Season › 2012-13 › News Bitter Red mist descends over derby stalemate , 7 May, 41comments | Jump to most recent The Red Echo reaches a new low as James Pearce turns Liverpool's inability to beat Everton at home on its head, contrasting Reds frustration with Blues delight at denying them 2 points that will probably ensure Liverpool finish below Everton for a second successive season. [Warning: This Echo webpage triggers a Malware warning on Google Chrome and crashes Internet Explorer!!!] Quotes or other material sourced from Liverpool Echo Reader Comments (41) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Kevin Tully 1 Posted 07/05/2013 at 10:30:02 Yes, James Pearce is quite scathing this morning in Liverpool Echo: EXPECT the DVD to be available in the Everton club shop tomorrow.As Liverpool’s players walked away from an instantly forgettable 220th Merseyside derby with frustration etched across their faces, the celebrations were underway in the away end.Those scenes were replicated in the directors box’ with visiting chairman Bill Kenwright greeting the final whistle with a triumphant shout of ‘yes’. Shaun Brennan 2 Posted 07/05/2013 at 10:56:04 Kevin Tully, I seen that and I'm surprised the Echo let it go up on the website. If anything, it adds further fuel to the Liverpool Echo being the Red Echo and caters mainly for the deluded with entrenched views.Even today, one of the main articles was Liverpool clinic has to import sperm... from Manchester (the shock and horror of it all)!Awful paper, really sinks to some levels at times, trying to be associated with it's readers. Ed Staunton 3 Posted 07/05/2013 at 11:08:38 Kevin Tully 824I read that also, he just sounded like (dare I say it) a bitter red. Those pesky Blues finishing above the great reds how dare they! Pathetic. Gavin Ramejkis 4 Posted 07/05/2013 at 12:26:25 The failure to win obviously riled those feckless inbreds quite a bit going by this latest twaddle in the Oldham Echo. Eugene Ruane 5 Posted 07/05/2013 at 13:34:10 Gavin (844) - Pieces like that give me SUCH a thrill. Genuinely! I know as long as the Echo are printing articles like that, it means all at Castle Grayskull is in the shit-house and panic is the order of the day.Any piece having a pop at us, from them or theirs, I absolutely welcome - a great indicator.I rate us as nothing special but we look like we'll finish above them again.That's no big deal of course but when you add up how much it has cost them to be...not as good as us, no wonder they're lashing out.Rodgers MUST stay! Chris Leyland 6 Posted 07/05/2013 at 14:00:48 Gavin (844) - love the article thanks. It shows how far they have fallen and the reality for them is that it seriously pissed them off that we are likely to finish above them again. You could see it in Carragher's post match interview when he got some digs in against us thinly disguised as compliments. I've also noticed it with some redshite friends and their posts on Facebook this week. They are becoming obsessed with deriding us and this is just symptomatic of how shite they really are, especially when you consider their net spend over the past two seasons is £76m against ours of minus £14.5m (courtesy of http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/everton-transfers.html). Chris Regan 7 Posted 07/05/2013 at 14:11:45 Kevin #824, just read the article in The Echo. Did they play a second Derby after the one shown on Sky, did all the players come back out once the fans had gone? He described very little of what I watched. Bitter, bitter, Red. Andy Hegan 8 Posted 07/05/2013 at 14:33:45 I emailed them right away. I would suggest others do the same. The Echo will lose any remaining credibility by employing this bitter amateur. Kevin Tully 9 Posted 07/05/2013 at 14:42:30 That's exactly the reaction we want from all clubs, for too long it's been "Plucky little Everton, they are a great old school club."Well feck all that patronising shite the moneyed elite always throw our way - you know we are doing something right when Mancini, Ferguson & Wenger have all had a go at us this season. Alastair Donaldson 10 Posted 07/05/2013 at 14:52:17 It's a good result finishing above them, but still annoying how many points have been dropped. Against teams that should have been beaten:--Fulham A (2), Reading A (1), Norwich H (2) & A (1)...or taken away by VERY suspect reffing decisions.Newcastle H (2), LFC H (Suarez shoud have been off) (2), LFC A disallowed goal (2), Arse H Arteta penalty not given (2), Man C A penalty against Osman (2) I count 15 conservatively... to get 60 pts anyway is pretty damn good...still disappointing though. Dave Charles 11 Posted 07/05/2013 at 14:56:40 They're looking for an excuse for their failings. If it's not us, it's Fergie and Man Utd, if it's not them, it's the FA. They make me laugh, they really do. Norman Merrill 12 Posted 07/05/2013 at 15:01:44 Don't buy it, certainly don't read it, and in emergency would not use it. Eric Myles 13 Posted 07/05/2013 at 15:03:38 I wouldn't call them Bitter Reds, I call them Biter Reds after Sewer Rat's latest antics. Christine Foster 14 Posted 07/05/2013 at 15:09:32 Irrespective of the bias shown by the plonker, I am more concerned that he refers to chants of "Murderers" and Heysel, did that happen? If it did it then those supporters have no place in our club, but equally he had no right to report it in such a way as to incite and smear Tony J Williams 15 Posted 07/05/2013 at 15:12:43 Of course the "Murderers" chant happened Christine, the same knobheads chant it at every derby. Neil Temple 16 Posted 07/05/2013 at 15:16:08 As any blue of a certain age will probably know, the Liverpool Echo does exactly what it says on the paper: it's the Liverpool Echo and always has been and always will be — a kopite paper... and that is the only reason I need not to never read it, never mind buy it! Their comments after the derby only confirm what I've just said! Lyndon Lloyd 18 Posted 07/05/2013 at 15:33:21 Their argument is that Greg O'Keeffe's report is supposed to come from the Blue side and Pearce's from the Red to provide balance but that shouldn't give the latter carte blanche to trot out partisan, playground-level dross like he did.I'm just glad that Greg didn't stoop to the same level (not that he would). Class, dignity and all that. Dan Brierley 19 Posted 07/05/2013 at 16:03:37 "Everton’s complaints about Sylvain Distin’s disallowed goal early in the second half cut no ice.Oliver had already spoken to Victor Anichebe about his penchant for wrestling at corners. Anichebe failed to heed the warning and Everton paid the price"This has got to be the biggest wind up in history. I think it would be better to just completely ignore the fool, than give him a soap box to stand on. Doug Hast 20 Posted 07/05/2013 at 16:21:36 What's Rodgers going to do with only £25M available for him to spend on new players? I would suggest he call Moyes and ask him how he manages to build a team for a tenth of what Rodgers wants to spend. Poor Liverpool: no Europeean cup games... that equals: no money; no top players brought in; a middle-of-the-table team unable to challenge for 4th place — and unable to finish in the top four for the foreseeable future. Ken Buckley 21 Posted 07/05/2013 at 16:12:24 The Echo man is no different than any other pundit, writer, ex player or fan I have read or listened to. They still live in a world where the Reds are mighty and win things and qualify for things with regularity. The fact that they are now also-rans escapes them and a thought that they now are only the second best team in Liverpool really rankles to the point of paranoia. They believe in having a divine right to be regarded as an EPL big hitter. Being below Everton not only shatters their dreams but makes Labone's observation all the more relevant: One Evertonian is worth 20 Liverpudlains. Eric Myles 22 Posted 07/05/2013 at 16:25:25 A neutral mate who was watching the game with no sound thought that the ref had awarded a penalty to us as Enrique had an arm wrapped around Anichebe. He was amazed that the goal was disallowed.Even a RS I was watching the match with thought it was a perfectly good goal. Declan Brown 23 Posted 07/05/2013 at 17:25:07 Love that "One Evertonian is worth twenty Liverpudlians" quote.As a kid I always thought he had said an Evertonian was worth 20,000 Liverpudlians. It's a pity the great man didn't.From here on if you want to, tell them Declan Brown said "1 evertonian is worth 20,000 liverpudlians". If they ask who Declan Brown is, say you don't know but 1 Evertonian is still worth 20,000 liverpudlians.Stick that to the G08sh1tes and see how they like that.And yes what a bitter bunch they are, looks like we might finish above them again and it's bringing the best (they've got) in them. Enjoy it while it lasts, it's an underhanded compliment and it's great. Andy Parsons 24 Posted 07/05/2013 at 17:54:34 It's what we've all known for a long time, but to see it there in print is breathtaking. Bitter, nasty, vitriolic... horrible report, horrible paper, horrible club. Neil Eccles 25 Posted 07/05/2013 at 18:01:19 Considering they're not bothered about us, they're doing an awful lot of talking about us. James McGarry 26 Posted 07/05/2013 at 18:01:31 The RED Echo all they ever do is slag Everton and talk the SHITE up like there fucking Barcelona. Blind fuckers at he echo have short memories that that shit club has finished below us for two seasons now and they fully back a racist cheating biting little fucker who by the way is bigger than the club. I personally feel that every Evertonian should black list this rag like we did with the sun. They must recruit their writers on the basis that they support the shite. BLACK LiST THE RAG MAG Robert Patterson 27 Posted 07/05/2013 at 18:47:31 Steven Gerrard said in a newspaper article,we hav'ent WON anything(Everton), but we have,Liverpool f.c. lost IT, and we gained it. RESPECT Patrick Murphy 28 Posted 07/05/2013 at 19:15:22 God forbid we ever do beat them in their own back-yard, they won't stop bleating for the rest of this century. In the 80s it was the most important domestic game because they won things when they beat us, in the 90s it became a bit of an unwanted nuisance for them, because we actually tried to beat them, and by the 2000s it was an irrelevance to them as Man U were their natural adversaries, now they accuse us of celebrating a draw - which from what I've read on this site doesn't seem to be true and I don't remember jumping about when I found out the score. I hope it's not too long before they are slagging Tranmere off and a few years from now accusing Runcorn of being too big for their boots. They are so full of the brown stuff in fact I think I'll refer to them as 'The Boys From The Brown Stuff' from now on. Barry Rathbone 29 Posted 07/05/2013 at 19:03:33 The idiot is just reflecting how it's been since Shankly.The club never complains officially or reacts in any way to LFC, it's managers and media poodles - about time they did.We've always been too accommodating which probably explains why they keep at it, rising above it is fine but about time we stopped being used as a punchbag Chris Leyland 30 Posted 07/05/2013 at 19:40:11 Just saw that Stevie G-la is having shoulder surgery. Must be because of that massive chip he has been carrying about us. Kieran Fitzgerald 31 Posted 07/05/2013 at 19:45:07 Robert, in fairness what I think he meant was that just because we finish above them, it doesn't mean we have won anything. He's right. Big fucking deal, we will finish empty handed in sixth place. If finishing in seventh is shit for them, then why should finishing in sixth, with no league cup, F.A cup or European football guarenteed for next season be something to celebrate? Two local rivals have a shit season between them and local bragging rights mean fuck all as far as I am concerned.Just because he was doing media stuff before a darby game doesn't mean he has to be all nice and diplomatic. I would only wish that some of our players were more honest and upfront.And NO, I am not sticking up for the guy, I am not a closet red and I am not Tony Marsh in disguise. I just din't mind acknowledging the truth when I hear it. Ross Edwards 32 Posted 07/05/2013 at 19:52:46 Brenda- 10 more years please mate!Well, the RS are riled by the swinging Mersey pendulum. They know there are only two teams on Merseyside: Everton and Everton Reserves, which has got them bitter and twisted. John Keating 33 Posted 07/05/2013 at 20:03:24 I submitted a post this morning which has been omitted regarding an article in the Guardian which tells of the RS disregard of local people.What pissed me off more than anything was that the article came from a national and not the arsewipe that is out local.It and the pricks that write for it are an absolute disgrace Robert Patterson 34 Posted 07/05/2013 at 20:33:36 Kieran 962 I know what he meant,I'VE watched DERBY'S since 1962,I've red mates ,a red family so any thing I can come back with I WILL. Gavin Ramejkis 35 Posted 07/05/2013 at 21:51:20 John, I read that article in the Guardian, its a big anti RS one, about them buying all the houses around Mordor and leaving them empty to drive those that wont sell up out, the paper has a real good go at them for it, about time the media woke up and smelt the coffee with that shower of shite John Gee 36 Posted 07/05/2013 at 22:28:38 I wonder if the BBC will pick up on this story? The right wing press are always accusing them of being Guardian readers. Surely the pro-shite brigade in their football department wouldn't have skipped this page. Christopher Kelly 37 Posted 07/05/2013 at 22:59:36 wow I'm literally floored. One tiny blurb about our disallowed goal!!! Bwahahaha!!! What a joke they are. I'm embarrassed my baseball team owners also own the Shite. How can they possibly go lower??? I'm sure they'll find a way. Their euro glory fading - massive debts coming on and players now biting each other. This has the feel of a shitty tv show destined to be cancelled after 4 episodes, not an actual club lolololololo. LOVING EVERY SECOND OF IT Derek Thomas 39 Posted 08/05/2013 at 09:03:48 rs; you always get exactly what it says on the tin ( or newspaper )Tomorrows chip wrapping, or if you're really REALLY desperate, toilet paper, nah... I'd rather do without. James Carlisle 41 Posted 08/05/2013 at 14:21:09 Disgusting article yet again by the biased kopite controlled media. How dare plucky little Everton deny the rs 6th place and finish above them for the second season running for the first time in 80 years. As far as I remember only one team put the ball in the net (fairly) and it wasn't the team in red, the echo may as well become an RS fanzine. I can't believe they allowed something like this to be posted. Phil Parker 42 Posted 08/05/2013 at 14:55:25 They are selling their new kit with a backdrop of the Liver Building – which is fine – but why don't we do that as well? Are we not a Premier League club from Liverpool? Marketing is so important now. Why have we lay down and let them take "ownership" of the city? We should use city landmarks, Beatles and Paul McCartney connections, and get our club properly marketed to a worldwide audience. Carl Taylor 43 Posted 08/05/2013 at 15:08:09 RS and the Red Echo making out we're delighted to get a draw at Anfield? Well how come Stevie G is now having his shoulder op after their cup final? Not arsed about finishing above us anymore? Sad, bitter little men who have nothing else to cling too. Andy Hegan 44 Posted 08/05/2013 at 18:39:11 Phil Parker spot on .been saying it for years Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads © ToffeeWeb