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Moyes calls on the '12th man'

by | 07/03/2013

David Moyes is hoping for more packed, raucous crowds at Goodison Park to help push the Blues forward in their quests for FA Cup glory and European qualification.

Citing the atmosphere created by the fans against Oldham, the manager says that the support of Goodison's 12th man play a big role in his team's chances between now and late May.

“It was a terrific crowd for the Oldham game.

“It was a midweek match that was live on terrestrial television, which most people have in their homes, and for us to have nearly 33,000 at the game shows the level of support we have here at Everton.

“Filling the stadium and getting behind the players in the run-in could make the difference to a strong finish to the season.”

Everton are in the middle of a sequence of five successive home games and have already won two of them 3-1. Wigan Athletic now stand between the Blues and another FA Cup semi final at Wembley.

Quotes or other material sourced from Liverpool Daily Post

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Paul Ellam
104 Posted 07/03/2013 at 15:48:51
I will not be at the game as I am in Munich on my stag do and, although I will be watching Bayern, I will have my phone on checking and hoping the lads do the business.

I can just picture the scene – ball just being passed about in the Bayern game, not a lot happening, and I jump up cheering cos I've seen that the Blues have scored! Then lots of German people looking at me in a very strange way... haha.

It will be worth it. COYB!!

James McPherson
112 Posted 07/03/2013 at 16:11:20
Says the man who is so committed he is on his way out of the club...

The man so committed he is just waiting to see which offer is the best....

A man who, in the meantime will trouser £65k per week.... all of which he is of course, legally and contractually permitted to do.

No gripe with that; just spare us the pontificating — it's fake... it's unnecessary.

Kind of reminds me of Robbie Williams and his like going doughey-eyed on Children in Need / Red Nose Day; multi-millionaires with offshore tax havens telling us to think of Africa... Bollocks of the lowest and most contemptible order.

Nick Entwistle
114 Posted 07/03/2013 at 16:18:17
That's the spirit, James, good lad.
James McPherson
118 Posted 07/03/2013 at 16:25:02
Nick, I note your sarcasm. From what I have seen it's your standard tack. I am putting my thoughts forward for more objective consideration. You can probably dip out of this one.
Phil Sammon
121 Posted 07/03/2013 at 16:34:36
“Filling the stadium and getting behind the players in the run-in could make the difference to a strong finish to the season.”

He's asking the fans to be noisy and get behind the players, James. I've done nothing but criticise Moyes lately and even I can't complain at this article.

Lighten up fella.

Dave Lynch
122 Posted 07/03/2013 at 16:36:59
What James said, with whistle and bells.
James McPherson
127 Posted 07/03/2013 at 16:47:11
Phil, fair response... However, Moyes is not even expressing a wish to stay. I think that changes matters.
Steve Cotton
128 Posted 07/03/2013 at 16:48:56
Or he could just have actually bought someone in January who could have made the difference. Then we might be flocking back in our droves to see the new lad banging them in...
Dennis Shaw
136 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:08:02
I love cup games at Goodison the crowd will be lifted because we will expect to win this comfortably and we will. I will definitely be losing my voice on Saturday and may even sing "we're on the march with Moysies army...."

James I know were you're coming from I haven't liked Moyes for years but I will be singing his name if he gets us through because we are stuck with him until summer so lighten up and get behind him and the team we can slate him after the next round when we are bound to face Citeh or Manure.

Tony Lea
137 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:14:28
Do some of you not know that Kenwright holds the purse strings so buying players is down to him. What do you want Moyes to say other than back the club and the team. Thats what he has done for the last 10 years. How many trips did we have to Wembley before he arrived even if they have not brought the ultimate success. Who do you think will be an improvement on the current manager?
Eric Myles
140 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:03:47
Paul, what on earth are you doing getting married during the season? There's plenty of time in the summer for that when we aren't playing.
James McPherson
141 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:19:47
I will get behind the team...course I will....Everton belongs to me (us) not Moyes. I am not suggesting to not get behind the team...I am just commenting on Moyes' hypocrisy
Chris Cumisky
142 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:23:12
One more game and we are at Wembley, but as usual the toffeeweb moaners have to put a negative spin on it. Why do they support this club and why do they come on here if all they want to do moan at every opportunity?
Kevin Day
143 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:26:14
Tony Lea,

I guess the Moyes haters may just find out when he leaves, I bet a pound to a pinch that if he does leave, come December next year they will be wanting him back.
I live in the midlands, and alot of villa fans wanted O Neil out cos they didn't like his style, there not saying that anymore.

James McPherson
144 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:28:32
Tony, as with my comment on 141, I am saying nother other than Moyes is being hypocritical in his comments...nothing to do with his ability as a manager - or who might succeed him, or what we were like before his arrival.
James McPherson
146 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:32:45
This thread has somehow turned into Moyes in or out - not the debate. For the record I want him to stay - just goes to show that some people have lost ability to answer things objectively - site has become so entrenched Michael/Lyndon - Thought my point was relatively straight forward. Never mind.
Barry Rathbone
149 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:51:12
He's lost the plot Moyes.
Tony Marsh
150 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:50:45
This "one more win and we are at Wembley" nonsense is pathetic drivel. How about three more wins to lift the FA Cup? Or two more wins to make the final?

Going to a semi-final means fuck all. Why don't you want to win it? Is a day out at Wembley now considered success by our fan base? I think its hilarious to lower the bar so much.

We got to the semi-final last season and look what happened. I wished Sunderland would've knocked us out in the Quarter-Finals rather than roll over to the Shite at Wembley.

I thought winning the cup was the aim – not just a piss-up in London?

Sergio Pedregal
151 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:54:49
Here is a thought - maybe Moyse is not signing his contract to put pressure on BK find a buyer for the club, and maybe he wants the team to be successful to attract potential buyers, and maybe he wants the supports to show these buyers what a great club Everton is, and at the same time make the club more attractive to the top players.

If BK doesn't fine a buyer, can you blame him for wanting to move on to achieve success? So back Moyse all the way and give 120% - if you expect it from the club, why can't they expect it from their supporters....

Ben Jones
153 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:04:40
Never seen you say that before Barry
John Brennan
154 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:02:42
Even if the 12th man is somewhat subdued on Saturday, it may well be that Martinez makes changes because he will prioritise staying in the Prem to winning the FA Cup.
I'll be disappointed if they get a draw against us !
Kevin Hudson
155 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:55:27
That reminds me; Question Time's on tonight..

James, the irrelevant 'social commentary,' you pander has little to do with an FA Cup Quarter Final. Leave the soapbox waffle to Bob Geldof.

The man's under contract, he is serving said contract; Ergo, he is entitled/ expected to rally the fan base ahead of an important tie. There is no hypocrisy here at all. He is simply doing the job we are paying him to do right now. Next season, Que sera, etc...

Nick Waters
156 Posted 07/03/2013 at 17:49:06
Chris - is getting to Wembley the be-all and end-all for you? Given the draws we have had this year in the FA cup, getting to Wembley is the baseline expectation, (though I appreciate it doesn't always work out that way). I think we should be getting beyond the semi-finals before getting really worked up.
And as for the 'moaners' what are you trying to suggest instead - slavish, non-questioning, uncritical loyalty? If things are not quite right can paying supporters not suggest something they think is better to the highly paid CURRENT employees of the club that we have supported all our lives and will continue to do when they have departed?
On this site Evertonians should continue to engage in passionate debate without being censured with comments like yours.
Tony Lea
158 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:02:24
Sorry James if I misinterpreted your comments that Moyes is on his way out and waiting for the best offer. Not that any of us know what Moyes is thinking so perhaps calling him a hypocrite is based on fiction not fact.
Phil Walling
159 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:09:04
For the seventhish time-Moyes is going nowhere.
Unless he gets a better offer.
Nick Entwistle
163 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:06:15
Erm James. Objectivity - not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased.

Did you know that? Because spraying the word about makes your entrenched objectivity that little more cuckoo-bananas.

Nick Entwistle
164 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:26:28
Wait a minute... entrenched subjectivity.
Barry Rathbone
170 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:35:34
Ben 153, I know I've always suspected it was arrogance, being of his head hadn't entered my mind.

But now he's started turning up on telly and radio while running down his contract (not advertising himself guv...honest!) clearly believing no-one will notice.


Ben Jones
171 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:46:11
Yeah, but whats the problem with this story?

Saying the fans will make difference, very standard, in which every manager in the league has probably done.

Barry Rathbone
175 Posted 07/03/2013 at 18:55:09
Ben, are the others saying "see how I feel in the summer ..... now kneel and kiss my ring" ? seems unique to Moyes that one - tremendous brass neck if he hasn't gone tonto.
Jamie Barlow
180 Posted 07/03/2013 at 19:02:45
Barry, do you know what the conditions on him signing a new contract are?
Barry Rathbone
183 Posted 07/03/2013 at 19:06:37
Sam Morrison
187 Posted 07/03/2013 at 19:15:12
What Kevin said (155)

Only with more bewilderment

Edward Simpson
267 Posted 08/03/2013 at 03:22:31
I've heard it all before, an article meant to be positive and Moyes saying something positive, yet the haters come in and add nothing but waffle.

Leave the Moyes out, hate, he's tactically inept etc comments to a different thread, there are plenty of them already. They don't add to the discussion of this article.

Tony Clark
268 Posted 08/03/2013 at 03:26:28
So Moyes is on £65 - £70k a week and in reality under little pressure (no trophy in 11 years and position not under threat, in fact stronger than ever). Where in the Premier League would he go that would pay him more with less expectation? At Man Utd he'd be expected to maintain their level of success.

At Arsenal it's top 4 or sacked and likely the same at Spurs. His family is in the NW and settled. It would have to be a colossal offer in my humble opinion. Finally despite almost 11 years and not a single trophy we should be careful what we wish for!

Steve Guy
288 Posted 08/03/2013 at 09:07:37
Edward @267 You are right, we should leave out the tactically inept comments until after the game.

Tony @268 What do you wish for ? I know what I wish for.......... a Team that plays attractive football, goes for a second and third goal to kill off a game instead of defending on their own 18 yard line and a manager who starts playing some of the young players instead of constantly bemoaning a lack of depth. Maybe also a manager who was a little more transparent about his intentions this summer instead of disrupting most of the season with his blatherings about it being up to the players to win him something (if you call qualifying for Europe winning).

All this is irrelevant to the OP; which coming from any manager I would expect to hear ahead of an important game. My experience is the crowd normally feed off the energy on the pitch and so the players need to play their part by starting with real intent and tempo. Probably a few fouls unrewarded with free kicks in the first ten minutes would help.

Derek Thomas
290 Posted 08/03/2013 at 09:49:26
Crowd: Get behind the Team!

Team: Give us something to shout about?!?

Derek Wadeson
328 Posted 08/03/2013 at 13:07:04
Barry, are you the moaning sod who used to sit behind me in the Upper Gwladys?. We kept telling you to grow up and named you the "John Collins Fan Club" a few seasons ago as you gave it to him both barrels blazing on a regular basis, virtually every other player has got it big style from you since but the JC montage stuck. If it's not you, sorry.

As regards to Tony Marsh and are we happy to just get to Wembley? A big fat no to that one Tony, I along with many thousands of Evertonians will never be happy until the day we bury Liverpool into the Wembley turf, collect the FA Cup and give a two fingered salute to every Kopite left in the joint. Then the piss-up will begin.

Ifor Hughes
329 Posted 08/03/2013 at 13:36:03
Barry (#170). Do you not think it's nice to have a Buenose on telly instead of all those ex-RedShites all of the time, spouting their bullshit?

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