05:10
94 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:05:21
97 Posted 02/01/2013 at 23:49:54
Jagielka is fucking awful at R.B, but works well at centre half with Distin - time to wave goodbye to Heitinga, a liability every time he plays.
When people talk about Baines for £15m, they must be on LSD, he is one the best left backs in the world, easily worth £25-30m.
Apart from too much hoofing from Jagielka, we could have easily killed this game off on the counter and got a third, instead of looking to hold a lead for the last 10 mins plus 6 mins added time. You will never see a genuine top 4 side trying to see out a 2-1 with all that time left on the clock. How many times was a break on but we fucked about ? That could have easily bitten us on the arse.
A great result and it leaves the door open for us to really go for it, I just wish we had a board our support deserve.
98 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:05:48
We beat Newcastle where they are always hard to beat and the fact that they are missing loads of players gets mentioned time and again. Of course we had all our first choice available..... not!!!!
Worst of all, they run an info-mercial obviously designed to convince one of the super-rich clubs that they just can't live without signing our left back.
99 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:17:02
100 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:08:59
I know we're short on numbers but Pip at right back, and Jags and Buzz at centre back must be a more solid set up than tonight's, with a suspect middle and a right back who can't pass or cross a ball.
Pending the return of KM or Seamus I'd be inclined to find a place for Victor on the right, he's done it before and finally looks like he is realising his potential (and the fact that he's a good player)
101 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:11:42
Sorry guys to rant on I watched the whole Everton game and I thought we deserved to win and played the vast majority of attractive football on show. Find Moyes some money Kenwright and lets finish above these RS arseholes again.
102 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:17:49
103 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:20:56
104 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:30:07
I think tonight's result was one of our most important for a long time, problem is, every result between now and the end of season may have something riding on it...let's hope so anyway.
105 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:29:11
That being the same RB who crossed for the goal against Chelsea then Derek?
106 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:43:25
107 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:46:59
A right back he is not!
108 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:42:45
Naismith however is just not good enough. The sooner Mirallas gets off the treatment table the better as we just have zero threat down that right hand side at present. Would love to see a partnership develop between Kev and Seamus.
Still, 3 more points in the bag and hopefully Moyes can convince Kenwright to take out one more shonky loan to get some squad depth!
109 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:47:21
110 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:49:07
What a goal by Baines, goal of the season contender for sure.
I'm not a massive fan of Anichebe but cant fault the lad for coming on and doing that, he seems to have taken a step up since last season.
Looking at the next few fixtures (famous last words!), we should be able to pick up some point, although hasnt someone said that before ?
Great win just when we needed it.
111 Posted 03/01/2013 at 01:00:08
112 Posted 03/01/2013 at 00:58:05
Didn't we play Victor on the right last year? Why not try it again for a few games until super Kevin is back, and play Vellios up to. I'd like to see Vellios and Felli playing up top with Baines's crosses coming in.
Oviedo again looked good for the 10 mins he got to play
113 Posted 03/01/2013 at 01:00:09
114 Posted 03/01/2013 at 01:02:58
115 Posted 03/01/2013 at 01:01:21
116 Posted 03/01/2013 at 01:28:47
Howard; Jagielka, Duffy, Distin, Oviedo; Naismith, Neville, Barkley, Pienaar; Fellaini, Anichebe
That's based on what we've currently got because the right side is struggling, the need to rest certain players (Ossie, Baines and Jelly) and, given that Barkley looked very decent in the Championship, perhaps he should get a game here? Neville would also protect Barkley in the middle of the park. I also think Duffy needs game time. He played ok this time last season and has barely got a look in since.
118 Posted 03/01/2013 at 02:17:04
Was it just me or were they lucky to finish with 11? I thought at least cisse and Tiote committed bootable offences when on yellows already. Tiote's lunge on Jags was a real leg breaker and almost a straight red. Seriously, poor Fellaini, 3 of them hacked and stamped him on the edge of their box and he sat there ruefully, not a card for anyone.
Something like 20 fouls to 10. Nice work to keep focused and playing the ball.
As for their goal, Distin put a nice body check on but I think he thought it was to make it easier for Heitinga to win the aerial ball... Heitinga I think assumed Distin was going for the ball. Rubbish communication and under 9 standard goal :(
119 Posted 03/01/2013 at 02:21:56
Would have thought it was obvious to any manager who may be interested in taking it on; if Baines is bombing forward someone has to be prepared to back him up.
120 Posted 03/01/2013 at 02:28:02
Rest him if he wants it and see if Vellios is looking good enough over the 90 minutes.
122 Posted 03/01/2013 at 03:19:29
Now we are all on Naismith's back yet the boy works his socks off and does the defensive stuff obviously to Moyes's satisfaction. If he continues to improve game by game, then we should give him a chance to come good and maybe win us over. I've seen things in his game that are very good and yes some absolute crap. Remind me how many millions of pounds we paid for him?
123 Posted 03/01/2013 at 04:25:22
124 Posted 03/01/2013 at 05:30:57
125 Posted 03/01/2013 at 06:48:42
126 Posted 03/01/2013 at 07:41:52
To be clear I'm not talking about 'hoofball', the long ball has its place, I mean the ball played by a defender in to the opposition half, giving away possession to alleviate perceived pressure.
In my opinion our defenders take this option too willingly when we have players in our midfield (Pienaar, Fellaini and to a lesser extent the others too) who are very capable of receiving and 'screening' the ball, drawing a foul, passing back or even hoofing themselves if absolutely necessary.
We too often gift possession to the opposition which was particularly disappointing against Chelsea because you know we are going to have to endure wave after wave of attack.
If by some miracle we do achieve Champions League football next year, we cannot squander the chance to rest and 'manage' the game.
128 Posted 03/01/2013 at 08:27:24
Naismith excels in work ethic and attitude but last night to me it looked as though his ability was insufficient. Of course thats just one game but it continues a trend. He did win the ball back a few times but he also gave it away lots and was beaten very easily by the winger, as a result we looked shaky on the right whilst simultaneously offering little or no threat from that side.
He seems a good lad and i'm sure he does have more ability in him but at the moment he's not showing it and does not deserve a starting place in my mind when Oviedo, who looked very bright and useful, is sat on the bench. Hopefully Mirallas comes back soon as he is clearly first choice for that spot.
129 Posted 03/01/2013 at 08:26:58
The only one who rises above it is McManaman, boyhood blue, pissed them off with his contract run down, and clearly brighter and funnier than all the other pundit wannabes, he's likeable and credible. However, we do need a slanted or biased voice on our side because this media bullshit spreads its tentacles globally and we always end up with that particular short straw. I'm in Canada but you lot should protest to fuck....get your fingers out!
130 Posted 03/01/2013 at 08:47:14
However I don't think we should underestimate how encouraging it is that we keep coming back from losing positions.
Agreed with comments on Naismith, he really does look out of his depth and without a real strength to hang your hat on as to why he's in the team. If I was big Vic I'd consider I'd earned a start.
Jella is struggling but he was integral in that wonderful move for the second. He was also a whisker away from an equalising header against Chelski. I think he just needs to get through this lean patch.
And several important saves from Howard again (despite his detractors), GK is not our priority to strengthen the team.
131 Posted 03/01/2013 at 09:02:25
132 Posted 03/01/2013 at 09:31:15
3 points = Something must have gone right, so why do we need to consistently change the formation. The same team, pretty much, have just taken 3 wins out of 4 and the 1 game where we played the better football we lost.
Cheltenham next, I hope that Moyes rests a couple, but not too many, just look at what happened with Leeds.
133 Posted 03/01/2013 at 10:26:16
134 Posted 03/01/2013 at 10:51:14
135 Posted 03/01/2013 at 11:04:21
Man U - W
Arsenal - D (Blues should have won)
Man C - D (Blues should have won)
Chelsea - L (Blues should have won)
Tottenham - W
The only team that have really beaten us is WBA.
This is the best squad we have had in the PL era, I don't think its unreasonable to be expecting at least 4th place finish. One tenth of the man c/chelski type investment and we will win the league. New Years Optimism?
136 Posted 03/01/2013 at 11:04:21
Man U - W
Arsenal - D (Blues should have won)
Man C - D (Blues should have won)
Chelsea - L (Blues should have won)
Tottenham - W
The only team that have really beaten us is WBA.
This is the best squad we have had in the PL era, I don't think its unreasonable to be expecting at least 4th place finish. One tenth of the man c/chelski type investment and we will win the league. New Years Optimism?
137 Posted 03/01/2013 at 10:13:12
Was Ossie knackered before kickoff or was he just snuffed out by stronger men? Rarely seen him so quiet.
All-in-all, a good performance where everyone worked their socks off. Oviedo looks sharp and talented.
138 Posted 03/01/2013 at 11:14:03
How do we continue to make such big losses despite such a low net spend on transfers?!! Grrrr. Does not make for a bright future.
139 Posted 03/01/2013 at 11:28:18
Sort it out Moyes, stop down playing little Leighton!
140 Posted 03/01/2013 at 11:40:40
141 Posted 03/01/2013 at 11:53:31
Baines has developed into a fantastic player under Moyes so when it comes to speaking publicly about Baines I'd suggest Moyes knows exactly the right buttons to push.
142 Posted 03/01/2013 at 12:22:40
Brendan, are you suggesting Moyes is trying to get more out of Baines?
He's that good I don't know how he can get even better!
143 Posted 03/01/2013 at 12:39:50
Yeah I think so. Did you hear Moyes response when asked about the Baines free kick? Basically it was along the lines of "superb but he should be doing it more often". When Moyes response was put to Baines he grinned and said something along the lines of Moyes probably being right.
144 Posted 03/01/2013 at 12:59:45
145 Posted 03/01/2013 at 13:02:24
146 Posted 03/01/2013 at 13:24:26
At the start of the coverage last night the presenter said "Newcastle begin the game in 15th position, just two points clear of the relegation zone. But with a win they could climb as high as........(pause as he actually looks at the table).........14th.
Don Goodman and Niall Quinn would out-cliche anybody. Some team (can't remember who) were conceding goals for fun the other night.
Gary Neville is a welcome addition but they're largely hilarious.
147 Posted 03/01/2013 at 13:29:40
148 Posted 03/01/2013 at 13:15:41
Newcastle had 6 decent chances to score.
1. Their goal. Ball over the head of Heitinga, possibly Distin and Baines might have done better but Heitinga was the one under it initially.
2.Perch header onto the post. He easily outjumps Heitinga who seems to just fall over.
3. Ameobi chance, just past the post. A simple ball over Heitinga who is caught ball watching in no-mans land. In the words of the commentator 'Heitinga's absolutely nowhere'
4. Obertan gets in and runs at Heitinga who back pedals before allowing obertan a clear shot from an angle which Howard saves well.
5. Jagielka misjudges a header which cisse then hits at goal, it hits Heitinga who is in the right place to make a block.
6. A through ball between Heitinga and Jagielka allows in Santon who forces another good save from Howard.
Anyway, a laborious way of saying that Heitinga is not very solid at the moment and is involved in alot of the chances that we are giving up. Never been totally convinced by him and given the high wages he is on I really hope Moyes does a Bilyatedinov and shifts him for some some fresh blood.
149 Posted 03/01/2013 at 13:33:20
I turned the sound off in the end.
150 Posted 03/01/2013 at 15:25:44
All in though, a 2 - 1 away win is great against any side and with the Baines's bullet flying in just makes rounds off a good festive season. talking of free kicks, does anyone remember Johnny Methgod's goal of the season for Notts Forrest in the 90s??
151 Posted 03/01/2013 at 16:29:11
152 Posted 03/01/2013 at 17:33:41
Point accepted but listening to lineker and lawrenson et al is actually embarrassing. I know its trivial but fuck me its annoying! Sky Sports is way better, everyone seems to agree on Gary Neville too, a bloke who knows his stuff and is to the point which is what we all want.
Someone I know has subscribed to Fox Sports from USA. Theres some software you can download to change your IP address to US and then you can subscribe, hook your computer up to your tv and watch that.
The pick of any 3pm kick off, full coverage. Probably half the price too. Maybe thats the way to go to avoid the twats.
154 Posted 03/01/2013 at 18:12:22
156 Posted 04/01/2013 at 16:00:29
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