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Poll shows Blues are ready for foreign influence
Everton have not yet had a non-Briton as a manager from outside the British Isles but the leading preferred candidates to step in the departing Moyes's shoes are all foreigners, suggesting perhaps that Blues fans are looking for some Continental influence like that at work at top-six rivals likes of Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal and Manchester City.
Michael Laudrup emerged as a clear front-runner when polling first opened last week but the Dane's lead narrowed considerably when it became apparent that the compensation Everton might owe Swansea City to release him from his contract would be prohibitively high.
Roberto Martinez enoyed a surge in popularity when Wigan won the FA Cup on Saturday but that was tempered in predictable fashion with the confirmation of the Latics' relegation on Tuesday.
That has given new impetus to Vitor Pereira who garnered 13% of the almost 11,000 votes. Slaven Bilic, Roberto di Matteo and Duncan Ferguson were in the next clutch of candidates, collecting between 6% and 7% each.
Ferguson was the only British candidate to figure highly in the voting — heavily backed options with oddsmakers like Neil Lennon and Malkay Mackay fared poorly — adding weight to the notion that Everton supporters would prefer an injection of European ideas from their next manager rather than another quintessential British boss.
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Seeking to get a better feel on these poll results and given that new candidates like Thomas Tuchel and Lucien Favre have been generating buzz among online Evertonians, we've generated a quick survey with some more specific questions which you can complete below:
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2 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:13:52
3 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:30:22
4 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:34:02
5 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:36:16
6 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:42:27
The club need to know who the fans want in charge, great idea.
Pereira definitely for me ! Second choice Martinez with Neville his assistant !!
7 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:52:12
But Holy Mother of God!
Stubbs!!!!
Alan Stubbs 3/1
Gus Poyet 3/1
Roberto Martinez 5/1
Neil Lennon 7/1
Phil Neville 20/1
Rafael Benitez 25/1
Vitor Pereira 28/1
Mark Hughes 33/1
Malky Mackay 33/1
Harry Redknapp 33/1
Stuart McCall 33/1
8 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:32:00
9 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:55:07
And the former EFC lads list seems pretty thin on the ground too. Where is Eamon O'Keefe's name, eh, eh?
A depressing pair of lists which together make the point that we probably do need to go with someone who wasn't born in Blighty.
10 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:45:50
Question three, British managers, I actually got the yips - couldn't quite bring myself to tick ANY box.
In the end, I ticked Peter Reid but for no reason other than my finger wouldn't allow me to put a tick next to any of the other names.
Christ, we're going to get someone HORRIBLE.
11 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:01:44
12 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:08:00
14 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:10:33
I'd like to give it a week to get the maximum number of responses and then we'll publish them. Of course, we may not get that long if Bill makes an appointment before then so maybe I'll release some interim results late on Sunday.
15 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:09:41
Have a read of last nights Echo too, am sure Pereira says Porto have to sell their best players at the end of each season in order to balance the books and yet he still won the league and is on the verge of doing so again.
Similar circumstances at us?
Probably a bit worse?
Surely proves that he knows how to build a side without money and a quality one to?
16 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:26:35
17 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:23:06
Gotta say that Johnny Carey immediately comes to mind.
18 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:30:31
19 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:34:36
20 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:42:52
The plot thickens,
Watch his odds shorten over the next couple of days
21 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:26:50
22 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:47:19
23 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:26:46
Laudrup or Pereira for me.
24 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:38:03
25 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:50:24
26 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:00:18
He may just canvass paying punters via mailing lists but I'm not holding my breath there either.
#Soundbite.
27 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:26:29
I did read somewhere on Tofeeweb that someone had refined BK 's words about consulting on the next manager to mean that his intention was to hear Evertonians' views on the type of manager rather than name . Not actually read those words from BK's own mouth, so to speak, but could well imagine this resulting from a rethink by the club so as not to be tied down to specific people.
From a quick perusal of your survey you seem to be framing parts of it to give answers in the way the club or BK would like to see them which in the long run is probably a good thing! The whole process does however necessitate, on all our parts, a degree of sceptical acceptance that they really would like to hear what we have to say!
I intend to give it my full attention tomorrow.
We should all be grateful to you for responding so quickly and comprehensively to the concerns of ToffeeWeb subscribers which have been developing and changing with some pace over the last few days.
When I think about there is, in some ways, a recognition that, if we're lucky we may have a limited influence on things, and if we do the most important achievement will be in ensuring that the appointment won't of someone who will make us throw our hands up in despair! In other words we don't end up with one of the 'merry go round managers' , a classic example of which would be Mark Hughes!
28 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:02:09
I don't like him so much as a person he seems OK but spouts some shite.
Tell me this though, how many people in contention have won the Champions League, Europa League, Spanish League twice... lives in the north west. etc... none!
Whoever the board chooses i'll support wholeheartedly I hope you all do the same.
Emotions apart he is the best candidate available.
29 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:05:20
Pereira gets my vote.
My logic? David Moyes took us as far as he could and did a good job. But his time was up. We need a change of direction and not the same old, same old.
Think about it. Who from that list of candidates adds anything over and above DM?
If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got.
Our next manager will have VP on his sweat shirt I hope.
30 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:15:32
My A levels were easier than that expanded poll.
31 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:21:47
34 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:19:26
Has to be Jorge Jesus if only for the headlines.... from Moyesiah to Jesus! If we can't succeed after that, then God help us (literally!)
Actually, if I remember rightly, hasn't Jesus sold a lot of very good internationals, managed to replace them with cheaper alternatives and still make a Euro final? Doesn't that sound like qualifications that may be needed here... unfortunately!
He's also angling for a move to the Premier, but we probably wouldn't be favourite on that score, depending on who Chelsea turn to,,,,,
35 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:08:05
I knew it was bad but seeing it written down like that was frankly unnerving.
United just took the best Brit manager away from us so why on Earth should we soil ourselves with a lesser version?
Next boss HAS to be continental. I know I said I was jumping on the Pereira bandwagon, but seeing Bielsa's name up there all top-class, tempting and possible, well I just couldn't help myself. Sorry.
In light of the possibility that this poll may reach the club the only question missing was; To what lengths would you go to avoid Mark Hughes becoming manager?
a) I would French kiss Rafa
b) I would wear an I love Stevie G T-shirt in the Gwladys
c) I would set about my genitals with an ice pick
d) All of the above
36 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:23:21
Latest Skybet odds:
Alan Stubbs 3/1 Gus Poyet 3/1 Roberto Martinez 5/1 Neil Lennon 7/1
Phil Neville 16/1 Rafael Benitez 25/1 Vitor Pereira
This is what Poyet said to get suspended:
Poyet, 45, told BBC Sussex on Monday: "I will analyse where we can go and myself as well. I have got to think about myself as well sometimes.
Every summer you sit down and analyse where you can go, where you can get or not and depending on that you have got a project or a way of getting better. I've not been in this situation but I don't like it, It's changed my view completely about everything I was prepared for, so we'll see now."I have always said that all the time we keep improving I am going to be at this football club and the day we hit the roof, I'm not.
Is there something more? Right now I don't know, so I need to make sure I know there is, because if not I am not going to stay forever."
37 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:24:03
38 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:30:43
Mind you, Paddy Power have Roberto Martinez as 7/1 favourite for......the RS job.
39 Posted 17/05/2013 at 00:21:22
Duncan Ferguson for me. ASAP.
40 Posted 17/05/2013 at 01:15:59
41 Posted 17/05/2013 at 01:31:38
Would also be interesting to see what he is like with the press and his own players. Moyes always didnt look enthusiastic when talking to the press.
The thing to remember is you might get a manager who is a great tactician but if the players do not buy into his system then it might be all for nothing.
42 Posted 17/05/2013 at 02:14:15
43 Posted 17/05/2013 at 02:50:23
44 Posted 17/05/2013 at 03:02:52
On the manager issue, I'm probably going to get banned, abused and completely shot down for this, but I think the club would really benefit from having the following name here - Rafa.
I know he's ex-RS, and I know he put our club down all those years ago, but he's a very good tactician, and after "it's 4-5-1 'til I die" for the past 10 years, it's what could get us the extra 5-10 points in a season. Football is now a business, and our business is winning games and silverware, and I honestly think he could/would do that for us.
For the record, I've just put on a helmet, and completely understand the abuse I'm about to cop.
45 Posted 17/05/2013 at 03:17:28
Let's wait until we have a short list and then we can speculate. Oh and don't leave it too long BK; every day we don't have a manager is a day lost in preparation for next season.
46 Posted 17/05/2013 at 03:58:32
Boiled down mate, all he said was I was promised that there would be options to improve and get better and I'm not so sure now.
Now, whether Everton can offer better ...................
47 Posted 17/05/2013 at 04:05:29
48 Posted 17/05/2013 at 04:08:55
Roman, please let's not have an inside appointment, except for Sheeds, and that too would be an all mighty risk
49 Posted 17/05/2013 at 04:27:42
50 Posted 17/05/2013 at 05:41:47
51 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:40:02
that new badge is a fucking joke and to tell Nike to get stuffed!
Bring back Umbro! Kitbag deal is a disgrace. How a premier league can't run a merchandising operation and make money is a mystery. Has any other club outsourced for such a pathetic payback?
52 Posted 17/05/2013 at 06:47:13
Perfectly put.
Time for a brave decision,not same old same old.
We would be getting a title winning manager two out of two for Pereira.
Won the league in his first season and looks like winning it in his second season.
Add to that he works with little money and it is a no brainier for me.
He has said recently he wants to manage in England.
53 Posted 17/05/2013 at 06:56:02
To be honest, though influenced by the various discussions on the site over the last few days, I framed the questions to satisfy my own curiosity (which I'm sure I share with many, if not most, Blues), really, based on the results of the first poll being dominated by foreign coaches. I was trying to draw up another single-question poll to add in some of the newer suggestions (Belsia, Tuchel, etc) and ended up feeling that a small survey where I could pitch a few questions rather than one would be more interesting.
I'd love the Club to take an interest in the results but I don't expect them to, so this is not really geared towards influencing Bill... although I will be passing on the results to Everton.
54 Posted 17/05/2013 at 09:08:14
NOBODY wants Mark Hughes.
The fans are not overly favouring recruiting from within.
There's 4 stand-out candidates: Martinez, Laudrup, Perreira and for me Benitez.
Benitez won't get offered it. It's controversial and he may turn us down.
Laudrup. Doesn't want it. £8M compensation so no go.
Martinez. Just got relegated. Compensation and poor defence so probably not.
Pereira. No compo. looks like going to win the league again. Plays attacking football. Used to bringing through youth and unknowns to replace the sale of biggest stars. AVB's success.
If the cap fits, Vitor... Welcome.
55 Posted 17/05/2013 at 06:10:36
One of the reasons I've heard for why we should get him is that he lives in the north west. I'm sure we could find a manager who'd be willing to move. And one whose name isn't synonymous with our loveable neighbours and who actually likes Everton.
I might be overstating here... Fuck off with your ridiculous suggestion.
56 Posted 17/05/2013 at 12:09:20
More important qualities for me would be someone who gains satisfaction from outwitting opponents with a limited budget, has a good record in the transfer market & is ambitious to crack the Premier League.
Ideally I'd like to see Bielsa, Pereira, Laudrup and Martinez outside Bill's office. Whoever delivers the best answers gets the job.
57 Posted 17/05/2013 at 12:34:44
59 Posted 17/05/2013 at 14:04:20
60 Posted 17/05/2013 at 14:24:11
61 Posted 17/05/2013 at 14:43:53
Although a bad start and decline may force the board to sell the club. You never know.
62 Posted 17/05/2013 at 14:51:19
Lambert's your man then, he's played youth due to lack of money this season.
63 Posted 17/05/2013 at 15:04:40
I fucking hate the arrogant twat!
Even if he was "the right man for the job" from a tactical perspective Everton shouldn't even dignify him with a second thought!
You might as well start discussing Dalglish as well if we are happy to take on RS cast offs!
64 Posted 17/05/2013 at 16:45:34
One is - "Club vs Country:
Do you put Everton over your nation's success? If you had to choose, would you prefer Everton to win the Premiership or your nation win the World Cup?"
16% (SIX-TEEEEEEEEN!!!) said England to win The World Cup.
The words, 'sideways', 'me' and 'fuck' spring to mind.
65 Posted 17/05/2013 at 16:54:29
66 Posted 17/05/2013 at 16:55:24
Agree 16% surprisingly high (the rising drugs culture?)
My major hope for England matches is that some RS gets injured, stretchered off with a "ruled out for the season" quote and then arrested as part of the Savile investigation.
67 Posted 17/05/2013 at 17:27:29
Out of a job so no compensation. Premier League experience. Won trophies at the highest level.
Just wont happen because of sentimental reasons and that could be our downfall.
68 Posted 17/05/2013 at 17:33:24
We are so blinded by our hatred of the man that even if he did take over and we did qualify for Champions League or win a cup we'd still hate him.
We need to do what's right for Everton to progress, not whats best for fans
69 Posted 17/05/2013 at 17:37:53
It does matter.
Benitez wouldn't be able to draw the line with the fans and say his tenure was interim and short term (which takes the pressure off).
He's also on record as saying he wants to manage the RS one day.
Can you imagine the Barmby style humilation X 10 when (not if) Rodgers departs and Rafa walks across the park?
We'd get a HK style quote after he left City for us...the RS are like a wife, EFC like (?)
No, not for me.
70 Posted 17/05/2013 at 17:43:20
71 Posted 17/05/2013 at 17:48:08
Don't get me wrong, I really don't want Benitez at the club. Just sometimes the right option is not necessarily the popular option.
Also didn't know he wanted to return to the RS
74 Posted 17/05/2013 at 19:18:36
He's a red, he loves them. No crime in that but in my opinion it makes him 100% unsuitable to manage Everton, period, end of!!!
To be honest I can't stand the man and I'm positive even Bill wouldn't be crazy enough to offer him the job so please, please, please can we just forget him.
I would go for Tuchel, a young progressive manager who is making a name for himself in the Bundesliga with an unfashionable club on a small budget. I realise he's a longshot so I'm hoping for Pereira.
75 Posted 17/05/2013 at 23:18:12
Interestingly he seems to rate Tuchel as a manager and is one of his 4 realistic contenders.
76 Posted 18/05/2013 at 01:21:12
77 Posted 18/05/2013 at 08:47:32
80 Posted 18/05/2013 at 22:30:29
There are several possibilities for this - all of them unproven at this level (or any level in most cases).
The idea doesn't sit well with me, but I can see why it would suit Bill. He knows very well who he could or couldn't turn into his next yes man.
81 Posted 19/05/2013 at 15:05:08
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1 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:55:07
Anyone who can win the Portugese league in front of Benfica,who out classed Chelsea for all of the first half and a lot of the second half,will do me.