Anichebe: Moyes can be a 'nightmare'

On the other hand Jelavic has been rotten and makes a mockery of those claiming he's the best natural fiisher at the club since Lineker...talk about jumping on the bandwagon!!!

Neville is highly willing but no longer able.

Anichebe is sometimes unwilling (his sulks and occasional pitch pounding) and not entirely able (he’s improved but you can’t put in what the Deity left out).

Jelavic remains a mystery to me. He was scoring for fun last season. I presume like all strikers he relies on confidence and his appears to be shot at the moment. The other thing is that he seems to me to spend too much time out on the wing putting in crosses. He is clearly a striker who needs to be in the box: he won’t do a Drogba from thirty yards out.

I would be interested in others’ views of what has gone wrong for him.

Collective sigh...

Maybe you should send them a letter...tell them they are training all wrong? it's very surprising that any players have actually improved under Moyes at all actually.

Some may be out of order... if you spot something I've missed, please put a post here with the comment number.

We have a "top 6" coaching staff and squad and a bunch of FM keyboard warriors telling us the manager is coaching ability out of players.

These are the same people who wanted Anichebe haunted out of Everton.

Dont some people realise that there are other factors at work on players.

Maybe Jelavic hasnt settled in the area, maybe he doesnt mix that well with the rest of the squad, or maybe it is just a temporary loss of form and confidence.

Unlike other "top 6" teams we do not have the luxury of buying to 50 million strikers so it is always a risk for us.

It may be that opposition managers have worked him out to some extent, as well. Second-season syndrome, if you will.

And he has taken some twattish treatment from opposing defenders this season and has not had any protection from the officials.

He remains a class act, however, and I fervently hope he stays.

Moyes got rid of Drenthe and Van der Meyde after they couldn't be bothered anymore and started late boozing. Keeping them in line is good as it keeps the players focused and motivated for the games ahead . He may be a nuisance at times to the players but at least he is maintaining their effort and motivation.

They were not sacked, their contracts were not ended prematurely; Everton FC continued to pay their obscene wages — that they were doing nothing to earn. In Van der Meyde's case, it went on for more than half of his FOUR YERAS with the club.

Square pegs round holes syndrome, again.

It's only taken Moyes 8 or so years to work that out with Anichebe, but I wouldnt be surprised if Moyes' genius strikes again and he is moved to the wing again, where guess what, he'll stink the gaff out again and everyone will say he's white, just look,at what happened to Barkley at the weekend.

Jeez, I'm sure if Moyes put Howard on the wing you Apologists would say Howard was gaff and what else could Moyes do.

The latest Apologist rebuttle's are that the training sessions I saw were Pre-season, therefore don't count????? Could this explain shite starts to the season or is it more reflective of the 'Moyes Way'? I may not have UEFA badges but I can see what they did and didn't do in training, team formations, strategy, attacking wasn't one of them, shooting (believe it or not) was. Saha scored 9 out 10, Cahill 6, Osman 2. They also practiced crosses, Neville 2 out of 10, Coleman (3 years ago) 8 out of 10.

But Moyes sees them in training every week and knows what's best, haha.

Jelavic - did not think he was too bad against Spurs either, but it is really hard to assess forwards on TV because too much off the ball work is not visible. However if he had slotted a couple of chances he would have been a hero - the margins between success and failure for striker are wafer thin. I would not count him out just yet.

I'm not sure how that would work with Fellaini playing behind, but if Mirallas ever took that role it would be exciting times.

Saying that, Vic held it up time and again in the same way, always turning to his... right I think, after backing into the opposition, and may be found out if defenders give him a yard first. But it really is like a new signing...

"he seems to me to spend too much time out on the wing putting in crosses"

To anyone with eyes(including you) it seems an obvious reason why he's not been as prolific this season.

I suspect the coaches have been working with him, extolling the virtues of working hard to win the ball back, tracking back to defend, running channels to gather a hoof. He's not actually any good at holding the ball up, or defending. He doesn't have pace or trickery. He is generally deadly if you give him the ball 18 yards out, and to my reckoning he's not been given much decent service. I know where I'd want him.

Its difficult to do all that defensive work and keep firing them in, because quite simply you're not in the position you need to be able to score.

As for Moyes knows best, I recall when Rodwell scored against Utd at goodison Moyes came out afterwards and said he didn't realise Rodwell was capable of that. Equally with playing PN in midfield which fucked us big time against wigan.

Sometimes managers don't know best or see things in training. They are human with limitations same as us all. Its not black and white either; most of Moyes decisions are good ones, but that doesn't mean that sometimes a fan can't be right and the manager wrong.

Managers disagree with managers. Some(or one at least) often sends all his players back to defend corners, other managers prefer to leave a couple of players at the half-way line. Some managers prefer to manage expectations to the 40pt mark when they're in the top 4 after 20 games, others will insist their team is good enough for a champions league spot despite being in the bottom 3 after 10 games.

Using "Moyes knows best" as an argument discredit someone elses opinion is therefore wrong. If you think Moyes is right in a specific instance, then there must be more to you coming to that conclusion than "the moysiah said it, so it must be so". If so, argue your case!