Reid has a 'sneaky feeling'

We've all had that 'sneaky feeling' and ended up bending over and handing them the Vaseline! Expect a trouncing, that way anything better than that is a bonus.

Jelavic to find form (again) - 2-0.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2318188/Liverpool-fans-pay-tribute-Everton-support-Hillsborough-Kop-mosaic-ahead-derby.html

Nice touch and hopefully will be respected by the Blues at the ground before we obviously go on and beat them.

After we realised who it was, there was many a..um..ribald comment passed I can tell you (not to mention the singing of 'Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler')

Actually I saw him play for Huyton Boys in about 1971 and he looked about 30 then.

Here he is after a visit to Herbert Of Liverpool for 'the full black quink'

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(a great great great player by the way).

I think we will need two strikers in order to win the game. I would give Vellios a chance alongside Anichebe. Jelavic is so out of form that he should be in the reserves right now. McAleny and Vellios both deserve a chance instead of Jelavic at this point.

Sorry, Peter, you're wrong. Reid was a terrific player for Everton until age crept up on him. Sadly he took a dogs abuse off some sections of the crowd, something we at EFC are renowned for, and this has clearly soured your memory of him. And I've been going since the 1950's, so please don't try and make out I was born in the 90's. (Peter, at times, like when I'm trying to bend down to put my socks on, I wish I was)

Rather think you're overstating Grays contribution on the field at least. In the 1983/84 season Adrian Heath finished as Everton's top scorer. I don't remember him doing that from midfield.

Bracewell was a fantastic player, but to assert that the title winning season was entirely due to him signing, is again, one eyed bollocks.

Andy Gray was immense for us but i'm not having this motivational genius cack. If the team was never the same after he left, what happened in 87? Lay off the biographies and wiki and try to remember what you actually saw.

Mike Iddon is another one making up imaginary stories about Reid. Why would Peter Reid ever mark a left winger like John Barnes out of a match.,Gary Stevens was marking him and did a good job.

Matt Thomas says he has it from a good source that Reid missed the bus tour because he was speaking to Cologne, Reid says in the echo last night he was actually drinking in the Red Lion, some source, and some fucking Evertonian was Reid, leaving your team mates to drink in the pub. Sorry to put the dampener, Colin, on your fucking hero.

We won two league titles, a CWC and an FA Cup, between 1984 and 1987. Our "purple patch" lasted 18 months apparently. Maths not your strong point?

You don't think Reid brought anything to the team whilst I think he was the lynchpin that allowed us to play some of the best football seen at Goodison Park. I can live with that disagreement tbh.

Also how come Gray was so good if he didn't make it into the greatest ever XI?

Wales Neville Southall (1981–97)
England Gary Stevens (1982–89)
England Brian Labone (1958–71)
Wales Kevin Ratcliffe (1980–91)
England Ray Wilson (1964–69)
England Trevor Steven (1983–90)
England Alan Ball (1966–71)
England Peter Reid (1982–89)
Republic of Ireland Kevin Sheedy (1982–92)
England Dixie Dean (1925–37)
Scotland Graeme Sharp (1980–91)

We won the league in 1987 when Andy Gray had been sold on at the end of the 1985 season. Andy Gray was replaced by Gary Lineker, who was much more prolific then Andy Gray. You totally overstate the importance that Andy Gray had on our success.

Jackie Barry, Peter Reid "class" do me a favour, as the saying goes "Class is permanent, form is temporary.

Colin, the Everton purple patch lasted from November 83 until May 85. Please tell me what we did in 86.

Maybe the dumbest thing I've ever read on TW (and I've read posts from Dave Wilson and Richard Dodd).

Reid was the heartbeat of the 85 side, a mouthpiece, an enforcer, a ball-winner, a team player who knew the ball should be won and given to those who could play.

With Peter Reid in the side, we always had more of the ball than the opposition and he despised losing.

He set an example and was an absolutely essential cog.

I first saw Reid play for Huyton boys in 70/71 in the final of the English schools trophy.

They won and the side were described at the time as the greatest schoolboy side ever.

OVERrated?

Nonsense!

Ask Inchy if he was overrated - he said it was only when Gray AND Reid came into the side they started to play without fear.

(by the way, I was born 1959 and didn't miss many games home/away during this era)

Don't you call 1987 a purple patch then? In 86, we must of been the best ever team never to win anything, and there's the travesty of not been able to play in the European Cup that year.

This is a a wind-up, repeat, a wind-up!

Neville Southall Wales GK 1981–1997
Derek Mountfield England CB 1982–1988
Adrian Heath England MF 1982–1988
Gary Stevens England RB 1982–1988
Peter Reid England MF 1982–1988
Kevin Sheedy Republic of Ireland MF 1982–1992
Andy Gray Scotland FW 1983–1985
Trevor Steven England MF 1983–1989

Sorry, but 18 months doesn't make someone a class player in my eyes.

Why are you trying to pick fault with great players from our golden era? We had lots of legends that were part of our best period in our history. Reid is a legend and Gray is a legend, just leave it at that!

If Reid was the mouthpiece, then why did Kendall make Ratcliffe the captain?

Peter Reid was a good player in a great side, but I cannot accept posters trying to fabricate stories like he silenced Souness, Case, Barnes when he quite clearly didn't.

And Colin Wainwright, I don't need to research Wikipedia or read my biographies, I know what I saw.

Went to a sportsman's dinner a few years ago listening to Alan Kennedy tell some story about how he and Tommy Smith had done Duncan McKenzie on the half-ay line and everyone was in tears of laughter in the room. Well I support Everton and know it is total bullshit as Tommy Smith had left Liverpool long before Kennedy arrived at Liverpool. So how the fuck did Kennedy, Smith & McKenzie play in the same match?

God, I wish they were facing that Shite on Sunday.

Sorry, I believe this is a wind up and I'm having no more to do with it.

(and if it's not a wind-up, it is the dumbest stuff I've EVER read on TW so the same applies).

Goodnight dolt.

The role of the captain is to portray the managers instructions on the pitch.

So who better to do this than the mouthpiece? But he chose Ratcliffe rather than Reid the mouth piece.

As somebody said elswhere there is a difference between mouth piece ( and coin tosser / armband wearer for that matter ) and Captain. That team in the mid 80's had 4 or 5 or 6 'captains'. How many do we have now??NONE, oh we have mouth pieces and armband wearers, maybe even pointers and fist wavers, but no leaders. Thats one of the reasons we have 40 odd no wins at some grounds.

In the 86 world cup who ever was still on the pitch and whoever came off ( Wilkins?) so Reid could come on makes no difference. Watch the game ( paraguay?) He Bossed it.

As for not being able to catch Maradonna, better players than him would've had no chance

He was what he was, We and England were the better team for having him.

Also, We and England were the poorer for not having Bracewell, who was essentially finished as a player at newcastle in Jan. The fact that He and the rest of the team kept going until May makes my whole 'Team' point

With Reid (and Bracewell and others of that ilk )You got exactly what it said on the tin...

WINNER.

With your views I think you will find yourself in a single digit minority.

That why football in this country is so far behind the other countries. We love the Peter Reids and ignore the Trevor Stevens.

Eugene, enjoy your sleep, I know who I would rather watch

Peter, give it up. You are starting to sound like a wind up.

So why wasn't he?

"Colin, Mike Iddon says Barnes destroyed us when Reid was not playing, then Barnes didnt get a kick when he did play, so what then exactly was his point if Gary Stevens was marking him. So the RS winger has a great game and its all because the Everton central mid fielder is missing."

I'm sure Mike will explain himself but what I took from that was maybe Reid controlled the midfield, to an extent that the supply to the winger/rapper/shitpundit, was cut off. I know. Fanciful, pie in the sky talk.

20 posts from a ranter and raver on a single post; is this a record? And utter shite from the first word to the last (hang on, I do agree about Tricky Trev). Gray the glory-giver! Erm, we could name other players who straddled your 83-85 hiatus, are they also therefore the key?

I would hope that in future if Peter Bell posts on here again that we give him the silent treatment. I'm all for the cut and thrust of debate and revisionism is no bad thing in principle, but this is pure bollocks and it's very hard to imagine it coming out of the mouth of one of us.

Going to get head down.